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mystic brew
03-14-2006, 03:17
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1723216,00.html

in Russia

Prosecutors allege that days before Mr Chebayev was due to go on trial, on May 3 last year, Mr Bespalov was abducted by a gang of men who thrust him into a car, binding his hands and covering his eyes with a woolly hat.

When the hat was removed, Mr Bespalov told the court this week, he was in a forest glade surrounded by masked men in camouflage.

He told the court, according to media reports: "Another two men, their heads bound up by rags, lay down with their heads resting on a log, so I was unable to see their faces."

He said Mr Kalyadentsev, who is Mr Chebayev's nephew, told him to watch what he was doing closely and that he would be killed if he closed his eyes. "Kalyadentsev took the axe and with three blows severed the head of one of the [Uzbek] victims," Mr Bespalov said.

He said Mr Kalyadentsev held a knife to his throat, threatening him with the same fate if he did not cut off the other Uzbek's head. "He was filming it all, and said I had to smile into the camera. I did what he asked."

This is as if someone took philosophy 101 and constructed a scenario on how to get someone to commit evil... and then applied it.

I have to say there is something uniquely chilling to this.

English assassin
03-14-2006, 10:54
Woo, so this guy was kidnapped and made to decapitate a completely random bloke, just to make a tape that would discredit him as a witness?

What the **** is happening to Russia?

Idaho
03-14-2006, 12:02
From the trailer for the upcoming Channel 4 programme:

In Russia abortions outnumber live births, half of children die in infancy, life expectancy is 50 years...

The place is f****d.

econ21
03-14-2006, 12:37
Sounds like a plot for those sick contemporary horror movies (Saw, Hostel, the Hills have Eyes) ... why do I have a sinking feeling that it will be?

The whole thing does not compute.

Why kidnap the witness and make him kill two random people, rather than just kill the witness?

Why get involved in two murders - extremely serious crimes - to try to escape the rap for a case of assault - a much lesser one?

I suppose "gangsters" don't have to be particularly rational, but it does seem closer to the behaviour of serial killers than mobsters.

If I were the police, I'd look closely at the alleged witness. But then I suppose that's what the "gangsters" wanted.

mystic brew
03-14-2006, 15:43
well thats the whole reason the story struck me so much...

None of it makes sense. it's an insane overreaction... it doesn't make sense on any level.
But I guess this is the point, that in this place the normal social contract has broken down almost entirely.

drone
03-14-2006, 16:49
If what the witness says is true, I can see some reasons behind the mafia's actions. Not only can they discredit the witness, but they can scar him mentally forever. Two dead immigrants don't mean much to them, and a chilling warning is given to others about crossing them. Just killing the witness would possibly lead to more serious charges, and Chebayev would have been a prime suspect.

Xiahou
03-14-2006, 19:09
From the trailer for the upcoming Channel 4 programme:

In Russia abortions outnumber live births, half of children die in infancy, life expectancy is 50 years...

The place is f****d.
It seems like Russia is fast becoming a 3rd world dictatorship. Too bad it's one with huge stockpiles of ICBMs. :skull: