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master of the puppets
03-15-2006, 17:14
Ok, so we've seen the posts, we've read the threads, and we have trash talked just about every world leader of a major country. bush is an idiot, blairs a whimp, chivec is a jerk, ahmadinejad is a phsyco, and north korea is to obvious to state.
so then in your opinion, who is the greatest national leader in 2006. will he be chinese, or nordic, or other, you decide.
Banquo's Ghost
03-15-2006, 17:18
so then in your opinion, who is the greatest national leader in 2006. will he be chinese, or nordic, or other, you decide.
Happy to play, but I need some clear definition of parameters first. Greatest by what criteria?
master of the puppets
03-15-2006, 17:26
one who has won the love of his populace by bringing his country massive profits, or lifting the status of living in his country. he who has brought his country into a better light as viewed by the rest of the world.
Louis VI the Fat
03-15-2006, 17:56
Angela Merkel's start has been promising.
Of the leaders of other major countries, Blair is the only one who isn't a complete and utter joke.
Sjakihata
03-15-2006, 18:05
Arguably Viktor Jushenko (sp), although I hear corruption is ripe once again.
Proletariat
03-15-2006, 18:08
Arguably Viktor Jushenko (sp), although I hear corruption is ripe once again.
I'd go for Viktor too, even if the Westernization of his country seems to be trading one mafia for another.
Blairs the only leader of a major power that i respect, although its hard as all leaders are to an extent dislikable...
George Bush, definately needs to be up there. He's the only leader around with a backbone these days. One of the few politicians who will righteously raise their middle finger to the protestors if he believes it could help our country. Sure you can rag him for the war in Iraq, but every president since the gulf war has wanted to invade. Clinton wanted to invade but was talked down to sending over some cruise missles. People may disagree with what he does, but at least he does it for the right reasons. He isnt like those guys in congress who wouldnt kill an ant if it meant it could offend .00001% of the population. Bush is truly a leader, and not just a politician.
Ironside
03-15-2006, 19:04
He isnt like those guys in congress who wouldnt kill an ant if it meant it could offend .00001% of the population.
Instead he offends 99.9999% of the population. :dizzy2:
He gets a C or D by his supporters on this forum.
Guts without sence doesn't make a great leader.
On the homefront I would give Göran Persson and B, but having him as the greatest leader would be :fainting: :eeeek:
The "problem" with decent leaders is that they rarely end up in the media, so I cannot really say anyone from the top of my mind.
It's a pretty poor crop at the moment. Does it always seem this bad at the time? Maybe better in hindsight...
solypsist
03-15-2006, 21:44
our time? be more specific - you mean the last 50, 20, or 10 years?
Strike For The South
03-15-2006, 21:47
kinky friedman
Sjakihata
03-15-2006, 22:23
our time? be more specific - you mean the last 50, 20, or 10 years?
When he said our time I assumed that he meant THIS DAY and forward, if it is 100 or 50 years back, clearly Lenin or Mao would take the spot!
Papewaio
03-15-2006, 22:34
our time? be more specific - you mean the last 50, 20, or 10 years?
so then in your opinion, who is the greatest national leader in 2006
I have an inkling that he means current leaders...
lancelot
03-15-2006, 22:37
Blairs the only leader of a major power that i respect, although its hard as all leaders are to an extent dislikable...
Oh dear.... you respect Tory?, woops....sorry, I meant Tony.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
03-15-2006, 22:38
As Louis has stated, Merkel has had a good start, as has Stephen Harper of Canada.
Rodion Romanovich
03-15-2006, 22:40
The "problem" with decent leaders is that they rarely end up in the media, so I cannot really say anyone from the top of my mind.
Yes :2thumbsup: Maybe we'll know their names in 50 years from now, maybe not... But I think the best leader is to find among those who haven't been in the papers.
The_Doctor
03-15-2006, 22:46
Me.
Alexanderofmacedon
03-15-2006, 22:55
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Rawr!:laugh4:
George Bush, definately needs to be up there. He's the only leader around with a backbone these days. One of the few politicians who will righteously raise their middle finger to the protestors if he believes it could help our country. Sure you can rag him for the war in Iraq, but every president since the gulf war has wanted to invade. Clinton wanted to invade but was talked down to sending over some cruise missles. People may disagree with what he does, but at least he does it for the right reasons. He isnt like those guys in congress who wouldnt kill an ant if it meant it could offend .00001% of the population. Bush is truly a leader, and not just a politician.
Hahahaha
master of the puppets
03-15-2006, 23:49
papewaio is right, who is best AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
i would have to vote for the leaders of ethiopia, they have done so many good things for there country.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Rawr!:laugh4:
Oh poor Cali.
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Kaiser of Arabia
03-16-2006, 00:47
Toughie. Not too many good world leaders today, but I like Merkel and I like the Polish dude. Putin would be cool if he wasn't such a commie. I dunno if Sharon is still alive even, much less a world leader. If he was, he'd get the honor without hesitiation.
Kim Jong-il gets honorable mention just for being weird. I mean, come on. Look at the guy. He's pathetic.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
03-16-2006, 04:09
Might as well nominate Castro as well. His ability to stick it to the big guy constantly and come out more or less unscathed astounds me. A toast to him!
Soulforged
03-16-2006, 04:20
Don't know what you mean by "better" but I'll go with Ernesto "Che" Guevara.:book:
Don't know what you mean by "better" but I'll go with Ernesto "Che" Guevara.:book:
Yeah a real hero. :idea2:
Reverend Joe
03-16-2006, 04:37
kinky friedman
~:thumb: YES!
