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Strike For The South
03-20-2006, 03:03
I was watching the telly and saw a commerical that went along these lines.
She got high
She got AIDS
How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS :no:
Byzantine Prince
03-20-2006, 03:07
You can get AIDS by masturbating without a condom and we all know that getting high makes you hungry which in turn makes you very horny.
Spetulhu
03-20-2006, 04:17
How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS :no:
Being high, no. Losing your self-control as a result of that high, yes.
Not that scare tactics work anyway. People know they're not going to catch anything, it only happens to others. :wall:
Maybe if they'd been a little more specific, you know, something about needle-sharing and rough buggery. Something a little more convincing. I'm not sure anyone is stupid enough to think that toking up will give you AIDS.
Unless it does ... [scary music]
You have to be pretty stupid to believe that.
I was watching the telly and saw a commerical that went along these lines.
She got high
She got AIDS
How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS :no:
Come on strike did you really have to use the word telly I mean come on this is America.:book:
Samurai Waki
03-20-2006, 05:55
Theres a meth anti-drug movement too, if you've ever seen those commercials... some guy pulling out all of his eyebrows with a tweezer. You'd have to be almost mentally retarded to try something like meth anyways.
Theres a meth anti-drug movement too, if you've ever seen those commercials... some guy pulling out all of his eyebrows with a tweezer.
I might do that on a dare for twenty bucks. The real side effects of meth are far more bizarre and disgusting.
Yeah. Just take a look at a meth-head, and you'll never do the drug:
http://www.stopmethaddiction.com/img/meth-user7.jpg
Try getting some Google images on 'meth mites' or 'crank scabs'. Reading an article on them will only make things worse.
doc_bean
03-20-2006, 08:09
You'd have to be almost mentally retarded to try something like meth anyways.
I know a few people who did and ended up fine...
Moderation people, it's all in the dosage...
Samurai Waki
03-20-2006, 08:29
moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.
Plus the girl in that picture above is actually not a worse case scenario on the physical adversities that meth can cause, thats mild at best. When I went to highschool there was a girl that took meth, she was quite pretty then... I saw her about a year after I graduated, she lost all her hair, all her teeth, her nose, was blind in one eye... and was almost completely brain dead. She couldn't speak, and she didn't have a clue about what was going on around her.~:mecry: ~:eek:
Major Robert Dump
03-20-2006, 08:46
I personally love the nationalistic commercials that link marijuana use to supporting terrorism, I don't see them as frequently but they are still around. An insult to the publics intelligence and it undermines the war on terror. the DEA and washington is full of s*** for not distinguishing between narcotics and things like pot and hash, and it only reinforces my opinion that the baby boomers of america are some of the biggest f***** sell outs in history, and it proves that old, out of touch men still run this country and that the prison system is, in fact, a political tool.
In Oklahoma having as little as a dime bag and "paraphenillia" is grounds to have 7 different charges brought against you, including charges that mean you lose your home and everything in it if you are convicted. The war on drugs is a business, and seizures of assets can make up to 20% of a sheriff departments operating budget. Cops, washington, and every privatized corrections company can lick my butthole
The outlandish messages given by governments are totally counterproductive.
They take all drugs in any circumstances and say "these are bad and will do terrible things". The problem is that young people try a drug and whoa - it's not bad.. it actually feels good! Obviously the government are totally wrong about drugs and I will ignore any advice. Or they do a little study at school and find out the history and use of cocaine and opium and how they revolutionised much of medicine.
Honesty is what's needed. Yes drug A makes you feel weird, drug B makes you feel confident, drug C blots out all your problems, drug D is quite mild but can have strong effects. The side effects of A and B are this, the good points are this, the safer doses are this, overdose looks like this and don't mix A and D etc.
Papewaio
03-20-2006, 11:37
I have the same problem with Greenpeace... they have an agenda and will warp the facts to suit them... or make them up...
