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Krusader
06-08-2006, 00:31
Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans

We are still hard at work on v0.8 (tired of hearing that perhaps by now ~D !!) and are making some progress.
The porting over seemed to go nicely and then BANG!!, a new hardcoded limit popped up and made our work a little bit more miserable. As stated before, the recruitment system EB currently has is not compatible with v1.5 and we are reworking on it so no CTDs will be in 0.8.

We know you are eagerly awaiting the 0.8 and so are we, because since the last preview, development has started on some areas not touched for months if not years. You will be pleased when you hear what it is! :2thumbsup:

But to keep your EB cravings at bay, we have hammered together a little preview for you to see.




https://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6121/easterntitle17je.jpg



As always we there are people that need thanks. Arman, Seydtlitz & Spartan Warrior for modelling and Agart, Arman, Forgus, Kali & Spartan Warrior for skinning them.
Also thanks to Teleklos Archelaou for doing the GUI and loading screens, Aymar de Bois Mauri for providing ingame shots of the units & Angadil, Foot & Steppe Merc for their work on the Eastern factions and helping with this preview.




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Nakhararakan Tiknapah - Armenian Royal Guards
http://www.krusader.be/eb/armenianroyalguard-tn.jpg (http://www.krusader.be/eb/armenianroyalguard.jpg)
The Nakhararakan Tiknapah, the elite foot-soldiers of the Royal Palaces, are usually few in number and serve only as guardsmen to the Hai Arkah (Armenian King) and his princes. But their lengthy training, their fierce loyalty and their superior equipment mean that at times it is prudent and wise for their numbers to be increased and their role to be revised. Their position on the battlefield is to hold the line - their skill and determination spurring their allies on - while they wait for the inevitable charge of their horse-bound cousins - the Nakhararakan Aspet. Their equipment, mostly supplied by themselves, is the finest work that Hayasdan can produce, only bested by the King’s armour itself. They wear the old Assyrian-style helmet, conical in shape and a traditional choice for the men of Hayasdan. Their scale-corset is finely crafted from iron mined in Hayasdan itself and it is forged in the metal-smiths whose craft has an ancient history in this part of the world. They carry a long spear and a large, traditional, circular silver shield with an iron rim, similar in style to the Greek Aspis shield, and a stout defence against the slashing sword of an enemy.


Hye Sparapet - Armenian Royal Bodyguards
https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8527/HyeSparapet2.th.jpg (https://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=HyeSparapet2.jpg)https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/923/HyeSparapet1.th.jpg (https://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=HyeSparapet1.jpg)https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2421/HyeSparapet3.th.jpg (https://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=HyeSparapet3.jpg)
The Hye Sparapet, the loyal cadre of Nakhararakan Aspet who exclusively serve the Royal Princes and the Hai Arkah (Armenian King), are among the fiercest warriors known to Hayasdan; unbowing in the face of certain death, unquestioningly loyal to their King. Fully clad in the most well crafted of armours, these men are a fearsome sight on the battlefield, bolstering allies and weakening the resolve of their enemies. Their armour consists of a conical helm, in the Assyrian-style, with an aventail guard to protect the neck; an iron scale corset covered with a decorative leather tabard; and banded arm and leg guards to protect the limbs from harm. The Hye Sparapet, armed with a two-handed lance, can be the decisive force on a battlefield, routing enemies with a single charge. If, however, they get bogged down in combat their maces will crush the enemy beneath them, crumpling all but the hardiest of armours and stoutest of shields. For greatest effect the Hye Sparapet should be used at the defining moment of a battle when all other forces are committed to the fray, charging into the flanks or rear of an enemy in an effort to break them.

Historically, the Armenian lords assembled a strike force of heavily armoured men to comprise their personal guard. Those warriors were fiercely loyal and courageous. However, their limited numbers (they were very expensive to equip) severely constrained their tactical impact.

Hallamtati Thanvare - Elymaean Archers
https://img475.imageshack.us/img475/7136/ELMArchers1.th.jpg (https://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ELMArchers1.jpg)https://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1237/ELMArchers2.th.jpg (https://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ELMArchers2.jpg)https://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1047/ELMArchers3.th.jpg (https://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ELMArchers3.jpg)
These infantry archers are recruited from the homeland of the Elamite people from the highland elements of the Zagros mountains. These infantry lack the speed and manoeuvrability of horse archers instead relying on their powerful long composite bow. It seems likely that at least some of these infantry were those from the highlands turning to mercenary service rather than another year of sheepherding. They are willing to give good service but lack any particular attachment to their overlords.

