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Seamus Fermanagh
03-09-2006, 22:33
First to the Ports:

The UAE's offer of an additional 45-day review period for the Dubai "Ports" Deal has been accepted and then stomped on within 6 days. Both halves of our legislature, notably Senate Democrats and House Republicans were in a political race to squash the deal and take credit for the kill. Senate Democrats had the tougher go, of course, since they were trying to force a vote whereas the House Appropriations committee was able to attach a Ports Deal rejection amendment onto what is widely viewed as a must-pass, must-be-signed emergency spending bill for the military and Katrina relief.

Now, Bush has already signaled in "read my lips" fashion that he'll veto any effort to kill the Ports deal. A big slice of the U.S. public, for various reasons, is leery of the deal -- and they are squawking to their representatives. Therefore, the House appropriations bill takes up this political pissing-match challenge and dares the Pres' to veto a bill that would leave our troops economically stranded (or at least would be portrayed that way in the media). What's a President to do.....

If some kind of deal can't be brokered, and the President refuses to veto, we are left with at least two results:

1. An attenuated relationship with a Middle Eastern state that has been fairly supportive of US efforts in the war on terror. NOT good for winning the war.

2. The assumption of full lame-duck status by the Bush administration a full 6 months PRIOR to the mid-term elections.

Next to the Parliament:

The second point above reveals one of the few weaknesses in the American Republican system as opposed to a Parliamentary system a la England. If the PM lost such a major vote because her or his own party rejected administration policy so completely it would likely constitute a vote of "No Confidence" and elections would be called to assure a leader who could create (via voter base or political coalition) majority support.

Here in the US, we'll have a very early-on lame duck President whose ability to effect domestic policy would be largely negated. The result of this will NOT be Congress leaping up to take control and establish a cohesive policy to move the nation forward, but a hodge-podge of unrelated and unfocussed legislation that will do little but respond to the whim of the moment -- gridlock for want of purpose. Bush will still be the Commander in Chief, and would still be able to pursue many of the objectives of the War on Terror, but would have difficulty generating the support for another major operation (absent another major attack on the US). Political capital is, for a President, the key to success.

The Third Rail of Politics:

Where did the political capital go? Bush had a fair dose after finally having racked up an outright win in November of '04. His number one domestic objective -- the reform of our Social Security System -- did what it has to all other reformers, electrocuted him on the 3rd rail of politics.

Now don't get me wrong, I wanted him to succeed. Our current system was designed by FDR as a stop-gap measure to allay fears in the US workforce and help get people active in order to combat the Great Depression. The system was then Frankensteined out of all proportion and has been kept in place at least 3 decades longer than FDR himself intended. We've ended up with a system that combines the worst features of Free Market Fend for Yourself retirement with the most inefficient features of the classic Socialist Government Program from Perdition -- and we are apparently hooked on it like crack cocaine.

Bush's reform effort was stopped cold by Social-Security-As-Is supporters, notably the liberal wing of the Democrat party, despite the fact that the Dems had been handed a clear electoral loss in the preceding election. Much of the political capital Bush had accrued was spent, and with no result. The continuing casualties in Iraq, the government mis-cues with Katrina (at all levels), and even the NSA eavesdropping to-do were all stumbles, but Bush had little umph with which to face them -- and a host of political opponents (and outright enemies) willing to point out, magnify and fixate on every faux pas.

And now, the acquisition of indirect control by an arab firm over 6 terminals at 4 or 5 ports in the USA has become a huge political watershed -- even though the Chinese are running far more of them than that at this very moment along with both terminus points of the Panama Canal. The American electorate, when its opinion gels (however ignorant, correct, or dead-arse wrong), really does wield the ultimate authority here.

Interesting times ahead. Thoughts?

Don Corleone
03-09-2006, 22:50
Fascinating perspective Seamus.

What you're seeing, for better or for worse, is that the American electorate is largely motivated by 'fear' these days. Some time ago, sadly, the death of Horatio Alger arrived unheralded. He died unmourned. Now, we have become a nation of panty waists that fears brown people that are muslim (even when they're our allies), fears retirement, fears political discourse or discussion, fears just about everything, including a crippling fear of actually doing something to address the problems we as a society face.

I'm not going to launch into a mythological tale of 'the good old days'. We have made a lot of progress as a society. Lynchings, while once common, have become largely unheard of. Domestic violence has been reduced. Hunger and disease have been reduced. All in all, we've done some good things. But at what price? We have as a people come to believe that we cannot think or act for ourselves, that all responsibility for fixing any problem: from our son's behaviorial issues to the ability to control storms must surely be at the disposal of Congress & the President.

If current trends continue, the Eloi will be ripe for the harvest far sooner then anyone ever thought. :help:

P.S. I totally agree with you that paradoxically, reforming our government system to a more parlimentarian approach may just be the only hope we have. It would certainly put an end to the one-party system we have now.

