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Strike For The South
04-29-2006, 23:28
show us teh price

Regular 2.79
super 2.89
premenum 2.99
Deisel 2.75

USA gallons and monies




All in

Marcellus
04-30-2006, 00:01
I'm not sure how much petrol costs at our local petrol station, but the UK average is:

96.13 pence per litre for petrol
98.81 pence per litre for diesel

Which converts to:

$6.64 a gallon (US) for petrol
$6.83 a gallon (US) for diesel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm

Ironside
04-30-2006, 08:09
12,24 sek/liter for regular (95 octane)
11,34 sek/liter for diesel
12,54 sek/liter for what I'm guessing is premenum (98 octane)

That's 6,25$/gallon for regular
5,79$/gallon for diesel
and 6,40$/gallon for premenum.

Beaten on gas-prizes by ther brits? :inquisitive: :laugh4:

KukriKhan
04-30-2006, 12:24
Southern California:

Regular: $3.55 (84 octane)
Premium: $3.79 (92 octane)
Diesel: $3.10

(local distributors say we pay extra for Cali's "cleaner" fuels). Cost has been increasing 5-10% per week. Many predict $6 per gallon by June.

Ianofsmeg16
04-30-2006, 14:17
not sure the exact costs, but its bloody expensive here, living off the UK mainland we have to pay extra, After visiting the US this september i never want to hear you lot complain about oil prices again. the UK is alot higher

Mikeus Caesar
04-30-2006, 14:36
I'm not sure how much petrol costs at our local petrol station, but the UK average is:

96.13 pence per litre for petrol
98.81 pence per litre for diesel

Which converts to:

$6.64 a gallon (US) for petrol
$6.83 a gallon (US) for diesel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm

It's about the same here in Huddersfield.

I really don't know why you Yanks are moaning about you're "ludicrously high" petrol (not gas, gas is different) prices. You have it half of the price of the rest of the world, so shut your trap holes and get used to it.

Alexanderofmacedon
04-30-2006, 15:12
Regular 2.79
super 2.89
premenum 2.99
Deisel 2.75


:laugh4:

Keba
04-30-2006, 16:33
Off the top of my head ... and since I only use regular:

Regular: around 1.3$/liter
The rest, higher by about 0.5$

All hail govermental intervention.:2thumbsup:

Alexanderofmacedon
04-30-2006, 17:53
When is the U.S going to use Ethanol? The Brizillians seem to be having great success with it.:idea2:

BigTex
04-30-2006, 19:30
When is the U.S going to use Ethanol? The Brizillians seem to be having great success with it.:idea2:

Brazillians had success with it becuase they have a smaller country and a warmer climate. It would require huge amounts of land being devoted to growing plants/trees to get the sugar from. We really can't use pure ethanol in most of the US becuase it gets so cold, below 35F ethanol wont ignite, in some parts of the Northern US ethanol would gelly in the winter. We can eventually get to using E85 though, but it will take some time and gas stations to actually start caring it. Remember it took the Brazillians nearly 30 years to get where they are now, and they have far far fewer cars.

Crazed Rabbit
04-30-2006, 20:18
When is the U.S going to use Ethanol? The Brizillians seem to be having great success with it.:idea2:
The US is trying to use ethanol right now. Only problem is, the US isn't as good as Brazil making it, and there's a large import tariff because the Gov't is pandering to the Iowa ethanol growers.


I really don't know why you Yanks are moaning about you're "ludicrously high" petrol (not gas, gas is different) prices. You have it half of the price of the rest of the world, so shut your trap holes and get used to it.

And how much of that increased cost is due to loads of taxes? Just cause you guys rolled over for high taxes doesn't mean we can't complain since we haven't yet let our public servants become our public masters.

Crazed Rabbit

BigTex
04-30-2006, 20:24
The US is trying to use ethanol right now. Only problem is, the US isn't as good as Brazil making it, and there's a large import tariff because the Gov't is pandering to the Iowa ethanol growers.

