Hostages in Iraq Rescued [Archive]

Ice

03-23-2006, 20:49

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/23/iraq.hostages/index.html

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Just three hours after a newly captured detainee told them the location of three Christian aid workers, coalition troops on Thursday rescued the men who had been held hostage since November.

Good to hear. I wish they had caught the men who did it, though.

master of the puppets

03-23-2006, 20:55

very good, i hope they can continue this. but also, the house was completely unguarded, thats a very good sign, the insurgency is growing thin in the ranks and can't spread themselves. We're winning.

Marcellus

03-23-2006, 20:55

Fantastic news, though if only this had come a few weeks earlier, the fourth hostage might have been found alive too.

Devastatin Dave

03-23-2006, 21:03

What a bunch of ungrateful bastards. Not once did they thank the troops for pulling them out of this. They should have left them in the hands of their "freedom fighters".

Dâriûsh

03-23-2006, 21:06

very good, i hope they can continue this. but also, the house was completely unguarded, thats a very good sign, the insurgency is growing thin in the ranks and can't spread themselves. We're winning. :inquisitive:

Perhaps they were out there conducting well-organized attacks on police stations? :idea2:

Ice

03-23-2006, 21:11

:inquisitive:

Perhaps they were out there conducting well-organized attacks on police stations? :idea2:

Perhaps that was a sign of desperation? :idea2:

Dâriûsh

03-23-2006, 21:16

Perhaps that was a sign of desperation? :idea2:

Then perhaps you really are winning, but nobody told the insurgents. :idea2:

Either way, good to see the surviving hostages freed.

Kraxis

03-23-2006, 21:20

When I first heard they were alone, I thought the insurgents might have gotten wind of it and simply bolted. Seems logical if they were pressed for time. Pulling the hostages along with them would be silly, and had they been willing to truly kill them, then they would have been dead, all of them.

Red Peasant

03-23-2006, 23:40

What a bunch of ungrateful bastards. Not once did they thank the troops for pulling them out of this. They should have left them in the hands of their "freedom fighters".

Well, what do you expect from Christians...it was the will of God.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

03-24-2006, 00:07

Just heard this on the news, go 22 Regiment!

Then perhaps you really are winning, but nobody told the insurgents. :idea2:

Either way, good to see the surviving hostages freed.

Murthy's Law: Once you have secured the area don't forget to tell the enemy.

Kralizec

03-24-2006, 00:19

What a bunch of ungrateful bastards. Not once did they thank the troops for pulling them out of this. They should have left them in the hands of their "freedom fighters".

The true worth of a man is determined by what he'll do for a man who can do him absolutely no good.

But yeah, that's pretty ungrateful.
Good job, 22 regiment.

Major Robert Dump

03-24-2006, 00:50

These people belong to the same group who has repeatedly referred to the US as "occupiers." All politics aside, I think some thanks are warranted and failure to do so is incredibly tacky. It reminds me of when the western parents of the dead bulldozer girl (isreal/palestine) went to Palestine to whine about how terrible Isreal is and they end up being kidnapped by palestenian radicals.

Kralizec

03-24-2006, 00:54

Ungrateful, yes. But you'd still want to free those protestors right?

It's simply the decent thing to do.

Major Robert Dump

03-24-2006, 01:05

There must have been 100 seperate quotes/phrases on their website about the joy and elation of having them freed, and not one of them said anything about thanking the people who got them free.

mystic brew

03-24-2006, 01:29

When I first heard they were alone, I thought the insurgents might have gotten wind of it and simply bolted.

It seems that one of the kidnappers group was arrested and told them where the hostages were. so the kidnappers must have had at least some time to realise, or be told what happened, but not enough to organise transportation with any likely degree of success without being spotted.

so they left.

And in the statement i heard the troops who rescued them were the first ones mentioned.

they then went on to compare themselves to the soldiers, stating that since the soldiers were risking their lives for what they believe, they should do no less.

Beirut

03-24-2006, 01:49

Thanks!

:unitedkingdom: :unitedstates: ...them's my buddies.

Alexanderofmacedon

03-24-2006, 02:47

Great news!:2thumbsup:

Papewaio

03-24-2006, 03:27

Just heard this on the news, go 22 Regiment!

So that would be the SAS then...

