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From the You-Gotta-Laugh department.
(Please note that all of these quotes relate to Clinton's Bosnia adventure in 1999.)
"You can support the troops but not the president."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99
"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush
"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
Alexander the Pretty Good
05-17-2006, 21:14
Oof. Some of those are eye-openers.
The_Emperor
05-17-2006, 21:22
Governments change, the incompetence and excuses stay the same.
The Black Ship
05-17-2006, 21:41
What he said.
BTW, we're still in the Balkans so guess some of the sentiments ring true.
The_Emperor
05-17-2006, 21:43
UK is still in Afghanistan and many other places as I recall.
The best we can hope for is that their presence is beneficial and not a drain on resources.
Don Corleone
05-17-2006, 22:04
Uhm, Lemur, what's your point? That when the offices change hands, so do the arguments? I don't disagree. When you hear Democrats whining about a bloated budget, and Republicans talking about the need for Medicare Part D, yes, the Yin is Yang. Are you just realizing this?
Vladimir
05-17-2006, 22:17
Just like I said before: There are two political parties in America, the Majority party and the Minority party.
Edit: 777 baby!!!
Uhm, Lemur, what's your point?
My point is that it's funny. If it doesn't make you laugh, then you're on a different page.
master of the puppets
05-17-2006, 22:24
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
it sure made me laugh:laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4:
yeah master it made me laugh too
Don Corleone
05-18-2006, 00:02
My point is that it's funny. If it doesn't make you laugh, then you're on a different page.
I guess, but honestly, I find it sad. Everytime you have some glimmer of hope that they actually act on principal, you read one of these types of things.
Divinus Arma
05-18-2006, 00:14
It didn't make me laugh. It made me poop.
edit: Oh, I'm sorry. Was that too juvenile? Sorry. I'm in a chipper mood right now.
BHCWarman88
05-18-2006, 01:56
From the You-Gotta-Laugh department.
"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99
To Defend the USA,that why..
Yeah Lemur, I must agree,they were some eye openers,but Funny still..
:sweatdrop:
It didn't make me laugh. It made me poop.
edit: Oh, I'm sorry. Was that too juvenile? Sorry. I'm in a chipper mood right now.
Like explosive diahrea poop or regular poop?:sweatdrop:
Kralizec
05-18-2006, 02:30
Wrong thread, DA. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=64287)
Zalmoxis
05-18-2006, 03:03
it sure made me laugh:laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4:
Well, what goes around comes around, therefore anyone who states this when speaking of George W. Bush has increased his chance of becoming president.
This one is, possibly, even funnier. Conservatives object to our rights being trampled by this new, secret "FISA" court! (http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a27337612f5.htm)
Don Corleone
05-18-2006, 15:52
If you're looking for examples of how party strategy changes when the opposition party versus being in control, Lemur, all you need to do is try to find an argument by which you can justify Medicare Part D (aka the drug company giveaway) stictly by quotes found in the original Contract With America. Cannot be done. :no: Shame on me for believing them back then. "Put us in office, and this is what we'll do". More like "Put us in office, and we'll do a number on you". Any good royalist or marxist candidates out there? I'm open to any party that will actually adhere to it's professed philospophy once in office...
Cheer up, Don. There might be a change in the wind. (http://www.amhersttimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1572&Itemid=27)
PanzerJaeger
05-18-2006, 19:55
Any good royalist or marxist candidates out there? I'm open to any party that will actually adhere to it's professed philospophy once in office...
I could direct you toward some fascists with an enlightened world view. Just because it didnt work in the '40s doesnt mean it never will. :2thumbsup:
KafirChobee
05-18-2006, 21:28
It is the irony of the statements, and who said them. That is humorous. Were you to remove the identification of the persons making the quotes, (or their outrage over FISA - 7500 peeps over 20 years ain't that many. Versus +5,000,000 today without FISA or any legitimate oversight what so ever) and one would think they are talking about Iraq. The complainers being Dems of course.
BTW, the "we" in Bosnia today is the UN. We had a plan, a complete and articulate one. Not so in Iraq - where our leaders thought we would be treated as liberators ..... and incase we weren't they brought their own enthusiatic "arabs" with them. See "Control Room" (on DVD), if you don't believe it.
Still, thanks Lemur - for making me smile at the absurdity of it all.
Spetulhu
05-19-2006, 02:04
It is the irony of the statements, and who said them. That is humorous. Were you to remove the identification of the persons making the quotes, (or their outrage over FISA - 7500 peeps over 20 years ain't that many. Versus +5,000,000 today without FISA or any legitimate oversight what so ever) and one would think they are talking about Iraq. The complainers being Dems of course.
The moderator at another site I use to visit posted a long list of these quotes. It didn't take very long before the local republitard was screeching about disloyal citizens and stuff. If someone doesn't support the President he's obviously a terrorist sympathiser who should be deported! :laugh4:
BHCWarman88
05-20-2006, 03:30
:sweatdrop:
Like explosive diahrea poop or regular poop?:sweatdrop:
or just plain poop??
Byzantine Prince
05-20-2006, 03:37
Uhm, Lemur, what's your point?
The point is to burn conservatives. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRN!