The Elamites are among the oldest of nations and are mentioned in ancient Babylonian and Assyrian documents. Throughout their history the Elamites were known as dangerous warriors skilled in the use of the bow. This tradition continued into the Hellenic period when they are recorded as serving the Seleucid kings and the later Parthian kings in their turn.

Chalkaspidai - Bronze Shields
https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1203/chalkaspidai18zh.th.jpg (https://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chalkaspidai18zh.jpg)https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6529/chalkaspidai24sk.th.jpg (https://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chalkaspidai24sk.jpg)https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3605/Chalkaspidai3.th.jpg (https://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=Chalkaspidai3.jpg)
The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine. The phalanx is the natural tactical formation of a part-time citizen levy. Their training cannot be extended or in depth as they have their own lives and role to play in society. These men are part-time conscripts able to serve during the summer campaigns, but they must be released at harvest or famine will follow. The Bronze Shields or brazen shields are the elite phalangitai of the Pontic state. The chalkaspidai can be a powerful and dangerous weapon in the hands of a competent general, and a slaughterhouse in the hands of a fool. The phalanx, known already in ancient Sumeria, is at its simplest, a compact body of spearmen, formed up in depth to present a hedge of spears to any attacker. The weak point of the phalanx is the flanks and if the enemy is able to engage the flanks then the formation will quickly fall into disorder. The sarissa is a clumsy weapon, not well suited to close quarters combat, but such is not its purpose. It is meant to be an impenetrable wall of pikes, creating a moving fortress which cavalry can use to launch their attacks. Vital to the success of the pikemen are hoplites, or hypaspistai, whose purpose is to ward the vulnerable flanks of the phalanx.

Historically, the latter day Hellenic states forgot the nature and vulnerabilities of these pikemen. Trying to use these infantry as an offensive arm, these pikemen failed to achieve for their masters what they had never been intended to do. The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine and the phalanx was adopted in that area too.

Artish Pada - Eastern Javelinmen
https://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5711/2artishpadapontus1zf.th.jpg (https://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2artishpadapontus1zf.jpg)https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7724/2-ArtishPadaParthia.th.jpg (https://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2-ArtishPadaParthia.jpg)
Pontos :: Pahlava
Armed with nothing but a small shield and a handful of javelins these men risk their lives in closing with the enemy with only the lightest of equipment. These men deploy in a cloud before the heavy infantry dashing back and forth to release their deadly missiles. These infantry skirmishers fought in open formations so as to maximize the number of men able to get a throw and minimize the effect of enemy missiles. Lacking armour, training and heavy weapons these light infantry stand no chance if committed to melee.

Historically, most armies of the classical period found use for poorly equipped levies as skirmishers, very often as javelinmen, as these troops required relatively little training and financial investment, relying mostly on widespread natural skills and scant gear, while still providing some useful service.

Grivpanvar
https://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7245/ParthianGrivpanvar_2.th.jpg (https://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ParthianGrivpanvar_2.jpg)https://img362.imageshack.us/img362/766/ParthianGrivpanvar_1.th.jpg (https://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ParthianGrivpanvar_1.jpg)https://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3302/ParthianGrivpanvar_3.th.jpg (https://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ParthianGrivpanvar_3.jpg)
The Grivpanvar are nobles from the highest level of cataphracts that the Pahlava have to draw on. The elite of the clan host form this armoured fist that represents one of the most powerful armoured cavalry the world has ever seen. They deploy in the heaviest armour available and use the kontos as their primary shock weapon. Armoured in iron lamellar corselets, covered by a leather tabard, laminated leg and arm guards and with iron shining from the scale horse barding, these are truly men of iron, in bright armour for horse and man. The horse bearing such loads must be both large and strong, and both the Parthians and Achaemenid Persians bred just such horses, the Nisaean breed of Persia.

