New Sprites

[Bonny]

I have recently figured out how to make sprites for RTW. ~:idea: It wasn't very hard, and so i decided to make the missing eb sprites for 0.74, to make the battles in my current makedonian campaign more enjoyable.

At the moment i have done (almost) all missing sprites.
To make things easier they are now in one pack.

new sprites
(http://rapidshare.de/files/23324540/Sprites.rar.html)

The pack has to be unzipped into your EB folder,



edit:
there was bug with one hayasdan unit here is the latest corrected
dmb (http://files.filefront.com/DESCR_MODEL_BATTLETXT/;5235450;;/fileinfo.html)

please download it and paste it into your EB\data folder.

[GMT]

Sweet! :2thumbsup:

Thanks!! :bow:

[Radier]

What is a sprite? :stupido3:

[Bonny]

When you zoom out, your 3d Polygon solidiers will be replayced by 2d textures, these textures are called sprites.
:book:

[Ptolomey]

nice job :charge:

now the EB Beautys look amazing at distance too .
I`ve wating for this :laugh4:

that mostly white sprites at all weren`t really nice :inquisitive:

[Avicenna]

Thanks a lot for this, Bonny! I'm sure the EB team will greatly appreciate it. ~:thumb:

@Ptolomey: Welcome to the org, and may you have a great time here! ~:wave:

[Proper Gander]

Thanks a lot for this, Bonny! I'm sure the EB team will greatly appreciate it. ~:thumb:

duh! the ones he did are already done.
in fact, all the .74 sprites are done.

damn, now i've said that i have to port them for 0.8.

*leaves forum, swearing profanities*

[stalin]

Anyone tried these yet and lived to tell?
BTW the dowload sort of stops after a while...
EDIT: got mit on the 8th try, brrr

[stalin]

extract the rar file into your "EB/data" folder, some files have to be overwritten, play.
Is that the
C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\Eb-Installer-Backup\data folder
or the
C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\Data folder?

[Bonny]

It is the

C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\Data folder

[stalin]

thank you. I'll try them now

[edyzmedieval]

Plan on doing more sprites Bonny?

[stalin]

The ones i tried work and look fine. Thanks! Now if someone could do the missing unit cards...

[Bonny]

@Proper Gander

why haven't they been included into .074? It doesen't take very long to make them, and they aren' very big.

@edyzmedieval

i have already done the sprites for all factions except getai, gaul, sweboz, averni, yuehze; at the moment i'm considering if i upload them (have to convert them to .dds first to make them smaller, that takes some time)

[Proper Gander]

@Proper Gander

why haven't they been included into .074? It doesen't take very long to make them, and they aren' very big.

i did after the release.
i'd've done them sooner but i had alot of work and final exams to do. along with some bit of private life to take care of.

[Obelics]

@bonny
are there sprite for pahlava too? when i take pictures of battlemap from long distance, some unit appear to be white sprited, it could be nice to have sprite complete for this faction too, thanks bonny.

@proper grander if there are already done sprite for 0.74, why you nice people dont relase an 0.74c version with sprites? it should be very nice for people out there

[edyzmedieval]

There are some missing Pahlava sprites.

I want the Getai ones. ~D
What about skinning? Know any skinning?

[Bonny]

@ proper gander
thats a good reason, sorry for my stupid question :shame:

just anotherone:

1. If models have different skins (one normal and one merc) for the same faction, like Praetorians and Cohors Evocata (lybian speaman early, late / Liby-Phoenician Infantry early, late....), the game uses the merc sprite for both units. The tga files are different, and the path in the descr_model_batle.txt for both both files are corecct, i checked it again, again and again......
Do you had the same problem, and do you found a solution for that?


@obelisc

i have done them (and iberia, karthadastim, rome, iberia, sauromatae, bactria, too), but i didn't change the tga files to .dds yet (this take some time, after you have converted them,you have to rename all .dds files to .tga.dds manually), and i didn't tested them all (if i had made a typo in the descr_model_battle.txtl, you get CTD's instead of usable sprites)

@edyzmedieval
maybe i'm doin the missing getai/german/gaul/aedui ones, too

[Jarardo]

Thanks Bonny!