Hyperbole and emotions, do not an effective arguement, make.
rory_20_uk
03-20-2006, 11:50
Balanced messages, such as legalising the softer drugs and coming down hard on the worse ones with evidence not "facts" that are porous after 10 seconds of thought might work.
"Gee, that gal did pull all her own teeth out! Huh, let's go smoke a joint..."
Most things are OK with moderation (after all, one can OD on water). Some substances it is almost impossible to take in moderation though, and in those cases they should be illegal. Providing ready access to substances to help addiction would be useful, such as competetive antagosnists of opioids so that even taking the stuff doesn't cause a high.
~:smoking:
Herion addiction in this country has a raft of associated problems almost entirely caused by illegality.
Theft for drugs caused by high prices from illegality
Infections from poor hygeine, dirty equipment
overdoses from mixed strength street drugs
Hep and AIDS epidemics caused by ignorance and lack of clean equipment.
Herion itself, whilst very addictive, is not generally that harmful. You could inject yourself twice a day with a reasonable dose using sterile equipment and pharm grade stuff and probably not suffer any herion related diseases or complications for 20 years.
rory_20_uk
03-20-2006, 12:39
And in hospitals we do, often more than twice a day.
~:smoking:
doc_bean
03-20-2006, 13:26
moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.
He just quit, he had never been a heavy user. He got out of the scene and didn't feel the need to use anymore....
And in hospitals we do, often more than twice a day.
~:smoking:
Although doctors addicted to opiates is not as common as doctors addicted to strange barbs or tranqs.
I used to work in the General Medical Council in the section that dealt with all the addict doctors. They always seem to go for relatively obscure pills too.
_Martyr_
03-20-2006, 14:18
Yeah, I heard that Psychiatrists have the highest rate of adiction in any profession. Not surprising really.:book:
Kanamori
03-20-2006, 16:45
You could inject yourself twice a day with a reasonable dose using sterile equipment and pharm grade stuff and probably not suffer any herion related diseases or complications for 20 years.
The problem with continuous usage of Heroin is two-fold in my mind. One: injecting often can lead collapsed veins and all sorts of other nastiness, not to mention unsightly pin-prick marks around the veins that cause irritation. And two: using often builds resistence to the drug, requiring more and more to get the same 'rush'.
moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.
This is quite wrong, although I cannot comment on meth. With any drug, there are different effects with different dosages. The problem is that finding the outter edge effects of more dangerous drugs leads to death more easily than with alcohol. Still, alcohol is much worse than many of the drugs which are regulated/banned. When you smoke yourself silly, you don't wake up the next morning with your body half dead from poison. Not to mention that many, many other drugs don't harm the body nearly as much as alcohol.
Being high, no. Losing your self-control as a result of that high, yes.
Not that scare tactics work anyway. People know they're not going to catch anything, it only happens to others.
...The only time pot will make you lose self-control is when you fall asleep from too much.
Although doctors addicted to opiates is not as common as doctors addicted to strange barbs or tranqs.
Which is especially odd to me given that they ought to know how much more dangerous barbituate addiction can be than opiod addiction. The physical withdraw symptoms are quite painful, by all accounts, and with worse addiction, quitting cold-turkey can kill you.
master of the puppets
03-20-2006, 17:27
i know a guy who is addicted to heroin, for his anonominity(sp?) we shall refer to his as dickhead (thats how i refer to him anyway). lately he just stole 750 dollars from my one freinds, he was missing for 2 days and came back without 500 dollars worth. he has several warrants out and once stole a car. he owes just about every person he knows money and is ran from the police and then missed his trial date, me and my freind were planning to beat his face in if he does'nt pay back the money to my freind and if he does...we are calling the police so his dumbarse can go to jail.
moral of the story, some times you don't have to be high to have drugs f*** you up.
moral of the story, some times you don't have to be high to have drugs f*** you up.
That's the real problem with drug abuse in any case.
Ianofsmeg16
03-20-2006, 21:07
You can get AIDS by masturbating without a condom and we all know that getting high makes you hungry which in turn makes you very horny.
