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Lookin for new ideas and strategies. Post a screenshot of your best, favorite, worst or any campaign you got.
Avicenna
03-23-2006, 08:40
DL'ed my first mod today (RTR 6 Gold) and I've got to say the Roman campaign is awesome. A bit too easy though.. on hard I'm winning while fighting the Gauls, Carthaginians and Illyria at the same time.
DL'ed my first mod today (RTR 6 Gold) and I've got to say the Roman campaign is awesome. A bit too easy though.. on hard I'm winning while fighting the Gauls, Carthaginians and Illyria at the same time.
I tried downloading RTR the other day and whenever I tried to play the water would always turn black on the campaign map after a little while. Anyway, yea the game really isnt very challenging on hard, the only thing i find to be slightly difficult was rebel armies attacking my cities over and over again, which really, for me, didnt add difficulty but preoccupation to the game.
Avicenna
03-23-2006, 14:38
I found a way past that. When it goes black, press esc and adjust your effects detail in the video options. It loads a short bit and it's fine again.
Awesome, I'll give it a try.
I just figured out the whole screenshot thing, I think, so here's my latest campaign.
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8707/julii8ge.th.jpg (https://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii8ge.jpg)
https://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7991/julii29ak.th.jpg (https://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii29ak.jpg)
https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1393/julii38rb.th.jpg (https://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii38rb.jpg)
Garvanko
03-23-2006, 19:47
Wow, you have an army in Britain already! And the Gauls actually took Ebaracum and Londinium!!
That's new..
What difficulty are you playing?
No, the gauls never took britain, i gave it to them immediately after i took it, once i was sure britannia would not become my protectorate.
instead of taking lands and holding them i like to gain a protectorate and give all my acquired lands to them, because they still count asy settlements and, i feel, it makes a lot easier to manage your army.
Garvanko
03-23-2006, 21:04
Good move. Its a big commitment sending your amry all the way round, though.
And Gaul will stab you in the back later. Its almost hard-coded. :book:
I've never had problems with protectorates going back on their word except when i make a demand of them. Anyway, where are the screenshots.:inquisitive:
oh, and usually the game ends beofre they have a chance to fully recover from when i attacked them in the beginning, but i did notice in this campaign they've built their forces up pretty quick. I think they have like 3 full armies and its been probably 4-5 years since they have surrendered. I had a campaign earlier that i had to delete where i had germania, britannia, spain, macedon, and carthage as protectorates, carthage was the last faction i subdued then i became imperator, and i only physically owned 14 settlements. probably the most interesting campaign i've had.
Garvanko
03-23-2006, 22:21
Patience!~:)
My Julii campaign. Trying to conquer the world. So far, have just taken Campus Scythii from the Brutii. I'll give them a break now, and they'll give me a buffer zone from the Armenians.
I am now focusing my efforts on Africa. My faction leader is taking the rest of North Africa before I retire him at Dimmidi. Then I'll push on towards the Ptolemics. Im looking at a three-pronged strategy, but first I must have Rhodes.
Its been fun so far. Never gone this far into RTW, though.
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1210/juliicampaign1ib.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=juliicampaign1ib.jpg)
Garvanko
03-24-2006, 12:21
Can't believe it. Ive just had two uber-General's assassinated at Campus Scythii, on successive turns!! Arrghh!
Nice campaign
Can't believe it. Ive just had two uber-General's assassinated at Campus Scythii, on successive turns!! Arrghh!
do you keep any spies or assassins in your settlements. a spy will usally spot the assassin before they complete their mission and if they dont the assassin will, most of the time, stop the assassination.
Garvanko
03-24-2006, 13:23
I had an assassin there, but he was rubbish. So after the first General got sliced, I started training three spies (strength in numbers, et al), but the second one got killed on the next turn. Unbelievable.
I think Im safe for now, as the Governor now has a Counter-Spy trait. Im also fighting back with my spies and assassins, though I had to learn the hard way. I really needed those two other General's for my impending war on Egypt. They were both under 40. The Gods know best, I suppose.
I now have 3 protectorates in my current campaign. Dacia surrendered before i even attacked them. I was gonna try and annex numidia but the scipii beat me to the punch. i think im gonna go after macedon now, they have good amount of settlements and if i do gain them as a protectorate the brutii will be completely surrounded by my allies and will have no where to expand.
Garvanko
03-24-2006, 15:10
What difficulty rating are you playing, Telys? Three protectorates? I haven't had one in months!
My Julii campaign is entering the final major phase - The invasion of Egypt.
https://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7522/invasionofegypt8yr.th.jpg (https://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasionofegypt8yr.jpg)
As you can see I have simultaneously attacked with eight major armies, three of them commanded by General's. Ive just taken Nicomedia at the top. Starting to have problems with public order at Bylazora and Thessalonica, so Im shifting my givernors around a bit at the moment.
i usually play on medium because rebel armies annoy the hell at of me on hard and very hard, everytime i kill one another pops up and attacks a city, very annoying and time consuming.
macedon gave up
https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8161/julii4dx.th.jpg (https://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii4dx.jpg)
the mighty manius
https://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2197/julii31ur.th.jpg (https://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii31ur.jpg)
What difficulty rating are you playing, Telys? Three protectorates? I haven't had one in months!
My Julii campaign is entering the final major phase - The invasion of Egypt.
https://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7522/invasionofegypt8yr.th.jpg (https://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasionofegypt8yr.jpg)
As you can see I have simultaneously attacked with eight major armies, three of them commanded by General's. Ive just taken Nicomedia at the top. Starting to have problems with public order at Bylazora and Thessalonica, so Im shifting my givernors around a bit at the moment.
All out assault on asia minor, nice. the best generals to counteract rioting are ones with the most influence, even if they cant managing skill at all.
Garvanko
03-24-2006, 16:24
macedon gave up
https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8161/julii4dx.th.jpg (https://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii4dx.jpg)
Impressive.:bow: 154k profit from 4 protectorates. :book:
I play Hard/Hard.. Rebels don't seem to cause much of a problem. They even asked me for a cease-fire once.
I had reinstall rtw so im just trying to beat the game real quick to unlock the other factions. now that i think of it ive tried olaying game hard like once or twice and(i felt) there wasnt to big of a difference so just i went back to medium. damnit, me and you are the only ones posting are campaigns.
I had reinstall rtw so im just trying to beat the game real quick to unlock the other factions. now that i think of it ive tried olaying game hard like once or twice and(i felt) there wasnt to big of a difference so just i went back to medium. damnit, me and you are the only ones posting are campaigns.
olaying=playing
i keep makin mistakes in my threads and posting them before i look at them so bare with me.
Garvanko
03-24-2006, 17:16
I had reinstall rtw so im just trying to beat the game real quick to unlock the other factions. .
You can unlock them by editing the descr_stat file in the RTW/Data/world/maps/campaign/Imperial campaign folder..
Taking Pergamum.
A great shot of the final engagement at the City square, as reinforcements march in.
https://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6454/takingpergamum0ur.th.jpg (https://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takingpergamum0ur.jpg)
As one would expect, it takes a while to take a Huge city with epic walls, even when poorly defended.
Severous
03-24-2006, 21:24
The best campaign should be celebrated.
https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8606/brutii264s35wz.th.jpg (https://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii264s35wz.jpg)
Troops dont fight hand to hand until they have to. Missiles all used prior to the melee with the gallant Macedonian defenders.
[QUOTE=Garvanko]You can unlock them by editing the descr_stat file in the RTW/Data/world/maps/campaign/Imperial campaign folder..QUOTE]
yea i know, i just felt like unlocking the factions the old fashion way.
Severous, thats a mighty small army with only two infantry units, one of them being town watch, nice job.
I totally just must up that quote. Hey severous put up a shot of your campaign if you could. Im tryin to see what other people do in their campaigns, I must say it's not working to good so far, only garvanko has posted one so far, which was a pretty good looking campaign if i say so myself.
Garvanko
03-25-2006, 00:32
https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8606/brutii264s35wz.th.jpg (https://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii264s35wz.jpg)
Troops dont fight hand to hand until they have to. Missiles all used prior to the melee with the gallant Macedonian defenders.Well considering you only had town watch and a unit of hastati, you didn't have much choice! :2thumbsup: What was the enemy's strength like?
Need to see some more screenshots, people!
Severous
03-25-2006, 00:56
Hi Telys
Heres my campaign.
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5091/brutii259s57ff.th.jpg (https://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii259s57ff.jpg)
RTW V1.5 No Mods. Difficulty H/H Large unit scale (Peasant=120men)
Its my second ever campaign and I am Brutii as you can see. (First campaign was as Julii.)
My overall aim is to capture lands and fight enemies I havnt fought before. To this end the strategic plan is to strike north into Russia, sweep east capturing all the top right corner of the known world. Then south through Perthia. Pontus should then fall from attacks from east and west as Turkey is captured. This should bring two powerful Brutii armies together to take on the factions in the middle east. Maybe even a sweep down into the Egyptian corner and then across Africa in order to bring Brutii main armies closer to Rome for the final showdown.
At the point in the screenshot:
Ive captured as far west as I want to go. Ive got to figure how to contain Gaul and Germany so I can concentrate on my main plan in the north and east.
Ive avoided attacking Gaul. They attacked Salona a while back and I crushed that. For peace my diplomat negotiated one of the Gaul regions as payment to me. I inherited a big peasant garrison. I next had fun fighting some local rebels with just peasants and town watch.
https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8601/brutii259s32dp.th.jpg (https://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii259s32dp.jpg)
Neutral with Gaul and Germany (who are allied to each other). I dont want to attack them and sully my good reputation. Im offering tempting targets so they attack me. I want the gaul out of my lands and hope they will go without a fight or be smashed if they attack me. Then will work out how to place two forts in the eastern Alps to stop Gaul incursions. With garrison troops in Segestica and that town further north I then plan to reduce military forces here in my 'west'.
Elsewhere:
- Forces beseige the Sythian captial. Expect a big battle over turn end as the Sythian faction leader and a 60% stack come to relieve the their capital. Will be my first big fight with lots of Sythian forces.
-A few rebels to mop up in my northern lands. Will deal with them as three armies march north into Russia where I believe I will find only rebels.
-Naval forces to establish control over the Black Sea. They control the waters near my lands.
- Fortify island captures of Rhodes and Crete.
- Need to grow my cash. Didnt expect to be poor as Brutti. Only built 6 units this turn..my lowest number for years.
- Continue diplomat charm.
.....-Just spent 35k on a Gaul Leader Bribe
.....-Just spent 13k to disband a Pontus army besiging a Selicud city.
.....-Diplomats to preserve a balance of power in the east
As for the earlier image, with the soldiers celebrating, that was the fall of Bylazora and elimination of the Macedon faction. 471 Brutii Vs. 517 Macedon with odds of 2:1 in my favour. Macedon had 5 Militia Hoplites and two light lancers plus general. Tactical use of all missiles meant I lost just 52 Romans to those spears. I spared the city so it would be a trading destination for the slaves resource from the neighbouring states.
https://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4153/brutii264s29ow.th.jpg (https://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii264s29ow.jpg)
This is an older pic from my current game as Spain:
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6245/spaincamp8ad.th.jpg (https://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spaincamp8ad.jpg)
I'm about 15 years further now. I eventually lost Patavium but I have conquered all of Britain and Sicily and am quickly slicing up the Germans. I also have Tarentum, Croton, and Thapsus. The Julii only have one settlement left, but the Brutii are still sending tons of armies into northern Italy. The scipii have Capua and two cities in Africa.
Strangely, in the east, Pontus has become the superpower. Egypt only has Salamis and Cyrene left, so I've been helping them with money. I plan on taking Kydonia and Rhodes and giving them to Egypt.
I'll try to get some more, newer pics up soon.
Garvanko
03-25-2006, 10:26
That looks like a fantastic campaign, Neco. Ive always liked Spain largely for their temple bonuses and good infantry selection. You've gone further than I ever had though.
Looking forward to seeing the latest screenshots.
Good stuff neco, severous. Ive never tried playing as spain. It's always bothered me that they have no archers, just slingers.
S.P.Q.R. became my protectorate but remained neutral, very weird.
https://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4906/julii2gz.th.jpg (https://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii2gz.jpg)
Diurpaneus
03-25-2006, 22:05
WOW!~:eek: How those gauls conquered Britannia ??? I never saw something like this.Can u give more informations ?
I actually conquered britain and then gave it to gaul so I didnt have to stay there and the territories would still count as mine. The weird thing is they have still yet to put a single unit in any of those settlements, and they still own them. I'm surprised they havent revolted, but i guess they have no need to cause britannia is dead or something like that.
Garvanko
03-26-2006, 01:50
The weird thing is they have still yet to put a single unit in any of those settlements, and they still own them.Thats just the AI cheating.
Im still intrigued by your strategy. What did you offer for those protectorates?
Most of the weaker factions will just give up after most of their army has been defeated and I've taken a few of their settlements, sometimes it takes alittle bit of money too. The stronger factions take lots and lots of money and sometimes land, it took 300,000 to get spqr and one time i spent 1,000,000 denari to get carthage, but I had alot of cash reserves from other protectorates, and I only paid that much because I didnt really feel like fighting them.
Finally beat it, again.
https://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4882/julii32xo.th.jpg (https://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii32xo.jpg)
100,000 denari and four settlements bought pontus
https://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6614/julii25vh.th.jpg (https://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii25vh.jpg)
The brutii kept attacking dacia cancelling my alliance, almost messed up my campaign.
https://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9333/julii7sd.th.jpg (https://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii7sd.jpg)
Wow! That's pretty cool! Are you going to try to get the rest of the factions in the game to become you protectorate? I might try that strategy sometime.
Here are some new screens from my Spain game:
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8132/00225ib.th.jpg (https://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00225ib.jpg)
My faction heir
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9243/00230re.th.jpg (https://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00230re.jpg)
As you can see, the Brutii are still throwing armies at me, but I plan to cripple them by sending a force into poorly defended Greece and taking their richest cities.
I hope you noticed the east, where Pontus has taken control. Well, the Romans are at war with them, but have left their eastern border completely unprotected. Hopefully Pontus will attack them and cause a distraction and give me a break for a while.
Garvanko
03-26-2006, 11:30
Neco, those Brutii stacks will never stop coming, but your strategy for attacking Greece is sound. I used the same for dealing with them in my Julii campaign.
Have you managed to isolate the SPQR armies? I'd send about seven spies into Rome, so that when you do attack, attack when those stacks are far enough away so as not to be able to interfere. Your spies should have a 100% plus chance of opening the gates.
Telys: Congratulations. Still flummoxed by your impressive strategy of gunboat diplomacy. Ave!
Wow! That's pretty cool! Are you going to try to get the rest of the factions in the game to become you protectorate? I might try that strategy sometime.
I would, but I am limited to who I can attack due to the alliances of my protectorates. If I attack one of their allies they will immediately cancel their alliance to me, which I think is stupid. That's the only reason germania is still independent, I can't afford to lose gaul who are allies with them.
Telys: Congratulations. Still flummoxed by your impressive strategy of gunboat diplomacy. Ave!
Thank you Garvanko
My latest campaign as The Greek Cities on hard. Macedon gave up after two turns, one settlement and 10,000 denarii, and if you're wondering how i got the money so quickly, I sold a whole bunch of map information.
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8858/greekcities6hg.th.jpg (https://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greekcities6hg.jpg)
Neco, those Brutii stacks will never stop coming, but your strategy for attacking Greece is sound. I used the same for dealing with them in my Julii campaign.
Have you managed to isolate the SPQR armies? I'd send about seven spies into Rome, so that when you do attack, attack when those stacks are far enough away so as not to be able to interfere. Your spies should have a 100% plus chance of opening the gates.
I still need to take Capua to have Rome surrounded. Should I try to take Rome before I hop over to Greece, or should I try to cripple the Brutii as fast as possible?
Telys, that is a brilliant strategy, I'm going to try and use it in my Dacia campaign I just started. But say I get Macedon to be a protectrate, and they are allied to the Brutii, then I can't attack the Brutii? or if the Brutii attack me I lose the protectrate? And last queston for yalls, how much do protectrates pay you a turn? thanks you, Glaucus
Garvanko
03-26-2006, 21:56
Neco..
SPQR (don't expand) and Scipii (too weak) won't attack you. SO you need to consolidate in Northern Italy. The Brutii are basically holding the Roman Empire together and have probably been given senate missions that focus solely on you. You're making enough money, but you need to defend northern Italy and take patavium. Use Sicily to train troops for the fight there. Use Tarentum and Croton to stage an invasion of Greece.
Attacking Greece will, of course, cause a panic all over that green expanse. And it will give you breathing room in Italy.
Some more screenshots of my Julii Campaign..
Invasion moving at a steady pace.
https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/200/invasion2fq.th.jpg (https://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasion2fq.jpg)
Reinforcements!
https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4897/00047cr.th.jpg (https://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00047cr.jpg)
Flanking, campaign-map-style. Sneaking up on Egypt from the blindside!
https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3272/00059mw.th.jpg (https://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00059mw.jpg)
Telys, that is a brilliant strategy, I'm going to try and use it in my Dacia campaign I just started. But say I get Macedon to be a protectrate, and they are allied to the Brutii, then I can't attack the Brutii? or if the Brutii attack me I lose the protectrate? And last queston for yalls, how much do protectrates pay you a turn? thanks you, Glaucus
Protectorates will only cancel their alliance if you attack one their allies or try and demand something of them. If one of their allies attacks you I'm pretty sure they cancel their alliance with them or atleast thats how it has always played out for me. Now for your second question it all depends on the size of the protectorate, for example macedon in my latest campaign has three settlements a pays me around 1200 denari each turn. Also if you look under the financial tab at tributes/diplomacy it'll show how much money you gained that turn from all your protectorates and any money transactions with other factions.
Some more screenshots of my Julii Campaign..
Invasion moving at a steady pace.
https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/200/invasion2fq.th.jpg (https://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=invasion2fq.jpg)
Reinforcements!
https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4897/00047cr.th.jpg (https://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00047cr.jpg)
Flanking, campaign-map-style. Sneaking up on Egypt from the blindside!
https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3272/00059mw.th.jpg (https://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00059mw.jpg)
Are you gonna keep going until you conquer the whole world?
Garvanko
03-27-2006, 01:34
Are you gonna keep going until you conquer the whole world?
Thats my plan, though Im not sure I can hold the empire together.:book:
At the very least I want to take all of Egypts main economic centres - thats means Alexandria, Thebes, Memphis, Antioch, Jerusalem, Tarsus, Sidon etc.. I doubt I'll go deeper into Persia than Hatra.
Someone has done it before with the Julii, though, so its possible.
May have to use diplomacy for the final provinces.
Avicenna
03-27-2006, 08:49
Update: finished my campaign now, with 42 provinces and Greek cities as a protectorate. I have all the African-Carthaginian provinces that have access to the sea, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, some little island under Sicily, the whole of Italy, a small foothold in Eastern Spain and in South-Eastern Gaul. I own half of Greece and practically control it (one large-ish army about to take the last Ptolemaic settlement in Greece and two surrounding Corinth, and the rest belonging to the Greeks). Greece also have Crete, and the Macedonians will be dead soon.