(That felt sooo good):2thumbsup:
This reminds me of a forum i visited a few years ago. One of forum members churned out a couple of sacred cow pictures (think political satire except minus the satire..... and the humour) with some pictures implying that the dems would have pussed out in world war 2
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/if_it_happened_today.jpg
the creators wit and insight is matched by his skills with photoshop but i digress. Sombody commented that it was actually the Republicans who opposed fighting the second world war of coarse when this was brought up our protagonist explained that the Republicams of the past had noble heroic and totally understandable causes for opposing war with nazi germany and Japan when it was chewing up half of europe in contrast to the democrats who were all traitors.
First rule of politics: what applies to them doesnt apply to you....plus it helps to have the memory of a soap actor.
Strike For The South
05-20-2006, 18:38
I could direct you toward some fascists with an enlightened world view. Just because it didnt work in the '40s doesnt mean it never will. :2thumbsup:
A system that supports big buisness and big goverment? Shoot me now
Kaiser of Arabia
05-20-2006, 18:47
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/if_it_happened_today.jpg
That pic made me laugh.
Oh and SFTS, if you *really* want me to shoot you now, I can, but I mean.... meh?
Kralizec
05-20-2006, 19:16
The guy who created that pic is either a moron, or a revisionist historian (probably both), because Kerry is right in that pic- Germany had absolutely nothing to do with Pearl Harbour and if they were calling the shots, America wouldn't have entered the war for years later.
_Martyr_
05-20-2006, 19:19
Yeah, strange or totally ignorant picture, I cant decide!
Kaiser of Arabia
05-20-2006, 19:54
It was still funny. ~D
That pic made me laugh.
Oh and SFTS, if you *really* want me to shoot you now, I can, but I mean.... meh?
Well I figured their must be somebody who'd find it funny, I now somebody buys coulter and moore books..... but still....you seriously find that funny? It's so dumb it actually makes my front lobe hurt looking at it. It's up there with those bushitler posters or that third reich/israel comparison. I mean it's actually quite hard to articulate how dumb the picture is(not to mention the site it came from). It makes rome's AI look like a genius.
Kaiser of Arabia
05-20-2006, 22:18
I find humor in stupidity. I have to. If you knew some of the people I have to argue against IRL, you'd know why.
Ironside
05-20-2006, 23:46
The guy who created that pic is either a moron, or a revisionist historian (probably both), because Kerry is right in that pic- Germany had absolutely nothing to do with Pearl Harbour and if they were calling the shots, America wouldn't have entered the war for years later.
Or it seems that he's right on about 2 levels above him (you're 1 level above him). What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
Well he could be "spot on" on that one, but Mithras comments about his Republican ramblings seems to indicate that he isn't.
Kralizec
05-21-2006, 00:06
That possibility occurred to me, but that's obviously not the cas. Iraq had even less to do with 9/11, as Germany was at least allied to the peeps behind Pearl Harbour (the same can't be said of Saddam, no matter how you spin it)
Every time I look at that picture it seems to get more idiotic. Why the hell did the artist (a term I use liberally here) put Germany up there instead of Japan? I can really think of no reason except that he really did think Germany attacked or somehow masterminded Pearl Harbour :inquisitive:
Alexander the Pretty Good
05-21-2006, 00:27
I think you are looking too far into the picture. In an off-topic manner, no less.
Posts like the starting one just demolish any surviving respect I had for our politicians. I guess that's a good thing.
Azi Tohak
05-22-2006, 05:04
Every time I look at that picture it seems to get more idiotic. Why the hell did the artist (a term I use liberally here) put Germany up there instead of Japan? I can really think of no reason except that he really did think Germany attacked or somehow masterminded Pearl Harbour :inquisitive:
Come on now, you know the answer. All Americans are idiots, and no one here can tell the difference between Germans and Japanese. Well, except maybe with respect to car brands.
Azi
Come on now, you know the answer. All Americans are idiots, and no one here can tell the difference between Germans and Japanese. Well, except maybe with respect to car brands.
Azi
Not all Americans are idiots just most of them remember that :book:
Louis VI the Fat
05-22-2006, 05:13
Not all idiots are Americans just most of them remember that. :book:
Blody hell, I shouldn't drink and post :no:
Every American knows the difference between Germans and Japanese. Germans run those kooky camps where Hogan and his heroes make tunnels and things. Japanese people have pocket monsters named Pikachu, and they have fights with them. Somehow they keep these monsters on their belts. I've never understood that part.
Maybe not Louis though I like the quote
Having spent roughly 2 minutes considering the picture. I think that the artist is saying that 1945 Germany is like modern Iraq meaning that going to war with Iraq (in contrast to Afaghanistan which is 'Japan') and those who oppose it is the equivelent of going to war with Nazi Germany and thus opposing the Iraq war is on par with opposing world war 2.
You'll notice not only the childish name calling but also the piss poor context. Comparing the Post gulf-war Iraq to the Third reich is like comparing Dick Dastardly to Darth Vader. Their's also the issue of Germany declaring war on America as opposed to vice versa.
And of coarse the author completly neglected to consider it was the Republicans who opposed going to war with Germany.
“Not all idiots are Americans just most of them remember that”.
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