I dunno if you were joking or not BP, but that isnt true :2thumbsup:
A.Saturnus
03-20-2006, 22:30
Yeah, I heard that Psychiatrists have the highest rate of adiction in any profession. Not surprising really.:book:
Well, I read it's catholic priests. Psychatrists have the highest rate of burn-out though.
Big King Sanctaphrax
03-20-2006, 22:48
The way I see it, legalising the vast majority of drugs would solve a massive number of problems. You could tax their sale, making a large amount of revenue, and the removal of the stigma that comes with things being illegal would make it far easier for addicts to access the help they need. Furthermore, you'd instantly get rid of the illegal trade, which provides the finance for all sorts of organised crime nastiness-and this is all completely aside from the fact that it's my body, and I should be able to put whatever I damn want in it.
Kaiser of Arabia
03-20-2006, 22:50
Alcohol and Cigars = Good
All else = Satan.
And that's a fact.
This message has been approved by the Kaiser party of Kaiserland, LTD
Kanamori
03-20-2006, 23:16
The way I see it, legalising the vast majority of drugs would solve a massive number of problems. You could tax their sale, making a large amount of revenue, and the removal of the stigma that comes with things being illegal would make it far easier for addicts to access the help they need. Furthermore, you'd instantly get rid of the illegal trade, which provides the finance for all sorts of organised crime nastiness-and this is all completely aside from the fact that it's my body, and I should be able to put whatever I damn want in it.
Exactly. When people list most of the harms of drugs, they are really just due to the illegality. Plus, I don't understand the fetish that some have for limiting personal freedoms when they claim to be all for freedom and all for less government.
Reenk Roink
03-20-2006, 23:57
Alcohol and Cigars = Good
All else = Satan.
And that's a fact.
This message has been approved by the Kaiser party of Kaiserland, LTD
What? :huh:
Crazed Rabbit
03-21-2006, 05:46
There's a freedom hater! Get him!
Seriously, the commercials I hate are the ones were they show some claymation people eating, variously, roaches/sewage/etc. and then making out and saying 'it's just like smoking'. NO IT IS NOT, (#)$&^*$ IT! Makes we want to smoke a carton just to piss them off.
Crazed Rabbit
Vladimir
03-21-2006, 16:23
I personally love the nationalistic commercials that link marijuana use to supporting terrorism, I don't see them as frequently but they are still around. An insult to the publics intelligence and it undermines the war on terror. the DEA and washington is full of s*** for not distinguishing between narcotics and things like pot and hash, and it only reinforces my opinion that the baby boomers of america are some of the biggest f***** sell outs in history, and it proves that old, out of touch men still run this country and that the prison system is, in fact, a political tool.
In Oklahoma having as little as a dime bag and "paraphenillia" is grounds to have 7 different charges brought against you, including charges that mean you lose your home and everything in it if you are convicted. The war on drugs is a business, and seizures of assets can make up to 20% of a sheriff departments operating budget. Cops, washington, and every privatized corrections company can lick my butthole
Smoking Marijuana doesn't support terrorism, buying it does. Black market money whether it comes from cigarettes or crack is making its way to terrorists. I thought someone who comes from a town that’s recently been closely linked to terrorist activity would understand this. That’s one way they get funding.
Kanamori
03-21-2006, 18:01
I don't think you've never heard of 'BC Buds', 'nederwiet', or the famous pot from northern california that is the best around... in fact it is only the schwag that is sold by shadey characters to high school kids.
rory_20_uk
03-21-2006, 18:26
As long as the goverment refuses to legalise drugs they are indirectly responsible for terrorists gaining money from these sources.
~:smoking:
Byzantine Prince
03-21-2006, 18:40
I don't think too much weed is grown by terrorists. :laugh4:
:idea2: Does some one know if some country ever trying presenting facts about drug using in stead of false, dishonest and disingenous arguing?
There is still enough bad thing about (most) drug using to keep you away, and they could get no loss of respect like they do for lying.
