2004 U.S. tax in visual form

[solypsist]

http://www.deviantart.com/view/9410862/

dial-up users beware.

[Byzantine Prince]

And people complain that we in Canada spend far too little money on defense. There is practically no defense needed people! We need more moeny for education and transportation. Military these days is just a "we have a big penis" ideology, that has no real use.

Sometimes I hate democracy. :wall:

[solypsist]

it's fun seeing how expensive the allotment for that year's Raptor program (a warplane) is, compared to so many budgets for social services programs and veterans programs.

[Spetulhu]

The military is dead-weight in an economy, but it has undeniable strategic value that benefits everyone if used right. Don't blame military spending, blame the people who use the military in a dumb way. If you wanna go on about bad spending i'd be looking at the social side of that graph.

Yeah, because a military could be used for getting all that money back instead of just spending it. Where's the loot?

[Kraxis]

Wait a moment... Weren't both the Osprey and Comanche scrapped?
Surprised to see a 50/50 here... That is a big slice for the military. I think we use somewhere around 3% orsomething like that.

Are the big nuclear weapons under the DOE section of the military (the little bubble in the lower right of the military section)?

25 billion $ for medical care for veterans. Wow... That says a bit. Not that it isn't right, just that it is a whole lot.
I want to know what qualifies as veteran as this figure is significantly larger than the inefficient (in terms of money at least) and expensive Danish system that still caters for 5.2 million for free.

[Papewaio]

Read the middle bubble... this is discretionary spending... things that they can decide to spend on... mandatory spending such as social security is not included...

[Kraxis]

Wait a moment... Weren't both the Osprey and Comanche scrapped?
And then it was that I noticed the four little numbers mentioned in every title from the first to the last post. 2 0 0 4... It is at times like these that I feel very attentive.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

53 billion wasted on the Dep. of Education. What a waste.

[solypsist]

were you homeschooled?


53 billion wasted on the Dep. of Education. What a waste.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Nope. I'm not homeschooled.

Only kids who have an average grade above a 77.5 should be allowed to go to school. The rest should be sent to the factories.

[solypsist]

Nope. I'm not homeschooled.

Only kids who have an average grade above a 77.5 should be allowed to go to school. The rest should be sent to the factories.

that's a lot of potential republicans in the factories!

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/images/mathematics/results/fig2_6.gif

[Strike For The South]

Texas is above average. Not that that should surprise anyone mind you

[Xiahou]

53 billion wasted on the Dep. of Education. What a waste.Amen brother.


The military is dead-weight in an economy, but it has undeniable strategic value that benefits everyone if used right.Not totally dead weight- most of that cash is finding it's way back into the private sector in one form or another.

I do like how the link says it's dishonest to actually show all federal spending. It's much better if we only show the part that reinforces our point. :laugh:

[discovery1]

Don't be too hard on the Dept of Education. At least some of the funds go to subsidizing higher education, which is useful for people like me. Now the interest rate is going up because of buget cuts. Not fatal, but still a burden.

[Idaho]

Nope. I'm not homeschooled.

Only kids who have an average grade above a 77.5 should be allowed to go to school. The rest should be sent to the factories.

You want them sent to Mexico and China? :laugh4:

[BDC]

Swap the military with education, could work better.

[Louis VI the Fat]

That's a large amount spend on the military. What a waste.

But we must bear several things in mind:
These are only federal taxes. Many taxes are levied at the state or local level, and states don't have a military budget. (Well maybe Texas secretly has, just to show the rest who's boss should the need arise)
This is only federal discretionary spending. It doesn't include fixed obligations.
A good deal of military spending goes towards R&D. i.e. government subsidies not classified as such in an effort to fool America's trade partners.
The total tax burden in the US is low in comparison to other industrialised nations. Many services that are run by the government in other countries are privatised, or plain non-existent, in the US. A higher percentage of taxes are spend on the military, of a lower tax burden. Levelling spending as percentage of income.

All in all, of every dollar made in America only about 3.5% is spend on the military. A lot, but not nearly as much as this graph seems to suggest. By comparison, the UK and France have a defense budget of about 2.75% of GDP, most other western countries between 1.5% and 2%.

[Vladimir]

http://www.deviantart.com/view/9410862/

dial-up users beware.

More ignorance on the budget. What I find more troubling is that people don't know that a "cut" is a reduction in the planned spending increase, don’t know what the difference between discretionary and mandatory spending is, and look at amount of spending instead of the percentage. Since you just included the link I hope that I understand you point correctly. I think you need a proper education in the history of the US budget. Look at the percentage spent on defense in the past, compare it to the spending during the 90’s, then make a reasoned decision based on that.

[Xiahou]

That's a large amount spend on the military. What a waste.

But we must bear several things in mind:
These are only federal taxes. Many taxes are levied at the state or local level, and states don't have a military budget. (Well maybe Texas secretly has, just to show the rest who's boss should the need arise)
This is only federal discretionary spending. It doesn't include fixed obligations.
A good deal of military spending goes towards R&D. i.e. government subsidies not classified as such in an effort to fool America's trade partners.
The total tax burden in the US is low in comparison to other industrialised nations. Many services that are run by the government in other countries are privatised, or plain non-existent, in the US. A higher percentage of taxes are spend on the military, of a lower tax burden. Levelling spending as percentage of income.

All in all, of every dollar made in America only about 3.5% is spend on the military. A lot, but not nearly as much as this graph seems to suggest. By comparison, the UK and France have a defense budget of about 2.75% of GDP, most other western countries between 1.5% and 2%.
Wow, that was a really good post. :bow:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

You want them sent to Mexico and China? :laugh4:
Nah, I'd rather send them to Taiwan and India :laugh4:

[Major Robert Dump]

Osprey is still in the works. They are ironing out its issues, so to speak, but it is, in my opinion, another example of poorly designed technology making it into the lineup because someone in the manufacturing sector has their nose up the ass of someone on the The Apprpriations Comittee.
Havent heard of any dead marines lately, nice to know it only took 10 years for them to get it right. Must make the families of the deceased ecstatic. Maybe if our missle defense system killed a dozen people or so they would speed up development a tad, since that ones been going on now for as long as I've known how to read.