RTW which is the hardest faction to win with ?

[jarmel]

Hi everyone .

I'm in need of a challenge , I played RTW 1.5 as Julli on meduim l and won easy , so i played the Seluds on hard and won easier currently I am playing as the brits on very hard and at the rate im going will win fairly easy again .

So which is the hardest faction to play ?

[Garvanko]

Don't bother. You're too good.

[Laman]

Dacia or the Iberians maybe?

[Avicenna]

Dacia, Numidia or Scythia?

[Dutch_guy]

Numidians on vh/vh .

Scythia and Dacia are a walk in the park compared to the Numidians.

:balloon2:

[Antagonist]

I'd say Numidia as well. Poor provinces, hedged in by more powerful enemy, limited unit roster... If I wore a hat, I would take it off to the person who wins a long VH/VH Numidia campaign.

Antagonist

[The_White_Knight]

I'd say Numidia as well. Poor provinces, hedged in by more powerful enemy, limited unit roster... If I wore a hat, I would take it off to the person who wins a long VH/VH Numidia campaign.

Antagonist

I'd do the same. I wouldn't believe anybody would be able to stand the boringness Numidia offers through a full campaign~:handball: .

[Dutch_guy]

Wouldn't say it's boring TWK, rather the opposite.

It should be fun to fight for your life and try to consolidate your little empire, however as with every faction once you get to that point the campaign is almost certainly won.

:balloon2:

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Germania?

[Avicenna]

Germania has powerful infantry, wide choice of units and is just up against barbarians, rebels, dacians and scythians.

Rebels should be hardest, everyone has 600 hostility towards them. ;)

[Antagonist]

Yeah, I would've said Germania are the easiest of the barbarian factions.

Hey, how about BI? Hardest faction? I would have said Berbers, but I played a Berber campaign (VH/VH Short) and I found it to be pretty easy (largely because there is almost no concentrated opposition) A long berber campaign would be hard as hell though.

Antagonist

[Avicenna]

Celts? Once you take Britain, RB appear. Then you have to destroy them. And then make your way into a horde infested mainland, trying to beat back the Franks who want France and the Saxons who want England.

[jarmel]

Thanks all :2thumbsup:

Numidia is a challenge, thus far 40 turns and all im doing is fending off the gypts, romans and carthages , while spain is also keepin me honest by having one of their stacks on my land :furious3: .All my cities are severly under developed i'm hanging on for dear life and lovin it :laugh4:
I lost libya after quite a few battles, sheer wieght of numbers did it in the end . I think thats a good thing tho as it was stretchin my finances too much. I thought about selling up and looting libya from the get go and use that to finance an attack on the carthages but the thought of looting my own people :no:

[Lemur]

Yet another Numidian vote.

[x-dANGEr]

Carthage are scattered now, and the Egyptians shouldn't worry much about you. So just strike Carthage and take it, build some finances and push to Africa. Then, when Egypt is at war with a couple of factions, try to swarm it :D

What's boring about Numidia, is the long deserted provinces. I liked Carthage campaign more (And I found it to be the hardest, before 1.5 at least (In 1.6, they diverted the Scipii attention to Greece first.) Before that, you'd have the romans, spanish and numidians on your throught).

[Antagonist]

Celts? Once you take Britain, RB appear. Then you have to destroy them. And then make your way into a horde infested mainland, trying to beat back the Franks who want France and the Saxons who want England.

I won a H/H Celt campaign, it was challenging but not impossibly difficult. They face a lot more opposition than the Berbers, but they also have a considerably stronger selection of units, including the unfeasibly powerful Hounds of Culann. The initial fight against the Romano-British is hard, but once you win it they're finished.

[Dutch_guy]

The Celt campaign I played wasn't a realy challenge, the game winning battle was againt the RB - who sieged Londinium.

However I just defended the city plaza, the weren't able to break through the line.

After that you've basicly won, the world is your playground.

:balloon2:

[Neco]

Numidia is definitely the toughest to win with, though I think armenia would also be fairly hard, at least in the beginning.

[Dutch_guy]

true,

but as you said, once you win the initial 2 battles - which may be hard, depending on difficulty, general, units, tactics etc... - you've practically won.

Your armenian cav. will win all your battles.

:balloon2:

[Avicenna]

Allemani? One province and you're dead. Add that to the hordes invading Europe.

For RTW you also have a considerably difficult and very very bugged Senate.