Tribesman

03-24-2006, 03:31

And in the statement i heard the troops who rescued them were the first ones mentioned.

they then went on to compare themselves to the soldiers, stating that since the soldiers were risking their lives for what they believe, they should do no less.
Stop it Mysic , don't you understand , these people didn't say thank you , even though they did say thank you they still didn't really say it .~;)
If you carry on by pointing out that they did say thank you you will ruin the topic for those who want to say that they didn't say thankyou .

Try this line of thought instead .... They should be blaming the soldiers not thanking them .
If the soldiers were not there then there would be no peace protesters going there to complain about the soldiers being there .
If the soldiers were not there then wouldn't be insurgents kidnapping people because the soldiers are there .
If the soldiers were doing their job properly then the insurgents wouldn't be there and they wouldn't be able to kidnap people .
So it is all the fault of the military .

mystic brew

03-24-2006, 03:44

sorry, i should be more considerate of others.

although i can't find the transcript... *grunt* how irritating. heard it while i was doing the washing up.

Beirut

03-24-2006, 03:52

According to the CBC, the Pentagon said Canadian Special Forces (that would our JTF-2 boys), also took part.

But I'm still saying thanks to our buddies. :yes: :unitedkingdom::unitedstates:

Shaka_Khan

03-24-2006, 04:01

Thank goodness. I think this is the first successful rescue in Iraq. Insurgents will think twice before they attempt to kidnap someone.

mystic brew

03-24-2006, 04:04

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4838018.stm

i dunno about that

Alexanderofmacedon

03-24-2006, 04:34

I think I would rather die fighting the insurgents than be held captive.

Even if the chance is there to get rescued, I don't know. I'd try to bring down any bastard that put his hand on me the wrong way though, so...:dizzy2:

Crazed Rabbit

03-24-2006, 04:35

Stop it Mysic , don't you understand , these people didn't say thank you , even though they did say thank you they still didn't really say it .~;)
If you carry on by pointing out that they did say thank you you will ruin the topic for those who want to say that they didn't say thankyou .

Perhaps you should try reading what they said before talking.
Here's their statement:
http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060323-005/page.asp
The first mention of the soldiers who rescued them:

"We believe that the illegal occupation of Iraq by Multinational Forces is the root cause of the insecurity which led to this kidnapping and so much pain and suffering in Iraq. The occupation must end.

Not that the facts have ever stopped you before.

I have no respect for people who don't give a **** when people like Saddam are in power, but then call the US's actions bad and want them out. It's like they would prefer Saddam. Plus, they're stupid:

They went, motivated by a passion for justice and peace to live out a nonviolent alternative in a nation wracked by armed conflict.

According to the CBC, the Pentagon said Canadian Special Forces (that would our JTF-2 boys), also took part.

But I'm still saying thanks to our buddies.

Canadians in Iraq? Well the more the merrier! ~:cheers:

Crazed Rabbit

Major Robert Dump

03-24-2006, 05:15

Goofball

03-24-2006, 05:22

So that would be the SAS then...

Unless you're in Canada, where the 22nd regiment is the famous 'van-doos."

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-579/conflict_war/van_doos/

Goofball

03-24-2006, 05:39

I have no respect for people who don't give a **** when people like Saddam are in power, but then call the US's actions bad and want them out.

And I have no respect for people who don't give a **** when people like Saddam are in power, but then try to use "removing Saddam from power" and "liberating the Iraqi people" as a justification for a war that costs billions (trillions?) of dollars and tens (hundreds?) of thousands of lives, when the whole world knows that neither of those two things had anything to do with the reason for invading.

All of the chicken hawks going around blowing their horns and patting themselves on the back for their "humanitarian" invasion of Iraq coudn't give two olive-drab turds about the average Iraqi. "Liberating the Iraqi people" is just something they talk about in order to feel less guilty about seeing American flag-draped caskets coming home.

So go peddle your Republican talking points somewhere else. Nobody's buying that beep here. You want to convince us of your love for the Iraqi people? Volunteer for a humanitarian organization and go over there and risk your life building hospitals. But don't stand around telling me what a noble humanitarian you are because you've bought your government's amazing line of beep.

Edited for language by Ser Clegane

Puh-leeeeeeeze...

Ser Clegane

03-24-2006, 06:09

Here's their statement:
http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060323-005/page.asp
The first mention of the soldiers who rescued them:

Uhm ... that's not their statement, but one of the statements that were made by others as a reaction to the rescue of their fellows.