Historical evidence suggests that the Parthian, heavily-armoured Grivpanvar were, at least partially, a product of military influence from the Central Asian steppes which had inherited the armoured cavalry traditions of the Massagetae and the late Achaemenid Persians. Their name derives from the Pahlavi griwban "neck-guard", a helmet armour guard, from whence 'Grivpan' warrior. In the 3rd century AD, the Romans would begin to deploy such cavalry calling them clibanarii, the name thought to derive from griwbanwar or griva-pana-bara.

And some reskins:
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1001/armenianpan9wi.th.jpg (https://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armenianpan9wi.jpg)
Pantodapoi - Hayasdan

https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3057/2-AkontistaiPontus.th.jpg (https://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2-AkontistaiPontus.jpg)
Akontistai - Pontos


https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9421/dividerparthia18yq.gif

And as a bonus:

Late Pahlavan Kings loading screen you will see in 0.8:

https://img275.imageshack.us/img275/8028/loadingscreen204ce.th.jpg (https://img275.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadingscreen204ce.jpg)

And here are some Eastern GUI shots:

https://img314.imageshack.us/img314/7285/eastern12gh.th.jpg (https://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eastern12gh.jpg) https://img426.imageshack.us/img426/8997/eastern25vj.th.jpg (https://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eastern25vj.jpg) https://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1871/eastern35lk.th.jpg (https://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eastern35lk.jpg)

And as a dessert:
http://www.krusader.be/eb/alabama.jpg
Now what could this be? ~D



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We hope you have enjoyed this preview of some of the Eastern units.
Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures, names, and descriptions shown in our previews are works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB, and we will continue to do so long after our initial release.
Since some areas where these news items are posted cannot handle wide images, we appreciate your restraint from quoting full-size images.
As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them is here, where the EB team is most active:

Europa Barbarorum ORG forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=70)

Europa Barbarorum TWC forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

We give special thanks to Imageshack (http://www.imageshack.us) that provides us with a simple, foolproof, and free way to show you all these pictures each week.

Have a great day!


Sincerely,

The Europa Barbarorum team.

abou
06-08-2006, 00:45
Great as always! The level of detail is unmatched.

Edit: One of the things I did notice is that the Grivpanvar seem too clean. Maybe they could be dirtied up a bit; unless those bright colors are really supposed to be that bright.


...in bright armour for horse and man.

Heh, it probably would help if I read first.

PSYCHO V
06-08-2006, 00:51
awesome !:2thumbsup:

shifty157
06-08-2006, 00:53
Pretty awesome looking stuff. Keep up the great work. Im really looking forward to the 0.8 release.

Imperator
06-08-2006, 01:29
:2thumbsup:

pure awesomeness...I don't know how you guys do it :dizzy2:

But (I know I'm a hecklar for asking) how far are you one the road to a successful port? The charge bonuses actually work, as well as a wealth of other differences in the combat engine, so will you have to re-work unit stats? Can you give us desperate plebs an idea of how far along you are? please? :sweatdrop:

Dooz
06-08-2006, 02:09
Holy hell, this is awesome. Friggin' Armenian Royal Guards are incredible! Now with EB, I can finally play a campaign as my ancestors... that is if 0.8 ever comes out, heh. Just teasing of course, but shyte, it's been a while. I even just got a new, high-end gaming computer to ensure I can enjoy the delights EB has to offer at its best. Can't wait for the release, great preview!

Oh, and dying to know what new faction's icon that is. Does this mean we have two new factions on the way?

Birka Viking
06-08-2006, 02:16
Wow...awesome as always..keep up the good work EB team....:2thumbsup:
cheers~:cheers: ~:cheers:

Reenk Roink
06-08-2006, 02:17
And as a dessert:
http://www.krusader.be/eb/alabama.jpg
Now what could this be? ~D

It's obviously a ram... :tongue2:

Great preview again! :2thumbsup:

These previews are essential to maintaining my high standard happyness, as I am not able to play EB on 1.2...

paullus
06-08-2006, 02:39
Excellent preview, and thanks for putting it together. The units look great.

I just hope we won't need to have a July Preview.

And its clearly the faction symbol of either the trolls or the billy-goats (ahh, to be a child again).

HamilcarBarca
06-08-2006, 03:14
Great stuff. I am very keen for EB 8.0!!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing (perhaps hoping?) that the ram is the new icon for a new faction - the Libyans.

I know that might be just wishful thinking on my part - but the little we know about the Libyans includes the likliehood that the Ram represented their principal deity (if memory serves me...).