As long as the goverment refuses to legalise drugs they are indirectly responsible for terrorists gaining money from these sources.
~:smoking:
Booyaka. As if pot money is really going to terrorists, though...it's not. That's the most preposterous thing I've ever heard.
Big King Sanctaphrax
03-21-2006, 22:28
So let me get this straight...fundamentalist Muslim terrorists are financing their activities through the sale of narcotics now?
Seeing as those chaps have a problem with mere alcohol, this seems unlikely.
rory_20_uk
03-21-2006, 22:39
Initially they were going to get their funding from selling copies of the Quran and full length back all over dresses. Sadly the bottom fell out of that market so they've taken up breaking their own laws to kill others - shocking breakdown in ideals I know.
Gorebag I don't think that pot money in the main is going to fund the next 9/11. Some narcotic money - probably. To stop this, legalising is the only way that is going to work, as wished for by 51% of Canadians.
~:smoking:
Big King Sanctaphrax
03-21-2006, 22:47
Ah, so the terrorists are hypocrites. I'm glad you cleared that up.
Ah, so the terrorists are hypocrites. I'm glad you cleared that up.
You do know that the main export of Afghanistan is the poppy, which is used to make opiates, right?
Rory, I totally agree with you; legalising all drugs would be a great way to fix a number of problems. Never heard about this 51% of Canadians bit..maybe we should push for it.
So opium, heroin = pot?
Damn... I never knew I smoked opium.
So opium, heroin = pot?
Are you asking me for confirmation?
Of course not... This part of the discussion stemmed from the statement that buying weed, pot, grass ect ect. would be helping terrorists. So from there to the poppyseeds from Afghanistan is a fairly long way.
Damn... I never knew I smoked opium.
That is showing what drugs will do to brains!:laugh4:
(I never knew this also ~:smoking: )
You do know that the main export of Afghanistan is the poppy, which is used to make opiates, right?
Quick Quiz
And which political group almost wiped out poppy production in Afghanistan?
Which faction used poppy production to fund their military campaign?
What has happened to poppy production since the fall of the taliban?
:dizzy2: The answers aren't ones that are going to fill many presidential speeches that's for sure.
Vladimir
03-22-2006, 16:23
Are some of you people actually surprised that extremist Muslims use the black market to supplement funding? They intentionally target people based on where they were born; they think it’s OK to rape Swedish girls because they’re all whores anyway; they’ll saw your head off with a kitchen knife… Ya, I think they’re capable of it.
Go and have a trawl through the archive for stories of european jewry in the 1920s and 30s. You'll find some of the themes of barbarism, rape of innocent white women, cultural decline and defence of western civilisation are common. Same story, different actors.
master of the puppets
03-22-2006, 17:25
legalize pot and tax the hell out of it if it makes you feel better.
crack and cocain comes from south american, our money goes to south america, terrorists (mabey not muslim ones) live in south america, money to carribian terrorists, more drugs, more degredation. so yes...some of it does go to terrorists.
Crazed Rabbit
03-22-2006, 18:06
You'll find some of the themes of barbarism, rape of innocent white women, cultural decline and defence of western civilisation are common. Same story, different actors.
Ya, the only difference is a little thing I like to call 'truth'.
Crazed Rabbit
Too bad that made no sense.
I was watching the telly and saw a commerical that went along these lines.
She got high
She got AIDS
How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS :no:
It`s just a modification of the truth. Many drug takers are HIV/AIDS infected because they used somebody elses needles.
Reenk Roink
03-22-2006, 23:32
Too bad that made no sense.
:laugh3:
Plus it was "lies" or "denial"...
Kaiser of Arabia
03-23-2006, 01:51
And which political group almost wiped out poppy production in Afghanistan?
Taliban!
Which faction used poppy production to fund their military campaign?
Them Anti-Taliban dudes
What has happened to poppy production since the fall of the taliban?
Upity up!
Do I win?
master of the puppets
03-23-2006, 20:58
Do I win?
...yep:2thumbsup:.
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