Very true. I'm still lost as to why they want to use wood chips or corn to make ethanol. Sugar cane/sugar beats are by far more effective at producing ethanol. But still the point of using ethanol is to become energy selfsufficient so why would we want to trade one import for another?

doc_bean
04-30-2006, 20:35
Very true. I'm still lost as to why they want to use wood chips or corn to make ethanol. Sugar cane/sugar beats are by far more effective at producing ethanol. But still the point of using ethanol is to become energy selfsufficient so why would we want to trade one import for another?

Because one ISN'T from the middle east aka countries supporting terrorism against the US ?

(broad generalization, but if you're going to demonize, at least act like you're avoiding the demons...)

BigTex
04-30-2006, 20:53
Because one ISN'T from the middle east aka countries supporting terrorism against the US ?

(broad generalization, but if you're going to demonize, at least act like you're avoiding the demons...)

The other one is supporting drug cartels. If were going to switch to using a different fuel then we should at least make sure we avoid the mistake of becoming dependent on other countries for it.

Boohugh
04-30-2006, 23:40
The sooner the big US car companies take serious steps to develop low-cost hydrogen powered cars, the better imo. Low cost, pollution-free fuel for everyone then.

BigTex
05-01-2006, 00:14
The sooner the big US car companies take serious steps to develop low-cost hydrogen powered cars, the better imo. Low cost, pollution-free fuel for everyone then.

Currently the only way to get hydrogen in sufficient quantities to fuel cars is by burning natural gas. Which destroys the point of "pollution-free fuel" and having fuel cell cars. you'd create far more pollution at the moment by getting the hydrogen then by using gas to power cars. I also highly doubt that there would be 0 ecological side effects to dumping large amounts of water in area's day after day. Ethanol or E85 is a better idea then hydrogen until they can get hydrogen from a different source in sufficient quantities. Also the fuel cell panels don't last very long, you'd be constantly replacing fuel cell panel after fuel cell panel in your car, which creates lots of garbage. Fuel cells arent a great idea for cars, its a better idea for power plants, or something else on a larger scale.

Zain
05-01-2006, 01:15
Regular 2.79
super 2.89
premenum 2.99
Deisel 2.75


:laugh4:

Regular 2.79
super 2.89
premenum 2.99
Deisel 2.75

:laugh4:

Csargo
05-01-2006, 01:42
I'm sure Mine gas is about the same as SFTS and Zain's or BigTex or about the same.

Samurai Waki
05-01-2006, 03:58
3.12 USD Unleaded
3.32 USD Premium
3.63 USD Super Premium
3.90 USD Diesel

Southern California *mumbles*

Tachikaze
05-01-2006, 07:23
About $3.25 per gallon here in La Mesa today.

I figure for an SUV owner, it's equivilent to $6.50, since I get twice the fuel mileage in my small Mazda pickup and Toyota Corolla.

My wife pretty much has to drive to work, due to San Diego's awful mass transit system. I can take the train, however. I love it!

Samurai Waki
05-01-2006, 07:30
Santa Barbara is terrible. Its like 50 cents more here than LA.

Haudegen
05-01-2006, 07:45
In addition to the debate here on alternative fuel: Does anyone know if the diesel fuel that is made out of canola/rape-seed has any severe disadvantages? I don´t know a lot about it but I imagine it would be a potentially infinite source for fuel. And in terms of pollution it seems good, too because the plants draw C02 out of the atmosphere. Last but not least I think it would secure the jobs of many, many farmers.

So, I think it sounds basically great.

Does anyone know about disadvantages?

Ser Clegane
05-01-2006, 07:58
In addition to the debate here on alternative fuel: Does anyone know if the diesel fuel that is made out of canola/rape-seed has any severe disadvantages? I don´t know a lot about it but I imagine it would be a potentially infinite source for fuel. And in terms of pollution it seems good, too because the plants draw C02 out of the atmosphere. Last but not least I think it would secure the jobs of many, many farmers.