In the last few turns I suddenly got a few surprises: new adopted characters, all in their 20s and having at least 3 command stars! Funny thing is one 25 year old got adopted by a 21 year old, who in turn was adopted by a 29 year old. Imagine having a daddy younger than you.
Thats my plan, though Im not sure I can hold the empire together.:book:
At the very least I want to take all of Egypts main economic centres - thats means Alexandria, Thebes, Memphis, Antioch, Jerusalem, Tarsus, Sidon etc.. I doubt I'll go deeper into Persia than Hatra.
Someone has done it before with the Julii, though, so its possible.
May have to use diplomacy for the final provinces.
Yea I tried it once as the brutii, I had everything except spain and britannia then after two turns I lost all my money and couldn't expand any further cause all my armies were tied up in syria subduing revolts.
Update: finished my campaign now, with 42 provinces and Greek cities as a protectorate. I have all the African-Carthaginian provinces that have access to the sea, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, some little island under Sicily, the whole of Italy, a small foothold in Eastern Spain and in South-Eastern Gaul. I own half of Greece and practically control it (one large-ish army about to take the last Ptolemaic settlement in Greece and two surrounding Corinth, and the rest belonging to the Greeks). Greece also have Crete, and the Macedonians will be dead soon.
I've tried so many times to get the greeks to be my protectorate and never could. What did you offer them?
Campaign update:Well the romans are a lot easier to fight than i thought they would be, but I'm having trouble taking lilybaeum from carthage, mostly due to the lack calvary training facilities in sicily, any suggestions on how to take lilybaeum with mostly just infantry and some missle support.
Garvanko
03-27-2006, 16:45
I assume you are up against stone walls.
The choice is between sapping or towers. I would sap, then fight on the ground with your hoplites.
Well my problem is every time I attempt a siege carthage brings a full army from the mainland for relief, and while I'm defending against the relief army and the army that is in the settlement my flanks always end up getting overrun by their calvary, but I have taken more lands and have built more training facilities so hopefully I'll be able to counteract their calvary with my own.
The battle for capua.
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9241/greekcities4wo.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greekcities4wo.jpg)
The julii didn't even demand anything, they just gave up.
https://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8144/greeks9da.th.jpg (https://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks9da.jpg)
Now for your second question it all depends on the size of the protectorate, for example macedon in my latest campaign has three settlements a pays me around 1200 denari each turn. Also if you look under the financial tab at tributes/diplomacy it'll show how much money you gained that turn from all your protectorates and any money transactions with other factions.
So that bit where you gave gaul the british isles, you'd get more money from them each turn since they have more places and thus more revenue. So theres another bonus to giving your protectrates their land back.
NodachiSam
03-28-2006, 04:33
Great thread guys, I enjoy reading it alot!
Exactly, but remember the AI is not always consistent and sometimes does some weird things that wont make any sense like build massive armies, when having no money and no where to expand, causing more army upkeep which will cause them to give you less money. The best way to get around this is to keep giving them lands, but make sure that it borders their territories or else they will not occupy it, and if the territories are on an island they will not send a garrison there nor will they recruit any new units there.
Great thread guys, I enjoy reading it alot!
Much appreciated.
Avicenna
03-28-2006, 07:13
Nothing really. They wanted Tarentum, Croton and Syracuse plus 3.3k. I offered them something like 10-16k and they accepted.
If they take on your forces.. just protect your line of infantry with cavalry on the flanks. If they don't defeat you in 30 mins, ie they don't advance, you win. If they advance, use your infantry to shower them with pila and already rout a unit or two before they arrive. The rest is simple: divide and conquer.
Edit: there's no cavalry to train on sicily, you should just make a massive infantry+italian cavalry army from the mainland and concentrate on the Carthaginians. The Greeks ignore you once you push them off the Italian peninsula, being locked in combat with the Macedonians and Illyrians. Just get trading rights with Gaul and if they're aggressive, attack their lands. In my campaign after they took Arretium and Ariminium they just left a unit in each. Nice and easy.
Garvanko
03-28-2006, 13:45
The Greeks ignore you once you push them off the Italian peninsula, being locked in combat with the Macedonians and Illyrians..
Indeed. After you kick them out of Sicily, send a diplomat and negotiate Ceasefire, trade and an Alliance. They will accept.
At least then they won't mess around with your fleet.
Edit: Im thinking of starting a campaign with Macedon. Im itching to try my hand at phalanx warfare once more.
I finally got carthage out of sicily. I just kept letting them attack messana until they had no army left to protect lilybaeum, sadly they still refused to become my protectorate so I settled for a loose alliance. Now my focus has been turned to macedon and gaul. Macedon would be my protectorate if the julii would ever stop declaring war on them, but life isnt perfect so I had to choose between the julii or macedon to keep as a protectorate, the julii generate more income for me so I decided to keep them and just take the rest of greece.
same here, I'm thinking my next is going to be Selucid Empire or however you spell it. Hammer and Anvil coming at ya. Telys - the gauls wont even move onto britain, since its an island? strange indeed. Those damn brits (no offense to any english present) will never stay content no matter how low the tax rate is or how big the garrison. And the gauls keep it with no garrison at all!? Anyway, another question. say you have a history of making war with people you have trade rights with, will that affect faction's desicions to become protectorates. Or if you have a history of turning on allies. or on your own protectorates. any thoughts on this much appreciated, though I doubt anyone would have the time to test it.
same here, I'm thinking my next is going to be Selucid Empire or however you spell it. Hammer and Anvil coming at ya. Telys - the gauls wont even move onto britain, since its an island? strange indeed. Those damn brits (no offense to any english present) will never stay content no matter how low the tax rate is or how big the garrison. And the gauls keep it with no garrison at all!? Anyway, another question. say you have a history of making war with people you have trade rights with, will that affect faction's desicions to become protectorates. Or if you have a history of turning on allies. or on your own protectorates. any thoughts on this much appreciated, though I doubt anyone would have the time to test it.
In my last campaign as the julii I had dacia as a protectorate, but the brutii kept attacking them canceling my alliance, so eventually i just started attacking dacia again and demand they become my protectorate. I did this about three times and each time they accepted my demands, but only when one of my armies was sieging one of their settlements. So what I'm basically saying, from my own experience, is that you can cancel your alliance with a protectorate, attack them, and then demand they become your protectorate
again and most of the time they will accept. Also certain factions are weaker and are more easily pushed around. ie gaul, macedon, seleucids, numidia, and a few others are borderline and could go either way.
Edit: Im thinking of starting a campaign with Macedon. Im itching to try my hand at phalanx warfare once more.
I've played as macedon a few times but I prefer greek hoplites over macedonian pikemen. Eventhough hoplites have shorter spears, I feel, they hold the line longer than pikemen.
Garvanko
03-28-2006, 22:47
That may be true, but Macedon have better Cav for hammer and anvil. I do like Armoured Hoplites, though.
That may be true, but Macedon have better Cav for hammer and anvil. I do like Armoured Hoplites, though.
Yea, The Greek Cities would be a lot better if they had an equivalent to campanion calvary.
I don't have any pics, but my Spain campaign is going well. The brutii attacks are slowing down as I continue to slaughter every army they throw at me. I just recently surpassed them in military ranking, now I'm second only to Pontus.
Just landed a force in Greece and have Corinth and Athens under siege. I could have all of what used to be Greece and Macedon in a only few years. There's no one to stop me!
And I'm going to continue my advance against Germania, because I've been stalled for a few turns due to the brutii diverting most of their forces to look at Mogontiacum (they never even laid siege to it). They're withdrawing now, so everything seems to be going my way!:2thumbsup:
Garvanko
03-29-2006, 20:16
Decided to end my Julii campaign after this happened for the fourth time in succession.
https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6373/00075wn.th.jpg (https://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00075wn.jpg)
An army full of Bowmen, EVERYTIME! How rubbish is that?!
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. In the end I conquered the whole of Europe, most of Asia Minor and Africa. My longest campaign, and probably my best so far. Ended 139BC
As I mentioned earlier, Im picking up Macedon again. Aiming to concentrate on Asia minor and Egypt, while defending Greece from the Brutii with my Greek and Thracian allies.
Decided to end my Julii campaign after this happened for the fourth time in succession.
https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6373/00075wn.th.jpg (https://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00075wn.jpg)
An army full of Bowmen, EVERYTIME! How rubbish is that?!
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted. In the end I conquered the whole of Europe, most of Asia Minor and Africa. My longest campaign, and probably my best so far. Ended 139BC
As I mentioned earlier, Im picking up Macedon again. Aiming to concentrate on Asia minor and Egypt, while defending Greece from the Brutii with my Greek and Thracian allies.
My longest campaign ended in 70 BC as the greeks I only held kydonia and rhodes, I had abandoned the rest of my settlements just to see if I could, and the only reason I stopped playing is that it crashed to desktop when I tried to end the turn. I'm not sure why it did that so I just reinstalled the game and lost my favorite campaign, not my best, but definetely my favorite.
Also certain factions are weaker and are more easily pushed around. ie gaul, macedon, seleucids, numidia, and a few others are borderline and could go either way.
ahhh that would explain why I can't get egypt to become my protectrates even though all they have are the three nile settlements in my Seleucid campaign. and finally, i heard that if you demand a faction become your protectrate, and they say no, it will be harder to get them to be in future. thanks, Glaucus
ahhh that would explain why I can't get egypt to become my protectrates even though all they have are the three nile settlements in my Seleucid campaign. and finally, i heard that if you demand a faction become your protectrate, and they say no, it will be harder to get them to be in future. thanks, Glaucus
What I do is declare war and demand they become my protectorate, usually they will say no a few times but as long you continue to attack and demand they will give in, but you do not want to take the majority of their settlements, only one or two, otherwise they will never say yes. Oh, and factions will usually not give in until their military is weaker than yours or are no longer able to protect themselves.
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1180/greeks2zv.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks2zv.jpg)
It seems factions are giving up easier on hard, or atleast that's how it seems in this campaign.
Severous
03-29-2006, 22:59
More Protectorates Telys. !
You have a way with them thats for sure. Ive not seen so many anywhere else..and Julii as a protectorate of Greece. :dizzy2:
Ive nothing so grand.
Im meant to be going east. I want to meet eastern factions for the first time since I purchased the game last December. Instead the senate is taking me west. Like a good Roman Im following all senate orders.(amongst other things)
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2110/brutii257s13ts.th.jpg (https://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii257s13ts.jpg)
First Patvium had to be blockaded. Mission after that was capture Patvium. Then capture Mediolanum and now Massila. Im planning on holding Patvium...but looting all towns captured west of there. Mediolanum has been exterminated and the soldiers have upgraded their weapons from the blacksmith. Will demolish all I can and rack up taxes in Mediolanum before I leave for Massila. This may leave rebels, Gaul and Julii to fight over the town. Who knows...I might get another senate mission to capture it back again.
Garvanko
03-29-2006, 23:28
It seems factions are giving up easier on hard, or atleast that's how it seems in this campaign.Unbelievable. I play on Hard, and I haven't got one in god knows how many games. I simply gave up trying after a while.
Give us the the full breakdown, please. How do you do it?
I'm more curious as to how Severous has conquered so many cities in a mere 13 years. He seems to be taking several cities per turn. How?
Avicenna
03-30-2006, 03:01
Indeed. After you kick them out of Sicily, send a diplomat and negotiate Ceasefire, trade and an Alliance. They will accept.
At least then they won't mess around with your fleet.
Edit: Im thinking of starting a campaign with Macedon. Im itching to try my hand at phalanx warfare once more.
I was talking about RTR :P
Once you knock them out of Tarentum and Croton and destroy Pyrrhus' force, they don't bother you. They usually fight with Carthage on Sicily while you secure Italy.
Unbelievable. I play on Hard, and I haven't got one in god knows how many games. I simply gave up trying after a while.
Give us the the full breakdown, please. How do you do it?
All I do is begin a war with any faction and immediately demand they become my protectorate, sometimes I offer money but it doesn't really matter because they will most definetely say no unless I offer some outrageous amount of money that I don't have. After that I'll take one to two settlements depending on the size of the faction, drawing these sieges out as long as possible so they waste the majority of their military trying to push me out. Then I demand again, I usually offer nothing in return as most factions will counter offer for money when ready, but on occasion I'll offer my entire treasury just to see if they'll accept. If they still say no I'll take all my armies, put them in a couple of the enemy provinces and leave them there. I then demand once again, if at this point they do not counter offer I will offer different amounts of money and settlements in return. If they still do not accept, depending on their size, I will take multiple settlements at one time demanding they give up every turn. That is one thing I never forget to do every turn from the declaration from of war, demand protectorate. Few factions refuse past this point. Also, in two cases, I offered protectorate right after I loaded a saved game and they accepted, carthage for nothing and the julii for like 20,000. This may of been a bug in the game but hey, if it work it works. I also should add that in the case with the julii I never technically fought them. I kicked the brutii out of epirus and, of course, went to war with all the romans. Wiped out the scipii and the brutii, had a few sea battles with the julii, and destoyed nearly all the senates army. After a little bit I stopped playing, saved, came back, loaded and immediately demanded protectorate of the julii and to my surprise they made a counter offer for money. I also went to war with them once more in order to take rome and they accepted terms again.
Edit: Any faction will become your protectorate for 1,000,000 denari.
Garvanko
03-30-2006, 10:18
Ahh, a save-load bug. I can understand that one. You patched to v1.5? I'll keep the rest of what you say in mind and try it out in my campaign.
I'm more curious as to how Severous has conquered so many cities in a mere 13 years. He seems to be taking several cities per turn. How?
It just doesn't seem possible especially with the amount of denarii you start off with. And you'd need to attack without facing resistance. Unless he's playing without movement points..
Severous
03-30-2006, 20:20
Hi
That Brutii campaign is my 2nd Imperial campaign. I started on 19th February and I have played a bit most days since then.
I recorded every number I could see for the first ten years of the game. All the battles, all the settlement details including trade, all the traits, retinues and financial postions. Was my way of learning. Have a few hundred screenshots. Saved games from each turn.
I pay a lot of attention to finanaces. Brutii is soon into the rich Greek lands. Very High tax rates and port construction have given me a big cash flow. I enslave some towns so I have a slave resource on the map for even more trade revenue. I dont usually build military buildings until theres nothing else left to build. Most towns have produced troops most turns even if only basic troops or peasants (for garrisons).
Governors have developed great traits and are bringing in additional admin income.
End of last turn Winter 258BC:
Income 75,486
Expenditure 62,963 of which 29,658 was army wages
I am now capturing the north east corner of the map. I dont think a very profitable one. 2nd front against my ally Pontus will soon start.
I dont mod the game. Troops are subject to all the usual movement restrictions.
Most regions captured in one turn was 4 in the summer of 260 (Rhodes, Kydonia,Tylis, Segestica). Expansion is not so fast now as I dont want to go any further west nor south.
Had my first ever command over Cretan archers this week.
https://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4985/brutii258w60ve.th.jpg (https://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii258w60ve.jpg) I like cavalry and archers.
I tend to get protectorates by offering them some of their cities back plus a whole bag of cash. For some reason, the A.I. never thinks of demanding anything but money, even though they want something else. So, offer them all possible options (money, trade rights, map a city) and they will tell what they want. However, I kind of gave up on this seeing how easily my protectorates broke their word. All it took was aggressive action against an ally of them. They are my bloody protectorate: they shouldn't even have diplomatic relations without my say so! :angry:
Ahh, a save-load bug. I can understand that one. You patched to v1.5? I'll keep the rest of what you say in mind and try it out in my campaign.
I think I'm using v1.3, but I'm not really sure.
I tend to get protectorates by offering them some of their cities back plus a whole bag of cash. For some reason, the A.I. never thinks of demanding anything but money, even though they want something else. So, offer them all possible options (money, trade rights, map a city) and they will tell what they want. However, I kind of gave up on this seeing how easily my protectorates broke their word. All it took was aggressive action against an ally of them. They are my bloody protectorate: they shouldn't even have diplomatic relations without my say so! :angry:
Whenever I feel like attacking a protectorates ally I usually put a small army on a major trade route and try and get them to attack me first so the protectorate will cancel their alliance with them.
I have come to the conclusion that any faction will give up at anytime for 1,000,000 denari.
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2112/greeks9ii.th.jpg (https://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks9ii.jpg)
Carthage was the last faction to surrender, for 1 million denari.
https://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5047/greekcities4oh.th.jpg (https://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greekcities4oh.jpg)
I would of had over 9 protectorates at the end but the julii cancelled my alliances with gaul and macedon, I couldnt figure out a way for the seleucids to cancel their alliance with egypt, and I cancelled my alliance with spqr in order to take rome. Over the course of this campaign the following factions did surrender at one time or another, gaul, macedon, egypt, pontus, the julii, S.P.Q.R., thrace, the seleucid empire and carthage.
Garvanko
04-01-2006, 01:37
My Macedon campaign has started out OK. Took Athens double quick, with my Faction Leader, and started the economic build straight away - Ports, farms, traders... Got Alliances with everyone I could, including the Greeks,Dacia and Thrace who all stabbed me in the back five turns later.
With the Greeks I had no choice but to retaliate at Sparta - shot the Spartans down, too. Gained a temple of Nike, but Im not sure I can upgrade it, yet.
The Brutii are hovering on the edge of my borders at Larissa and Thessalonica. Greeks still own Thermon, while Im now at war with the Romans as well. Enemies all around, but it was always so with Macedon. Pointless making Alliances, imo.
A screenshot of my Faction Leader leading the offensive against the Brutii.
https://img320.imageshack.us/img320/2175/macedon8vz.th.jpg (https://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macedon8vz.jpg)
Still not too sure whether I should go all out for Italy or defend my homeland. The Greeks at Thermon could act as a buffer, perhaps? Decisions, decisions..
To the east, another General is heading for Byzantium.
Still not too sure whether I should go all out for Italy or defend my homeland. The Greeks at Thermon could act as a buffer, perhaps? Decisions, decisions..
To the east, another General is heading for Byzantium.
Thats one thing I hate about being a faction that starts right next to roman lands, war is inevitable and the only way to stop it is to wipe out three factions and take Italy.
Severous
04-01-2006, 07:46
Telys.
Your protectorates style is unique. Ive not seen anything like it elsewhere. If i read your screenshot correctly you have protectorates on 2 tiers. Egypt is a protectorate of yours, yet they have a protectorate of their own in the Seleucid. Who receives the tribute from the Seleucid..and did Seleucid lands count towards your total ?
I got a temple of Nike in Sparta (Brutii campaign). Cant decide if I should rip it down and replace it with a true roman one or leave it in place.
Telys.
Your protectorates style is unique. Ive not seen anything like it elsewhere. If i read your screenshot correctly you have protectorates on 2 tiers. Egypt is a protectorate of yours, yet they have a protectorate of their own in the Seleucid. Who receives the tribute from the Seleucid..and did Seleucid lands count towards your total ?
I got a temple of Nike in Sparta (Brutii campaign). Cant decide if I should rip it down and replace it with a true roman one or leave it in place.
The seleucids didn't pay tribute or count for settlements. They did send a few assassins and spies though.
What level is the temple?
Garvanko
04-01-2006, 11:53
I got a temple of Nike in Sparta (Brutii campaign). Cant decide if I should rip it down and replace it with a true roman one or leave it in place.
