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InsaneApache

06-01-2006, 14:36

TINTIN will become the first comic strip hero to be honoured by a religious leader when the Dalai Lama presents the Truth of Light award to the Hergé Foundation, named after Tintin’s creator.

The award honours individuals and institutions that have made a significant contribution to the public’s understanding of Tibet. Hergé’s Tintin in Tibet, published in 1959, is the 20th in the classic series, and was said to be Hergé’s favourite.

Tin Tin (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2205394,00.html)

What! no Thompsom Twins? :inquisitive:

Mithrandir

06-01-2006, 15:56

I love the TinTin series.

Even today it's not outdated imho.

Scurvy

06-01-2006, 15:57

yeh, i like tin tin (especially the dog :2thumbsup: )

Moros

06-01-2006, 18:22

Je sjal njet ontsnjappen kuifje!

hihi lama.

GoreBag

06-01-2006, 23:11

I love the TinTin series.

Even today it's not outdated imho.

Except the caricatures of non-caucasoids. Evem still, it's a fun read once in a while, and I used to watch the cartoon series as a child.

Mithrandir

06-01-2006, 23:27

Epistolary Richard

06-01-2006, 23:57

Hergé's attitudes are a far more interesting question than I originally thought. I found the wikipedia article on him most interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herge

I think it's clear from that that Hergé's attitudes towards race were certainly not static and developed throughout his life. It's important to note that the most obvious example of what Gorebag is referring to, Tintin Au Congo, was first published in 1930 (and to my knowledge never translated into English) whereas the book he's being honoured for, Tintin in Tibet, was published in 1958 - world, and perhaps his own, attitudes had changed.

discovery1

06-02-2006, 01:36

You mean black people ?

Yeah, they're depicted not politically correct,if it would be drawn these days he'd probably get a lawsuit against him. It's been a while since I read them, but I think he was always interacting in a positive way to all people, black,yellow red and white ?

I remember him saying that the land some oil was found on belong to some native Americans. They were offered much less then they were offering Tintin, who they thought owned the land. The Native Americans are promptly forced off the land by the army. I guess that doesn't really prove the point that Tintin tends to portry everyone in a positive light. Does attack US policy towards natives though.

Mithrandir

06-02-2006, 10:46

what book was that?

Brutus

06-02-2006, 13:15

Tintin in America (Tintin en Amerique).

Offers quite the caricature of the United States (filled with gangsters and cowboys, in the book) and includes the only Tintin character that actually really existed: Al Capone.

Herge later admitted his knowledge of the US at the time of writing was rather poor.

Fragony

06-02-2006, 14:19

That first tintin comic was more then a little bit racist, remember the train that had to be put back on it's track? Hilarious, if it wasn't from the twenties an army of hippies would demand his had on a stick. Don't know if this is true, but Herge and that guy from the smurfs are said to have had some pretty strong social-nationalistic sympathies.

Myrddraal

06-02-2006, 14:49

The funny thing about Herge is that his drawings are always steriotypical caricatures, yet at the same time the moral of the story is often in favour of the people he is making the caricatures of.

GoreBag

06-03-2006, 21:41

You mean black people ?

Yeah, they're depicted not politically correct,if it would be drawn these days he'd probably get a lawsuit against him. It's been a while since I read them, but I think he was always interacting in a positive way to all people, black,yellow red and white ?

I would have said negroids, then. No, I mean all non-caucasoids, from the 'yes suh' Congolese with the exaggerated lips to the same exaggerated features found in India to the extreme proliferation of East Asians with bucked teeth.

thrashaholic

06-04-2006, 09:37

I would have said negroids, then. No, I mean all non-caucasoids, from the 'yes suh' Congolese with the exaggerated lips to the same exaggerated features found in India to the extreme proliferation of East Asians with bucked teeth.

Caucasoid characters are hardly drawn accurately either. It could be argued that the shape of their noses and large comical moustaches are derogatory to white people, and, in the English version of the cartoon at least, some of the stererotypical portrayals of British people are offensive or objectionable, but they're not because it's a cartoon.

Cartoons, and comedies in general, are funny because the characters are all to a certain extent caricatures and stereotypes of people we encounter in real life, and no one is harmed by that.

If you want gritty realism, watch the news.

GoreBag

06-04-2006, 23:23

You're really missing the point.

zukenft

06-07-2006, 09:43

Brutus

06-07-2006, 10:03

'clone comics'? You mean like Blake and Mortimer?

Fragony

06-08-2006, 10:42

Hmm...how long have Tintin been around? about 70 years??? It's quite an accomplishment for Herge to make a story so memorable, even now.
I used to own all the comics, until I moved 6 years ago...some got damaged
, some lost...

COme to think of it, there should be some Tintin clone comics out there...anybody know any?

Closest in style would be Theodoor Cleysters, but it is so great that it can hardly be called a clone.

sample:

http://www.dupuis.com/Planches/G/POUSSIN-02-N-03.jpg

Mithrandir

06-08-2006, 11:08

viewed the comic before I read your post,

I thought it was an ancient draft of tintin...

R'as al Ghul

06-08-2006, 11:59

COme to think of it, there should be some Tintin clone comics out there...anybody know any?

Hergé created the "linie claire" (clear line) style.
Many (french and belgian authors) have adapted it.