No...
Wait...
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Soulforged
03-16-2006, 04:43
Yeah a real hero. :idea2:Unnecessary right wing agitation. Check again "leader" vs. "hero". And recheck "hero" vs "what you think is an hero".
EDIT: Spelling.
Zalmoxis
03-16-2006, 04:48
Politicians should not be leaders.
BORAT!
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Byzantine Prince
03-16-2006, 05:22
Stephen Colbert, for leading his nation into an age of hillarity never before known to me. :laugh4:
Tachikaze
03-16-2006, 08:51
I'll go with Castro. He's not really the best, but, in a sense, I have to admire him.
Banquo's Ghost
03-16-2006, 11:55
one who has won the love of his populace by bringing his country massive profits, or lifting the status of living in his country. he who has brought his country into a better light as viewed by the rest of the world.
Well, in these terms, Wen Jiabao, Premier of China, will be hard to beat in 2006.
Hugo Chavez.
There are very few other world leaders who have successfully brought such joy, happiness, prosperity and justice to as many people as him. Every person should not only respect what he has and is doing for his people, but do exactly the same for their own nations.
Tachikaze
03-16-2006, 15:58
Hugo Chavez.
There are very few other world leaders who have successfully brought such joy, happiness, prosperity and justice to as many people as him. Every person should not only respect what he has and is doing for his people, but do exactly the same for their own nations.
If you can find some balanced articles about him on the Internet, please pass on the links. It's hard for me to find good information. The news here is so slanted or incomplete. While some of our news agencies don't treat him as a wacko, they spend more words on the controversies than the substance of the man and his policies.
I hope you're right about him.
Tribesman
03-16-2006, 18:47
Hugo Chavez.
Nah , some very good policies and some very bad ones , just another politician .:shrug:
All my faith is in this guy. ^^
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Evo Morales
Taffy_is_a_Taff
03-16-2006, 21:26
Stalin was better.
Kaiser of Arabia
03-16-2006, 21:46
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I mean, at least Bashir knows how to dress when your the leader of a third world nation, and Kim Jong likes movies.
If you can find some balanced articles about him on the Internet, please pass on the links. It's hard for me to find good information. The news here is so slanted or incomplete. While some of our news agencies don't treat him as a wacko, they spend more words on the controversies than the substance of the man and his policies.
I hope you're right about him.
There was a brilliant article written in the New Statesman at the end of last year which sums up Chavez's achievements fairly well.
http://www.newstatesman.com/200510100012
I believe you have to pay for articles or be a subscriber, but I also think you can view one article a day free of charge, so you should be able to see it.
If you want some more personal accounts and further information, Johann Hari did two good articles on him when he went to Venezuela.
http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=653
http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=656
All worth reading by all.
Devastatin Dave
03-16-2006, 23:46
Bobby Cox... He's led the Braves to 14 consecutive division titles and last year did it again with the largest contengent of rookies any team has ever fielded and led to a division title. His greatness knows no bounds. We just won't talk about his play off record.:laugh4:
You can generally bet that anything JAG gives you on Chavez will be a commie love-fest of slanted facts. No better than if Navaros was giving you the information.
~:rolleyes:
Tach is a very intelligent man, he can come to the conclusions himself, I am sure.
Have you actually read the articles, or is the horror of actually reading about the benefits of socialism / Chavez, too hard to bear?
Tachikaze
03-18-2006, 05:31
Tach is a very intelligent man
Uh oh, Cube, you're right: JAG will believe anything.
:bounce:
JAG's got a good point for everyone. We should all read what we can before drawing conclusions. I know I haven't had the most balanced information about Chavez and I'm really interested in knowing more. I hope he will do well for Venezuela.
Samurai Waki
03-18-2006, 05:41
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This Guy!:2thumbsup:
Divinus Arma
03-18-2006, 06:00
Okay. I'll bite.
Colin Powell. Here's why:
The man was the dissenting voice of the Bush administration and regular fought withiin the administartion for what he believed what right.
Even after being set up as the fall guy at the UN, Powell departed from the administration- something lesser men in pursuit of power would NEVER do. He clearly is in no pursuit of power.
Powell is a man of inegrity who is not afraid to take right action but also knows when it is his place to follow.
This man, as the President of the United States, would end up in the history books as one of our greatest presidents ever.
And the man has no desire to run! What a tragedy.:shame:
Byzantine Prince
03-18-2006, 06:24
Colin Powell? Yeah whatever! A little research on him will show you more dirt then most politicians, irrespective to his military history.
look at this face!
It's got sodomy written all over.:no:
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Banquo's Ghost
03-18-2006, 11:32
Powell is a man of inegrity who is not afraid to take right action but also knows when it is his place to follow.
This man, as the President of the United States, would end up in the history books as one of our greatest presidents ever.
And the man has no desire to run! What a tragedy.:shame:
As an outsider to your country, I would tend to agree and would look forward to such a presidency. I think he might accomplish what Rabin did for Israel and the Middle East - a proven warrior but with the intelligence and courage to see beyond the yah-boo, tit-for-tat politics. A man whose people would trust him to take care of their interests strongly, whilst still being able to find a way to peace through integrity.
Strike For The South
03-18-2006, 16:45
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Louis VI the Fat
03-18-2006, 21:24
Why ar ye promoting yer pa here, Strike?
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