Pull it down and build your own temple to Mars. Culture penalty will drop, and you'll still get similar experience bonuses from the Mars line.
Severous
04-01-2006, 13:05
Hi
The temple I couldnt decide what to do with:
https://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6404/brutii257w38gu.th.jpg (https://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii257w38gu.jpg)
Sparta is the only place in my empire that can build archers. Its been pumping them out constantly plus an odd Ballistae. So the +1 experience is a nice addition. A consequence of the constant recruitment is Sparta has a stagnant population at around 3000. Public order is 170% and tax is very high. Im not worried about order or culture. Just want the +1 experience.
It would take 3 turns to replace this temple level with a Mars temple. Perhaps replace it once I get population over 6000? In the meantime I am using 3 turns of construction to build a blacksmith...+1 weapons for my archers I hope.
I read that the temple of Mars give governors bad traits. Govenors become Mr Angry :furious3:
Not sure what bad traits Nike will give me...taste for expensive footwear perhaps.
I got a temple of Nike in Sparta (Brutii campaign). Cant decide if I should rip it down and replace it with a true roman one or leave it in place.
I tend to leave them in place if I can upgrade them myself. You can upgrade temples of a similar type. For example, the Julii can upgrade the fertility temples of other cultures (Isis, Freya) to temples of Ceres. Unfortunately, though Nike and Mars give similar bonuses, they are of two different types, respectively victory and violence. So: tear it down. You can find the temples types in the Sinner's Guide to Temples (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=37949) or at the bottom of the export_descr_building.txt.
Edit: just saw Severous' post. The traits affected by both temple types are:
Trigger temple_of_victory_vnv_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists >= temple_of_victory_temple
Affects GoodRiskyAttacker 1 Chance 10
Affects Warlord 1 Chance 10
Affects Pragmatic 1 Chance 10
;------------------------------------------
Trigger temple_of_violence_vnv_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists >= temple_of_violence_temple
Affects Anger 1 Chance 10
Affects Bloodthirsty 1 Chance 10
Affects Energetic 1 Chance 15
While anger is indeed a bad trait to have, bloodthirsty gives a nice +1 command +1 morale at the first level and the higher leves energetic is gives big boosts to management and movement points. Nike gives good risky attacker, which is rather easy to get anyway; pragmatic, which is nice but not as good as energetic; and Warlord, which doesn't affect Romans.
Hi
The temple I couldnt decide what to do with:
https://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6404/brutii257w38gu.th.jpg (https://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii257w38gu.jpg)
With a temple that small I would just replace it and make sure not to keep the same general in that settlement for to long if you change it to a temple of mercury.
Edit: I meant mars, just wasnt really sure and put mercury.
Severous
04-02-2006, 17:36
Thanks for the replies and advice guys.
I have decided for now that the Temple of Nike remains. Building a blacksmith has priority. Once Sparta cannot build anything useful then it will be time to demolish the Nike temple and switch to Mars.
Ive noticed the positive things about Mars and have decided to build a few to Mars in other towns...and move away from almost only Juno temples. Maybe I will get some different retinue also...a change from Priestess and Priests of Juno? If so will my generals be able to have one of each ?
Firsts occuring in my campaign:
- Plague. In Thessolonica 256 Summer (end of turn)
- Fighting lots of Scythian Horse archers.
- Fighting Pontus. Eastern Infantry are not dangerous. Fall quickly to missiles.
- Fighting Pontus Heavy Cavalry. Hard..especially the faction leader.
- Scorpions. Not very deadly but good for provoking enemy at a distance
- Let a town rebel. Loads of upgraded peasants have turned up and the Senate has given me a mission to go recapture it.
My main force is moving east along the northern coast of the Black sea. Tanis next town. But along the way a stack of horse archers. Trying to envelope them.
https://img333.imageshack.us/img333/5246/brutii257s47tj.th.jpg (https://img333.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii257s47tj.jpg)
Worked reasonably well. One got away though and led me a merry dance.
I've just downloaded v1.5 and now when I try to pick a faction with no description it crashes.
Thracian 06
04-04-2006, 09:13
My best campaign was probably my Julli campaign on an early version of SPQR. Macedon was very tough to beat
What up thracian. Got any screenshots of that there campaign?
Ive noticed the positive things about Mars and have decided to build a few to Mars in other towns...and move away from almost only Juno temples. Maybe I will get some different retinue also...a change from Priestess and Priests of Juno? If so will my generals be able to have one of each ?
Yes, you can have multiple priest. Priest of Mars, I admit, are not that good. Just +2 attack or something. You can also get Wrestlers, which are not that impressive either. On the other hand, the healers Juno provides are not as good as plain chirugeon's anyway, so perhaps it doesn't make that much of a difference (unles their bonuses are cumulative with the chirugeon's; then they are very interesting.
- Fighting Pontus. Eastern Infantry are not dangerous.
That is putting it mildly. Eastern Infantry are basically an oversized militia unit and compete with Iberian Infantry for being the weakest second-line unit (although I think the latter received an upgrade in 1.3).
But along the way a stack of horse archers. Trying to envelope them. Worked reasonably well. One got away though and led me a merry dance.
Get some Cretans, or perhaps Rhodians. Either one is a good buy anyway, since they are deadly against most units. Enveloping them is not as effective as I would hope since they can fire effectively even when running. IMHO horse archers are a bit overpowered in this game.
Severous
04-05-2006, 20:44
Thank you for those comments Ludens. I will bear those in mind and report back on what happens.
Ive not done much since my last post. But have earned a heroic victory and a fourth famous battle mark.
https://img426.imageshack.us/img426/3853/brutii257w42hr.th.jpg (https://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii257w42hr.jpg)
I wish the game had not tried to ambush that Gaul army as it moved past me. If it got past me it would have moved further along the road and attacked the Julii army. That allied Julii army is a real pain for me...as I am trying to pass through this area and get to Malissa. But Julii is blocking the road.
I wish the game had not tried to ambush that Gaul army as it moved past me. If it got past me it would have moved further along the road and attacked the Julii army. That allied Julii army is a real pain for me...as I am trying to pass through this area and get to Malissa. But Julii is blocking the road.
I thought if you withdrew an army that was ambushing it would go back into hiding and the enemy army would just continue on as long as they didnt run directly into you.
Not sure what to do next. Can't go north, Looks like the only faction I can attack is dacia.
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6886/julii29xz.th.jpg (https://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii29xz.jpg)
Still have a little while before I can take rome.
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8071/julii32fc.th.jpg (https://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii32fc.jpg)
Any ideas on which direction I should go because I have none at all.:wall:
Severous
04-08-2006, 09:10
Good morning Teyls
You and your Protectorates. Lots of looking to work out whats what.:dizzy2:
Dacia is an ally. Its only two areas but they all count. Would put you next to Scythia who you probobly need to fight eventually to gain more regions.
But isnt it Germany that has to be taken? More regions and fits well into the Julii empire. That Protectorate dimension to consider. I dont understand how allies of protectorates work but might attacking Germany cause you problems in Spain and Macedon ?
Maybe some diplomacy and get Romans fighting Germany and see if your protectorates will drop their alliance with Germany?
Am interested in your thoughts on Germany.
Good morning Teyls
You and your Protectorates. Lots of looking to work out whats what.:dizzy2:
Dacia is an ally. Its only two areas but they all count. Would put you next to Scythia who you probobly need to fight eventually to gain more regions.
But isnt it Germany that has to be taken? More regions and fits well into the Julii empire. That Protectorate dimension to consider. I dont understand how allies of protectorates work but might attacking Germany cause you problems in Spain and Macedon ?
Maybe some diplomacy and get Romans fighting Germany and see if your protectorates will drop their alliance with Germany?
Am interested in your thoughts on Germany.
I dont want to attack germany because it will cancel my alliance with macedon and spain. The only way to get spain and macedonia to cancel their alliances with germania is if I can some how get germania to attack me. The only problem is I have already, in this campaign, had germania as a protectorate, twice, and I doubt they will attack. Only once have I gotten an ally of a protectorate to attack me, I believe it was brittania and we both had germania as protectorate, but in the case with germania they are already weak enough that if they were to declare war on me they would most likely give up immediately and thats why (I think) they wont. Now, I can attack them and most likely gain them as a protectorate but I will lose spain and macedon, thats how I originally lost germania I decided macedon was more profitable. I also could just wipe out all three, but thats no fun.
Severous
04-08-2006, 13:01
Ive no experience of managing protectorates. Whilst your campaign style is unique (ive not seen others post images like yours) yet it comes with draw backs. Free of the political constraints you could be ploughing through Germany and heading east beyond.
This is about as complex as my campaign gets. Joint action with allied Romans against a town full of good quality peasants.
https://img93.imageshack.us/img93/1277/brutii255w17ic.th.jpg (https://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii255w17ic.jpg)
Garvanko
04-10-2006, 00:46
Ahh.. given up on Macedon. Getting stabbed in the back turn after turn by Allies is not only frustrating, but boring.
Im going to start a Brutii Campaign.
My target: Dominate sea trade by taking all of the coastal provinces and islands in the Mediterranean.
Garvanko
04-10-2006, 14:53
Well, Ive started the Brutii Campaign.
My first goal was to quickly gain a foothold in Sicily. I quickly poured all my troops plus a couple of Generals on a ship and sent them to Syracuse. My goal was to take Syracuse and Lilybaem, then Carthage. The first two I was successful, but suprisingly the Scipii moved fast into Africa, once they saw what I was doing. Theyve taken Thapsus, and Carthage is both heavily defended and under seige from Numidia.
Taking Sicily..
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2360/successfulinvasionofsicily9gd.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=successfulinvasionofsicily9gd.jpg)
In Greece, I went first for Thermon, took it, then went back for Apollonia (10 turn mission from the Senate at the start of the game.) My exploits in Sicily left me a bit weak in Greece, and open to an attack from Macedon, who duly seiged Thermon. I lost the settlement, but had time to sweep an army south to take Athens. Its from here and Tarentum that I will launch my main assault on Greece.
Training Principes at Athens
https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8716/trainingprincipesatathens1vk.th.jpg (https://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trainingprincipesatathens1vk.jpg)
Macedon has grown quite strong in this game, so I got an Alliance with the Greek Cities, just to keep them honest.
Playing VH/H.
Severous
04-10-2006, 19:10
Greetings Garvanko from a fellow Brutii commander
Im playing easier..on H/H
I go for senate missions as fast as reasonably possible and want to capture the eastern end of the map. I went for Appolonia on turn one. Then onto Thermon. Soon after Sicilly fell to Scipii. I took Greece and Macedon before they could become powerful. I have only built one Principle unit in the campaign so far. As im going to fight eastern nations with elephants and chariots I am preferring velites and archers. Also lots of cavalry to take on the horsemen of the the russian/persian expanse.
Here is me in 253 BC...several years on from your position.
https://img325.imageshack.us/img325/5536/brutii253s18uw.th.jpg (https://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii253s18uw.jpg)
About to capture the Pontus Capital.
https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9128/brutii253s21ls.th.jpg (https://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii253s21ls.jpg)
Needless to say..this friendly fire casualty did not heal at the end of the battle. Walking in front of artillery that is firing is not recommended. I will be more careful next time.
https://img325.imageshack.us/img325/7088/brutii253s36ke.th.jpg (https://img325.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii253s36ke.jpg)
This was the enemy unit I was most worried about. Was all going well as archers killed them from afar.
https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5674/brutii253s42iy.th.jpg (https://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii253s42iy.jpg)
But then they 'ran amok' and as they did so they did their best move..they came out of the city and smashed into my archers.
I have 4 armies in the north east, 2 in the alps, 2 in Turkey. The biggest army is blocking a pass in a fort north of the southern Pontus city. Im hoping the Secloid nation will take on the big Pontus forces in southern Turkey and once weakened I will march in against a weakened survivor.
Ive just survived my first ever Plague. :sweatdrop: The scripted plague event in Thessolonica. Didnt loose my governor who indeed gained some nice traits whilst holed up in the city constructing various buildings. I followed the advice on the forums and deliberately infected one of my spies and took him to visit other factions. Carefully by ship he went to go study volcano Etna. It was a real shame he infected the Scipii towns on Sicilly. :skull: If he survives long enough he will go to Spain and Britian next.
Garvanko
04-10-2006, 21:51
Fantastic stuff, Severos.
Great screenshots, too. Why don't you use Minimal UI on the Battle map?
I've progressed pretty well in my campaign since my last post. Took Larissa (senate mission), and Carthage (finally, after Numidia had softened them up).
Rebels attacked my forces at Lilybaem - didn't expect that.
I then seiged Thessalonica. On the next turn, the city got the plague! Coincidence? As soon as I take it, it will get a spanking new shrine to Juno. The Alliance with Greece did help stem the tide, although Corinth is now well garissoned by Macedonian Pikemen. South of them at Sparta, Greece has two full stacks, so I can understand the Macedonian reluctance to attack me at Athens. Also explains how I took Thermon and Larissa so easily.
Well, I decided to take what's left of dacia. The battle for campus lazyges.
https://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4395/julii23pw.th.jpg (https://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii23pw.jpg)
Dude took it to the neck.
https://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7957/julii31pm.th.jpg (https://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii31pm.jpg)
Conquered lands in Gaul starting to make some money.
https://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3073/greeks3xt.th.jpg (https://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks3xt.jpg)
Old screenshot from greek campaign. General getting in on the action.
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8963/greeks16jc.th.jpg (https://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks16jc.jpg)
Garvanko
04-11-2006, 11:52
Taking Byzantium
https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2600/takingbyzantium3fy.th.jpg (https://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takingbyzantium3fy.jpg)
I pushed on and took Lepis in Africa, as well as Corinth and Sparta.
Update: Asia Minor.
This army is defending the bridge while I seige Halicarrnass. Nicomedia is also under seige. The Pontic army near Pergamnum is full of Eastern Infantry, and they have been standing around there for a few turns.
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1645/asiaminor0sb.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asiaminor0sb.jpg)
Taking Halicarrnass. Cavalry charge.
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1197/cavcharge7sc.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cavcharge7sc.jpg)
Im now going to sweep round the eastern Med taking all the coastal provinces from Egypt. Lots of fun in this campaign. Marian reforms yet to occur, though I watching Patavium closely.
All of this has made me want to get back on the campaign trail again. Really nice campaigns there guys.
Taking Byzantium
https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2600/takingbyzantium3fy.th.jpg (https://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takingbyzantium3fy.jpg)
I pushed on and took Lepis in Africa, as well as Corinth and Sparta.
Update: Asia Minor.
This army is defending the bridge while I seige Halicarrnass. Nicomedia is also under seige. The Pontic army near Pergamnum is full of Eastern Infantry, and they have been standing around there for a few turns.
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1645/asiaminor0sb.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asiaminor0sb.jpg)
Taking Halicarrnass. Cavalry charge.
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1197/cavcharge7sc.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cavcharge7sc.jpg)
Im now going to sweep round the eastern Med taking all the coastal provinces from Egypt. Lots of fun in this campaign. Marian reforms yet to occur, though I watching Patavium closely.
Very nice. I tried controlling all the coastal cities as the greeks once. I got a lot of money but found it a little difficult to maintain my borders due to the fact i was spread out from spain to the black sea and was at war with most everybody, and transporting generals and armies to the main battlefronts took a while.
Garvanko
04-11-2006, 23:36
Very nice. I tried controlling all the coastal cities as the greeks once. I got a lot of money but found it a little difficult to maintain my borders due to the fact i was spread out from spain to the black sea and was at war with most everybody, and transporting generals and armies to the main battlefronts took a while.I think I got lucky in Greece. Macedon left me alone once they were down to one province (Bylazora). I also have stable Alliances with Scythia, Germania and Spain, so Im well covered in the North and the West. Pontus is my main front at the moment, though war with Egypt is imminent.
I think it helps alot that the Brutii have such great temples. A very well balanced faction, imo.
Decide to go to war with germania.
That famous battle should not be there. I had about 300 men and germania had about 1400. They won, I killed about 400 men.
https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2029/julii26ay.th.jpg (https://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii26ay.jpg)
Here is a shot of that battle.
https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2000/greeks8vt.th.jpg (https://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks8vt.jpg)
I can now take on the senate, after getting over two cases of the plague in mediolanium and arretium. I lost a 17 year old general to the one arretium.
https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1895/julii38qu.th.jpg (https://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=julii38qu.jpg)
Garvanko
04-14-2006, 21:12
No marian reforms yet?
If you do take on the senate, may I suggest you head straight for Sicily first. It likely to be poorly defended, but more importantly, it will probably have at least one settlement with a Temple to Vulcan plus a Foundry. Retrain your troops there, and then take the rest of Italy. Also use it as a launchpad for your invasion into Africa.
No marian reforms yet?
If you do take on the senate, may I suggest you head straight for Sicily first. It likely to be poorly defended, but more importantly, it will probably have at least one settlement with a Temple to Vulcan plus a Foundry. Retrain your troops there, and then take the rest of Italy. Also use it as a launchpad for your invasion into Africa.
Reforms happened maybe 3 years ago, all I've been able to muster up since then is like 5 units of legionary calvary and some archer auxilia, I've been spending most of that time trying to get rid of all my hastati. I was gonna head straight for rome but your idea sounds pretty solid, I think I'll do that.
Garvanko
04-15-2006, 10:24
Good luck.
Defending Pergamnun from Pontus. Heroic victory - The 2500+ kills is misleading. Most of the second Pontic army routed from the field without even entering the city.
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4737/heroicvictoryatpergamnun0sd.th.jpg (https://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heroicvictoryatpergamnun0sd.jpg)
I decided to start a new campaign as thrace.
My second battle with pontus.
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9375/greeks6sf.th.jpg (https://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks6sf.jpg)
The outcome.
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8439/greeks12gb.th.jpg (https://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks12gb.jpg)
Some statistics.
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9892/g28kj.th.jpg (https://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g28kj.jpg)
Campaign map.
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9356/gh2si.th.jpg (https://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gh2si.jpg)
Having some trouble gaining protectorates as thrace. No trouble gaining enemies though.
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5872/g30fs.th.jpg (https://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g30fs.jpg)
I'm about to take tarentum and domus dulcis domus. I'm also debating on whether or not I should take themiskyra, kind of isolated, but would fill out my empire real nice.
Bastarnae
04-17-2006, 18:26
Guys how can I post screenshots of my campaigns? like Garvanko or Telys are doing....I mean,I know about imageshack but it gives me a link wich I could post here.But I want to see the small imagine here and after clicking it gets bigger like Telys does
Thanks:bow:
Severous
04-17-2006, 19:25
You play fast Telys. Takes me weeks to get that far. Too many enemies for my liking...although you have no trouble despatching them I see. :2thumbsup:
Bastarnae..so you have the screenshot ready , its hosted on imageshack..but cant get the right link ? Cool . You have done the hard bits.
Heres a shot...the highlighted link is the one you want for the thumbnails.
https://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4633/link5mn.th.jpg (https://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=link5mn.jpg)
Left click right at the very start of the link so all is highlighted. Then right click to call up the copy option. You now have the link in windows ready to paste onto this or other furums.