[Bonny]

updated

[edyzmedieval]

Thank you Bonny, very very much! :bow:

I shall use the sprite packs in my MapMod. :balloon2:

[edyzmedieval]

Bonny, I can't download the sprite packs. Invalid session. Tried again and again. :cry:

Help? :oops:

[Obelics]

it's strange i can download it, pheraps you have some problem with filefront, if you have problem again i can upload it with rapidshare.

anyway @bonny: could you be a bit more explicative eheh? what is the difference from the two downloads? and what does it means updated? it means the sprite are completed now?

greets

[edyzmedieval]

Downloading now. Yesterday it didn't work. :oops:

[Proper Gander]

@proper grander if there are already done sprite for 0.74, why you nice people dont relase an 0.74c version with sprites? it should be very nice for people out there

many people work on EB in all sorts of ways, and it takes a lot of organisation.
sprites are the last priority. the porting is the top priority at the moment.


@ proper gander
thats a good reason, sorry for my stupid question

not at all, no worries


just anotherone:

1. If models have different skins (one normal and one merc) for the same faction, like Praetorians and Cohors Evocata (lybian speaman early, late / Liby-Phoenician Infantry early, late....), the game uses the merc sprite for both units. The tga files are different, and the path in the descr_model_batle.txt for both both files are corecct, i checked it again, again and again......
Do you had the same problem, and do you found a solution for that?

errrm, that's weird i never saw such a thing.

i am only making one for each unit that all the factions share. colours vary a little bit, that's true, but it's hardly noticable.

above all it takes up less space. there is also a different problem that can my minimalised this way.
some sprites for some units don't work, whereas they do for the same unit for a different faction. when i say they don't work, i mean that they sink into the ground when you zoom out.
we've tried to solve this and had a lot of discussion on this topic, but we couldn't really solve it. many assume that it has something to do with alpha channels IIRC.
if we only use one sprite for every unit we can use one of the ones that work.


sorry for the late reply, i wanted to reply immediately but was distracted, then i forgot all about it.:oops:

[Ludens]

some sprites for some units don't work, whereas they do for the same unit for a different faction. when i say they don't work, i mean that they sink into the ground when you zoom out.
we've tried to solve this and had a lot of discussion on this topic, but we couldn't really solve it. many assume that it has something to do with alpha channels IIRC.
if we only use one sprite for every unit we can use one of the ones that work.
IIRC there were some problems with "sunken soldiers" in 1.2 as well, which Player1 fixed with the Bug Fixer. Or is this another problem?

[Proper Gander]

IIRC there were some problems with "sunken soldiers" in 1.2 as well, which Player1 fixed with the Bug Fixer. Or is this another problem?

sounds like the one.
but we've found a way around it now anyway.

[stalin]

any chance of you EB people releasing unit cards to 0.74 then?
Oh by the way great work Bonny it really made a difference

[edyzmedieval]

I might do some unit cards because many of them are outdated.
Will be included in the MapMod.

Not now, as I have exams. ~:(

[Obelics]

Bonny ive just installed sprite1 and sprite2 pack on a backup copy of EB, but when i load EB (just in the load screen) it say "generic error: unable to find skeleton 'fs_1h_axeman_big' "

help (id like very much to have those sprites!)

thanks!

[Bonny]

pack three online, main post updated


Bonny ive just installed sprite1 and sprite2 pack on a backup copy of EB, but when i load EB (just in the load screen) it say "generic error: unable to find skeleton 'fs_1h_axeman_big' "

help (id like very much to have those sprites!)

thanks!

i'm sorry, but i have no plan,
i tried to repeate your error, (deleted all sprite related files (desrc_batt..., sprtes folder), copied eb, dowloaded the files and installed them), but all went fine, there was no error

maybe a "bad copie", just trie it again

[Obelics]

how stupid, i think i had installed the packs in the wrong order, now they work and i must say that is a difference!
Finally (i hated them) my pahlava shivatir do not become white when zoming out, i could suggest EB could put your pack in a 0.74a while waiting for 0.8.

so, many thanks!

[stalin]

bump

[Bonny]

bump

hä? :inquisitive:

[Ludens]

Since I installed the sprite pack (great job, BTW ~:thumb: ) I have been getting strange CTD's when I play custom battles of replays of those. The funny thing is that they seem random: when I load the battle/replay for the first time it crashes, when I do if for the second time it loads without problem. It may have something to do with missing sprites: I've been trying out Ordmhornaght (Gaelic hammermen), and those in Aedui service still lack sprites.

[Bonny]

Since I installed the sprite pack (great job, BTW ~:thumb: ) I have been getting strange CTD's when I play custom battles of replays of those. The funny thing is that they seem random: when I load the battle/replay for the first time it crashes, when I do if for the second time it loads without problem. It may have something to do with missing sprites: I've been trying out Ordmhornaght (Gaelic hammermen), and those in Aedui service still lack sprites.

