Anybody from/at/knowing The Hague? Need help right now! yes, right NOW!!!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Hey, where do you go if you need some Dutchistanies? Of course the ORG Frontroom! :laugh4: I'll -hopefully- be at The Hague on (and maybe around) the 22nd/23rd of May for the entrance exams to the Royal Conservatory. Can anybody recommend a budget yet quality place to stay? A cheap but clean hotel or something else?

Also, as a lower priority, do you know any good places serving Muslim or Kosher (Jewish) food? (Lower priority because at worst case I'll manage with vegetarian menus etc.)

C'mon mates! :juggle2:
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[LeftEyeNine]

The Org feels like a vassal state of Netherlands already, so I'm sure you'll get what you need here.

Good luck on your journey and your exams, bro. I'm glad that you are close to your ambitions.

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[Mouzafphaerre]

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[Louis VI the Fat]

Also, as a lower priority, do you know any good places serving Muslim or Kosher (Jewish) food? There are plenty of places that serve Halal food in northwest Europe nowadays. Any stroll through a busy area should find you one. It shouldn't be a problem. They don't just serve Muslims, Turkish food is quite popular.


Can anybody recommend a budget yet quality place to stay? A cheap but clean hotel or something else?
A budget place to stay in the Hague? Uh, claiming you're guilty of genocide? :idea2:

[Mouzafphaerre]

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:laugh4: OK, screw the budget part. I'm looking at online booking sites (I have to provide a not necessarily true booking record to receive the visa) and a certain Empire Hotel costs €35 per night. I'll need to stay for maximum 2 nights, which won't bankrupt me (my *ehm* financers that is).

That sort of thing. Around 35€, never exceeding 50€. I don't want to pay more for an exam I'm not guaranteed to win. ~;)
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[Fragony]

Go to 'scheveningen', it's close to Den Haag and has the added benefit of a beach, and plenty of hotels. And you shouldn't have any trouble finding muslim/kosher food.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I can stay the night(s) in Amsterdam or any nearby town too. The travel times are funny! :laugh4: A two hour ride is a daily short trip within Istanbul. :wall:
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[doc_bean]

Turkish food is quite popular.


I've always doubted the Hallal-ness of our kebab though, I'm sure there's pork in there somewhere...

[Brutus]

I actually live very close to The Hague (Leiden), and a good friend of mine is from there. However, he is in Italy at the moment, so I couldn't ask him.

Here are some sites:

Official visitors site (http://www.denhaag.com/default.asp?id=DOORWAYNEWS-uk)

Restaurants in The Hague (http://www.iens.nl/english/restaurantsIn/DenHaag/index.htms?PHPSESSID=6fce787954a665ca49bb563763807fb8)

As I never stay in The Hague myself, I can't really recommend any places to stay. If you're searching on the web, it might help to remember that in Dutch, The Hague is actually called either 's Gravenhage (officially) or Den Haag (colloquially).

Are you planning to Study in The Hague Mouzafphaerre?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I hope so, if I pass the exams. But as I said above, travel times are nothing compared to going from one side of Istanbul to another, so I don't have to stay inside Den Haag.

Comon guys, show me a place to sleep! :jumping: It may be in The Hague, Amsterdam or somewhere in two hours' reach from the Hague.
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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Cancel alarm! A friend from Zoetermeer has just invited me to his house! ~D :balloon:
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[Fragony]

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Cancel alarm! A friend from Zoetermeer has just invited me to his house! ~D :balloon:
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I'll be........

Out of all towns he has to be invited by someone from Zoetermeer, one of the most depressing towns in the Netherlands! Nothing but boring concrete, it truely has the charm of a pregnant spider :no:

[Somebody Else]

the charm of a pregnant spider :no:

Do you know any? If so... :jumping::spider:~:pimp:

[Geoffrey S]

Cancel alarm! A friend from Zoetermeer has just invited me to his house!
Live my first few years there, it is a bleak place. But I just checked the train time, and it looks like a train leaves there every fifteen minutes and arrives with in ten.

Good luck!

