Romantic Units

[johnmcd]

The units have different capabilities on the field which have mostly been discussed at length (though the Tesla Trooper seems sadly neglected), I wondered which people found most romantically appealing though. A wedge of monks charging out of woods or a flight of horses rampaging across a river flood plain?

I like to see the massed ranks of a thousand ashigaru rush an enemy best for sheer spectacle.

[Tachikaze]

A hail of arrows from massed archers.

[Moriboy]

I'm sort of partial to a stampeeding mob of rouge pantaloon NoDachi Samurai. Ya gotta love those sword wielding maniacs...

[Puzz3D]

Yari cavalry sweeping down out of the woods into the flank of archers/guns after all the enemy hth troops have gone forward. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

MizuYuuki ~~~
Clan Takiyama ~~~

[ShaiHulud]

A Cavalry charge is grand, but monks running downhill upon your troops has the most unsettling effect, I'd say..hehe

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Wind fells blossoms, rain
fells steel,yet bamboo bends and drinks

[Nelson]

Thunderous teppo
dropping many of my foes
like cherry blossoms

[Kokueater]

A Geisha killing a priest with a bomb

[Shiro]

Heavy cav coming down a mountain. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Draksen]

All Total War Shogun's units are WAR units.
That means that they are created to kill, destroy and annihilate other units.

IMO, there is nothing "romantic" in death.
It's cold and cruel, like war.

I think that it can be interesting, but never "romantic", sorry.

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[Hosakawa Tito]

My Teppo standing in three deep formation,
with soiled undies,and as the smoke drifts away the dead monks and no-dachi's piled at their feet.whew! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Tito

[solypsist]

While I can't say it's romantic, only stunning to see, it has to be when the front lines on both armies surge forward at the same time, end to end (it looks better on a flat surface) and meet in the middle with that crash of battle

[BakaGaijin]

In traditional Japanese estimation, the most romantic unit would certainly be the Cavalry Archers, masters of bow and horse!

[Heims30]

Nothing more heart-warming than seeing your vastly outnumbered monks pull an underdog victory out, even when they don't take full advantage of the terrain.

[Minagawa Daimon]

id say my high honor nodachi with 90% casualty and only a handful remain as the only unit on your field make a stand, and even charging the opponents whole army all by itself, just like one of the generals of the western army when the rest of the western army were running away, and all of them killed for that futile but valiant charge.Kantorai-shido kenchikuka!

[ShaiHulud]

Nelson...Well done!

How about..

Thunderous teppo
my foe blushes red petals
like cherry blossoms

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Wind fells blossoms, rain
fells steel,yet bamboo bends and drinks

[This message has been edited by ShaiHulud (edited 02-15-2001).]

[johnmcd]

Quote Originally posted by Draksen:
I think that it can be interesting, but never "romantic", sorry.
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I mean ‘romantic’ in the classical eighteenth century way, like Shelly and Byron. War was romanticised then, goodness knows it was brutal too, but play along…

[Nelson]

A nice improvement, Shai! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Before I was carried away by a haikukaze, I was thinking along the lines of soly's post. The panoramic spectacle of 2000 men in 16 formations coming your way while your own men stand stoicly awaiting their fate is awsome like no other game can match. It reminds me of the legions deploying in Spartacus.

The hatamoto is potentially the most romantic unit in the game. Consider the classic Japanese denouement. Send the daimyo and his hatamoto to a certain fate when you know all is lost. It is the final act. Life and death are the same.

[ShaiHulud]

Nelson...Now courtesy requires that I attempt one for you to play on....Hmmm,
I'll base it on your last post....

Dread seas of bright swords
Waves dashing on stoic stones
recede unavailed



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Wind fells blossoms, rain
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[FearedSangsara]

Just a cool little romantic story that happened to me yesterday. I was playing as Hojo on Expert. I had taken Uesugi's lands. all he had left was shinano and that little island up top. I had killed Uesugi in the battle that gave me Dewa and his son was pissed! I had a small force in Dewa (that place with the river up top and the silver mine, think its called dewa), but all my other forces had decent strength. My son was in charge of the little force in Dewa. So Uesugi attacks Dewa with everything he has from Shinano. I had like 400 men, he had like 950. I held their first two attacks over the bridge, my archers having a field day, but after tht second failed charge, Uesugi himself started to rout. So I chased, but when I crossed the bridge, he had 5 units of archers who wouldnt rout and held me till Uesugi and his Ashigaru could reform and come attack me, My small, tired units wouldnt hold for long and we routed. My Son/General was in a unit of YS, and Uesugi and his 2 fellow heavy cav were chasin us down, so instead of ending the battle, I wanted to watch to see if my Son (who was a 4th ranked general) would survive. And here is where the great part comes in. My general was fleeing for his life, with no other men around him except for 1 lonely little archer. This archer was running backwards and thwarting of any attacks Uesugi's men tried to make on my general/son. At one point, the other 2 heavy cav in Uesugi's personal gurds made an attempt at my general. This little Archer forced them both back and battled them just long enough to ensure that my general/son could get away!
That man's family will be rich for the rest of their generations!!

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[Hosakawa Tito]

That is a great story,the lone samurai giving his life for his lord.It is a good day to die!
Tito

[johnmcd]

Did the archer die?

Playing Shimazu I built a castle in Nagato (or whatever the province at the end of Mori’s land is called) only for it to promptly come under seige by a huge Mori force. My force of twenty archers held it against relentless attacks of Mori forces of around a hundred for six seasons before I could organise a relief force. By that time I had four men left, with an honour of five (before their general bonus) who entered into legend for their heroic defence of my border.