And so I stay on topic: From my currrent Brutii campaign.
https://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2619/brutii252s10yk.th.jpg (https://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s10yk.jpg)
The final battle for Pontus is about to begin. Jumping off from that fort is a full Brutii stack with a mix of forces. Bit light on cavalry and Roman infantry but good on missiles and Phalanx. It faces chariots, heavy cavalry, light missile cav and loads of Eastern Infantry.
Elsewhere in the world:
- Brutii spy spreads plague in Scipii Sicilly and Africa.
- Brutii cavalry forces sweeping across Scythia and into Perthia.
- Brutii forces capturing, then allowing to revolt, the towns of Mallissa and Mediolanium
Bastarnae
04-17-2006, 20:54
Thanks but I doesn't work because the file is over 2MB...however....I get the Marius Reforms in 243 BC WITHOUT IMPERIAL PALACE :shocked2: anywhere
You play fast Telys. Takes me weeks to get that far. Too many enemies for my liking...although you have no trouble despatching them I see. :2thumbsup:
Yea, I've been trying to get a ceasefire from scythia, the greek cities, and macedon but for some reason they wont have it, rather frustrating if you ask me, they're basically forcing me to expand. Most of my other enemies were former allies who betrayed me once my borders reached theirs', ie pontus and the romans. Everybody keeps attacking me, the only faction I declared war upon was pontus because they were blocking the sea of marmara(not sure on the spelling) and my ships couldnt leave the black sea, and directly after that attack I offered a ceasefire and alliance that lasted about 5-6 years before they attacked me once I took pergamum.
Garvanko
04-18-2006, 10:54
Guys how can I post screenshots of my campaigns? like Garvanko or Telys are doing....I mean,I know about imageshack but it gives me a link wich I could post here.But I want to see the small imagine here and after clicking it gets bigger like Telys does
Thanks:bow:
Once you've hosted the screenshot (in JPEG format), transfer the link (link for forums 1) into your reply box.
That is all.
Garvanko
04-18-2006, 10:59
Brutii campaign has progressed well. Have conquered all the coastal cities on the eastern side of the Med - including Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Antioch.
Arcani taking on Rebels in Italy.
https://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5985/arcani7ke.th.jpg (https://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arcani7ke.jpg)
Will post some shots of my initial invasion of Rome, Croton, Messana and Thapsus - all in the same turn!
Well, its official, everybody hates thrace, even nature. No matter how hard I try I cannot get a ceasefire from anyone, even macedon and the greeks who are down to one city each, the romans keep bribing my settlements in tribus sarmatae and pripet, my ports are continously blockaded by my numerous enemies, and a volcano just killed my best general and half his army directly after I won two heroic battles, during the AI turn, against the scipii and spqr in campania. I dont know what it is, but every faction just has to go to war with me in this campaign and fight until they have nothing left.
Might as well put up some shots of a battle with dacia.
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9982/greeks9up.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks9up.jpg)
Charging
https://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4238/greeks19al.th.jpg (https://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks19al.jpg)
Routing
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2313/g22qi.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g22qi.jpg)
Second wave
https://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7452/gh2ub.th.jpg (https://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gh2ub.jpg)
Outcome
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/567/g36gh.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g36gh.jpg)
Garvanko
04-18-2006, 12:23
Thrace, like Macedon, is always under threat from all sides, Telys. It gets a bit annoying especially when Allies stab you in the back, though I guess thats what you get for controlling the richest area in the map! Everyone else wants a piece of the pie!
:2thumbsup:
Screenshots of my Brutii Campaign - remember Im trying to control all coastal cities in the Med.
Ive just started the Civil War, ten turns after I got the 'Chance for Power' message. In those ten turns I trained a lot of spies, whom I placed in all the cities I am currently seiging - the gates are open in all of them! I also retrained most of my major forces, and prepared for a simultaneous assault on the SPQR and the Scipii.
1) Here, Ive just seiged Rome and Croton- all three weakly defended, and in Rome's case, the Senate army is stuck in Julii territory(:oops: for them), so they should have a nice time harrasing Julii armies once I take the settlement on this turn and they turn into Rebel. Ive also blockaded the ports at Patavium, Ariminum, Croton and Rome.
https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5220/senatestuckinarretium1go.th.jpg (https://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=senatestuckinarretium1go.jpg)
2) Here, I will also take Messana and Thapsus on this turn, which will severely cripple the Scipii, as they will only have the other African provinces left. I'll then move west with an Army up to the Straight of Gibralter. Again, Ive blockaded Thapsus and Messana.
https://img83.imageshack.us/img83/126/moreblockadesandseiges6jl.th.jpg (https://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=moreblockadesandseiges6jl.jpg)
Its a really fun campaign. So far Ive faced the Greeks, Macedon, Pontus (darn those Pontic horsemen!) and Egypt(darn those Egyptian Chariots and Archers!!). Now I'll have some fun with the Roman factions, especially the Julii, before I have to take on the Barbarians in Spain and Gaul. The War in Europe look like it will be very tough.
Severous
04-18-2006, 19:49
Never seen Arcani in any of my games.
Glad someone else found the Pontic horsemen a challenge. Heavy Cav and Generals have a good missile attack and then they have a powerful charge...all with 2 hit points. Faction leaders in particular have the strongest bettlefield unit ive yet to come across.
My biggest ever battle in RTW. Had this been on huge it would have been over 7000 men. As it is 'large' scale its only 3500+
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4674/brutii252s31nz.th.jpg (https://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s31nz.jpg)
Had been hoping another faction would weaken Pontus. But became impatient so took em on by myself. Had a great top of the hill position giving missile troops great shots. All my ammo was used before the battle ended.
First wave:
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5572/brutii252s25be.th.jpg (https://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s25be.jpg)
Using Cicilian pirates for the first time ever.
https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4170/brutii252s54lx.th.jpg (https://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s54lx.jpg)
Noticed these mercenaries were available as I moved into battle position so recruited them into the last available slot. They have a solid ranged attack and look like they will make good against Eastern Infantry. They helped in a couple of important fights.
You can see from the angle that I am deploying on a hill.
View from my hill top position. Scouting cavalry to help me spot the feared chariots. They were the number one target. Long range artillery was going to try and make them 'run amok'.
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2497/brutii252s67gg.th.jpg (https://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s67gg.jpg)
Dont you just love it when your missile troops cream the enemy
https://img104.imageshack.us/img104/4007/brutii252s76tv.th.jpg (https://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s76tv.jpg)
Getting close. Those chariots are still coming. Two heading for vulnerable missile troops on my right flank. 'Fire for your lives'
https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9314/brutii252s88dj.th.jpg (https://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s88dj.jpg)
Cicilians and Hastati getting into position to guard the left flank.
'Fire for your lives' order taken literally by archers
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2906/brutii252s93bv.th.jpg (https://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s93bv.jpg)
Oh sweet....one chariot runs amok..right into the other one.
https://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5048/brutii252s105id.th.jpg (https://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s105id.jpg)
Third chariot with cavalry support is flanking on the left.
https://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3883/brutii252s118pd.th.jpg (https://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s118pd.jpg)
Cicilians fire..along with almost everyone else. Cicilians expendable [didnt tell them that]. They can absorb the damage of any attack which I then counter charge with regular troops. Main worry is the third chariot. Perhaps thats the 3 chevron unit. Wonder where the two 'amok' chariots will go.
Chariot getting close. Seems to be after my cavalry..or is it determined to flank?
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7980/brutii252s124ic.th.jpg (https://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s124ic.jpg)
My favourite shot
https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3269/brutii252s134fi.th.jpg (https://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s134fi.jpg)
My left flank is engaging. Barbarian Mercenaries rushed over from the right flank and after a war cry charge down hill into the Eastern Infantry. Cicilians also been in action somewhare..absorbing Pontic cavalry missiles probobly. Fire arrows light up the Barbarian faces as it passes overhead to hit the Chariot unit. Meanwhile my weakened right flank has been hit...lost my exposed artillery.
Another tactical blunder. Enemy cavalry hit the exposed flank of my phalanx.
https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7118/brutii252s147tn.th.jpg (https://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s147tn.jpg)
Hastati and cavalry will see them off. Not sure if its enemy or my own fire thats raining death on my forces. Probobly a bit of both. Third chariot is amok now and seems to be heading away. Relief.
Mopping up the first wave held one surprise
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6448/brutii252s152mm.th.jpg (https://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s152mm.jpg)
Barbarian Mercenary Cavalry unit was routed by a tiny Pontic Heavy Cavalry unit.
2nd Wave:
https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8677/brutii252s40oa.th.jpg (https://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s40oa.jpg)
Battle is joined. Centre and both flanks attacked this time.
https://img415.imageshack.us/img415/278/brutii252s176wk.th.jpg (https://img415.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s176wk.jpg)
It was this left flank again that became dangerous. Id forgotten the power of the silver chevron Pontic Faction leader and his big bodyguard. At one stage they stood inches from the Phalanx and unloaded round after round of missiles. So bundle ordered. This fight went on and on. Absorbed more and more troops including velites, hastati and general. Cicilians right in the thick of it. No one routed yet...
Right flank
https://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8099/brutii252s185ke.th.jpg (https://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s185ke.jpg)
Mercenary Barbarian infantry and Mercenary Peltasts crash into the Eastern Infantry. Ive remembered to withdraw my precious and irreplacable scorpion crews out of harms way. They stand at the top of the hill. Meanwhile out of shot the fight against the Pontus king continues causing many losses to my troops.
Left Flank
https://img409.imageshack.us/img409/747/brutii252s195vm.th.jpg (https://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s195vm.jpg)
The dust and death is thick here. Proud of my novice Equites. Down to 6 men and still in there. A 2nd Pontus general has fallen..but the king is still in there fighting.
Its looking good but still the Pontus king is not down..if he were to get my general... Just a few seconds before this flank is mine. Peltasts without ammo are now charging from this fight into another unit down the hill.
https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3158/brutii252s202qo.th.jpg (https://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s202qo.jpg)
On the extreme right its archers against Eastern Infantry with no other infantry around. A dose of fire to lower Eastern infantry morale. Then out of ammo the archers and slingers with do hand to hand if necessary.
https://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4663/brutii252s211up.th.jpg (https://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s211up.jpg)
Someone has routed in the distance...but its not the Pontus king. Mr indestructable. Until he is down this battle is not won.
'This is no way for a general to behave'
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7443/brutii252s227kx.th.jpg (https://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s227kx.jpg)
Unless it is the enemy general ! The King is broken and flees. He will get away despite the mob after him. If only I had a unit of light cavalry left they would have brought him down.
Cicilian pirates looting.
https://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4794/brutii252s234lc.th.jpg (https://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s234lc.jpg)
The rest of my troops chase routers. The enemy city is visible. That prize now lays virtually unprotected and at my mercy.
Heroic Victory. The odds were 1:2
https://img466.imageshack.us/img466/6379/brutii252s263xu.th.jpg (https://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s263xu.jpg)
You can see the hill the enemy had to climb to get to me. Interesting that they choose to do that. I was the attacker yet they attacked me. I am beginning to think that a superior force will attack you even if its the defender.
https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7809/brutii252s275vw.th.jpg (https://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii252s275vw.jpg)
Ballista crew looks like they were playing dead...all recovered. Must have fainted from the garish uniforms of the Eastern Infantry. Those same crew justify their low kill rate by swearing it was their flaming shot that caused the chariot to run amok. A claim hotly disputed by both archer units.
Mercenary Peltasts were a rambo unit with high kill count. Cicilians claim they had the best quality kills..Pontic cavalry. General Caius was too exhausted to care. He pressed on and had another battle for the city where finally the King Spartocus was slain in the plaza...by Wardogs
Pontus out.
5th Famous battle marker of the campaign :2thumbsup:
Thrace, like Macedon, is always under threat from all sides, Telys. It gets a bit annoying especially when Allies stab you in the back, though I guess thats what you get for controlling the richest area in the map! Everyone else wants a piece of the pie!
:2thumbsup:
Why do the the greek cities not have this problem? or atleast when I have played as them I had some allies on my borders and was able to get ceasefires from weakened enemies.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-18-2006, 22:06
I am never the spanish as the iberian infantry gets cuts down like paper and I'd never give egypt any settlements I have lost men over as they are my most hated faction. :furious3: They always give me hassle who ever I am.
Diurpaneus
04-18-2006, 23:12
This is my actualy Julii campaign.I'm waiting for the people's symphaty to take Rome...then the rest of the Italy including Sicilia....and after that i will march against the rest of the world
As you can see some of the factions are doing very well
Now i'm at War with Germania,Numidia,Egypt
I have allied with the Greeks Cities to help them against Brutii
Germania in every turn are attacking me with large numerous armies but i'm good enough to resist them:laugh4: though they have the best units (chosen axemen,night raiders,chosen archers)
Parthia too is well developed...with huge and epic stone walls...cataphracts,elephants..etc
However what can I do to have the people's sumphaty sooner ? I ignored all senates's missions and still no approval from the plebes:help:
https://img143.imageshack.us/img143/76/untitled1024x7686sr.th.jpg (https://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1024x7686sr.jpg)
Garvanko
04-18-2006, 23:38
That looks like a crazy campaign, Diurpaneaus. You only have about five or six settlements, so I assume you also have protectorates. If so, which ones, and how many?
The best way to win the favour of the Plebs is to conquer new territory. You'll need around 25-30 settlements under your control to trigger a Civil war.
Before you start one, best deal with those Germans. Build forts in the passage ways, or they'll just walk right through and keep attacking you.
Garvanko
04-18-2006, 23:41
Why do the the greek cities not have this problem?Honestly don't know. I suspect its hardcoded, though. Some factions are just more likely to be constantly attacked. Seluecids, Carthage being others.
Diurpaneus
04-18-2006, 23:49
Thanks.I will do that...I will try to launch an invasion from Caralis into Iberia and conquer...then I will move north against britons...Seems Is the only options left...because the i have only 3 "faction banners" plebes likeness in the senate's room
I will keep posting here screenshots from this campaign
Severous
04-19-2006, 01:19
For sure its gaining regions that raises popularitiy with the people.
I started civil war four ways:
- Failed assasination against Rome (or Roman..cant remember)
- Refused to assasinate my faction leader
- Marched on Rome when people power was high enough and 'Chance for Power' message appeared.
- Blockaded a Roman port.
All maybe linked to the number of regions and chance for power existing.
Look forward to more screenshots.
Diurpaneus
04-19-2006, 05:08
Unfortunately I had some problems and I lost the save file,so I can't continue that campaign ~:(
Now I started other Julii campaign and until now looks similar like the other one.
-The Germans are "crazy" again :dizzy2:
-Because I hate Egypt I took my whole army in the first turn to destroy them.You can see I occupied Memphis (cause here Is the most advanced settlement in the area and I can retrain my units) My faction leader is there with 6 hastati,1 archer,1triarii,and 1 velites...Now I train some archers because 2 large egyptian armies are closing in to siege the settlement
Because I took my whole army into Egypt..You can see the consequences ..I'm having some problems with the Gauls.They attacked me.I have few troops here and it will take some time to develop and destroy them
https://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1260/untitleds1024x7687ol.th.jpg (https://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitleds1024x7687ol.jpg)
I will keep posting from this campaign
SomeNick
04-19-2006, 06:07
I'm really enjoying this thread and will attempt to post my own favourite campaign if time allows.
Thanks lads :2thumbsup:
Just started a new campaign : Republic of Rome in RTR...(fantastic mod too!)
Severous
04-19-2006, 07:17
Excellent. Two new posters. More the merrier.
That was a real blow loosing a save game.:dizzy2: Save often ? Dont forget the autosave. Probobly too late this time as you have started again and a fresh autosave will have overwritten your last campaign autosave.
Julii on RTW V1.5 M/M First ever campaign
https://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4940/gaulcamp1342at.th.jpg (https://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaulcamp1342at.jpg)
I didnt meet the factions on the eastern end of the map. Only right near the end did I take that North Aftrican region that put me next to the Egyptians.
Well, thrace pissed me off so I quit. Started yet another campaign as the seleucids. Had a little trouble in the beginning of the campaign, I take susa and all hell breaks loose, first the egyptians attacked, then armenia, then pontus. Thankfully I was able to get an alliance with greece so they wont attack for awhile, I hope. For some reason pontus gave up after maybe 2 years and one major battle. Once allied with pontus, parthia and egypt were forced to call a ceasefire with me. Egypt, of course, immediately attacked me on the next turn cancelling their alliance with pontus.
https://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9921/g27iz.th.jpg (https://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g27iz.jpg)
I'm now attempting to sneak up on armenia and take their only two settlements. And hopefully on the way parthia will get ancy and attack that army so I can continue north.
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7770/g36vn.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g36vn.jpg)
Diurpaneus, that has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Taking memphis right in the beginning. Is memphis making any money? Whats the public order look like? I mean of all the cities to take you pick the one that's completely surrounded.
I'm really enjoying this thread and will attempt to post my own favourite campaign if time allows.
Thanks lads :2thumbsup:
Just started a new campaign : Republic of Rome in RTR...(fantastic mod too!)
Post any campaign you got man. I only said best or favorite in the beginning to make it sound interesting. I'm basically posting shots of every campaign I start.
Garvanko
04-19-2006, 09:10
Memphis, Diurpaneus? Thats just unbelievable. Will be interested to know how you carried on.
Well I was looking around the forge and decided to give a mod another try. Not to bad so far.
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2091/g20dy.th.jpg (https://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g20dy.jpg)
A little battle with some rebels
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2005/gh7uu.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gh7uu.jpg)
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1240/greeks0kj.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks0kj.jpg)
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1319/greeks13br.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks13br.jpg)
Oh, and the mod is mundus magna version uno(one).
Diurpaneus
04-20-2006, 23:51
As I promised here's a new screenshot
https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/5071/ehypt1024x7681fq.th.jpg (https://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ehypt1024x7681fq.jpg)
I destroyed Egypt and after that I disbanded all my troops and leave the cities....Now the REAL GAME can begin!!
I always wanted to fight against advanced parthians or seleucids:2thumbsup: ...now they can develope in PEACE!! as is historicaly correct too
Too bad those stupid brutti ruines my campaign with their expansion:furious3: ....I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL A MOD WILL APPEAR TO FIX THE BRUTII EXPANSION !!! OR REMOVE THEM
Carthage has taken Sicily !
Cheers!:2thumbsup:
I've exapanded a little, but not too much.
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/677/g24jq.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g24jq.jpg)
About to have a decent size battle with carthage.
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3706/g30kn.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g30kn.jpg)
And here's some shots of another battle with carthage. Retaking emporion.
https://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7585/gh5jd.th.jpg (https://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gh5jd.jpg)
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7646/greeks2dx.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks2dx.jpg)
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9244/greeks17lf.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks17lf.jpg)
As I promised here's a new screenshot
https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/5071/ehypt1024x7681fq.th.jpg (https://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ehypt1024x7681fq.jpg)
I destroyed Egypt and after that I disbanded all my troops and leave the cities....Now the REAL GAME can begin!!
I always wanted to fight against advanced parthians or seleucids:2thumbsup: ...now they can develope in PEACE!! as is historicaly correct too
Too bad those stupid brutti ruines my campaign with their expansion:furious3: ....I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL A MOD WILL APPEAR TO FIX THE BRUTII EXPANSION !!! OR REMOVE THEM
Carthage has taken Sicily !
