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Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 09:29
Ave, Right I am going to start a campaign as the Julii. So this will be like a campaign blog with screenshots and writing of what I am doing. What I plan on doing is go for gaul then go into spain and wait a while until I have urban cohorts then invade britian and germany. The only problem is that when I hit 50 settlements the game will stop how can I stop this from happening?

econ21
05-18-2006, 10:14
I don't think it does stop, does it? A screen comes up saying do you want to play on.

At least, that's what happened in the WRE PBM I just participated in.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 11:13
Nope I was the brutii before and it said well done I was emporer and then I clicked the tick and it closes the game and goes back to the main menu.

stalin
05-18-2006, 12:04
BI has that option, I don't think that RTW has it

Avicenna
05-18-2006, 14:29
RTW has the option for me. I think it would take far too long to wait for the Marian reforms, and you'd definitely be at war with both those factions by then.

No ambitions in the Balkans or in Africa?

stalin
05-18-2006, 15:20
Or you could put your entire army on the 2 ships and pillage the big (Syracuse carthage egyptian nile delta) cities for population and have the reforms within 10-15 years. If the gauls get any ideas the senate army usually steps in

Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 17:53
Ok thans for the feedback teh expansion has started. With ceasers army I went and took Segesta. A few turns later the senate told me to take Narbo Martius and I am not going to as it will only get me some games. I want to make as much money as I can. I am heading for Caralis. I have got trade rights with Gaul for now I am also sending my diplomat towards greece and macedon as they get most of the money. I'll take some screenshots soon.

stalin
05-18-2006, 18:39
caralis has population of about 700, it'll take 10 years before you can build a port there. just south of it sits the real prize ( lightly defended) but good luck with your campaign and have fun

Ciaran
05-18-2006, 19:13
Ave, Right I am going to start a campaign as the Julii. So this will be like a campaign blog with screenshots and writing of what I am doing. What I plan on doing is go for gaul then go into spain and wait a while until I have urban cohorts then invade britian and germany. The only problem is that when I hit 50 settlements the game will stop how can I stop this from happening?

It will not stop if Rome isn´t among the fifty provinces, and as long as you´ve got at least patch 1.2 (that´s the earliest version I´ve played with, so I don´t know what anything below is like) installed, you´re given the option to continue when you´re told that you´ve won.

Don´t worry about the Urban Cohorts not being available, considering that the Scipii and Bruti get the richer provinces to conquer, you´ll probably have the Reforms way before you can manage your own Imperial Palace, that´s what happened to me. Also, you only can attack other Roman faction when your popularity with the people is high enough, and building that will take time.

Avicenna
05-18-2006, 19:19
Or until you can build an assassin...

BM: You should blitz the two Gallic provinces from Cispaline Gaul, instead of allowing them to build troops right in your back yard. Also, you should edit your personal title to begin with 'ad', not 'Ad'. The only capitals in Roman sentences are the first letters of proper nouns, ie names.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 20:08
Well i'll proberly strike Patavium and Mediolanium when I get my next two generals. Ceaser will be one of the attacking generals and the other that I get will be put into segesta.

Thanks for the member title thing i'll do that now.

stalin
05-18-2006, 20:40
Or until you can build an assassin...


Beware of that: it no longer works.Trying to start the civil war by assasination in 1.3 and up can land you in a no man's land where other roman factions can attack you but you can't attack them. And it really sucks...

Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 20:46
Until I get my new PC I have 1.0 so it's fine for me.

Glaucus
05-18-2006, 20:53
well with 1.0, when the screen comes up telling you you have beaten the game, hit esc and save the game. Then exit to the main menu and load the game. It will be where you left off, but no message and thus you can continue to play on, even after Rome and 50 provinces.

stalin
05-18-2006, 21:04
in 1.0 you can bribe other roman armies for 50% of what it costs to recruit them( thinking of that SPQR stack)

Bombasticus Maximus
05-18-2006, 23:18
I don't tend to bribe the other romans as they cost way to much and I like to keep the families all seprate for instance no general brutus fighting for the scipii.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 00:59
Right my first screenshot. I have not had many battles so far. My profit is going up very well. I am taking my time building my towns up by building markets/roads/ports all the needed buildings to make money.

https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2940/picture0041bn.th.jpg (https://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0041bn.jpg)

That screenshot was from a few turns ago so I have more money and the Senate told me to take Mediolanium and I am going too as they will give me a reward for it. I am attacking with Ceaser who has 22 men, Another general who has only 9, some triarii and some archers. I'll take screenshots of that battle and all my settlement scrols next time.