[Fragony]

Do you know any? If so... :jumping::spider:~:pimp:

I know them all, don't ask me why ~;) Being me is so much fun, it would be a crime not to share it, bring 6 friends yay!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I'll be........

Out of all towns he has to be invited by someone from Zoetermeer, one of the most depressing towns in the Netherlands! Nothing but boring concrete, it truely has the charm of a pregnant spider :no:


Live my first few years there, it is a bleak place. But I just checked the train time, and it looks like a train leaves there every fifteen minutes and arrives with in ten.

Good luck!
Very encouraging! :laugh4: Now take this: Average travel time from one place in Istanbul to another on public transport during the busy hours (not much, just 12 of the 24 :laugh4:) is an hour. You have to share your town with 12 million tailless primates, all of whom being from somewhere else, even if they were born there :inquisitive:; spitting, sliming, pissing and swearing on it... (Backroomish rant:)While the headmaster proves his manhood to the little students giving a fascist/conformist lecture about the revolutions and half made up heroic deeds of forgotten times, rascals smoke their weed sitting on the back wall of the school right across the street, at the very heart of the historical peninsula, 6 minute walk from the local government buildings and behind the nose of the police patrols who have forsaken the street for the past 9 months... :wall:

I would consider finding a way of never returning, hadn't I loved this messy hole this crazily! ~:mecry: I took a longish walk home tonight from a friend's and made sure once again that I can never ever leave it permanently... :no:
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[Louis VI the Fat]

You have to share your town with 12 million tailless primates, all of whom being from somewhere else, even if they were born there ; spitting, sliming, pissing and swearing on it...

While the headmaster gives a conformist lecture about the revolutions and half made up heroic deeds of forgotten times, rascals smoke their weed sitting on the back wall of the school right across the street, at the very heart of the historical peninsula, 6 minute walk from the local government buildings and behind the nose of the police patrols who have forsaken the street for the past 9 months...
Wait, you never told us you're from Paris...

[Mouzafphaerre]

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You would regret your words in two months Monsieur Capet! :laugh4: Still, I guess we both have the right to laugh at these Dutchies complaining about loneliness and bleak towns. ~;)
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[doc_bean]

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You would regret your words in two months Monsieur Capet! :laugh4: Still, I guess we both have the right to laugh at these Dutchies complaining about loneliness and bleak towns. ~;)
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You've never been to Holland have you ? Those endless rows of similar houses, all bleak, with as little personal touch as possible are one of the most depressing things I've ever seen.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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For six days (including the arrival and leave) and five nights I don't think I'll mind as little personal touch as possible. ~;) Endless rows of similar houses... I remember somebody mentioning that. Still it can't be worse than endless rows of similar piles of cement.
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[Mithrandir]

http://www.tresoar.nl/educatie/woningwet/W3/Gedichten/Weerklanknu_DAT180104.jpg

borrowed from

http://www.tresoar.nl

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Doesn't look bad at all. Might be boring after a while though.

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One could get lost easily if all the streets look alike. ~:eek:
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[LeftEyeNine]

Oh, I hope the people do not rush into their neighbor's houses over there.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Don't you guys have any dirty jokes abut such err, situations? :laugh4:
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[Fragony]

You've never been to Holland have you ? Those endless rows of similar houses, all bleak, with as little personal touch as possible are one of the most depressing things I've ever seen.

Wait, someone from Fugliestan is calling Holland depressing? If you want the joy drained right out of you visit the endless grey called Belgium, it could suck the fun out of a blowjob.

But, you will always have Brugge, and we want it back.

[doc_bean]

Wait, someone from Fugliestan is calling Holland depressing? If you want the joy drained right out of you visit the endless grey called Belgium, it could suck the fun out of a blowjob.

Were do you find this endless grey ? Most of our houses are build with red bricks...



But, you will always have Brugge, and we want it back.

It was never yours !

[Fragony]

Were do you find this endless grey ? Most of our houses are build with red bricks...