Cheers!:2thumbsup:
well thats a first. I've never seen carthage take all of sicily. good stuff there Diurpaneus.
Diurpaneus
04-21-2006, 00:20
Thanks.
Yes Carthage has taken Sicily because I've added some XP points to their starting army there.:2thumbsup:
Garvanko
04-21-2006, 01:13
As I promised here's a new screenshot
https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/5071/ehypt1024x7681fq.th.jpg (https://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ehypt1024x7681fq.jpg)
I destroyed Egypt and after that I disbanded all my troops and leave the cities....Now the REAL GAME can begin!!
I always wanted to fight against advanced parthians or seleucids:2thumbsup: ...now they can develope in PEACE!! as is historicaly correct too
Too bad those stupid brutti ruines my campaign with their expansion:furious3: ....I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL A MOD WILL APPEAR TO FIX THE BRUTII EXPANSION !!! OR REMOVE THEM
Carthage has taken Sicily !
Cheers!:2thumbsup:Egypt gone?! Very impressive! Shows what can happen when you do the unexpected.
Diurpaneus
04-21-2006, 01:40
Yes gone:2thumbsup: I can't wait until I will fight against parthian cataphracts or seleucid silver shields:laugh4:
Telys : What map is that ? is it Mundus Magnus version 1,2 or 3 ?
Yes gone:2thumbsup: I can't wait until I will fight against parthian cataphracts or seleucid silver shields:laugh4:
Telys : What map is that ? is it Mundus Magnus version 1,2 or 3 ?
I decided to go with one. I wanted as little change as possible with the actual gameplay and factions.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-21-2006, 10:21
I've exapanded a little, but not too much.
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/677/g24jq.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g24jq.jpg)
About to have a decent size battle with carthage.
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3706/g30kn.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g30kn.jpg)
And here's some shots of another battle with carthage. Retaking emporion.
https://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7585/gh5jd.th.jpg (https://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gh5jd.jpg)
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7646/greeks2dx.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks2dx.jpg)
https://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9244/greeks17lf.th.jpg (https://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greeks17lf.jpg)
Corrupted? Works fine for me.
But here's a link to the site...just click misc. software and download Howie's Quick Screen Capture, quick, easy, simple, the best screenshot program imo mate. ~:cheers:
http://www.howiesfunware.com/
What mod are you using for a map that big?
Bastarnae
04-21-2006, 10:25
I think that is Mundus Magnus mod Bombasticus Maximus
Bombasticus Maximus
04-21-2006, 15:27
And i'm guessing thats for 1.5. Where do I get it from?
And i'm guessing thats for 1.5. Where do I get it from?
Mundus magnus the first version. If you go the forge and look for the stickied thread thread "finished mods" it'll be there under map mods. Im using the 1.2 patch not 1.5. I never liked the changes 1.3, 1.5 made so I've just stuck with 1.2. I guess it works for it, obviosly I'm using it and havent ran into any problems so far.
Here's a link https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47830
Bombasticus Maximus
04-21-2006, 17:43
Ok thanks.
Called a ceasefire with gaul. It lasted for a few years. I guess gaul felt they were ready push me out. I dont think they were though. So I retalliated by attacking gergovia.
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1412/j1ru.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j1ru.jpg)
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6352/j15ux.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j15ux.jpg)
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/97/picture0022tc.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0022tc.jpg)
Now to deal with their so called reinforcements.
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5571/picture0032ii.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0032ii.jpg)
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6707/picture0059dh.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0059dh.jpg)
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8972/picture0070zi.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0070zi.jpg)
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7991/picture0085rn.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0085rn.jpg)
Brutii beat me in the race to gain a protectorate.
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7660/picture0117fr.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0117fr.jpg)
I really do hate this bug. Everytime I try out a mod this always happens after every battle. Anyone know how to stop it, I know how to fix it in game, but I want to stop it from happening all together.
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5620/picture0094we.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0094we.jpg)
Edit: Nevermind I think I figured how to fix it.
Severous
04-22-2006, 00:19
More Protectorates.... And thats some oil slick you have there.
My first ever sighting of a Cataphract unit.
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7970/brutii251w11ll.th.jpg (https://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii251w11ll.jpg)
Straregically Brutii forces are moving clockwise..up through Trace, east across russia, south through Armenia. There they meet up with the mostly infantry armies moving through Turkey. Once Armenia and Perthia are gone it will be south onto the Secloids and Egyptians. I choose to do my first suicide this turn in order to bring more forces into the Italian region in preparation for Roman civil war.
Cat's in action. I let them charge my missile troops...:inquisitive: I had to see them in action you understand.
https://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2699/brutii251w22fm.th.jpg (https://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii251w22fm.jpg)
Garvanko
04-22-2006, 00:53
You move really fast in your campaigns, Severous.
Ive been steadily building my forces since destroyed the Senate. Naturally, the Julii have grand designs of their own!
Training Urban Cohorts for garrison duty in Rome.
https://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6195/rome6jo.th.jpg (https://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rome6jo.jpg)
Severous
04-22-2006, 06:22
I play real slow..months to do a campaign..but the game is reasonably fast - taking few years of game time. I may play different next time...holeing up in a small area...turtling I think its called.
I see you lost a city in the eastern med..tut tut..:oops: Send forces back or do you have good garrisons?
Patavium under blockade...perhaps a sea born invasion against those weakly held cities (with spies inside to open gates) would cripple the Julii ? Exterminate Patavium once you get it for a big cash boost and freedom from its squalor induced disorder problems.
Avicenna
04-22-2006, 08:25
Playing EB Koinon Hellenon now, my first serious EB campaign. It's 259 BC and I have managed to keep all my 3 starting cities, kept the Ptolemaics as allies and Epirotes as neutral and almost eliminated the Makedonians. I've captured Demetrias, Chalkis and Korintoi, but I've had trouble with the full stack in Pella while reinforcements keep on coming to break my siege, wasting years of my time. The problem is that the KH are absolutely hopeless in sieges, being rubbish on the wall and too slow to avoid the gates' arrows. The Epirotes have been beaten back to their 2 holdings in the Balkans, which I'm intending to take out as soon as I have Pella, and then focusing my efforts on Rome.
Garvanko
04-22-2006, 10:33
I see you lost a city in the eastern med..tut tut..:oops: Send forces back or do you have good garrisons?No, I actually took it and then let it rebel. Im only taking coastal cities in this campaign. That one was controlled by Pontus, and I wanted to end their influence in the area.
Did the same to Ancyra in Asia Minor. Took it, exterminated the population, then sent it back to the stone age before leaving. One of these days they really should accept my offer of ceasefire and trade right..
Severous
04-22-2006, 18:33
Hi Garvanko
I didnt look close enough. Sorry. I didnt see that there was a thin piece of land in between that rebel city and the sea. I am unfamiliar with that end of the map as ive only played Julii in the western end on the map...until now
My Brutii campaign is meant to address that lack of knowledge. Its getting close to that area. I am fighting all the eastern factions for the first time ever and seeing many new types of troops.
I am at war with Armenia and Perthia. Neutral with trade rights with all others. Sufficient Brutii forces are at large to complete the destruction of Armenia and I hope Perthia. Secloid and Egypt are next on the hit list. My biggest army is in a fort west of Antioch. Lots of enemy ahead. I want more cavalry at my command before I go up against several stacks of enemy.
So whilst I wait for my other forces to capture Armenia and Perthia I am using spies in Antioch. Those two have been enough to cause unrest and so damage the troops inside.
https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/175/brutii251w44mo.th.jpg (https://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii251w44mo.jpg)
I had been expecting Egypt to attack from the south. Wanted them to wear themself and the Antioch defenders down. Maybe I could march against the weakened survivors. That hadnt happened for 2 turns and I am now impatient to march. So my diplomat had a word with an Egyptian general and greased a palm or two.
https://img174.imageshack.us/img174/602/brutii251w35mf.th.jpg (https://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii251w35mf.jpg)
In the end 3010 denarii was enough to get the Egyptians to agree to attack the Secloids
After that piece of diplomacy I stood back and over the end of turn watched one Egyptian attack fail. Egyptians have more forces coming up. Kill each other..go on..do it.
https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/939/brutii250s25dh.th.jpg (https://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii250s25dh.jpg)
Notice my own army north west of Antioch. That was 79 Archers and 54 Equites sent to take out a single rebel Eastern Infantry unit. They did that without loss and gained a good 'Man of the Hour' (5*/2m/1i). The new general recruited all available mercenaries..including 2 two types Ive never used before. Not enough room in my fort for all these. Going to have to do some reading up on what these troops can do and send the weaker troops back to Tarsus. I want to see at least one other turn pass before I attack here...want to watch those Egyptians have a big fight over Antioch.
Dilema now is do I withdraw a spy so there is no more unrest in Antioch...and does my navy declare war and start the blockades that will help cripple Egypt. Loving this campaign.:2thumbsup:
Garvanko
04-22-2006, 19:53
After that piece of diplomacy I stood back and over the end of turn watched one Egyptian attack fail. Egyptians have more forces coming up. Kill each other..go on..do it.
https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/939/brutii250s25dh.th.jpg (https://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii250s25dh.jpg)
Notice my own army north west of Antioch. That was 79 Archers and 54 Equites sent to take out a single rebel Eastern Infantry unit. They did that without loss and gained a good 'Man of the Hour' (5*/2m/1i). The new general recruited all available mercenaries..including 2 two types Ive never used before. Not enough room in my fort for all these. Going to have to do some reading up on what these troops can do and send the weaker troops back to Tarsus. I want to see at least one other turn pass before I attack here...want to watch those Egyptians have a big fight over Antioch.
Dilema now is do I withdraw a spy so there is no more unrest in Antioch...and does my navy declare war and start the blockades that will help cripple Egypt. Loving this campaign.:2thumbsup:Attack Salamis! And keep Antioch as your main buffer zone.
Thats a great MoTH you got there. You'd expect big things from him!
Bombasticus Maximus
04-22-2006, 22:48
I've started again as the Seleucid Empire for some fun and I have just took all of egypt's settlements so they are no more. Here are some screenshots.
My Hoplites wait for orders.
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5355/picture0026oj.png (https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5355/picture0026oj.png)
In this one teh egyptian spearmen get taken down from far away using my horse men.
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9505/picture0036sj.png (https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9505/picture0036sj.png)
The battle take a while so the Egyptian archers decide to play a little game of who can jump the highest...
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8562/picture0041ac.th.png (https://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0041ac.png)
Heres the result it was a semi hard battle now I know why egypt take the seleucid towns quickly.
https://img485.imageshack.us/img485/7343/picture0067lc.th.png (https://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0067lc.png)
This happened which has not happened to me in a very long time. I adopted a general who now has around 6 stars...
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6172/picture0077xb.th.png (https://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0077xb.png)
Reenk Roink
04-23-2006, 00:11
Great thread...:2thumbsup:
It inspired me back to vanilla...
I always liked the feel of vanilla (even over EB :shocked:) but the lack of historical accuracy/weird AI/mediocre skins always left something to be desired.
Plus after the first 10 years, the campaigns got repetitive and boring...
Garvanko
04-23-2006, 01:11
99 million denarii, Bombasticus Maximus? A bit over the top? LOL
Thats funny, you lost all your generals except your faction leader. lucky you still have some underage grandsons.
Well these will be my last posts for a while, as I leave for basic tomorrow. Decided to play my last campaign as my favorite faction the greek cities. I abandoned all my settlements that weren't in greece and I even abandoned thermon. Went to war with macedonia and got an alliance with the brutii. Had a stalemate for awhile, trying to see if the brutii would attack macedon, I just stood around building my cities for a few years. Eventually I had to force the brutii to declare war on macedon by using them as reinforcements in the battle for larissa. My original plan was to wait for the brutii to attack macedon, cancel my alliance with the brutii and then offer an attack on the brutii in exchange for macedonia's surrender. Didn't quite work out how planned though so I had to take action.
https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7084/picture0016dc.th.jpg (https://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0016dc.jpg)
Macedon had mostly calvary, like 7 to 8 units of light lancers. A rather difficult battle figuring The only calvary I had was my general, and my reinforcements consisted of 4 units of wardogs, but some how they did manage to kill the macedonian general, the reinforcements that is.
https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8054/picture0029oh.th.jpg (https://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0029oh.jpg)
Macedon finally gave up after I took larissa and thessalonica. At first I just demanded they become my protectorate and they said "we have nothing to offer in return", a change from the usual "freedom is a precious thing and is not given up lightly". So I demanded again in the same turn, this time offering them larissa, thessalonica and 20000 denari, they accepted.
https://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5145/picture0043it.th.jpg (https://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0043it.jpg)
Garvanko
04-23-2006, 17:56
Have ended my Brutii campaign and decided to follow Telys (All the best, btw!) in trying out a mod. For starters.. Terrae Expugnandae 4.0
Hope to get some screenshots later tonight or tomorrow!
Bombasticus Maximus
04-23-2006, 18:41
99 million denarii, Bombasticus Maximus? A bit over the top? LOL
Yeah I want too see how much I can raise it too I am getting around 2000 denarii a turn. :laugh4:
Diurpaneus
04-23-2006, 22:09
Now I'm playing 2 campaigns
Here's a screenshot from my most recent
I followed a guide here on this forum and i attacked the senate,brutii and scipii in the first turns
Those carthaginians are crazy! I think that in the future they will march into Gaul
https://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6940/carthage1024x7681yb.th.jpg (https://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carthage1024x7681yb.jpg)
Bombasticus Maximus
04-23-2006, 22:38
Are you playing a mod. How did you take rome that early?
Are you playing a mod. How did you take rome that early?
Forced civil war. Multiple assassination attempts of senate family members will cause them to outlaw you, I think. It does for me.
Diurpaneus
04-23-2006, 23:21
I was right! the carthaginians are marching into the Alps, here's Hannibal followed by his sidekick general Hasdrubal LOL
https://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7366/haniballol1024x7683ix.th.jpg (https://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haniballol1024x7683ix.jpg)
I must be prepared to face him :laugh4:
Severous
04-24-2006, 00:20
Diurpaneus
Maybe Carthage should be assaulted in its weakly held cities ? And blockaded on its ports. Short of cash it couldnt replace losses from fighting the spanish and Gaul ? do you autocalculate your batles ? You seem to play fast.
Picture from my assault on Antioch. 2 Ballistea can just get in through this type of wall. For some reason I cannot target the gate until the gatehouse is destroyed. It takes a lot of time to destroy the gatehouse. I moved my Ballistea in closer once the tower was 100% destroyed...only to find it was not destroyed. Fire bolts rained down on me and before I could turn around and get out three of my four artillery pieces were destroyed.
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7360/brutii250w87cx.th.jpg (https://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii250w87cx.jpg)
My sole artillery piece fired on the gatehouse again and whilst the '100% destoyed' message remained I could see a difference..a large piece of the towers fell off. It really was destroyed now. I could move in closer to make every shot count.
So if attacking towers...make sure they really are destroyed before you get too close with something valuable.
Gained 5 new enemies this turn. Making 9 in all. The new enemies were Selecoid, Egypt, SPQR, Julii, Scipii. I dont need to worry about any of those factions do I :sweatdrop:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2607/brutii250w495fc.th.jpg (https://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii250w495fc.jpg)
I have the one remaining Selecoid town under seige. In striking distance of the last Armenian town. Have two armies posed against northern Italy and one in southern italy. Have an army seiging Messena in Sicilly (vs Brutti), forces ashore in Cyprus (Vs Egypt). Am blockading 6 ports, 1 Perthian, 2 Scippi, 3 Egyptian. Egypt will beseige Antioch over turn end and Gaul will march 2 stacks through transalpine gaul.
It really feels like 'Rome Total War'.
Started my war against the romans. My forces attack a brutii army.
https://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4671/picture0034am.th.jpg (https://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0034am.jpg)
https://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8294/picture0057zw.th.jpg (https://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0057zw.jpg)https://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3915/picture0088zk.th.jpg (https://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0088zk.jpg)https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4126/picture0092td.th.jpg (https://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0092td.jpg)
Still have yet to lose a battle.
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1799/picture0140xj.th.jpg (https://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0140xj.jpg)
Made a deal with gaul. I gave them 15000 denari to attack the julii, they still haven't after a year. I'm afraid I may have to attack them to teach them a lesson.
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3024/picture0153xv.th.jpg (https://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0153xv.jpg)
Well I'm out. I will return in 5-6 months. Hopefully this thread will still be here, but I doubt it, and if it is gone I assure you I will revive it. By then mtw 2 should be out. So farewell and good night. :bow:
Bombasticus Maximus
04-24-2006, 10:14
Forced civil war. Multiple assassination attempts of senate family members will cause them to outlaw you, I think. It does for me.
Well how because you need a assian and you don't get one at the start of the game. By the time you have one the other roman families have already expanded.
And
How do you get someone to become a protectorate and what benefits does it have?
Avicenna
04-24-2006, 16:26
Offer it to them in diplomacy. Usually you'll have to give them quite a bit of cash (large percentage of your coffers), some of the land you've taken and that should be it. They give you part of their income every turn, cannot break their alliance with you and their regions count as yours (so you control their land without having to fight them). Oh, and you have to be at war to demand they become your protectorate. They should be losing as well, otherwise they won't accept.
Garvanko
04-24-2006, 17:02
My first full campaign as Rome in the Terrae Expugnandae 4.0 Mod for RTW.
Victory conditions - hold 70 provinces including specific targets like Carthage, Macedonia, Gaul etc.
So far, ive spent the first ten years building up my forces in Italy, and trying to consolidate. I also decided to start a war with Epirus to the south - they wouldve attacked me sooner or later. Problem is, they have Elephants.
Screenshots (inc. oil slicks!)
Had a spy at Tarentum. With main enemy army (and Elephants!) down at Croton, now was the best time to attack!:idea2:
https://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7307/ambush2ct.th.jpg (https://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ambush2ct.jpg)
The Spy opened the gates when I attacked. Tarentum was taken, and on the next turn, I was able to quickly push more reinforcements to the front. Fortunately, Pyrrhus held back on any retaliation.
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3127/prrrhusarmy6la.th.jpg (https://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prrrhusarmy6la.jpg)
In the north, time to end my early Alliance with Gaul. Should I go left, or right?:juggle2:
https://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9876/2ndlegion6xg.th.jpg (https://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2ndlegion6xg.jpg)
Bombasticus Maximus
04-24-2006, 17:49
I'd say save the noble people of Genua :2thumbsup: Then take the rest of france and spain so you don't have to worry about the later on and can get quite alot of money off then which I am guessing you'll need againist the germans.
Avicenna
04-24-2006, 17:59
Take the Balkans first, they're more rewarding financially and prevent the rise of any major Greek threat. Barbarians are no problem to take out if you manage to capture the Greek money making machines.
Severous
04-24-2006, 20:20
Left or right ?
Why not both ? Enemy strength looks weak and yours is massive.
If you had the money I would consider hiring mercenaries in that turn and sending them to fight for the towns. At the least they could start the seige and build one ram for use in your main assault next turn.
Patavium, unless modded, grows big and can contribute a lot to your finances.