Krauser
05-19-2006, 01:14
Don't wait for Urban Cohorts that would take way too long and you would just build up too much money. Continue conquesting with what you have. You have to wait for the Marius reforms which, in 1.0, cannot happen until sometime after 220BC. You'll have taken all of Gaul and Spain by 240-250BC and still have 20-30 years to wait.

Krauser
05-19-2006, 01:17
Right my first screenshot. I have not had many battles so far. My profit is going up very well. I am taking my time building my towns up by building markets/roads/ports all the needed buildings to make money.

https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2940/picture0041bn.th.jpg (https://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0041bn.jpg)

That screenshot was from a few turns ago so I have more money and the Senate told me to take Mediolanium and I am going too as they will give me a reward for it. I am attacking with Ceaser who has 22 men, Another general who has only 9, some triarii and some archers. I'll take screenshots of that battle and all my settlement scrols next time.

Be thankful they didn't tell you to take Narbo Martius. It seems that they always give me that one on the 4th or 5th turn when I don't have enough of an army to make it there yet.

stalin
05-19-2006, 07:01
I don't tend to bribe the other romans as they cost way to much and I like to keep the families all seprate for instance no general brutus fighting for the scipii.
I meant their units.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 09:22
They did tell me to take Narbo Martius but I never for the same reaons.

The units I may bribe when the time comes but I don't have enough money at the moment.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 11:52
I have some more screenshots of when I played this morning I will post them later. I have not taken the gaulish settlement yet because gaul sent an army to the fishing village near segesta so I easily defeated them and next turn they will siege segesta. I have trade rights with spain and am heading towards germany then onto the britions. I also have trade rights with with greece, macedon and thrace. next on the trade right list is scythia and pontus.

stalin
05-19-2006, 12:06
By the way what difficulty are you playing on?

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 16:02
M/M as I am not great as building up money. I used to edit the text files so I start with loads.

stalin
05-19-2006, 16:04
have you tried to ask your allies for some? They'll help if you attack their or even your enemies (rebels...)

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 16:05
I could do but but I have never done that if I get into a deep crisis I guess I will.

Severous
05-19-2006, 17:33
BM...well done with the screenshot and getting it onto the forum.:2thumbsup: Looking forward to your progress reports.

11K in the treasury...spend it on more troops and go get the Gauls. Pick up mercenaries on the way if you feel a bit understrength. Dont be afraid of spending all your money by the end of your turn...provided your income is always higher than your wages/costs you should be fine with more money in the bank at the start of the next turn.

Hastati, Equites, Spies will win you gaul quickly. And decide where you want to build archers and try to develop that quickly as those initial archers wont last for ever.

Months back..from my first ever campaign. Also Julii on M/M
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6135/gaulcamp73nq.th.jpg (https://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaulcamp73nq.jpg)
Seems I should have followed my own advice...and spent more money expanding the army.

Avicenna
05-19-2006, 18:15
So, if it only doesn't work on 1.3. BM, which version do you play?

Bombasticus Maximus
05-19-2006, 18:22
So, if it only doesn't work on 1.3. BM, which version do you play?

1.0 until I get my new PC.

Here is the screenshot attached to my last post.
https://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1507/picture0021my.th.jpg (https://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0021my.jpg)

stalin
05-19-2006, 18:38
1.2 doesn't affect the performance does it?I play on a laptop with 900 series intel mobility chip and manage on large settings 1400X1050 without too many hiccups

Avicenna
05-20-2006, 07:56
Then you can use assassinations to trigger the war :2thumbsup:

Bombasticus Maximus
05-20-2006, 10:10
Mediolaniun is mine although Caeser was killed by stinking gauls.

This is the battle stats before I fought.

https://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2636/picture0015nm.th.jpg (https://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0015nm.jpg)

Avicenna
05-20-2006, 11:18
It's Caesar. Anyway, it's only called Caesar because he was the first dictator. Your Princeps shouldn't have a title like that.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-22-2006, 00:01
Ok I played a bit today. Gaul marched a small army down into my lands so I faught them. This is my army and the stats.
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7458/campaign0016bz.th.png (https://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=campaign0016bz.png)

The result.
https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9571/campaign0042jl.th.jpg (https://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=campaign0042jl.jpg)
They also had another army which moved away on there turn as I moved up to the bridge to attack. Now one side of the bridge is my army. On the other side is a small gaulish army.