Thanks for telling ~:) , it was a typo in descr_model_battle.txt, it was very easy to fix.
I have uploaded both a new corrected version of the third pack and a small fix, for all who have downloaded the old one.

[Ludens]

Thanks for telling ~:) , it was a typo in descr_model_battle.txt, it was very easy to fix.
I have uploaded both a new corrected version of the third pack and a small fix, for all who have downloaded the old one.
It works, thanks. I loaded the battle three times and I didn't get a CTD either, so I suppose the missing sprites were indeed the cause.

Excellent service, BTW ~:thumb: .

[Ludens]

The Averni Ordmhornaght lack sprites too. They look identical to the Aedui version, so this should be easy to fix. I forgot to check Iberian Ordmhornaght.

[Bonny]

nooooooooooooooo,

I tested all of these hammerunits, for every faction.....except the averni one
how could i forget them? I'm going to upload the fix tommorow

wm offtop ps: Schlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand!!!!!!!!!!!11111elf

[Comrade Alexeo]

pack three online, main post updated



i'm sorry, but i have no plan,
i tried to repeate your error, (deleted all sprite related files (desrc_batt..., sprtes folder), copied eb, dowloaded the files and installed them), but all went fine, there was no error

maybe a "bad copie", just trie it again

I got a very similar error with "fs_fast_foot_archer."

OK, I figure, let's see what happens when I change them all to "fs_foot_archer."

Same problem. For all I know it might continue...

EB worked last night when I had just installed it, and I know that I installed these sprite files in the correct order (I even did it again, just to be sure).

I'd like to start a Parthian campaign ASAP :2thumbsup: so I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me how to fix this so I can play... with or without sprites at this point.

[Cheexsta]

Is anyone else having problems downloading the files from Filefront? I'm trying to get my mitts on these sprites, but Filefront is telling me there's no available servers. Are there any mirrors available?

[SirRethcir]

wm offtop ps: Schlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand!!!!!!!!!!!11111elf:laugh4:
No foreign language, please. ;)
Keep up for good work!

[Bonny]

@ Cheexsta

I have replaced the download links with one from Rapidshare. This time it's only one pack including all new sprites for all factions (the dmb mistake is resolved, too)

@comrado

I'm sorry for the late reply :bow:,


i think i had installed the packs in the wrong order, now they work and i must say that is a difference!
Finally (i hated them) my pahlava shivatir do not become white when zoming out, i could suggest EB could put your pack in a 0.74a while waiting for 0.8.

so, many thanks!

since this was the solution last time, you have to options two go:
1. install the sprite packs again, and make sure to use the correct order
2. download the new all in one version (see main post)

@SirRethcir

I was drunk when i wrote this (54,74,90,2006......) ~;)

@ all

thanks for all the praise :bow:

[Cheexsta]

Thanks Bonny, will begin downloading again ~:)

Top work, thanks for doing all this for the community.

[stalin]

bump... This should be stickied somewhere actually, for those of us still patient enough to be playing 0.74

[stalin]

Bonny do the rebels have the correct sprites too now?

[Bonny]

yes, they have. the only faction i haven't done are the yuezeh.

[Obelics]

bonny ive installed your pack when it was splitted in 3 parts, at first i had some problem as you know but then all seems to go well.

Now i returned to visit your post, and i see there is one only download for all the sprite, the question is: Have i to reinstall all with the upgraded pack? Or can i to keep the old 3 parts pack ive courrently installed?

if there are some improvements in the new 1 single part pack i think i should install it. Let me know.

as usually thanks and very usefull work!

[Bonny]

@ Obelics

No, you don't need to download it. I only pasted the three downloads together to one, in order change the filehoster and make the upload easier ~;) .
There are no differences between the three files version and the one file version, except a corrected dmb (a mistake with the barbarian hammer units), but you can download this small file seperately.

[Obelics]

ok thanks bonny (i think i will never encounter those barbarian hammer units in my campaign...:no: )

[Bonny]

new dmb uploaded. Correcting an issue with with the hayasdan Aspet Cavalrey.

[edyzmedieval]

Bonny, I can't download the pack. ~:(
Help please?

[Bonny]

hm, i checked both links and they were all working?
on rapidshare you have to wait 30 seconds (there is a counter counting down) could you haven't noticed it?

[edyzmedieval]

Yeah, I used download accelerators which affected the dl.
Thanks, it works now. ~:)