[Diurpaneus]

Scythia because HA cant kill legionaries or other heavy armoured unit

[jarmel]

I've allied with spain now , So that has freed up some men to contain Cirta. However everytime I advance to Carthage the redii and Bluii :laugh4: keep landing troops to attack cirta. All i seem to be doing is fighting a battle each turn then retreating to retrain my small army (they have got great valour tho). Thinking I might take Thapsas not Carthage , if i take the later I'll be able to bank roll 2 armies and game over maybe ?

[Diurpaneus]

:laugh4:

[Kierkegaard]

well, perhaps you can play some mods, such as SPQR6.0 (compatible with RTW1.5) with VH/VH, then you will know what is HARDEST or IMPOSSIBLE!:juggle2: :juggle2:

if you Play with vanilla RTW, perhaps almost every faction will be easy for you!

[jarmel]

well, perhaps you can play some mods, such as SPQR6.0 (compatible with RTW1.5) with VH/VH, then you will know what is HARDEST or IMPOSSIBLE!:juggle2: :juggle2:

if you Play with vanilla RTW, perhaps almost every faction will be easy for you!

Yup good call . The BKB mod made medieval TW much more challenging .

[PseRamesses]

RTW: Numidia
BI: Berbers
RTR: Sarmatians
EB: Parthia

The main problem IMO isn´t to win with any faction but to get to that point when things are going your way with decent troops, money in the black etc. Currently I´m stuck in my Parthian campaign (EB) and the only option left is to declare war on the Seleukids (my allies) which will probably bring me to war with both Bactria and the Armenians too and that is what I´m afraid of since I simply can´t muster the troops for a three front war.

[edyzmedieval]

One of my best friends is a bit obsessed. He won with Numidia on VH/VH. :juggle2:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Celts? Once you take Britain, RB appear. Then you have to destroy them. And then make your way into a horde infested mainland, trying to beat back the Franks who want France and the Saxons who want England.

i beat the Celts easily (normal mode) bring a strong army with noble (clan cavalry) cavalry, those 2h swordsmen (forgot their name) some pictish spearmen a few hounds of culaan and of course a general. if you cant get noble cavalry get the lighter ones. once the WRE is removed from britain you should be alble to beat the Romano-Brithish. then take over east france, spain, italy and your done! (also make alliances with hordes such as vandals, make war with franks and Allemani) this was my second time beating campiagn.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

i say Carhage is the easiest once you take Sicily, Croton, Tarentum, Capua, Rome, crushed Spain, the world is yours. careful of egypt!

[Avicenna]

Well Spartan, nothing is really that difficult on medium campaign difficulty.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

hmmm.. never tried hard before, i might try it out. but wats the difference?

[Monarch]

Allemani? One province and you're dead. Add that to the hordes invading Europe.

For RTW you also have a considerably difficult and very very bugged Senate.

Nah, I found Alemanni quite easy. Just make sure you ally with Germanic Barbs, set up forts on passes/bridges to keep hordes away and then set off into WRE where your axemen will slice through Roman comitanses.

[Garvanko]

Allemani aren't so hard. Saxons and Franks are easy - even on Hard settings. Just need to get those Alliances sorted, then you'll be fine.

The micromanagement of the WRE early on really kills it for me in their campaigns. Challenging yes, but the start is mentally draining - spending half an hour and more on turn one, arrrrggghhhh!!!!

[AndyNgFL]

I am a player who like challenges and tried many different approaches with many factions. I started my first campaign on VH/VH and had not tried anything less than that difficulty since.

Numidia ? I tell u. Its EASY.
Even on ver 1.3 VH/VH
If you are attack minded, you can rush your original Siwa army to Thebes. There is a 50% chance that u can exterminate Thebes in 3 turns bcoz it has NO WALLS and poorly defended. But SOMETIMES, it has rebels or small egyptian army blocking the route.
Else, start building a Numidian port in the Capital and ferry a Diplomat across to Spain/Gaul border to negotiate trade and sell maps to get $$$. Concentrate your military build in Siwa, Peasants for garrisons, Archers for Defence (later attack thebes) , Infantry for Attack. Attack Thebes with at least 3 Archers and 3 Infantry and a few Calvary units and the rest of the Egyptian cities are chicken feet. I have tried many approaches, I can take Thebes, Memphis, Alexandria by BC 260.

Summary :
All out military build in Siwa. Egypt is a fat land to plunder.

I would say Parthia is the most difficult. Why ?
1) Parthian land is huge. It will take several turns to move from one city to another.
2) U can only build roads (no more than that) that will be filled with REBELS
3) Your economy is poor.
4) There is not much FAT LANDS beside you.