Severous
05-22-2006, 09:13
In need of retraining back up to full strength I see. Nice going BM...keep em coming. :2thumbsup:

I also played my first Julii campaign on normal setting (40 men in Hastati unit)

Im a few weeks away from getting to Rome and when my Egyptians get there it wont be expansion on thier minds. :laugh4:

Bombasticus Maximus
05-24-2006, 09:13
Thanks will do.

I have not played RTW in a while so I loaded my saved file and got some screenshots.

On the end of my first turn I was attacked by an average sized gaul army just next to the bridge.

https://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1308/picture0030rg.th.jpg (https://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0030rg.jpg)

I have not got a battle outcome for that fight but I won.

Now it's my turn to attack the gauls.
https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5166/picture0088fa.th.jpg (https://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0088fa.jpg)

With an easy vistory.
https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1619/picture0095ar.th.jpg (https://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0095ar.jpg)

Next there was an amry with a general so I had to fight him.
https://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9919/picture0107ie.th.jpg (https://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0107ie.jpg)

And won again.
https://img57.imageshack.us/img57/636/picture0112xp.th.jpg (https://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0112xp.jpg)

On the senate missions side of the game they told me to blockade a port so I built some ships and blocked it but got attacked and lost the naval battle.

Severous
05-24-2006, 09:54
If you dont rule the seas and want to do a blockade...you can blockade from the land side with your armies.

Bombasticus Maximus
05-29-2006, 10:36
I have expanded as far as massilia as the senate told me to take it. It took me a while as it had a full stacked army garrsioned inside. This is the battle outcome.

https://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6413/win9bv.th.png (https://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=win9bv.png)

Bombasticus Maximus
05-31-2006, 01:26
Alot has happened scince I last posted. For some reasons this has happened:
https://img272.imageshack.us/img272/4051/picture0022ol.th.png (https://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0022ol.png)
i have not got a clue how he got there but the senate are not doing anything about him so?

I've gone and taken Osca and the marian reform has come. I am trying to start the war but my assassians keep getting killed by the generals bodyguards and they don't report it wish I think they should.

More sreenshots soon.

Severous
05-31-2006, 21:34
I wouldnt bother with trying to go for civil war yet. Spend your money on troops and buildings and go capture regions. When you have 30+ regions I suspect you wont be able to stop the civil war.

BalkanTourist
06-01-2006, 03:45
I think I know how he got there. It has happened to me before in 1.0. It apparently is a glitch and it happens when the Seulekids' capital is besieged and is full of units and there is a son that matures. In 1.0 maturing sons appear in the capital city only which was a big pain in the butt for me because I only recruit in cities that have generals in them.
I play 1.5 now and sometimes I'd get a maturing son who'd "appear" at the bottom left corner of the map in North Africa. The problem is he is invisible.

Avicenna
06-01-2006, 08:41
The earlier the other Romans are destroyed, the quicker and easier it is. Early civil war is always good :2thumbsup:

Bombasticus Maximus
06-02-2006, 11:06
I think I know how he got there. It has happened to me before in 1.0. It apparently is a glitch and it happens when the Seulekids' capital is besieged and is full of units and there is a son that matures. In 1.0 maturing sons appear in the capital city only which was a big pain in the butt for me because I only recruit in cities that have generals in them.
I play 1.5 now and sometimes I'd get a maturing son who'd "appear" at the bottom left corner of the map in North Africa. The problem is he is invisible.

Ah right ok.


The earlier the other Romans are destroyed, the quicker and easier it is. Early civil war is always good :2thumbsup:

Well I tried to start it but he either kept missing or dieing.

Bombasticus Maximus
06-05-2006, 17:44
Screenshot time. I am working on taking the rest of gaul and spain with two fullstacked armies each have archers, cav and early leginary cohorts. this is a screenshot of my first battle using the one with the general.

https://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4406/picture0069gm.th.png (https://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0069gm.png)

Severous
06-05-2006, 23:15
A tough army you have built up there. Should really sort out the Gaul. Watch out for their Forresters.

Lorenzo_H
06-06-2006, 09:17
I think you should retrain those Hastatii.

Also, fellas, how do I take and post screenshots?

Bombasticus Maximus
06-06-2006, 09:57
Yeah I will soon when I get enough cash.

You take screenshots using the print screen button or download a program like This one (http://www.fraps.com/) or This one. (http://www.howiesfunware.com/SideBarMiscSoftware.html) Then upload them here (http://www.imageshack.us).