Crazed Rabbit

03-24-2006, 06:35

But don't stand around telling me what a noble humanitarian you are because you've bought your government's amazing line of bullshit.

Whoa. A mind reader. And I didn't even know what I was thinking myself. Why thank you.

Crazed Rabbit

Tribesman

03-24-2006, 09:34

Perhaps you should try reading what they said before talking.

Not that the facts have ever stopped you before.

Really ?:no:

Uhm ... that's not their statement, but one of the statements that were made by others as a reaction to the rescue of their fellows.
:oops: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

So would you like help reading , try my pet goat , I think george has finished with that one now .

But to be fair , my statement was a little off , it shouldn't be ......
So it is all the fault of the military .
...it should be ...it is all the fault of the politicians and the gullible fools who swallowed their crap .:2thumbsup:

Vladimir

03-24-2006, 14:41

Then perhaps you really are winning, but nobody told the insurgents. :idea2:

Either way, good to see the surviving hostages freed.

Perhaps it’s a fraud :idea2: . These people were kidnapped by a group no one heard of, the only person to die (the American) seems to have been killed while trying to escape, the house was unguarded when troops arrived, and the “victims” are part of some wacko left wing peace-nick group.

Still, I agree with the latter. :2thumbsup:

Templar Knight

03-24-2006, 14:55

I heard it was B Squadron, 22nd Special Air Service :2thumbsup: along with Canadian and US anti-terror teams backed up by the Parachute Regiment and the Royal Marine Commandos :2thumbsup:

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

03-24-2006, 20:57

Yeah, 22 Reg. and some other folks. No offence to the Americans and Canadians but they were probably just there fo their flags.

I think that getting rid of Saddam was a good idea but everything after the end of the "war" was done wrong, most of that was the fault of Washington.

Beirut

03-24-2006, 23:39

Yeah, 22 Reg. and some other folks. No offence to the Americans and Canadians but they were probably just there fo their flags.

I disagree. Our JTF-2 boys are working up a very respectable reputation. I can't imagine they were wall flowers during the show.

Redleg

03-25-2006, 00:51

I disagree. Our JTF-2 boys are working up a very respectable reputation. I can't imagine they were wall flowers during the show.

Yes indeed JTF-2 has had a respectable reputation from their conception. If I remember correctly didn't they support the United States in several operations elsewhere besides Iraq.

Templar Knight

03-25-2006, 14:37

Joint Task Force 2 was originally formed for special operations during the Gulf War before being disbanded after the war. They were then formed in April 1993 as Canada's counter-terrorism unit accepting volunteers from three other services.

They have seen action in the Balklands, Afghanistan, Nepal, Zaire, Haiti, Rwanda, Tanzania, and the Central African Republic.

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 14:52

i should probably read all the text..
But im lazy :)

So il just say..

I was reading the paper.
and aparantly they..

"Spread storys by word of mouth that the SAS were coming.
And the insurgents ran away with only the rags they could carry"

SAS always seems to have that effect on terrorists.
Why does the american version fail to impose such respect?

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 15:11

The SAS really are the pride of britain.
Since Lt Col David Stirling first recruited the best warriors from among our armed forces for the elite squad, their reputation have only increased around the globe.
The amazing televised sceens of our boys rescuing hostages unharmed from the iraninan embassy in london - while taking out all but one of the terrorists - put fear firmly in the hears of all who threaten our peace.

Never was that more clearly illustarated than in the dawn rescue of Norman Kember and his fellow hostages in a bagdad slum yesterday

By word of mouth through the warren of streets, the message spread:
"The SAS are coming"
The terrified insurgents fled their beds in the few rags they were wearing,
Leaving three men they had tortured and terrified for 118 days to be released without a single shot fired in anger.
Reputation alone spared blood-shed

Long may our boys be the very besy

Thats what i was talking about..

Tribesman

03-25-2006, 15:46

Originally Posted by News paper

OK I know newspapers are just newspapers , but what a pile of crap .
By word of mouth through the warren of streets, the message spread:
"The SAS are coming"
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Thats a comic book not a newpaper .

Oh well , now that there has been so much about the hostges initial thanks not being enough of an expression of their gratitude for some people , they have now given some more which contain even more qualifiers and more politics :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
All the moaners should have just settled for the initial thank you :oops: .