[Dutch_guy]

Well Parthia isn't that hard, your HA will rip every seleucid pikeman to pieces,and you won't need loads of HA - so if you're carefull you won't need to go on a spending spree.

You just plunder your way towards Antioch and later towards Egypt, then money won't be a problem,ever.

If you catch egypt before they get their Uber bowmen and chariots, you'll be fine.

The only thing to watch out for are the backstabbing Armenians - who have a similar army composition as you have, so battles can go wrong badly if your not carefull.

If you find NUmidia easy and Parthia hard, then you'll find Armenia the hardest.

Really

:balloon2:

[Garvanko]

If you had to rank factions based on difficulty, then IMO, this is what you'd come up with, from easiest to hardest..

YOU SIMPLY CANNOT FAIL
Greek Cities

MONEYMAKERS
Egypt
Roman Brutii
Roman Scipii

BIT OF A CHALLENGE
Roman Julii
Macedon
Carthage

COULD GO EITHER WAY
Spain
Britannia
Gaul
Pontus
Seleucid Empire
Germania

BORING AND A BIT DIFFICULT
Dacia
Thrace

DISTANCE TO EVERYTHING A PROBLEM
Armenia
Parthia
Scythia

WHERE DO YOU BEGIN?
Numidia

[AndyNgFL]

I agree Armenia can be quite difficult too ! Its economy is similar to Pathia. Its position is similar to Pathia. Its military is similar to Pathia. The only thing is that Armenia has to choose where to attack in the beggining. There are fat lands and closely packed cities to the south. So, Armenia is slightly better than Pathia.

For Pathia, the best traditional attacking option in the beggining is to attack Armenia. Then Seleucid Empire. These two are not a problem. The problem comes when u leave Egypt alone. It will become a superpower. Thier arrow shooting chariots and long range bowmen and pose a proble to HAs. Egypt is a worthy opponent if you let them grow. And, Seleucid Empire and Egypt should war each other. But the many campaigns I played, if I attack Seleucid Empire, the Egyptian will ally with Seleucid and cross Arabia to attack my city, Seleucia (Babylonia).
So after some experimentation, I found out that while I Blitz Armenia and take only Seleucia (with a Wonder) from the Seleucid Empire, preparing a stack full of HAs at Susa and send one young General aross the Arabian desert with it and gallop straight to Memphis, ignoring anything, can be quite fun.

I've tried Armenia and Pathia, both can be difficult especially if you leave Egypt to grow into a superpower.

[jarmel]

Okay wre in BI is a challenge , after losing about 6 provinces and just as i thought i was in a position to counter attack, Wrong 2 hordes pop up both with 6 full stacks right in my heartlands :dizzy2: .

:2thumbsup:

[Barbarossa1221]

Scythia is actually pretty easy even on hard, with all those horse archers its pretty easy to take out a roman force of infantry and once you get better units like noble HA its even easier.
I found dacia a little troubling in the beginning because of little to no money and i had to sell all the map info and get all the trade rights I could.

But I hated playing Numidia the most, terrible infantry and almost no heavy cavalry except for some small elephants and vast distances in that desert and your up against carthage and egypt 2 big powerhouses. I hated numidia.

[Ephrum]

I'd have to say Numidia, because they've been the second eliminated on every single campaign I've played (besides the Selucids).

I usually play as the Britons, they're cool.

[Ciaran]

If you had to rank factions based on difficulty, then IMO, this is what you'd come up with, from easiest to hardest..

YOU SIMPLY CANNOT FAIL
Greek Cities

MONEYMAKERS
Egypt
Roman Brutii
Roman Scipii

BIT OF A CHALLENGE
Roman Julii
Macedon
Carthage

COULD GO EITHER WAY
Spain
Britannia
Gaul
Pontus
Seleucid Empire
Germania

BORING AND A BIT DIFFICULT
Dacia
Thrace

DISTANCE TO EVERYTHING A PROBLEM
Armenia
Parthia
Scythia

WHERE DO YOU BEGIN?
Numidia

I daresay you can very well fail with Greek Cities, namely if you don´t have the hang on phalanx units. They don´t have much else. I find it hard to fail with Julii (failing meaning not managing the starting phase, once you´re established the faction doesn´t matter much). I´d also put Gaul into the "bit of a challenge" slot, due to the fact that they lack utterly in the anti-cavalry department (no decent cav on their own and their spear warbands only have light spears), making them, in my opinion, the weakest barbarian faction, though I don´t know about Dacia.
Is Numidia really that bad?