Lorenzo_H
06-08-2006, 13:32
Yeah but I can only take one at a time using Print Screen. And when I do, how do I upload them? Imageshack has certain size limits. I dont know what program to use. Where should I save the image to? How?

Bombasticus Maximus
06-09-2006, 16:46
The first two links allow you to take as many as you like and they save into a place of your chosing. Imageshack does have limits o either save as .PNG or .GIF or open an account at Photobucket.com.

It will be quite a while until I post after this one as I reformatted yesterday and need to install the game again.


I had alot of fun fighting this battle as I had the strength to smash the gauls. Cash flow is a bit tight at the moment...

https://img466.imageshack.us/img466/2417/picture0014mj.th.jpg (https://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0014mj.jpg)

Avicenna
06-09-2006, 17:08
Getting caught is the objective, though.

:inquisitive:

Bombasticus Maximus
06-09-2006, 18:45
They do get caught but get killed by the bodyguards and they don't report it to the general...

Bombasticus Maximus
06-26-2006, 23:54
I'm back and have a screenshot of how it's going. I ain't posted for a while as I have been busy playing BI online, working :furious3: and working on my website and forum but expect more posts from me now.

Time to put an end to gaul.
https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4807/latest1hr.th.png (https://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=latest1hr.png)

That will be tomorrow I end there lives so I will post what happens then.

If you want to come and register in my forum I am still working on the website so that should be up in a few days. My Forum (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gamers_Space/index.php?act=idx) Don't be afraid to come check it out also if you want any new topic/catergorys just ask me. :2thumbsup:

UltraWar
06-30-2006, 20:00
Nice campaign Bombasticus!

I've joined your forum as well

Bombasticus Maximus
06-30-2006, 21:03
Right ok last time I posted I had missed some screenshots out I think. So these are them.

https://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7761/picture0026bj.th.jpg (https://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0026bj.jpg)

https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3091/picture0037cd.th.jpg (https://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0037cd.jpg)

I had a small rebel problem in one of my regions so I delt with that quick before finishing off gaul.
https://img431.imageshack.us/img431/3783/picture0051iw.th.jpg (https://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0051iw.jpg)

https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6468/picture0040cj1.th.jpg (https://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0040cj1.jpg)

It was time to take them down. Not much screenshots as they only had 13 men.
https://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1077/picture0011xb.th.jpg (https://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0011xb.jpg)

Romans celebrate.
https://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7097/picture0060bo.th.jpg (https://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0060bo.jpg)
Now gaul are finished who do you think I should attack next after I get my cash up to high levels?

stalin
06-30-2006, 22:24
I usually limit myself to one unit archers per stack since the AI just stands there and waits for me to shoot all my arrows as a gesture of good will.

Bombasticus Maximus
06-30-2006, 23:03
Well I play online more so I know what the use of archers are I never used to have them till I did.

Severous
07-01-2006, 08:55
Nice post BM.

Interesting campaign position also. You asked what next and how to get money.

I know what I would go for but its not a money spinner.

If I wanted money I would go for Italy or Greece but neither fit very well with the typical Julii expansion against the barbarians. Going to either Italy or Greece would seriously stretch you aginst too many enemies.

I would hold in Spain, for now, and concentrate on Britian. Avoid war with Germany but that will need to occur soon enough. One trade route that will earn lots of money is London to Samarobriva...both Brit held at the moment so earning lots of cash for them.

Diplomatically at this point I allied with Thrace. Dacia fought Thrace and I threatened but didnt attack Dacia. That kept those two factions fighting each other and my eastern border secure whilst I fought Brit, Germany, Spain.

So go take on the dred Brit chariots.~;) And keep the pictures coming.

PS...and only 13 men to fight. Bet you didnt get a heroic for that one.

Bombasticus Maximus
07-01-2006, 10:06
I could fight on two fronts once taken spain I could invade england and go into africa as they are usually good traders so they just have alot of things to trade.
No I never got one and amazingly enough the gaulish general killed 20 of my men where I only killed 13. He was not taking it lying down. :no:

Garvanko
07-01-2006, 22:42
Make sure you build those farm upgrades. Your economy will receive a tremendous boost.

Bombasticus Maximus
07-01-2006, 22:55
Thats what I am doing I go for farm/trade buildings like ports and so on to boost my money.

Bombasticus Maximus
08-03-2006, 13:05
I will start playing this in the next few minutes so I'll get some screenshots of spainish invasion.