Do I win a prize, or is it back to the drawing board?

H.

Trithemius
06-08-2006, 05:12
Excellent preview, and thanks for putting it together. The units look great.

I just hope we won't need to have a July Preview.

And its clearly the faction symbol of either the trolls or the billy-goats (ahh, to be a child again).

Not Cyprus? It could be a moufflon? :dizzy2:

Dooz
06-08-2006, 07:18
Great stuff. I am very keen for EB 8.0!!!!!!!!!

I'm guessing (perhaps hoping?) that the ram is the new icon for a new faction - the Libyans.

I know that might be just wishful thinking on my part - but the little we know about the Libyans includes the likliehood that the Ram represented their principal deity (if memory serves me...).

Do I win a prize, or is it back to the drawing board?

H.

Hmm, that might make sense to be a faction, although I think I remember EB team members arguing against Libya being included... but with the new faction slots opening up, it is a possibility. The icon gives off a desert vibe, and Africa might be due for some more residents and competition for the Ptolies and Carthage.

Kierkegaard
06-08-2006, 07:38
amazing! great work! :laugh4:
but, but when it will be released? really cant wait to play it! :balloon2:

Dayve
06-08-2006, 08:48
It will be released on the 31st of February of next year.

Geoffrey S
06-08-2006, 08:59
I like. Armenians look great. Only thing I'm not so keen on is the colouring of the Grivpanvar; the colours on the chest, saddle and helmet looks too bright too me.

The interface looks very nice, I particularly like the clearly visible victory conditions.

BTW, is it an ibex? That'd place the faction in North Africa, I'd think; I'm pretty sure I heard of a Nubian ibex somewhere.

Edit: a quick search in google for nubian ibex provided me with this:
http://www.digital-images.net/Images/2002/Animals2/Nubian_Ibex_4849.jpg
and the information that this creature is found in Egypt, Sudan, and the Arabian peninsula; habitat is mountainous, so that would mean the western and south ends of the Arabian peninsula. That would imply a Nubian faction or an Arabian faction in the areas currently known as Yemen and Oman.

Mithradates
06-08-2006, 09:10
Simply splendid! This next port seems to make the East much more playable!

Radier
06-08-2006, 09:12
Great preview! Keep up this good work. :2thumbsup:

I wonder what that faction is... Any expert have some guesses?

Obelics
06-08-2006, 09:20
fantastic! Cant see the moment to play all these thinks! and some new skins really looks good!

the only think i dont like are the new long-haired dull-faces pantodapoi (preferred the old ones, more expressive, far better but no matter bytheway)

liked the new ui (pheraps a bit too baroque and stoned or marmorized in my opinion)

wonderfull the iran-coins loading screen (i really loved it)

so im soo excited and i cant see the moment to play EB 0.8, deeper history-game experience ever made...

greets

edyzmedieval
06-08-2006, 10:28
The Ibex also lives in Northern Arabia, close to Israel. :book:

And I hate exams. I want to play EB EB EB EB EB EB.... :cry:

Splendid guys. :2thumbsup:

Mithradates
06-08-2006, 11:38
Curse exams also! One day last week i had a whole 5 hour day of exams!!
Theres just no time for EB!

Dâriûsh
06-08-2006, 11:47
Hubba hubba! :jumping:

Christianus
06-08-2006, 13:15
i believe the goat is Norwegian.

Teleklos Archelaou
06-08-2006, 14:48
liked the new ui (pheraps a bit too baroque and stoned or marmorized in my opinion)
One problem is that given those three cultures - what sort of GUI would be appropriate? There just isn't much of anything of Pontic, Armenian, or Parthian third century BC art or architecture (virtually nothing). Faced with this situation, and a desire to have something a little different than the other GUI's, I went with some of the distinguishing characteristics of Parthian art/architecture that we do have from a little later periods. This includes frescos (the wavy border is from remains of Parthian art, though it was originally a mosaic I think that I sort of textured and zoomed out to make it look like a pattern on fresco instead), and mud brick. Replicating mud brick in a nice way was difficult, but I zoomed out far enough away to let a pattern set. Parthian curved brick facing was also well known - in doorways and their forms of the arch and such - so the circular brick patterns seemed quite appropriate. Finally, placing a real Parthian fresco in the background in the middle seemed foolhardy, as it would overwhelm the middle town images, and also there are so few that none seemed very appropriate. It was just a paucity of logical alternatives that lead to this GUI, but for these three factions it's the best that we could think up.