[Anssi Hakkinen]

It was before noon in the province of Etchû, though no one could really tell. An oppressive cover of clouds had blanketed the area for more than a week, and this morning it had once again erupted in pelting rain. Nevertheless, the White Army of the Holy Lotus advanced relentlessly.

The legendary Ikkô-Ikki general, Ryôken, had amassed his forces in Echigo for several months. During those months, the Ikkô-Ikki holdings had been prepostrously ravaged by the invading Oda warbands. Now Ryôken had finally reached a decision: the time had come to act. The supposedly finest elements of the Oda army, commanded by the daimyô's legendary son Nobunaga, were besieging the Ikkô-Ikki capital in Kaga. Meanwhile, another, smaller Oda army, commanded by the old Oda daimyô Nobuhide himself, had marched on Etchû. Ryôken hoped to beat them back and slay the hated daimyô with a swift counter-attack: after all, his forces were numerically superior, and reinforced by three regiments of sôhei warrior monks, they were all but invincible.

At the moment, the army was marching up a steep hill, the rain beating down upon the ranks of spearmen. The enemy was somewhere above, but it was uncertain where: the archers were firing half-blindly into the rain. As no response fell upon his troops, Ryôken deduced that the enemy was still negotiating the hill himself, and gave the order to move faster in order to crest the hill before the Oda troops did.

At that moment, the rain suddenly ceased, the clouds parting above the battlefield as if the gods themselves had pulled aside a curtain.

And there, on the top of the hill, awaited seven full Imperial Amaterasu Omikami regiments, their blazing-red suits of armor dripping, their drawn no-dachi gleaming in the just-revealed sun. Above them, the still-wet banners of the Oda clan, the Imperial Yamato Household and the Rising Sun of Japan fluttered in the rising wind. Conch-shell trumpets sounded, and a mighty cry arose as the samurai charged down the hill straight at their prey to fight the battle known to future generations as the Battle of Shining Swords...

(Who cares about the Pulitzers, I'm going for the Oscars http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif)

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[This message has been edited by Anssi Hakkinen (edited 02-16-2001).]

[ShaiHulud]

Ansi..hehe..great write and it's gotta hurt when the mist clears THAT way!

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Wind fells blossoms, rain
fells steel,yet bamboo bends and drinks

[The Scourge]

I suppose i like Yari Cavalry best.But one of the best things to see in the game ,is the sight of Yari Samurai ,lowering their Yari's ,just before the moment of impact.
Ill often bring the camera round to the side,just to see that.

[Katasaki Hirojima]

A wave of Yari Samurai going over a hill,their spears lowering as they sweep into their poor vicitms.

The mighty booms and crashes and smoke of a all teppo battle.

And of course,the charge of heavy cavalry rideing down all that stand against them.

Personnaly,I'd like to see a army of Hoplites crash into a army of Yari Samurai.

[Minagawa Daimon]

for me, the truly tragic yet heroic act would be to see the daimyo of his clan is all thats left on the field making a last stand with his loyal hatamotos when the rest of his army has abandoned him, truly tragic and futile but they fight on to the last man. attu gyokusai kenchikuka.!

[Jester san]

I've had two very rememerable moments.
The first i described in the screen shot thread (no screen shot, but i posted the reply before this thread was up).

The second was the first battle in campain mode, a bridge fight where i was defending (as Takada in Mushashi vs Hojo). The enemy outnumbered me by 3/2. After a large fight (YS and SA) my forces started to rout. I sent in my daymio's unit, as the only un-commited and currently standing unit. Very quickly the force was reduce to just him and the enemy were starting to push him back. At this moment the routing rabble decided they could not all run while one man held back the evil tide, they rallyed and i charged them in to save Takada. Eventualy Hojo had enough and his forces routed, i chased them all the way home.

As to scenes my heart stirs to the sight of a thousand men appearing out of heavy fog, especially with a cloud of arrows overhead.

I hope this doesn't sound to sad but i quite like zooming along the battle field while paused, checking out the 3D rain and arrows, or follow the path of a arrow to its destination.

[Minagawa Daimon]

"Jester" did u get your name from the movie "Storm riders"??? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

[Stazbumpa]

For me a massed cavalry charge , at least 300 of the buggers, across the plains and crashing into the enemy.

Also a horde of screaming Monks barrelling out of the treeline works.

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[Katasaki Hirojima]

A full blown musket battle.Nothing on the field but muskets,slowly marching up to each other.Then they stop,load,fire and the battle begins.And to see those clouds and plumes of smoke rolling over the field as might booms and cracks filling the air,coupled with the screams that follow each blast.

And,of course,the ever popular army of Yari Samurai charging downhill upon their opponents,flags waving,spears lowered,and that weird charging noise going.

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[Jester san]

Quote Originally posted by Minagawa Daimon:
"Jester" did u get your name from the movie "Storm riders"??? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]

I've not seen storm riders - but it must be good http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Actually I got this name when my frends and I were randomly adding ..ster to the end of any noun (was due to watching too much WWF, but I cann't remember why that did it).

My actual first name is Jes(se).

Not very intersting, but true.



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[Minagawa Daimon]

oh i see, yep storm riders is made in the same way like "crouching tiger hidden dragon"(whew long name), its a hit in some parts of asia but not hir in the states, wouldnt even have heard of it had my friend not referred it to me.