John Wayne vs Clint Eastwood etc.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Who is the king of the west? If they would meet in a duel, who would win the duel? And who made the coolest movies?

edit: damn 7 views and still no more votes...?!!! this is an as important question as ninjas vs pirates and I think everyone should do their duty and vote! :yes:

[Reverend Joe]

AAAH!!! You are making me choose... WHY?!

I had to vote Gah. No way to choose. They are all kings in their own right.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Gene Wilder

[Craterus]

Clint Eastwood.

[The Stranger]

Clint Eastwood...no doubt

[Ianofsmeg16]

Clint, he may be old, but he still makes the bad guys pay!

[The Stranger]

we should have him as the mod. NO MORE SPAM with CLINT IN CHARGE

[Spino]

In a duel between the Clint Eastwood & John Wayne the latter wouldn't stand a chance. Blonde's lightning fast reflexes would send the Duke to a dusty grave for sure. However, the Duke isn't your run of the mill hombre from the badlands. In order to bring down the Duke down Clint would have to unload an entire Colt 45 revolver into him, reload... then do it again!

Thanks to the Italians Clint wound up starring in the coolest and most memorable westerns ever made. The westerns he did afterwards were good and they certainly ranked high on America's home grown list but none came close to the trilogy he did for Leone. Hell, even the spaghetti western soundtracks kicked ass; Ennio Morricone's scores set the bar so high that everyone immediately refers to his work when discussing the genre. Do you know anyone who hums or whistles the soundtracks to "The Searchers" or "Rio Bravo"??? I certainly don't, but once in awhile I still catch someone making that trademark whistle tune from "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly."

Clint + Sergio Leone + Ennio Morricone = Best Westerns Ever

[Rodion Romanovich]

we should have him as the mod. NO MORE SPAM with CLINT IN CHARGE

now THAT would be interesting! Clint would draw the lock and banstick faster than any other mod could do :laugh4:

[A.Saturnus]

14 to 0 know! John Wayne is now officially p0wned.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Feeling lucky? Huh? Are ya?



:2thumbsup:

[Mithrandir]

Charles Bronson.

[yesdachi]

Who is the king of the west? If they would meet in a duel, who would win the duel? And who made the coolest movies?

edit: damn 7 views and still no more votes...?!!! this is an as important question as ninjas vs pirates and I think everyone should do their duty and vote! :yes:
I’d have to say ninjas.

[Reverend Joe]

Charles Bronson.
Finally, someone votes for the Harmonica Man!

"You taking me to see Frank?"
"Frank sent us... but it looks like we're one horse short."
"No. You brought two too many."

[Dutch_guy]

Charles Bronson.

Seconded, he does the ''kill all the bad guys even though they outnumber you ten to one and are armed with automatic rifles '' act better than Clint, though on westerns per se it's kind of hard really, vote for them both if I could.

For now it's Bronson, just because he's losing.

:balloon2:

[Rodion Romanovich]

Finally, someone votes for the Harmonica Man!

"You taking me to see Frank?"
"Frank sent us... but it looks like we're one horse short."
"No. You brought two too many."

Pure gold, as most of the lines in Sergio Leone's movies :2thumbsup: Virtual beer for those who can guess which movies these come from:

"When you gotta shoot shoot, don't talk"

"Who said I was joking?"

not sure about exact phrasing for this one:
"17, 18... 18? *turns around and shoots the last surviving villain* 19."
"Any problems boy?"
"Yeah, I thought I had problems with my heading, but it's all right now."

"This train doesn't stop at Tucamcare"
(calmly lowers book) "This train will stop at Tucamcare"

[Kanamori]

John Wayne is the one, and only, true cowboy of the west.

I prefer Yojimbo more than For a Few Dollars More, which the former was the original, but both are quite good, in my opinion.


I had to read a good literary piece on Wayne, once, but now I am forgetting her name. Gah!

[GoreBag]

Clint. He's not really a cowboy because he wears a poncho.

[Spino]

Pure gold, as most of the lines in Sergio Leone's movies :2thumbsup: Virtual beer for those who can guess which movies these come from:

I'll give it a shot...

[quote]"When you gotta shoot shoot, don't talk"
Duco (Eli Wallach) in the Good, the Bad & the Ugly.


"Who said I was joking?"
Was that Blonde (Clint) speaking to Duco in the Good, the Bad & the Ugly?


not sure about exact phrasing for this one:
"17, 18... 18? *turns around and shoots the last surviving villain* 19."
"Any problems boy?"
"Yeah, I thought I had problems with my heading, but it's all right now."
Munco (Clint Eastwood) speaking to Colonel Mortimer (Lee Van Cleef) in the final scene from For a Few Dollars More.


children looking at a "duel" about to being:
"Look, they're doing like we use to play!"
Not sure. Fistful of Dollars or Once Upon a Time in the West?