Lemur
03-09-2006, 23:09
If current trends continue, the Eloi will be ripe for the harvest far sooner then anyone ever thought.
Straight to the siggy.

yesdachi
03-09-2006, 23:25
i dont like it but it is pure genius to have attached the ports deal amendment to the must pass emergency spending bill. hats off to that guy (i forget his name) but i'll bet GW wants to sock him in the nose.

interesting observations on your part Seamus, i think our 2 party system is broke. it would/could be fine if the representatives would actually represent the people and not the special interest groups. main stream America is not far off to the left or right but somewhere in the middle and in order to really do their jobs and represent the people our elected officials shouldn't be cranked over to the far side of the left or right. The press hound democrats are a good example of the broke system IMO, they are sooo far off compared to the majority of American voters that they will never stand a chance at the white house, leaving us with whatever that republicans have to offer. it would be nice if the dems would get back to their core values from several decades ago so that we could have some real choices again.

If a democrat were to find a way to fix SS they would win the presidential election in a landslide but none will even try because they are too busy bashing Bush. you cant make yourself look good enough to win a majority vote if you are bashing the they guy the majority voted for. stop chucking rocks at the President everytime he drives by and start doing some real darn work, like fixing some of the stuff in the country that is f'ed up!

kind of went off on a tangent there but thats my :2cents:

rory_20_uk
03-10-2006, 01:09
That bills can be tacked to gether like that I find amazing. Sod GM foodstuffs, the engineered bills that must get seen in the houses must be breathtaking.

That a compromise on the ports appears to be the foreign company making a shell company that it owns to put the ports in might be accepted demonstrates how farcical this really is. Rebrand it, and all's OK! :thumbsup:

No system of parties works, it is the individuals themselves that need to work, and that rarely happens. People that will not be bought by thinly veiled bribes, ones that stick to policies because they are right in the long term, and politicians that will help the other side to pass legislation that makes sense, and possibly even admit culpability when they're wrong.

Ideally, the leader needs to be hardworking, extremely bright and well read. The USA has some way to go on this with the current lazy incumbent; and Clinton is different in that he was very bright.

To climb high on the greasy pole and not be tainted to the point where ideals are there to be bought may be a dream from ages past, but it is still a nice idea. Of course the populace doesn't help in choosing a leader in what sounds good and who looks good, regardless if they have no substance.

Blair is pretty much the same. Instead of old fashioned results, we have goals - OK, we may have got nowhere now, but look at how much noise we are making!! Laws by the dozen where in theory anyone can be arrested for anything.

Crime down? Erm, no. But now they're ASBOs, terror legislation, etc etc... Oh, and the EU can overturn it all anyway. :dizzy2:
Schools working? Erm, kids can now buy knife proof armour for schools.
Hospitals? We're spending a lot...

So, the Democrats, if they pull themselves together, get some ideas rather than merely being united in hating the Republicans will probably remain with their snouts in the toughs, making money from the people and companies that placed them there - who else can afford to bankroll Senators?

People that don't play the game will never get that far. Of couse there are exceptions such as Mr Livingstone, but did he have to fight - and now has returned to the Labour fold once again, even though holds drastically different views to labour...

governments are basically the biggest gangs in the land who we pay protection money to. They answer to no one and to dissent is to be ignored or in the UK to be arrested then quietly be released when the cameras are elsewhere.

Sure some call me cynical... :laugh4:

~:smoking:

Kanamori
03-10-2006, 01:34
The second point above reveals one of the few weaknesses in the American Republican system as opposed to a Parliamentary system a la England. If the PM lost such a major vote because her or his own party rejected administration policy so completely it would likely constitute a vote of "No Confidence" and elections would be called to assure a leader who could create (via voter base or political coalition) majority support.

Here in the US, we'll have a very early-on lame duck President whose ability to effect domestic policy would be largely negated. The result of this will NOT be Congress leaping up to take control and establish a cohesive policy to move the nation forward, but a hodge-podge of unrelated and unfocussed legislation that will do little but respond to the whim of the moment -- gridlock for want of purpose. Bush will still be the Commander in Chief, and would still be able to pursue many of the objectives of the War on Terror, but would have difficulty generating the support for another major operation (absent another major attack on the US). Political capital is, for a President, the key to success.

Where do I sign for the amendments?:2thumbsup:

KukriKhan
03-10-2006, 13:38
Dubai says: "nevermind". http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060310/NATION/603100343/1020

One would expect the headline-grubbing poli's would be happy. But no... they're gonna push the deal-breaker legislation through anyway. So, this obviously had nothing to do with security, and much to due with "you can't veto me, I'm up for election!" -ism.

So, are they gonna wrest control of all 131 ports from all non-US companies? Better get out your wallets, folks; this grandstand play is gonna be expensive.

KukriKhan
03-11-2006, 15:55
Not to mention, I wonder what will happen to the $10 billion Boeing orders made by Dubai. Maybe they look elsewhere now. And I wonder when the leases are up on the US air and naval bases there.