Garvanko
04-24-2006, 22:58
Well, I went for Patavium and Croton.
Croton I seiged it with two armies. Pyrrhus attacked, but I won the battle and took the city. Same again for Patavium - however, here, I let the AI place a large garrison in the city before seiged it for around five turns. Again, AI reinforcements arrived to relieve the seige and again I was victorious.
So now I have control the south and have a foothold in the north. Next few turns I will consolidate economically before I go for Sicily. Its largely held by rebels in the east, while Carthage has a province in the west.
Few things Ive noticed about the Mod.
1. No more spamming armies by the AI - troops generally more expensive than vanilla RTW
2. Can't recruit peasants, so Im recruiting Town Watch again for garrison duty. HOWEVER, you need a first level barracks to do so. Pays to have this in mind if you're about to seige a town which needs a garisson quickly.
3. 2nd level barracks gives you the full tech tree of Infantry - so Triarii are available right from the off. This is a GOOD thing, imo, as it leads to more balanced armies, and less spamming.
4. Recruitable Generals - Ive trained two already, both came with two stars. Im betting I can train better ones once I build academies
5. Battles last longer, and formations from DarthMod are fantastic.
Very good Mod. Recommended.
Btw: I think I'll go left and pound the Gauls a bit more. It just seems right. Taking Sicily should improve my economy. Im making about 6000d profit at the moment. Playing H/M.
Craterus
04-25-2006, 19:27
Hey Garvanko, the mod's not historically unrealistic, is it?
I don't mind too much about historical accuracy, but I like a bit in there.
UltraWar
04-25-2006, 21:13
Hi,
I've seen all the great campaigns here... and have started one of my own :laugh4:
Currently as the Brutii,
I will post some screenshots soon
Garvanko
04-25-2006, 22:51
Hey Garvanko, the mod's not historically unrealistic, is it?
No, its not.
Only major change is that there is now only one Roman faction, while the Scipii and Brutii have been converted into the Baktri (located to the east of the Seluecid Empire) and Epirus (Southern Italy and parts of Greece).
Pretty accurate historically, I think.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-25-2006, 23:21
Your best bet is to ask the person who made it.
I have started yet another fun expansion with the greek cities. Here's few screenshots.
The Spartans recieve a moral boosting general speech aand await their orders.
https://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3128/thetroopsrecieveamoralboosting.th.png (https://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thetroopsrecieveamoralboosting.png)
In go the archers to weaken the enemy.
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1746/ingothearcherstoweakentheenemy.th.png (https://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ingothearcherstoweakentheenemy.png)
The rebel hoplites come out to fight.
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9334/theycomeoutoftherecitytofight5.th.png (https://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theycomeoutoftherecitytofight5.png)
And meet the welcoming spartans.
https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5283/andmeetthewelcomingspartans8bx.th.png (https://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andmeetthewelcomingspartans8bx.png)
the Spartans kill the enemy general as he charges to his own death.
https://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1645/thespartanskilltheenemygeneral.th.png (https://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thespartanskilltheenemygeneral.png)
So the hoplites are destroyed so I send in the archers once more.
https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/750/nowthatthehoplitesaregonethere.th.png (https://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nowthatthehoplitesaregonethere.png)
The enemy respond by starting a skirmish.
https://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9981/thiscouldbealongskirmish5yn.th.png (https://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thiscouldbealongskirmish5yn.png)
Death by arrow fire. :laugh4: This one actually looks good.
https://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4852/ooof1dj.th.png (https://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ooof1dj.png)
More tomorrow maybe when I fight the house of brutii.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-25-2006, 23:23
O and something I forgot to add. How do you know if your a member do you get a PM? also how come I have not become on yet I have seen people with less posts than me and they are members.
Bastarnae
04-26-2006, 00:23
Maybe they were tracked as members by an admin.
I'm sure that you will get the membership soon
i dont think just post count matters, i think the length of time youve been a member is important too :)
Anyways, here is a screeny from what i think is my favourite campaign so far. It was played on Rome Total Realism 6.0, i played it on and off since the beginning of November and finally finished it about 3 weeks ago.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/hogkrazy/Victory.jpg
Look in the bottom left of the corner and you can see the extent of my empire. I was in the middle of a full scale war with Macedon, Carthage, Germania and the Sarmations and fighting the war on about 4 different fronts.
This was played on Hard campaign setting and Normal battle setting.
EDIT: how do i make the screeny smalelr like everyone elses?
Since completing my Gallic empire i have started a new campaign on RTR 6.3 as the Sarmations. Nothing much to report so far, squished a few rebel towns and armies and have recently been betrayed by my Thracian allies :no: so far my wrath has been rather terrible for them :2thumbsup:
Playing on V.Hard campaign, normal battles.
I'm playing Sarmies in BI myself (H/N). It's 400AD now. I sacked the Balkans before settling in Constantinople, Thessalonica and Athens. Have them under control (for this decade... but pops are creeping up again) and put together my first army of conquest (post-horde) and crossed into Ephesus, dodging rebel and Eastern Roman fleets. I had to deal with about 4 small bandit stacks just as I was about to leave. Before that I hadn't seen a one. (How do they know?)
I'm beseiging Ephesus now. It's got some nice buildings (though the culture conflicts are gonna be a pain!) so want to see what I can actually make with some of those (probably nothing, haven't experimented before as Sarmies). It will give me a base in Asia if I can keep the incoming armies from breaking the seige. I caught a couple breaks. My spy managed to catch the plague down in Sidon. So... he visited a few cities before he got well... Suddenly the Easterns had a minor civil war resulting in Ancyra and Sinope going green. Maybe others too, but had pulled my spies back to watch for incoming armies. Those two cities flipping will at least cut down the available reinforcements, and will probably draw off some armies that would have otherwise come to welcome me to Asia.
I did catch two half stacks (with my half stack) at the river crossing NE of Ephesus. The first was easy, a typical bridge engagement with horse archers (slaughter on the bridge followed by a warlord chard or seven just as the disorganized units stepped off the bridge: routsville). The second was supposed to be similar, but there were 4 faction members in the stack! And then the remnants of the first battle, about 100 of them, came back and they tried to hammer and anvil me!
They tried. I charged the bridge and wiped out the smaller force, then swam and rode across (horse archers refuse to use bridges: "boss, we don't need no steenkin brieedges!") and set up a bridge defense on the other side. The silly heavy cav made it very iffy. I got lucky and killed the general just 30 seconds after I hit withdraw to wait a season to finish them. So sounded the rally, and pulled back together in time to rout the rest. That was exciting. Losses not bad, but it sure LOOKED bad at the time. I was scattered all over the field from fleeing chargind heavy cav. I lost 50 or so to their 500. My general's unit took a pounding, was down to 8 from 25, and he actually withdrew before I rallied the rest to shoot up the now routing remnants.
My economy is still fragile (darned pirates and Eastern blockaders! Like my little rubber duckies can fight those behemoths!) I'm in the black (almost 60k still, but down from just over 80k from sacking the Balkans), but all my building is from capital. I am supporting my current army from income. If I can take Ephesus I should be able to support another army though. I should pull some more capital out of it too, but that will have to go back into it for repairs, I suspect. I like having a reserve in case I need to do some defensive bribing.
Once I take Ephesus it should get easier. I plan to head east and south to build up before taking on the Huns, Westerns and Rox for the victory settlements. I am allied with the Eastern greenies, and hope to keep them friendly at least until I'm confortably settled into Ephesus. If they are blocking my expansion path still at that point, I may swing out and grab the islands (if I can dodge the pirates!). Salamis would be a good base to tackle the eastern coast cities (rich! yum!). Sassies aren't doing much as far as I can tell. They won't sell me maps, so I'm not current on that. Must send out more spies...
Babies are a real problem. I had one during the horde years, which surprised me, and zero since I settled down to be city boys. But just built a Pai temple and got a physician and a wise woman. I'll pass those to my youngest factioners and cross my fingers for 20 turns. If nothing it's time to train generals and throw some "leaderless" troops at rebels and small forces to try to adopt some.
I wonder if all that horseback riding doesn't affect male fertility in a negative fashion...
Hmm, I can see Ephesus has Kydonia as a trading partner. Guess I will have to take that next. Should be easy, pirate doging aside. Think I can make it from Athens in one season, just have to time it for clear seas.
Okay, back in the saddle. I must restore my beloved Sarmies to their rightful fatherland (with a few bonus territories to serve as a buffer against future invasions, of course!)
402AD and getting tense. There's a parade of Eastern armies passing Tarsus heading north. Hope they are aiming for the rebel cities! But had to beat back another small stack at the bridge (with a quarter stack I threw together with my long-in-the-tooth faction leader, Rumo the Cunning, and snuck across the Bosporus under cover of darkness) and a second smallish army should jump me this season... that makes 4 total so far. 4 more seasons for Ephesus to fall (What? Seige gear? That requires hikers! We're horsemen!). I don't seen anymore within 3 seasons walk or so.
Meanwhile, I just saw two Western Roman stacks turn up in the Sidon-Antioch corridor! (And the plague died out, darn it!) They are allied with the Easterns, but don't appear to be at war with anyone in the eastern Med... Dunno what's up with that. I'm at peace with them... so far. They don't seem to be coming my way. May be heading east to hit the Sassies at Hatra (I hope!) They are not at war with them yet though.
If I can get Ephesus, I can do some recruiting and be back at full strength for any more incoming. It's pretty big though, not sure I can occupy it without rebellion even if I make a neat little (compared to Mongols!) pile of skulls in the city square. I may have to beseige it again. But one season of recruiting will help.
And the plague turned up in Constantinople. Mixed curse. Pop was getting out of hand, but it's also my main production center so have to put unit building on hold for the moment. Don't want to spread it.
I see a full stack of Goths to the north too (we're allied though... at least I think we are!) They actually managed to hold their ancestral settlement, or take it back fast. The Vandals and Huns got into it pretty big, I think. I'd allied with the Vandals as I fled the Hun hordes. The Vandals only hold one region as far as I can tell, Arles. Hope they hang in there to keep some attention away from me. (Hard to get maps out of even friends now, and I hate paying for them when my denarii stream is flowing downhill like a waterfall.)
The Huns are parked in Sirmium, and nowhere else as far as I can see, so I will have to root them out at some point. Just saw three mini armies head towards Thessalonica, and me with everything but garrisons in Asia! But I THINK they are heading for a bandit army that's been just on their side of the border for years. I'm at peace with them and hope to stay that way. If not it will be scramble time.
Treasury under 50k now, erk. (had to repair the expensive city plumbing in Constantinople since I can't afford for the plague to last too long).
Well, no factioners in the Hun mini armies, so I can always resort to denarii.
.. I hope. Hunny, could I interest you in some money?
No babies. I never thought I'd want babies so badly...
BHCWarman88
04-26-2006, 02:53
my Seleciud Empire is Fighting like Heck againt the Egyptians and Pontus.. I had 1 General unit,40 or so guys in it(pretty good gen) and he kill 360 men out of a 610 or a 618 army.. Sassdians are fighting a bloody War against the Eastern Roman Empire..I got some cool shots to post later..
BHCWarman88
04-26-2006, 02:56
btw,I love that "neck" screenshots,god,that must hurt..
I had a guy get hit and do a backflip just as the Vic Screen came up,jsut it hurts when you got to stay in that postion in a Vic Screnn,lol.
Avicenna
04-26-2006, 08:02
Congrats Wishazu! I think membership is decided by how active, useful, friendly and contributing you are. Not just any spammer who stays here for a week will get membership, will they?
Bombasticus Maximus
04-26-2006, 23:10
btw,I love that "neck" screenshots,god,that must hurt..
I had a guy get hit and do a backflip just as the Vic Screen came up,jsut it hurts when you got to stay in that postion in a Vic Screnn,lol.
That to me?
It's 413AD and ERE REALLY is mad at me still:
https://img274.imageshack.us/img274/4738/00029ei.th.jpg (https://img274.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00029ei.jpg)
A season or two behind that is another, with even more camels than this one, and behind that a third. I tried to take Ancyra, but the swarm began, so fell back to the bridge again.
This was the result of that first battle:
https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9859/00034aj.th.jpg (https://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00034aj.jpg)
Fortunately, Ephesus is a season south. So as long as they only come once a year I can rebuild my beat up Alan Noble Cav and recruit a few replacement horse archers.
And what I love about this faction... here's a small action in the hinterlands of Macedonia against three units of heavy infantry:
https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4343/00001hm.th.jpg (https://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00001hm.jpg)
And the result of that:
https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3679/00010nc.th.jpg (https://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00010nc.jpg)
Still haven't won a campaign with them, but I keep coming back for more. Doing the best that I ever have this time, but think the clock is gonna run out on me. I hold 5 territories. The Goth horde (re-horded!) is beseiging Salona, the Huns are settled into Sirmium, the Sassies hold Kotais, and beyond that I still need 7 more territories.
Garvanko
04-27-2006, 10:36
The third shot is great, vonsch. Might go back to BI once I finish my Roman campaign in RTW TE 4.0.
O and something I forgot to add. How do you know if your a member do you get a PM? also how come I have not become on yet I have seen people with less posts than me and they are members.
There is no membership ceremony at all. Basically, one day you will notice that you suddenly have a membertag under you name. Like Tiberius said, promotion is not based on postcount but on participation. All that is required is a bit of patience, and that you post regularly in a friendly and helpfull manner. Spamming will, at best, delay promotion.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-27-2006, 16:35
Ok I am thinking that I will become a member as I have not spammed or been unhelpful. :2thumbsup:
Avicenna
04-27-2006, 16:45
I'm sure you will bombasticus. ~:)
Ludens: I got a PM from Kukri when I was promoted though, and it seemed automated to me.
My RTR Sarmations campaign is going well at the moment, no screenies yet(i dunno how to make em small like everyone else). I have 2 standing armies, 1 occupying a newly conquered city on my extreme eastern frontier and the other occupying a newly conquered city(formerly Thracian) in the west.
Back in the East my Armenian allies have sent a half stack army through my territory(they can only intend to betray me) my local commander in the nearest city hastily recruited a few mercenary units to hold the only chokepoint before the city of Campus Allanni- a bridge. The two armies have feaced off for a few turns so far, it appears the Armenians are unwilling to betray me so i may have to attack them in order to remove them from my territory :(
Back in the west i have a small raiding party of 2 Hippeis Toxotai (Horse archers) moving about mopping up small armies of thracians trying to reinforce their now faltering frontier with me. These guys are heroes :P these two units who started as totally raw with no upgrades at all have fought about 7 battles against enemy forces, sometimes being outnumbered as much as 8-1 but always winning and so far not a single man from each of these armies has survived :) both units now have double silver chevrons.
The last thing that happened before i saved last night was Macedonia attacking me by blockading a few of my black sea ports.... gits!!!
Eyeswater
04-27-2006, 19:43
Best campaign so far is my current Brutii one.
First time round with RTW I played the Jullii faction and then didnt go back to the Roman factions till now and must say this Brutii campaign has pleasantly surprised me.
I had gained control of Appollonia and Salona quickly and then rushed south down the Greek coast to besiege and capture Thermon as requested by the Senate and from there I could see Athens and Sparta were lightly defended by the Greek Cities, so I scrambled together what forces I could to lay siege on them before my Macedonian allies could make a grab for them from either Thessalonica or Corinth.
Once those objectives were met I slowed things down on the expansion front and settled down to build up my holdings and to reorganise my troops when Thrace declared war on Macedon. Initially I refused a Macedonian plea for involvement in the fray but a turn or 2 later I reconsidered as Thrace seemed to be getting the better of Macedon and the last thing I wanted was a powerful and expanding neighbour.
I sent off my 2 full stacks north from the Athens/Sparta area, where they'd been retrained etc, and headed towards Bylazora which the Thracian barbarians had taken from Macedon and once arrived one army lay siege to the city whilst the other took the field against the other Thracian army outside the city walls and destroyed it...utterly! The victorious Generals reward was a long march toward Tyldis, more on that in a moment.
Whilst my armies had moved north and egaged the Thracians, I had begun quickly building more troops in Southern Greece and also Tarentum and Croton (a quick ferry trip over to Apollonia etc) in order to ensure a steady stream of reinforcements for the battles against Thrace when my spy in Larissa "informed" me of the lack of a Macedonian garrison while another spy in Corinth related the state of affairs concerning its defences.
This information gave rise to a great deal of thought on how I should proceed, should I stab my ally in the back with the very troops that were initially built to come to their aid or should I ignore this "gift" right in front of my eyes and press on northwards to crush the Thracians totally.
Unashamedly, I opted for the former and marched a couple of detachments of Town Watch into Larissa to lay claim to the city in the name of BrutiiRome~;) and the freshly raised Army originally bound for the north stormed through the opened gates of Corinth!
Round about the same time as I made my decision to take on my erstwhile ally, the army that earlier marched towards Tyldis had finally arrived and had as expected laid siege to the city trapping a 3/4 Thracian stack led by the Faction leader no less. Things were looking good despite now fighting 2 enemies, my former allies were in disarray and Bylazora had just been stormed
and taken from the Thracians and with Tyldis under siege I thought I had the time required to reorganise the victorious armies in Bylazora and Corinth for redeployment but alas the myth of Brutii invincibility was crushingly shattered by a large Thracian host who came to the relief of their King.
The army outside Tyldis broke off the siege but were cornered and had no option but to fight the two large bloodthirsty Thracian hosts. The legionaries resigned themselves to a last stand after a stirring speech by Decius Brutus, their General, and postioned themselves for the storm ahead. This brave legion fought like lions and only under the sheer weight of numbers did they give way to their revenge seeking foes. Decius Brutus was last seen charging into the mass of the Thracian horde and died like the true Roman he was!
This defeat and the complete destruction of the army suddenly left the decision to attack Macedon look a little hasty although the denarii from the capture and extermination of the populace helped finance the raising of more troops from the Greek peninsula to try and regain the momentum that was stopped at Tyldis. In the short term this was achieved by the new troops marching north from the recruiting grounds in Greece and conquering Thessalonica only to see the Thracians besiege Bylazora!
A relief force was hastily assembled from what troops I could spare from Thessalonica and those just landed near Apollonia and dispatched to end the "Thracian problem" at Bylazora.
As one problem was solved another would rear its ugly head, Macedon launched a counter offensive towards Thessalonica, putting the city under siege and defeating the heroes of Bylazora who were sent from the relief of one siege to the relief of another and ultimately defeat. Disaster was looming and troop production and the construction of military buildings across Brutii holdings was sent into overdrive to try and avert the grave danger facing the faction.
The next army to march north to relief Thessalonica reached its destination and attacked the besieging Macedonians and had learned its lessons well from the previous engagement. Thessalonica was saved at the bell!
Macedon was finished as a military power with this defeat and it was only after a short period of reorganization of the legions that Macedon was destroyed completely after the fall of their last province of Byzantium.
I now had more than enough troops in the general area to finally go after the remaining Thracians and their eradication coincided with the death of my faction leader.
It was at this point I realised the heir, or rather new leader, was getting on a bit himself and would really only be a short lived reign so I perused the family tree to see what my options were in terms of the new heir. Upon looking thru the family tree I noticed a young chap called Caius Brutus who had better "prospects" than the current new heir and was of reasonable age to give long service to the Brutii as leader upon the death of the stop gap Leader.