So, I think it sounds basically great.

Does anyone know about disadvantages?

The disadvantage of canola/rape-sees based fuel (aka "biodiesel") is that it makes relatively inefficient use of the plant as it takes only a faction of the plants (i.e. the "vegetable oil") for conversion into fuel.
The area you would have to use to replace a significant share of conventional fuel with biodiesel are tremendous, so that for most European countries this is not really a feasible large-scale option (add to that the negative effects that large areas with monoculture would have on the soil).

Regarding the fuel cell - you can almost forget about it for the use in "normal" passenger cars.
Almost nobody considers it to be a realistic option in the foreseeable future. costs for setting up a network of "gas stations" that could supply cars with hydrogen are too ridiculous (due to the pressure and/or temperature requirements for the storage of hydrogen).
It might be an option for large fleets of cars/trucks/buses though

Xiahou
05-01-2006, 08:15
Cheapest I've seen lately is $2.88/gal for regular

As a sidenote, unless your car specifically calls for a higher octane, there's absolutely no reason to ever buy it- you're just throwing money away. :book:

spmetla
05-01-2006, 08:16
$3.57 Regular
$3.67 Plus
$3.77 Super

I don't really mind the gas prices. My dad always reminds me not to compalin because despite how expensive it is compared to a few years ago it's still cheaper than what he paid for gas in the late 80s when we lived in Austria.

doc_bean
05-01-2006, 10:46
In addition to the debate here on alternative fuel: Does anyone know if the diesel fuel that is made out of canola/rape-seed has any severe disadvantages? I don´t know a lot about it but I imagine it would be a potentially infinite source for fuel. And in terms of pollution it seems good, too because the plants draw C02 out of the atmosphere. Last but not least I think it would secure the jobs of many, many farmers.

So, I think it sounds basically great.

Does anyone know about disadvantages?

In addition to what Ser Clegane said, they aren't fit for use in current state of the art diesel engines that use direct injection (something to do with how they burn/ignite I believe).

as for fuel prices:

super 98+ 6.97
super 95 6.84
diesel 5.45

(expressed in $/US liquid gallon)

Haudegen
05-01-2006, 12:41
Thanks for the infos, guys. But biodiesel seems to have the potential to supply at least a good part of our fuel demand. IMHO the production and usage of biodiesel should be increased while decreasing the consumption of conventional diesel.

Xiahou
05-01-2006, 15:01
Thanks for the infos, guys. But biodiesel seems to have the potential to supply at least a good part of our fuel demand. IMHO the production and usage of biodiesel should be increased while decreasing the consumption of conventional diesel.I'd be a proponent of that approach as well. Diesel engines on their own are more efficient than gasoline-powered ones, no? So to take that and start mixing standard diesel fuels with bio sources seems like an excellent way to put a dent in our overall oil consumption.

doc_bean
05-01-2006, 16:00
I forgot to mention: biodiesel is about twice as expensive to produce as regular diesel...

yesdachi
05-01-2006, 16:17
West Michigan seems to be hovering around $3 / gallon, A good 5 cents more on the busy intersections.

lars573
05-01-2006, 17:19
Regular is $1.20/litre. Deisel is $1/litre. In yankee $ that's $1.068/litre. Convert to gallons that's $4.04/Gal. Deisel is $3.37/Gal.

Duke Malcolm
05-01-2006, 17:35
Well, we used to have a Shell petrol station along the raod which did relatively cheap petrol -- always a penny or so lower than the Tesco Petrol Station.

Now we only have the Tesco Petrol Station nearby, which was:
93.9 pence/litre for petrol
this was up about 2 pence from last week, I think...

I heard tell of petrol prices in the Isles being over £1 per litre some time ago...

Kaiser of Arabia
05-02-2006, 01:53
3.03 USD regular
3.10 USD the next thing above regular
3.20 USD premium I THINK.