Djurre
06-08-2006, 15:32
Considering that this nubian ibex, or whatever goat it is, is the symbol of a great nation, a great nation ready to wreck havoc upon his unsuspecting enemy's, a great nation who's warriors will crush all that oppose it. Considering all this ....

i find it really awkward that the goat is smiling...

yep, a smiling goat.

what's this new faction supposed to be? the "why cant we all just get allong republic"?

Teleklos Archelaou
06-08-2006, 15:37
Considering that this nubian ibex, or whatever goat it is, is the symbol of a great nation, a great nation ready to wreck havoc upon his unsuspecting enemy's, a great nation who's warriors will crush all that oppose it. Considering all this ....

i find it really awkward that the goat is smiling...

yep, a smiling goat.

what's this new faction supposed to be? the "why cant we all just get allong republic"?
But it's a sly smile, a knowing one. With his wizened old beard, this is the smile of a great nation who has just peed in your coffee without you knowing, and is watching you grimace and curse and is thinking "yeah, I roll like like that."

KingOfTheIsles
06-08-2006, 16:20
:laugh4:

On topic, those new units look very impressive. The last Parthian campaign I played felt a little incomplete, and hopefully the new units will put that right.

orwell
06-08-2006, 19:22
I like the idea of a faction in arabia, though, does spain or.... the mountain regions where armenia resides have mountain goats? I wouldn't be surprised by lusitanians or the eastern Iberians.

amritochates
06-08-2006, 19:32
Could it be the Sabean Kingdom in southern arabia??
Though why it should be included is beyond my comprehension, the same applies to my next option- the kingdom of aksum.

Ps- sudden flash of inspiration: Nabateans anyone??

paullus
06-09-2006, 03:52
Yeah, the closest thing to that mangoatram emblem was in South Africa. I did a lil research on the ibex, and in addition to being some sort of printing/editing/software company, ibex of various sorts are found throughout N. Africa, the Arabian Peninsula, Spain, the Alps, and other mountainous regions Western Eurasia. However, from the pics I saw, the Alpine and Nubian/Lybian Ibex variants look most similar to the fella on that faction icon.

Trax
06-09-2006, 14:58
Could it be the Sabean Kingdom in southern arabia??

I think it is. I finished a book about them recently and the goats were all over their monuments.

Kralizec
06-09-2006, 19:05
Looks good. I deinstalled EB the other day to make time for my exams, but once the new version comes out I'll probably install it immediately to give it a try (knowing it's unwise) ~;)

Ludens
06-09-2006, 19:41
Nice work ~:thumb: . Though the description of the Bronze Shields contains the phrase "The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine" twice. But I suppose someone has already noticed this.

Ignoramus
06-10-2006, 05:48
New factions slots? I thought the limit was 21.

orwell
06-10-2006, 06:07
It is, but the senate slot is freed up, and the yuezhi are out.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
06-10-2006, 13:37
Nice work ~:thumb: . Though the description of the Bronze Shields contains the phrase "The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine" twice. But I suppose someone has already noticed this.Better now? :wink:


The Macedonian conquests never included the Pontos Euxine, but their influence in military matters found a home on it's shores.

Ludens
06-10-2006, 14:58
Better now? :wink:
I meant the entire sentence appeared twice. Sorry if I wasn't clear.


Chalkaspidai - Bronze Shields

The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine. The phalanx is the natural tactical formation of a part-time citizen levy. Their training cannot be extended or in depth as they have their own lives and role to play in society. These men are part-time conscripts able to serve during the summer campaigns, but they must be released at harvest or famine will follow. The Bronze Shields or brazen shields are the elite phalangitai of the Pontic state. The chalkaspidai can be a powerful and dangerous weapon in the hands of a competent general, and a slaughterhouse in the hands of a fool. The phalanx, known already in ancient Sumeria, is at its simplest, a compact body of spearmen, formed up in depth to present a hedge of spears to any attacker. The weak point of the phalanx is the flanks and if the enemy is able to engage the flanks then the formation will quickly fall into disorder. The sarissa is a clumsy weapon, not well suited to close quarters combat, but such is not its purpose. It is meant to be an impenetrable wall of pikes, creating a moving fortress which cavalry can use to launch their attacks. Vital to the success of the pikemen are hoplites, or hypaspistai, whose purpose is to ward the vulnerable flanks of the phalanx.