And so it came to be that Augustus Brutus,Governor of Larissa was disinherited for Caius as faction heir and within a matter of years Caius took control of the Brutii faction in his own right and presided over the most momentous events in the history of the Brutii faction in a 30+ year reign.
to be continued...
~:wave:
Severous
04-27-2006, 20:39
Summer of 249 BC
- Break the Egyptian army besiging Antioch
- Destroy the Seleucid faction by capture of Hatra
- Capture Cyprus from Egypt
- Capture Messana from a dog garrison
- Capture Arrentium from the Julii
- Destroy last Egyptian fleet
- Bash 3 rebel armies
https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6237/brutii249s66vv.th.jpg (https://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249s66vv.jpg)
UltraWar
04-27-2006, 21:02
whoa Severous!
i wish i could take up a all-out take over of everything.
i can't wait to see more of your campaign! :2thumbsup:
Ok I am thinking that I will become a member as I have not spammed or been unhelpful. :2thumbsup:
Yes, I think you will be a member quite soon as well.
Ludens: I got a PM from Kukri when I was promoted though, and it seemed automated to me.
This is probably because all .Org administrators are androids.
Hey all, ~:thumb:
I havn't played Rome Total War for quite a while now but a few hours ago I decided to give it a try again, so I downloaded the Terrae Expugnandae mod (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=63674) and I must say that for me, that mod blows all other mods out of the water.
Anyways, I have just started a campaign as the Carthaginians (Hard campaign difficulty, Medium battle difficulty) and things seem to be going well even at this early stage. I have kicked the Rebels off of Sicily and built up my settlements on Sicily in case any Romans decide to land their. However I havn't yet built up any form of a Navy and the few ships I did start with were all obliterated by large and numerous Rebel fleets.
https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4659/screencapture0023gv.th.jpg (https://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencapture0023gv.jpg)
https://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7874/screencapture0033gm.th.jpg (https://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencapture0033gm.jpg)
https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9720/screencapture0055cu.th.jpg (https://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencapture0055cu.jpg)
As far as diplomacy goes I am currently allied with Egypt, Dacia, The Thracians, Numidia, and The Greeks (whom I am constantly giving money to in order to help them in their war against Macedon). I was also allied with Iberia until they betrayed me in 262BC so now I am making them severely pay for their betrayal.
https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9417/screencapture0045le.th.jpg (https://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencapture0045le.jpg)
https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6300/screencapture0015ha.th.jpg (https://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencapture0015ha.jpg)
That's all that's happening at the minute but I'll keep you updated.
Nice to see you back on total war Taurus, even if it is just a campaign :)
Post something on our forums about this mod mate, it looks interesting...
Garvanko
04-28-2006, 23:34
The Terrae Expugnandae mod is great. Ive gone pretty far in my Roman campaign. I now hold the whole of Sicily, Caralis, northern Italy and have also kicked the Epirots off southern Italy and back to Greece.
Ive also just taken Carthage.
Here's a screenshot of a battle defending the bridge at Carthage, from the angry Carthaginians. i did take their capital, after all!
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3117/bridgedefence8lb.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bridgedefence8lb.jpg)
And they rout. As expected.:no:
https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6243/routing5hc.th.jpg (https://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=routing5hc.jpg)
I have an Alliance with Macedon so I may wait a while before trying to take Greece. Right now Im going to focus on consolidating my grip on Africa, and taking on the Gauls - finally!
Bombasticus Maximus
04-28-2006, 23:55
I want a challenge when playing an unmodded version of RTW who do you think I should be?
Garvanko
04-28-2006, 23:58
Play the Spanish.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-28-2006, 23:59
Now thats a challenge. I will start tomorrow on medium/medium as I don't do well on the money side. Which way shall I go into france or africa?
Craterus
04-29-2006, 00:01
Expanding into Gaul is more fun. In my opinion.
Bombasticus Maximus
04-29-2006, 00:03
I will also do that. :laugh4: Yeah that'd be hard for me too as numidia are a big push over at the start of the game.
Well, I suspended the Sarmie campaign and started one with the Roxolani. The victory conditions are just 10 territories, with the same 3 the Sarmies need. The Rox start off a bit farther away from the rich goodness of the west, but 6 less territories has got to make it easier, right? Oh, and their starting army is about 50% lighter: and no horse archers. The horde is about the same size as the Sarmie one though, and that's mostly what matters.
The Huns ran me north and west, rather than my south path. That means I got to Italy 5 years later than I'd planned. And lots of factions wanted my scalp. "Get in line at the bridge, guys!" :help:
I took Rome, Tarrentum and Ravenna, but less than optimally. To avoid major population issues, I sacked each twice first. That cost me about a decade. I should have started with Rome, not Ravenna, but it worked out. Ravenna is pagan, so it's easier to deal with. And it's right there on Route 66 in sight of all the Friday night horde cruises.
My plan to stick to an all female field force is working out nicely. Virgin horse archers really are every bit as good for my purposes. The Virgin cav takes more casualties than the Alan Noble does, but not significantly more. And I only need a level 1 stable to retrain the Virgies.
The WRE went over easily. They are in serious trouble at the moment. (And more than they know!) The Goths ended up in Gaul and after a long nice-nice trade association (I was allied with the wrong guys to ally with them... heh, time to dump the Huns though, they got clobbered), they pulled a sneak attack on Mediolanium while I was engaged heavily with the Franks and Alemanni. The latter never made peace with me and grabbed Medio while I was settling into the boot. It was my first post settlement conquest. The I pushed up to Augusta figuring to make that the cork in the northern pass. So the Franks, who were my allies, decide to betray me and beseiged Augusta. That didn't last long, my conquering army was in the pass still.
I killed off two of their armies, then took Vicus Alemanni, which they had taken from the Ale, exterminated it, destroyed every building that I could and abandoned it. The Ale moved back in. Fine with me, am in the process of killing them off so that's gonna be their last city. :skull:
They built an army that's sitting right there on my border too. Fear me!
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7806/fearme3vt.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fearme3vt.jpg)
I can't wait to meet that one. My girls will whup some big time! :2thumbsup: Rednecks are such sweet targets... Tease them awhile with approach-avoidance all the while needling them with arrows... then crush them with an all out charge. :laugh4:
But am finishing off the eastern end of their small empire. Here's the scene in front of their last BIG city (relatively speaking, at least):
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5497/killzone2wi.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=killzone2wi.jpg)
Carnuntum. Think that means meat market. :inquisitive: At least it's about meat, and that a lot of meat in front of the main gate. Front and center is a couple of girl troops doing a victory swirl.
Campus Quadi, a real backwater is under siege now. They actually had a decent army just outside that tried to lift the siege. That was nice; gave the girls a chance to warm up.
Oh, yeah, the Goths... Crushed their two half stacks and mopped up the remnants in the NW pass. Plugged that with a fort with virgin archer unit. Three horse archers are camping the bridge just north of Massilia now. That's a sweet sieging spot. :2thumbsup: I'm hoping the Goths try to break the siege. At least I think I am. Not much in sight. They might manage 2:1 odds if they throw everything in. That might use up all my arrows and make me retreat. But the rest of the stack that cleaned up the odds and ends will be there within a year. Massilia has a dock. I covet docks. Three (count em) trade routes! I can only build ports. And Massilia is wonderfully defensible, so iit will anchor my western border when I turn east for the named territories.
The economy is tighter than I lilke. I had over 100k denarii after settling. It's bleeding away now. I'm hoping for two 2/3 stacks for defense, and a full one for the expedition to Kotais. The ERE is strong. I have no map information on that side so far, but I am swapping most adavanced with them, and they are number one on the power charts.
So, after more than a decade of peaceful relations with the WRE, I am gonna slap them around a bit. These are just TOO tempting...
https://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7141/trust11fr.th.jpg (https://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trust11fr.jpg)
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/17/trust26nh.th.jpg (https://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trust26nh.jpg)
You can see that from my lastest info that will leave them with part of Spain. I haven't seen much in the way of navies of theirs lately, so should be able to nab the island with ease, and minor forces (and spies!), then garrison them reasonably, boost my income, and hit the Sarmies who hold Aquincum and Salona. Just have to keep the Goths and Franks off my western and northwestern frontiers.
I may actually finish a campaign! :balloon2: Or maybe I'm dreaming.
Hey, I decided to give EB a go so I started a game as Makedonia on vh/m. Here's my empire so far:
https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5879/makedoncampaign9kt.th.jpg (https://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=makedoncampaign9kt.jpg)
Right now I'm trying to secure the Aegean Sea and the rest of the Balkan peninsula. I've already destroyed one of my biggest rivals, Koinon Hellenon, and my other main rival, Epirus, is down to one settlement in Illyria and another in southern Italy.
I'm currently building up a force in Rhodes to invade Asia Minor and take a couple of rebel settlements. I'm not planning on attacking the Seleucids, though, because they're my only ally.
Once my position is secure, with all of Greece and the Balkans completely under my control, I plan to devote most of my resources to a war against the Ptolemies, which I plan to kick off by dropping a full stack of my best troops at Alexandria, instantly crippling them.
After Egypt is out of the way, I plan to either betray the Seleucids and take all of Asia Minor for myself, or I'll strike Rome and take Italy. I haven't decided which yet.:shrug:
I'm having a great time, this mod is great. Everyone should try it out.:2thumbsup:
Avicenna
04-29-2006, 07:41
Wlecome Neco ~:wave:
Definitely do NOT go for Asia Minor. You don't want bad relations with the Seleukids, and you need to take out the Romans before they seriously threaten your lands. By the time you've wiped out Rome, the Seleukids will probably be weaker anyway, due to attack from all sides. Then you should pounce.
EDIT: a few tips. If you want to surprise the Ptolemies, don't attack Halikarnassos, because this provokes war with them and they'll probably strike your ports before you even have Halikarnassos. If you're bordering the Seleukids, you'll attract them as well, and the chance of being backstabbed are very high. There also might be provinces that provoke war with them. So, heed my advice and take Italia first.
I was planning on giving an update for my campaign but I was forced to reformat my comp last night and so, lost all my save games. Anyway I shall be starting a new campaign very soon...
Avicenna
04-29-2006, 13:50
Start an EB campaign! It's far more challenging, and not just spamming troops to rebel cities as quickly as possible.
The pony hordes ride on!
Three of of my virgin horse archer units took Massilia solo last night by accident :inquisitive: I'd parked them on the bridge just northeast and beseiged the city. There was the faction heir inside, and a couple peasant units and remnants of gothic raiders or something, and a stack of a couple more peasant units and something else where just outside to the south. I was figuring on just getting the seige counter running, and on provoking some reaction so my big stack (a whole half stack!) coming within a turn or two could defend the northwest bridge against the bulk of Goth troops.
Hah! :oops: The garrison sallied first season. I had 163 virgin horse archers (, 3 units plus captain... okay, they all had silver weapons and 3+ copper chevrons too) against 500+ incoming (though mostly peasants). The problems were two: the faction heir and his heavy cav and arrow count. I got lucky since half (and the junkier half, 3 fresh peasant units) were reinforcements coming from the back of the city around my left side. I camped the north gate and demolished thed remnant units and couple of peasants from inside before the faction heir came around the left side (too, but solo). Then I parked the three units up on the hill on the left looking down on the approach. We played chase-the-horsies for a long time. Every time the heir would charge one unit, the other two would close from behind. He was in a U with the top facing the bottom of the hill. He wore out fast, and those rear and flank shots gradually wore him down. Killed every last one of 30+. And burned 50% of my total arrows on that alone! I was down to about 25% ammo left with three more peasant units coming. :help:
I really thought it was gonna be my first loss at that point. (Heh, my Roxolani hadn't built a boat yet, that's a sure way to see some battles lost! They have since... :shame: ) Back onto the hill. The enemy general was dead, the peasants were already tired (my girls were winded), so I turned off fire at will and just ran them up and down the hill a while :2thumbsup: . Then I shot up the captain unit first and routed that. A few shots into each of the last two and my ammo bars were solid grey. Normally I retreat in that situation. This time I decided what the heck and strung out the two units and charged them fore and rear. Instant routs :2thumbsup: .
My losses: 1 girl. (Must have been some girl-on-girl shots, but they were only flesh wounds. I see the enemy got one kill, but the results shows more than one missing from the remaining.)
https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4346/masslia9lp.th.jpg (https://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=masslia9lp.jpg)
No Woman of the Hour though, darn it! I want a female general! (Not that they exist... but at least the troops do have femala voices)
I barely had enough troops to garrison Massilia until I could build some. On low taxes I squeezed into the blue after massacring the population.
But then the real fun started.
Me: :laugh4: Goths: :wall:
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7139/massiliabridge18hz.th.jpg (https://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=massiliabridge18hz.jpg)
https://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9267/massiliabridge24li.th.jpg (https://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=massiliabridge24li.jpg)
I suppose Massilia WAS their main troop production center. Gee, such a shame :shame:
I didn't know they HAD that many armies. I think I've fought four battles at the northwest bridge now. Fortunately, I can stack up my girls so only one or two beat up units needs repairing, and Massilia can take care of that. But the Virgie cav takes a pounding, so I tend to have only half my two units of that pretty often. But the one foot archer (Virgins, of course!) I brought up to shoot fire arrows at the bridgehead really helps. Did get a Man of the Hour out of one of those battles, at least. I need to send Trdat back to Rome for some gear upgrades! :oops: He sure deserves a break.
Meanwhile, as you can see from the second minimap, Sicily has fallen. What a walkover! I pushed in two spies and tried to besiege with two foot archer and a runaway slave unit. Even with walls I guess no garrison means the population just opens the gates. Never even saw the siege screen. Of course, I still massacred them. Only way I could garrison the place. :sweatdrop: Sardinia fell the same way one year later. Poor WRE is really hurting. After Sardinia fell some fleets turned up, and I saw one one-season blockade so far. But the capture of the trade routes attached to those to cities gives me control of a lot of trade internally. WRE looks to be only in 3 Spanish provinces now. And the Goth are under pressure from the Franks to the north and lil ol me and my girls. I predict the Goths will kill off WRE.
I'm just holding my western frontier now. The Sarmies have stuck their oar in. As I was defending the bridge, they marched 2 half stacks in from Salone and Aquincum. The were heading for Messana, then both of them turned to jump my half stack coming back from Alemanni lands to the northeast. They jumped him in the pass which meant he got great defensive terrain, which was nice since this was a Sarmie army (same troops as mine!). But they were lightish on horse archers and arrows really chew up light cav. Since it was two half stacks, I took a ridgetop and defeated them in detail. Then I pursued the remnants out into their lands. Have been taking out their armies as I can with an eye on Salona and Aquincum.
After that it's the long trip to Kotais. ERE rules out there. Sassies appear to be in trouble. Not sure who holds Kotais yet, and am very leery of trying a boat trip.
Garvanko
04-29-2006, 21:10
Roxolani campaign sounds like fun!
I left my Roman Republic campaign, decided to start a Greek one.
The cost of units in this mod is so expensive. Principes cost as much as Legionary Cohorts in vanilla RTW, while retraining a General costs at least 1200 denarii, while your cheapest units - Town Watch - are 390 denarii. Best have a Governor with unit training discounts if you want to build an army.
The Greek campaign is going well so far. Naturally, Macedon has been the biggest problem, and those early battles were hard fought - especially for larissa. But I stemmed the tide, and am now making money and training Armoured Hoplites (surely the most cost effective infantry unit in RTW). One thing I do hate though, is the constant blockading of ports. Macedon, even on their last legs, won't let up. Does wonders for training my Admirals, though!
Not like his father? Apparently, the son of the Faction Leader is a bad seed. You be the judge..
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7871/notlikehisson3zt.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=notlikehisson3zt.jpg)
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As soon as I take Pella, I'll focus my energy on the Epirus faction.
The cost of units in this mod is so expensive. Principes cost as much as Legionary Cohorts in vanilla RTW, while retraining a General costs at least 1200 denarii, while your cheapest units - Town Watch - are 390 denarii. Best have a Governor with unit training discounts if you want to build an army.
Which mod is that, EB? I am running RTW/BI Gold which limits the mods I can run severely for those. I'm eagerly awaiting RTR's release to support me.
My Rox campaign continues, but getting slow. I am fighting 5 battles or so a season now. One or two with Goths at the bridge (they keep coming!), a couple with the Sarmies who don't like me :sweatdrop: and the silly Alemanni did not know when to give up! I was willing to take them under my arm, but no....
Instead the insist on besieging my northern cities and forts with stacks of peasants! Sheesh. Can you say slaughterhouse? (I knew you could!) But the did slip in a couple units of Lombardi Berserkers in their all out attempt to lift my retaliatory siege on their last town. I was gonna give them one last chance to give in, but they insisted on tearing into me the second turn of an eight year siege. So now I have two crappy cities I don't want or need. They are just defensive problems.
But I have a plan if I can make diplomacy work. The Franks are sorta doing well, though we're neutral for now. They attacked me once earlier and it cost them a city (which the Alemanni picked up when I abandoned it, and so I just got it back!). They are allied with the Goths, and I need them off my back too. Meanwhile, the Lombardii are fighting the Franks and not doing great. Since it's long odds I can do anything between the Franks and Goths (but may try anyway), I may try to get the Lombardii to ally with me and attack the Franks in return for one or more of those two provinces.
I really prefer spies to diplomats though. Maybe I should just train about 10 assassins and send them on a sabotage spree in Goth and (pre-emptively) in the Franks turf too. Then I can focus on the Sarmies. Aquincum and Salona are ripe for the picking, if I can get a few years off. The Sarmies have worn themselves down against my 70 year old faction heir and his girls. Only a half stack, but they have done well, depsite taking a lot more casualties than I usually do. Darned horse archers! Wish the Sarmies would go on a slave roll...
Only *I* should have horse archers! :2thumbsup:
I lost my first major battle to them outside Aquincum. I pursued the remnants of a stack and ended up next to the city. They sallied the garrison, threw in a half stack that was close, plus (to add insult to injury), threw in the remnants I'd chased! It was better than 2:1 and they had Alans and Armored Sarmie HAs against my Virgies, and Alan heavy cav (along with a bit of Virgie light and bodyguards) against my one old general and two Virgie Cav. I ran out of arrows and room, and withdrew. But it cost them 1000 dead, to my 100 :2thumbsup:. I was on the defense and I was on top of a hill. I hear they are calling it a Pyrric victory or something. :oops:
They sent another stack to besiege Ravenna, but it has epic walls and a decent garrison. I think I can burn the towers. Have four 3 exp archers in there and lots of slaves for wall fodder. But if they don't assault soon, I will have my faction heir and his army back in 2 turns (assuming he lives so long!)
Darned WRE is blockading me again. Guess I have to try to sink some. That really cuts into my income (not that my governors don't all have bad habits already).
I'm up to 11 provinces, but I still need the 3 specified to meet the victory conditions. Fighting all these battles takes forever, but I refuse to autoresolve!
Garvanko
04-29-2006, 23:38
Which mod is that, EB? !No, Terrae Expugnandae. Im going to try EB or RTR in a few weeks, though.
Severous
04-29-2006, 23:49
Summer of 249 BC continued from previous post.