"I sell myself for 5000 dollars, that's 4970 more than Judas"
"They didn't have dollars in those days"
Not sure. Exchange between Duco & Blonde from TGTB&TU? Something tells me it might be Once Upon a Time in the West.


"This train will stop a Tucamcare"
Colonel Mortimer (Lee Van Cleef) speaking to the train conductor in For a Few Dollars More.

Funny you should bring that last scene up because I'm pretty good at doing imitations and can do an uncanny one of Lee Van Cleef and the actor who played the elderly conductor. Every time I do that scene for my friend it never fails to make him laugh.

One stroke of genius Leone had was casting Henry Fonda as the bad guy in Once Upon a Time in the West. Hank was famous for playing the straight good guy roles and all of a sudden he's playing a grade A opportunistic S.O.B. That flashback during the final scene between Hank & Chuck never fails to make my spine tingle.

[Reverend Joe]

Pure gold, as most of the lines in Sergio Leone's movies :2thumbsup: Virtual beer for those who can guess which movies these come from:

"When you gotta shoot shoot, don't talk"

"Who said I was joking?"

not sure about exact phrasing for this one:
"17, 18... 18? *turns around and shoots the last surviving villain* 19."
"Any problems boy?"
"Yeah, I thought I had problems with my heading, but it's all right now."

"This train doesn't stop at Tucamcare"
(calmly lowers book) "This train will stop at Tucamcare"

Someone already lested them I believe, but without looking I'll give it a shot:

Good, Bad & Ugly,

Don't know,

Few Dollars More...

:wall: I KNOW that last one! I just can't remember...
That's it! Few Dollars More again.

Edit: the Judas line was Once Upon a Time in the West. Can't remember when, but Cheyenne says the Judas line to Harmonica, and Harmonica responds, "They didn't have dollars in those days."

Couple more:


"End of the line."


"Sorry, Shorty."


"They call 'em millions."


"Sure... I think we should give 'em a burial. (sarcastic)...And maybe we should give them a sermon, and maybe a psalm or two would be in order!"

I am not sure about the wording of the last one. One hint about it, in case it is misworded too badly- it comes from a sort-f western; it doesn't really take place in the usual time period, but it feels like a western.

[Rodion Romanovich]

@Zorba: Damn, I'm not sure about any of those new ones... ~:( I only know enough movie quotes to ask questions, but not to answer other people's questions, I now realize...

Btw all answers were correct :2thumbsup:

The "who said i was joking" line comes from for a few dollars more. Clint has infiltrated the group of villains, and together with one part of the group he robs the bank in El Paso and retreats outside the town. Then the other men ask him something like "what are we going to say to the boss now", and he answers he'll say that they were ambushed and all died, except him. They then answer something like "nice joke", to which he responds "who said I was joking?"

I checked up up the ones I edited out which I wasn't sure about. The one with playing was when Lee Van Clef and Clint meet for the first time in For a few dollars more. The Judas quote was from Once upon a Time in the west.

[Csargo]

Clint Eastwood owns John Wayne and you wanna know why?

I dont know why I just voted.

[Ja'chyra]

Can I just say that after Brokeback (or Humpback as it will now be known) Mountain cowboys are just not cool, the only people young boys have to aspire to now are pirates, Yarrrrrrrrrrrrr me hearties :captain: :pirate:

[Mithrandir]

Gays can't be cool?

[Quietus]

Charles Bronson.

You slighted, by not adding, Chuck Norris! Your days are numbered (when Chuck finds out).

[Rodion Romanovich]

Can I just say that after Brokeback (or Humpback as it will now be known) Mountain cowboys are just not cool, the only people young boys have to aspire to now are pirates, Yarrrrrrrrrrrrr me hearties :captain: :pirate:

Just wait until they make a movie about gay pirates...

[Taurus]

Eastwood.

[Ronin]

eastwood owns all!!!:2thumbsup:

[Ianofsmeg16]

Just wait until they make a movie about gay pirates...
Looks like I misjudged Pirates of the Carribean then, wasnt that a Gay Pirate movie?

[Spino]

Looks like I misjudged Pirates of the Carribean then, wasnt that a Gay Pirate movie?

Wouldn't that make it 'Butt Pirates of the Carribbean'?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Chuck Norris. :2thumbsup:



























































No...wait a minute...:inquisitive:

[Ianofsmeg16]

Wouldn't that make it 'Butt Pirates of the Carribbean'?
Gay Pirates of the Carribean, steal your gay virginity with a swift ooooaaarrr

[Craterus]

Gay Pirates of the Carribean, steal your gay virginity with a swift ooooaaarrr

And this coming from one of our more mature members...

:laugh4: :laugh4:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

All this poll shows is the average age of the members of the org. Theres no comparison. Wayne rules.