The most upper north perhaps, that looks pretty decent, almost dutch standards ~;) The more you go south the sadder it gets, and when you reach Wallonie you feel like there was never a reason to ever smile. Gray gray gray and more gray. Worst is when you enter belgium from Maastricht, don't know what that town is called but geez just kill me now, I can't take it :shame:

[doc_bean]

The most upper north perhaps, that looks pretty decent, almost dutch standards ~;) The more you go south the sadder it gets, and when you reach Wallonie you feel like there was never a reason to ever smile. Gray gray gray and more gray. Worst is when you enter belgium from Maastricht, don't know what that town is called but geez just kill me now, I can't take it :shame:

I live in the nice area :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

[Fragony]

I live in the nice area :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

Good for you, now if you have enough room to fit couch there sit down and marvel at the world famous dutch architecture as to be found in my town for example,

modern:
http://images.google.nl/images?svnum=10&hl=nl&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=kattenbroek&btnG=Zoeken
old:
http://images.google.nl/images?svnum=10&hl=nl&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=binnenstad+amersfoort&btnG=Zoeken

pfffffffffft red bricks :hide:

[doc_bean]

Seems nicer than some Dutch places I've been to at least, still, I'd rather stay in Leuven (http://images.google.be/images?q=leuven&hl=nl&btnG=Afbeeldingen+zoeken)

[Fragony]

http://www.marianne-louis.be/images/leuven-oude-markt..jpg

Absolutily gorgious, Belgium medieval towns are always a bit more majestic, Brugge is my favorite (never been in Leuven, looks awesome) But nothing beats my favorite structure,

http://www.historisch-amersfoort.nl/koppelpoort.jpg

Almost 800 years old, god I love that stuff :2thumbsup:

[Red Peasant]

Lol!
The Dutchies and the Belgies slagging each other off reminds me of uni. They only let up when they could gang up on a German!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Good news for Dutchistan. They refused me the visa.
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[Geoffrey S]

Bastards. Did they give any reason why? Immigrants have been having a hard time in the press for a while now, but refusing someone who wants to study here seems wrong. :no:

What are you planning on doing now?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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They treated me as an illegal immigrant under cover, yes. Nice to see there are enough, ehm, peers in the international scene to team up with ours. Kissie:

:turkey: :cheerleader: :netherlands:

Even if I can't come there, I technically have the chance to pass the exam. Then there will be next year and I know no borderlines to filter out a germ like Mouzafphaerre with such a long term at hand to plan beforehand! :laugh4:
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[LeftEyeNine]

I don't want to say a word that would lean towards politics, I can sniff rusted bloody metal around.

All I can say is that I'm disappointed to see that you got refused for a visa. I hope you evaluate that "technical" chance, bro :bow:

[Ludens]

They treated me as an illegal immigrant under cover, yes. Nice to see there are enough, ehm, peers in the international scene to team up with ours. Kissie:

:turkey: :cheerleader: :netherlands:

Even if I can't come there, I technically have the chance to pass the exam. Then there will be next year and I know no borderlines to filter out a germ like Mouzafphaerre with such a long term at hand to plan beforehand! :laugh4:
It shouldn't be that hard to stay in the Netherlands: half my foreign co-workers do not have proper papers either. Possibly the regulations have become so complex that even the immigration police has trouble working them out :dizzy2: .

Good luck with the exam, Mouz.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Thanks Ludens. :balloon2:
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[Louis VI the Fat]

Alas, the frontroom is not the place for politics. Let me try to circumvent the rules by relating a famous incident:

In 1929 the Indian (from India, not native American) poet Tagore was forced to cancel a lecture tour in the US because he was denied entry. This prompted the first Asian Nobel laureate to remark that if Jesus Christ himself were to come to America, he would be kicked out of the country - because he was an Asiatic.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Does it mean I may receive a Nobel for this? ~D
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[Fragony]

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Good news for Dutchistan. They refused me the visa.
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Ha tolerate that :laugh4:

Now serious, sorry to hear that Mouz. :shame:

[Mouzafphaerre]

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No need to be sorry mate. I would do the same (refuse them the visa)! :laugh4:
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