- Capture Ariminum from Julii
- Bash another set of rebels. Gaining man of the Hour
- Win a 1Bireme vs 1Bireme naval battle vs Perthia
- Defend against Armenian attack
The battle for Ariminum
https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4404/brutii249s105nv.th.jpg (https://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249s105nv.jpg)
"I think they are dead men" Ballistea being charged down behind enemy lines.
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You can also see on the map the two infantry units running around the outside of the city. Looking for an undefended way in though the gates opened by spies.
"It will be a kick up the toga" Equite decides a spear up the toga will work better. The 9* Julii General Amulius Julius is going down.
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/275/brutii249s132tx.th.jpg (https://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249s132tx.jpg)
The large Julii relief force was cut down by Brutii troops stationed on top captured walls.
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Armenian army chose to fight in the mountian pass rather than try and break the seiged of its only town.
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/135/brutii249s150xb.th.jpg (https://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249s150xb.jpg)
904 Brutii v 920 Armenians at 5:4 odds.
Had several infantry fights. Three velites attacking one Eastern Infantry unit is soon over.
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One cavalry fight. Taking down the Armenian general.
https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1743/brutii249s186cs.th.jpg (https://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249s186cs.jpg)
No Armenian excaped that battlefield
Wlecome Neco ~:wave:
Definitely do NOT go for Asia Minor. You don't want bad relations with the Seleukids, and you need to take out the Romans before they seriously threaten your lands. By the time you've wiped out Rome, the Seleukids will probably be weaker anyway, due to attack from all sides. Then you should pounce.
EDIT: a few tips. If you want to surprise the Ptolemies, don't attack Halikarnassos, because this provokes war with them and they'll probably strike your ports before you even have Halikarnassos. If you're bordering the Seleukids, you'll attract them as well, and the chance of being backstabbed are very high. There also might be provinces that provoke war with them. So, heed my advice and take Italia first.
I've decided to heed your words of wisdom and avoid Asia Minor for now.
Because of that decision, I've pulled most of my troops out of Rhodes and landed them back in Greece.
I haven't accomplished much more, besides taking the Epirote's second-to-last settlement, leaving them with one in Italy. Some strong armies are defending it though, so I'm just going to let Rome take care of them, and then I'll pounce on them.
Until that happens, I'm going to work on expanding my northern border a little. Just enough to leave an Eleutheroi buffer between me and the Getai.:2thumbsup:
Severous
04-30-2006, 12:11
My first Brutii campaign on RTW V1.5 (No Mods) has finished.
Winter of 249BC
- Destroyed the Armenian faction. 3000+ men battle. A wardog unit killed 447 !
- Sink a Perthian Bireme
- Capture Sidon from Egypt killing the faction heir Ptahhotep in his Archer Chariot in the process
- Beat the Scipii in a naval battle
- Kill rebels east of Patavium
- Capture Capua from Scipii
"There are a few more of them than there are of us. So what !"
https://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5665/brutii249w12cn.th.jpg (https://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249w12cn.jpg)
A rare "close victory" as I choose to end the battle after capturing the plaza and holding it for 3 minutes. The Scipii reinforcements retreated to the temporary safety of Rome.
- "There stands the army of the Roman Senate....Destroy them"
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6641/brutii249w448ia.th.jpg (https://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249w448ia.jpg)
"Your victory is Complete"
That was one of my most enjoyable battles. Thinking of posting a battle account with 30 screenshots from that battle.
- Capture Rome
"The sun has risen......now Kill them All"
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8812/brutii249w757ol.th.jpg (https://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brutii249w757ol.jpg)
That was three battles in one. A lot easier than the previous one where all the enemy was on the battlefield from the outset.
VICTORY
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limitedwhole
04-30-2006, 15:23
My best campaign was in vanilla with the Brutii. I am trying teh same campaign again now on 1.5. The bribe increase is a pain in teh first few turns but you can usually sqeeze them out with advance diplomacy and loans form your roman allies. What really is a pain is the rebel fleets which never seem to lose a battle and just absolutely hate you.
They end up witha beautiful empire which can be forged in just 40 turns, hold all teh senate offices, and all the cool wonders.
not being able to bribe a roman general early is pain as I used to use Gaeus scipii to fight the Gauls up north, but I have been finding a work around with Cassius Brutus although it is way harder. You really are dependant on the Julii sending armies up in to Gaul on a steady basis to whittle them down. Get an agreement with them to attack teh Gauls and they will send a main battle army up and inflict some major casulaties rather then seding up a few weak armies which just retreat. Anyway, Brutii have a kickarse empire, which is made lightning quick. You can average 1.5 territories taken per turn. Now thats speed. i barely have time to get a full roman legion into combat. i use one in the civil war and ship one to Egypt to meet up with Amulius. i do have problems with Amulius getting bogged down in Jerusaleum though. I think I need to get the seleucids to attack and maybe finance them for 5 turns or so before so they can build a kick but army to draw fire away from me.
Severous
04-30-2006, 16:55
Gaul was an enemy in that Brutii camaign. Not a serious problem and merely a holding action against them as I expanded east rather than west. Gaul was allied to Julii for the early game and pushed down the adratic to attack my Brutii held Salona in winter 262. It was Amulus Brutus who led the sally forth and destruction of the barbarian Gauls in summer 261
Later it was Senate missions that took Brutii into further battle against the Gaul...taking Patavium, Mediolonium, Massila from them. Countering those Gaul for years in northern Italy trained up my Brutii forces. Had some 2 and 3 silver experience units to form the backbone of my army when Roman civil war broke out.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-01-2006, 09:47
I started with spain but there so bad they kept getting sieged from gaul so i quit and started with thrace.
Garvanko
05-01-2006, 10:14
You needed to get an Alliance with Gaul early first (absolutely the first thing - before Carthage does!), so you could concentrate on kicking Carthage out of the Iberian Peninsular. Corduba is absolutely vital for your early economy, so taking it should be your top priority. After that, just build up your forces, and get ready for the battle with Gaul for Numantia. Keep Osca heavily garrisoned as well in case the Julii show up by sea, and build a fort at the northern pass to cut off Gaul's access to Iberia. Get trade and map from anyone willing. Take Palma and Tingi. The rest is up to you.
I think Spain is great to play because their temples give excellent experience and morale bonuses to your troops, which makes battles easier to win.
In any case, theyre much easier and much more fun than Thrace! Read some of the guides and see how others went about the early phase of the campaign.
limitedwhole
05-01-2006, 13:14
Hey Severous, did you try trying to breaek the GAul Julii alliance with diplomacy. it might cost some cash, but having the Julii trade with them will expand their production capacity. How did you manage to get all those armies up their? It sounds like you had Amulius double back? Did you reinforce by ship or turn one of the taken Gaul territories into a military producer. Just curious. What to do about the Gauls is a current debacle for me. In general I try to keep all the other empires too small to try and take any aggressive action againct me. This usually allows me to dictate the actions. But the Gauls have so many people, sqeezing them economically and territorywise just doesn't work. They just keep coming.
Severous
05-01-2006, 19:01
Hi limitedwhole
- I thought about diplomacy to break Julii/Gaul alliance. But didnt want to spend my money that badly on it. It wasnt necessary anyway. Gaul attacked me or I attacked them. The Roman Julii alliance with my Brutti faction was strong so Julii went to war with Gaul when ever I did.
- Expanding my regions fast into rich Greece provided money for constant military growth. By 262 I had 7 generals, and reasonable armies in many places.
- It was indeed Amulius in Salona in 261BC. I couldnt remember where he went in those early years. The logs I wrote of all the battles see Amulius fighting as follows:
270S: Capture Apollonia.
269S:Kill rebels near Apollonia
267W: Capture Salona.
265S: Fighting Macedonians near Thermon
261S: Sally from Salona against Gaul.
So it does indeed look like Amulius doubled back.
Edit: Found a save. Here you can see the Gaul army approaching Salona. Amulius is in place and more troops are arriving to assist.
https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1682/a2624ju.th.jpg (https://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2624ju.jpg)
As for 'all' the forces in northern Italy late in my game. Lots were mercenaries. Patavium was one of two archer/ballista producer towns, whilst other troops were made in southern Italy and marched up through roman lands (whilst allied), or they marched through eastern europe.
Gauls are not a hard faction to fight in battle early in the game. But they are indeed numerous. Had some big battles around Patavium. Once northern Italy was mine Gaul were less of a problem. Thinking about it...they did give me my first land defeat of the campaign and also the first and toughest bridge battle Ive ever fought.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-03-2006, 19:24
I'd say the campaign I am doing now is the best one I have ever done. I am the scipii and I have all of Sicily, Carthage, Thapsus and Lepcis Magna. I am helping the brutii with thrace at the moment and and have made around 5000 a turn. I did make over 8000 once tho which is alot for me. I'll post some screenshots soon.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-03-2006, 23:32
I have one screenshot as I keep forgetting to turn my screenshot program on.
https://img485.imageshack.us/img485/3900/untitled2lx.th.png (https://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2lx.png)
:2thumbsup: The only odd thing is that it happened in carthage and not my capital...:dizzy2:
Garvanko
05-05-2006, 20:46
Started as the Greeks in the XGM Mod, and everything is going well so far. I successfully negotiated past the early phase and killed off Macedon. Now war with the Julii and Pontus is likely to keep me occupied for much of the middle game. Money is rolling in, which is good, as it opens up new tech trees for some really great units - Hypastists, Greek Heavy cavalry, Greek Mercenaries, Armoured Phalangites, and Marine Archers. Spartans will take a while to train - originally the mod specified a 30 turn wait for one unit to be trained - I changed that to 15.
Anyway, some screenshots..
Training Armoured Phalangites and Greek Heavy Cavalry at Thessalonica.
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2409/nightfighter5xu.th.jpg (https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightfighter5xu.jpg)
Taking Sardis - Thunder and lightning
https://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2517/darkcloudsandrainasitakethetow.th.jpg (https://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkcloudsandrainasitakethetow.jpg)
AI Reinforcements - got a little carried away sapping! It cost 800 denarii reparing that wall..
https://img53.imageshack.us/img53/3656/reinforcementsaigotalittlecarr.th.jpg (https://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=reinforcementsaigotalittlecarr.jpg)
Center taken - army forming up for inspection - still pouring down (really was amazing seeing that while the battle went on!)
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8007/citytakenstillrainingarmyrefor.th.jpg (https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=citytakenstillrainingarmyrefor.jpg)
Suddenly the sun pops out - and the battle is won!
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/789/suddenlythesuncomesout1fy.th.jpg (https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suddenlythesuncomesout1fy.jpg)
Pyrrhus of Epirus - fresh from taking Byzantium - rushes into Asia Minor looking for blood.
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5207/pyrrhussonaroll6ej.th.jpg (https://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrrhussonaroll6ej.jpg)
Avicenna
05-05-2006, 21:29
Nice campaign Garvanko! Shame the mod isn't accurate though, as Antigonos was an enemy of Sparta. Why not take the historical route and get Pyrrhus to fight in Italy and whip the Romans?
Garvanko
05-05-2006, 23:30
Hi Tiberius!
I wasn't able to take Italy in the beginning because:
a) Lack of quality troops/facilities at Tarentum
b) Was looking to kill Macedon first and consolidate in Greece
c) Seluecids were blockading my ports early on and it really hurt my economy for a while
In any case, Im playing a Provincial campaign (there are two types of campaigns in this Mod - Imperial and Provincial), so there are no Brutii or Scipii factions, just the Julii and the Senate. In the provincial campaign, the Greek Cities actually start the game with Tarentum as one of its settlements, with Pyrrhus as the key family member in the region. Unfortunately Rome had two huge stacks in Italy and came for me pretty quick. I had little chance of beating them, so I cut my losses, and left.
Strategically, I think it was a good decision, as Pyrrhus has been instrumental in my capture of Thessalonica, Byzantium and Perguman (retook it after abandoning it early on), which has pretty much set my economy back on track. Nevertheless, I am considering bringing him back to Greece, as the Julii are gaining a lot of territory and have taken most of IIyria.
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 11:03
Update:
Have taken Nicomedia, Tylis and Campus Getae. I'll use Porrolissum (Thracian's last province) as a buffer between me and the Romans while I carry on the war in the East.
Pyrrhus making a name for himself in Asia Minor
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8453/pyrrhusmakinganameforhimselfin.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrrhusmakinganameforhimselfin.jpg)
Fog of War revealed some interesting developments, including the Seluecids eating the Ptolemics alive, for once!
Alexander the Great?
https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3960/alexander6eq.th.jpg (https://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alexander6eq.jpg)
Avicenna
05-06-2006, 13:27
Alexander IV didn't die? :shocked:
Garvanko, what's the difference between the two campaigns? Is one set in the Roman Empire era? Anyway, you should be able to deal with the Roman stacks one by one.
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 13:56
Only difference between the two campaigns is that in the Imperial campaign you have a the three Roman factions plus senate a la vanilla RTW. In the provincial campaign you only have one Roman faction (Julii) plus the senate. Also the starting provinces are slightly different for the Greeks.
Imperial - Corinth, Athens, Pergamun, and Rhodes
Provincial - All the above, plus Tarentum - the start date is 280BC.
I like the Provincial campaign - allows you to play at a slower pace, and also lets the AI build up as well. You should try this mod, Tiberius - its a definite step up (or three) from vanilla.
Severous
05-06-2006, 17:30
Hi
Just started RTW V1.5 Egyptian Imperial campaign on VH/VH
At first my chariots were killed quickly. Handled carefully however they can kill a lot albeit slowly due to few missiles fired at a time.
A witness hidden in ruins saw Egyptians slowly whitle down a numerically larger force of rebels. Rebels just stood there. It seems they knew they could not run down the fast chariots. On VH the rebels have high morale so didnt rout. Few missiles means a slow death. They stood almost to the last man. Worth a lot more to the Egyptians experience than killing routers.
https://img320.imageshack.us/img320/8558/egypt269w1rebelruins9mq.th.jpg (https://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=egypt269w1rebelruins9mq.jpg)
Starting to feel that Egypt is going to be a shooting campaign.
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 18:32
This made me laugh!:2thumbsup:
My diplomat at Corduba just witnessed the Gauls (Allies) taking the city from Carthage, so I was intrigued to see how far they had gone..
I instructed him to to offer the Gauls a straight swap for map information..
Their response?
https://img316.imageshack.us/img316/285/terms3su.th.jpg (https://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terms3su.jpg)
Bombasticus Maximus
05-06-2006, 18:56
Whats The Greek Citites like for a campaign as I've played as them a few times but not really fell for them. Whats the income like, how hard are the Romans to beat on say medium/hard?
And where did the guy who made this post go?
Rome´s diplomacy at its best :dizzy2:
Playing a H/M campaign with the Julii, I constantly came up with that answer, even when all I offererd was a ceasefire :inquisitive:
Well this Julii campaign is pretty much fun, though the Senate is slow with outlawing me - again. I´ve got forty-some provinces, wiped out Gaul, Britannia, Spain and Carthage (after I made them my protectorate first, but then I had to go to war with Egypt, who at that time was Carthage´s ally. Oh well, they had only two provinces left anyways), Germania is still my protectorate (their only surviving ally, Scythia, was being wiped out by the Bruti). I wonder what could make the Senate first love and then fear me more. The Scipii, though having a much smaller empire region-wise (they went east, taking southern Greece and Asia Minor), have risen to highest appreciation and then took the deep plunge with the Senate (but they never got anywhere with the plebs and were therefore unable to start the Civil War themselves - if the AI can do that in the first place), so I think it may also have something to do with army strength as well, as their army, according to the overview graphs, is about twice as strong as mine. Then again, I went fairly slow about my expansion and let a few Senate missions fail, when I didn´t want to go to war with too many factions at once.
Well, the Plebs just love me, and I could start the Civil War myself, but once, just once, I´d like to have the Senate ask my leader to commit suicide. That´s never happened to me and there´s not much fun in a Civil War when I have already fulfilled my fifty-province quote and just have to grab Rome. It´s supposed to be more trouble.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-06-2006, 19:04
Update:
Have taken Nicomedia, Tylis and Campus Getae. I'll use Porrolissum (Thracian's last province) as a buffer between me and the Romans while I carry on the war in the East.
Pyrrhus making a name for himself in Asia Minor
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8453/pyrrhusmakinganameforhimselfin.th.jpg (https://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrrhusmakinganameforhimselfin.jpg)
Fog of War revealed some interesting developments, including the Seluecids eating the Ptolemics alive, for once!
Alexander the Great?
https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3960/alexander6eq.th.jpg (https://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alexander6eq.jpg)
That could not be him as he was from macedon. But if it was ALexandria are in trouble. :skull:
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 19:07
Alexandria was taken. Egypt is almost crushed - Im waiting for the Faction Destroyed pop-up any turn now!
Whats The Greek Citites like for a campaign as I've played as them a few times but not really fell for them. Whats the income like, how hard are the Romans to beat on say medium/hard?
And where did the guy who made this post go?
Greek Cities is a lot of fun, but you should play a mod, as there is greater depth to them - more units, etc. And also depends whether you like playing around with the phalanx and hammer/anvil tactics.
Romans are not hard to beat. Just hold the line and hit them from behind with your Cav. Obviously, kill the Brutii off early or they will be a pain for the rest of the game.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-06-2006, 19:11
I usually go up italy. Whats the highest income you ever got from a turn? As I am starting to make money everytime I play the starts a little touch and go but I get there...
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 19:34
Highest I ever made was in my recent Julii campaign - approximately 150,000 denarii per turn profit. You honestly don't need more than that when you hold half the known world.
Best way to get rich?
1. Coastal cities - Build Ports - Markets - Roads - Farms (in that order)
2. Landlocked cities - Build Roads - Farms - Markets (ditto)
And of course the relevant temples as soon as they become available/necessary..
I just keep building them like that, and I end up have profit every turn. I also let the AI handle my taxation and automatically sets the highest taxes possible in every settlement.
Early game - Try to make as much as 4k profit
Middlegame - Try for something between 8k and 20k
Lategame - If all goes well (and by then it usually is), then I usually break the 50k barrier
Bombasticus Maximus
05-06-2006, 19:42
And trade rights and alliances? do I tare with the eastern units as they get the most money?
Avicenna
05-06-2006, 20:46
That could not be him as he was from macedon. But if it was ALexandria are in trouble. :skull:
Better explanation: could not be him because he was DEAD.
The Selucid Empire didn't exist 'til he was dead.
Bombasticus Maximus
05-06-2006, 20:53
Thats what I meant. As the seleucid in RTW he starts in Sardis. I took the fiight to the romans in Messana as I knew they was going to attack me sooner or later. They had a small army of two hastati which attacked me.
https://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7326/picture0054bo.th.png (https://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0054bo.png)
Craterus
05-06-2006, 21:24
Alexander was born in 356BC. It's almost impossible for him to be alive in that game. Also, Phyrrus must have been getting on a bit by the game start.
Garvanko
05-06-2006, 21:40
And trade rights and alliances? do I tare with the eastern units as they get the most money?
Goes without saying. Every single turn, always try and find a way to build up your economy. :book:
On Alexander.. Its only because I saw the name that I started to wonder - maybe he was reborn, Total War style.:inquisitive: Seems to have helped the Seleucids, though.. For once, they're thriving!
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