Wayne
Rio Bravo
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Red River
Rio Grande
The Alamo
Rooster Cogburn (...and the Lady)
The Horse Soldiers
Angel & The Badman
The War Wagon
Chisum
The Undefeated
Cahill - United States Marshal
The Fighting Kentuckian
How the West Was Won
McLintock!
North to Alaska
The Comancheros
The Searchers
The Man From Utah
Stagecoach
Randy Rides Alone
Riders of Destiny
The Train Robbers
Big Jake
The Sagebrush Trail
Winds of the Wasteland
The Dawn Rider
Lawless Frontier
Star Packer
Texas Terror
Lucky Texan
The Shootist
True Grit
The War Wagon
The Cowboys
Chisum
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Fort Apache

Eastwood

Joe Kidd
Hang 'em High
Unforgiven
Pale Rider
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
A Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly


Now come on. Is there really any doubt of who the king of westerns is?

The three best westerns ever IMO are all Waynes

She wore a Yellow Ribbon
Fort Apache and the Searhers. Spagehetti westerns in comparison? Gimme a break.

And thats only a partial list of the Dukes Westerns.

[Reverend Joe]

Gawain, there is such a thing as having a different opinion than yours... I mean, it isn't always your way or the wrong way.

For example, let's reexamine your list, adding in the filter of which movies were actually any good:

Eastwood:

Joe Kidd
Hang 'em High
Unforgiven
Pale Rider
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
A Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

the Duke:

Ft. Apache

:laugh4:



(And no, I'm not trying to be confrontational... I'm just jerkin' your chain. Loosen up once in a while. It ain't always a major battle.)

Also, your assumption about age is wholly unfounded. All of the people I know who are around 60 or so agree that Clint is the king of the West- and that the Spaghetti westerns were the best. Not that there is anything wrong with John Ford; he was an incredible cinematographer. But the pre-spaghetti movies are all terribly stilted and stiff. It isn't until Sergio Leone that they feel real.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

(And no, I'm not trying to be confrontational... I'm just jerkin' your chain. Loosen up once in a while. It ain't always a major battle.)


Maybe you should follow your own advice. Jeez I post here like 4 times a month and in the front room and still you wanna fight. Chill.


All of the people I know who are around 60 or so agree that Clint is the king of the West- and that the Spaghetti westerns were the best

Something tells me I know a lot more peole that age than you do. In fact your speaking of my generation. Im telling you your wrong. Clint is a great actor and I have nothing but admiration for him. But theres only one Duke. Hes the original.


To tel the truth although I love most of Eastwoods movies the only western I liked him in was Rawhide.:2thumbsup:

Now if your asking who was cooler then its definitley Clint.

[Beirut]

I'm forced to agree with my fellow old fart; John Wayne was the man.

Clint Eastwood was great, and certainly he was cool, but John Wayne wrote th book on westerns.

[barocca]

I wont vote on this one because Wayne and Clint are both masters of their own domains,

for Adventure Westerns the master is Wayne,

for "Dark" Westerns (featuring anti-heroes and payback theme's) the master is Clint

(and i think you missed a few westerns in that thar filmography pilgrim...)
'Neath the Arizona Skies and at least a dozen more,
the Duke would not be pleased
B.

[Reverend Joe]

Geez, I must have been in a nasty mood yesterday... :dizzy2: I should probably smoke a lot of pot soon; I haven't had any in a while. My Irish blood must be simmering again.

My point was, I am a follower of the Eastwood school of westerns, and so are all of the people from your generation that I know. I mean, Morrison was really good- especially "Ft. Apache", though Henry Fonda was the real highlight of that one, in my opinion- but he just didn't seem to get the same level of grit as Eastwood did. He was too much of a "good guy"; he could never believeably cross the line.

[Kanamori]

There's only one original.~:)

[econ21]

I hated most of Clint Eastwood's cowboy films (& Dirty Harry ones). His character always seemed borderline psychotic and it is not clear why we should root for such a person - particularly as the fictional worlds (Spaghetti Westerns) he inhabited seemed cartoonish rather than authentic. Plus his indestructibility made the films totally uninteresting to me, from a plot point of view. Sometimes I think Arnie just took this kind of part to its ultimate conclusion.

John Wayne, by contrast, usually played a true moral hero and did so with a personal conviction that made it believable, even if rather one-dimensional. His character was usually no superman - dying in the Cowboys, at the Alamo, stricken with cancer - etc, but always had an indomitable spirit.

I guess Wayne's black and white kind of character could not endure much past the 60s - Wayne's character the Searchers was rather dark. And as Clint has aged - and largely left the Western - he has played more human characters. Clint's probably the more talented actor and gifted man (directing etc), but Wayne was the King of the Western.