Marcellus

03-25-2006, 15:50

Originally Posted by News paper

The SAS really are the pride of britain.
Since Lt Col David Stirling first recruited the best warriors from among our armed forces for the elite squad, their reputation have only increased around the globe.
The amazing televised sceens of our boys rescuing hostages unharmed from the iraninan embassy in london - while taking out all but one of the terrorists - put fear firmly in the hears of all who threaten our peace.

Never was that more clearly illustarated than in the dawn rescue of Norman Kember and his fellow hostages in a bagdad slum yesterday

By word of mouth through the warren of streets, the message spread:
"The SAS are coming"
The terrified insurgents fled their beds in the few rags they were wearing,
Leaving three men they had tortured and terrified for 118 days to be released without a single shot fired in anger.
Reputation alone spared blood-shed

Long may our boys be the very besy

Several speling mistakes, a complete absence of capital letters on proper nouns, ridiculously nationalistic statements without anything to back them up...I'm guessing this isn't a mainstream 'news' source.

Kraxis

03-25-2006, 19:56

Well, the British hostage has now given his thanks, though it certainly doesn't seem very nice that it has to be dragged out of the man.

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 20:03

if there were no Insurgents, Then how were there hostages.
The insurgents left.
Simple as that.

can you come up with a better reason

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 20:07

Tell you the truth.
If i Told them "if i get kidnaped Dont rescue me"

And then they came and rescude me id be prety pissed.

Its like having do not resusitate on your bed in hospitol Dying then some doctor says.
I dont care what he wants Il resusitate him any way.

I wouldnt thank them either.
He never asked for their help. And never wanted it.
So why should he thank them for going against his express wishes.

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 20:15

Several speling mistakes, a complete absence of capital letters on proper nouns, ridiculously nationalistic statements without anything to back them up...I'm guessing this isn't a mainstream 'news' source.

Nah the spelling mistakes are mine..
Its a news paper.. Not online document.
So i had to type it out as i read it.

No edit key means i cant fix the typo's.

its one of the best selling uk papers.
But i must admit they have a "english are the best"
Attitude, which was apparent with there story about wayne rooney.

heres a snipet to show you what i mean.

Wayne Rooney met the world cup yesterday - But was not allowed to touch it.
That's a right reserved for past winners.
Our hero will have to wait untill july 9 to hold the trophy aloft
Now thats Arrogance in action.
I hate that pie faced english ... Never mind

Ice

03-25-2006, 21:11

SAS always seems to have that effect on terrorists.
Why does the american version fail to impose such respect?

*Rolls Eyes*

Oh please.

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 21:46

Seems to me USA. Keeps calling up Black watch or SAS to bail them out cos there useless..

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 21:53

This is the kind of stuff that makes our boys respectable..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/events2000/embassy_siege/embassy_stormed.ram

Killing anything that mooves and freindly fire is what makes USA soilders bad at the job..

Strike For The South

03-25-2006, 21:55

Seems to me USA. Keeps calling up Black watch or SAS to bail them out cos there useless..

lol

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 22:05

Correct me if im wrong,
But didnt the yanks retreat from bag dad Tail between their legs tanks and all.
Just to call up the black watch.
WHi just WALKED around the place and sorted it out.

Strike For The South

03-25-2006, 22:09

I love you my welsh brother

Crazed Rabbit

03-25-2006, 22:09

What in the bloody blazes are you talking about?!
EDIT: this is directed to J.A.G.

Crazed Rabbit

Alexanderofmacedon

03-25-2006, 22:09

I understand you have opinions "Just a Girl", but it seems you're trying to pick a fight...

Don't do that...:no:

Just A Girl

03-25-2006, 22:10

I like Debates :)
And i love you 2 STFS

Ice

03-25-2006, 23:36

What in the bloody blazes are you talking about?!
EDIT: this is directed to J.A.G.

Crazed Rabbit

I really don't think anyone knows half the time.

Marcellus

03-26-2006, 00:59

Nah the spelling mistakes are mine..
Its a news paper.. Not online document.
So i had to type it out as i read it.

No edit key means i cant fix the typo's.

its one of the best selling uk papers.
But i must admit they have a "english are the best"
Attitude, which was apparent with there story about wayne rooney.

Ah, OK. Which newspaper is it, by the way?