Historically, the latter day Hellenic states forgot the nature and vulnerabilities of these pikemen. Trying to use these infantry as an offensive arm, these pikemen failed to achieve for their masters what they had never been intended to do. The Makedonian conquests never included Pontos, but their influence in military matters found a home on the shores of the Pontos Euxine and the phalanx was adopted in that area too.

Aymar de Bois Mauri
06-10-2006, 15:17
I meant the entire sentence appeared twice. Sorry if I wasn't clear.Ah! Ok. I'll talk to the guys to rework it. Thanks.

edyzmedieval
06-10-2006, 23:02
I think it is. I finished a book about them recently and the goats were all over their monuments.

Ah good. ~D
We found one of the factions: Saba.

But what the heck could be the other one.... :juggle2:

Kääpäkorven Konsuli
06-10-2006, 23:30
http://www.krusader.be/eb/alabama.jpg
Damn, why don't you but the name on the address anymore?

Geoffrey S
06-11-2006, 10:08
Ah good. ~D
We found one of the factions: Saba.

But what the heck could be the other one.... :juggle2:
Something Scythian. That symbol is exactly like some of their art.

sithlord85
06-11-2006, 20:28
This is looking awesome dudes:2thumbsup:


https://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/sithlord86/785558161_l.jpg

Slasher
06-12-2006, 06:00
<insert suck up here>

Simmons
06-12-2006, 14:12
<insert suck up here>
No need to be obnoxious Slasher lets all just be friends :daisy:

amritochates
06-12-2006, 19:54
At the cost of sounding pedantic- I believe I called the sabeans first with Trax responding to my earlier post- and my initial query is still not answered:
why the sabeans at all when i can think of at least two far more deserving canditates, namely
a. The attalids of permagmum
b. The cimbri in the cimbrian cheronsee

Both the above mentioned factions have far better claim to be included due to their influence on the global stage either in this period or shortly thereafter as opossed to the sabeans who were basically a marginal power at this stage, in fact the Nabateans have a far better claim if an Arabian faction is to be included.

In addition I do somewhat dimly recall the official insignia of the sabeans being the Owl, at least as potrayed on their coins- though I might be mistaken as I seem to be experienced random hair as well as memory loss.:stupido:

Teleklos Archelaou
06-12-2006, 20:37
Just to reply to one part of a post - no responses to anything concerning the two faction symbols EB has released will be given by any EB member. Discussions may take place when information is released, but I will say that EB members have decided on the factions and are moving forward with them, and will be happy to talk about things after the release is out. But I just want to say this much to make sure no one is expecting answers from us on these sort of questions. Fans can feel free to talk about things as much as they want among each other though. :grin:

Big_John
06-13-2006, 04:52
actually, the new faction is the aztecs.


hahaha, foiled you yet again TA! you should have kept the keep-em-quiet payments coming.. your hope dawned proud and bright, and now you have nothing left but your dreams to keep you warm at night. betwixt earth and flesh! the twilight of the innocent mind!

Mujalumbo
06-13-2006, 06:56
Damn! Now THAT's what I'm talkin' about! Those Armenian Royal Bodyguards are going to whip some serious ass. :2thumbsup:

Just to be critical, though, the Parthians ones don't look quite as finished and polished as the Armenians. Is it just 'cuz of different graphics options in the game when the screenshot was taken?

Nonetheless, I'm really looking forward to the next build. The Pontic General was a pretty good unit, but now I'm really looking forward to charging in with my Armenian or Parthian family members and cracking some skulls!

Jarardo
06-13-2006, 08:37
Looks great! Yay!

sithlord85
06-13-2006, 13:09
Sweet.......!!!!!!
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tk-421
06-14-2006, 03:31
I just have to post this, just once- I know who both the missing factions are and I'm not going to tell. laugh4:

beauchamp
06-14-2006, 03:51
I certainly hope so...

beauchamp
06-14-2006, 03:53
Sa'ba is awsome

VandalCarthage
06-21-2006, 23:05
In addition I do somewhat dimly recall the official insignia of the sabeans being the Owl, at least as potrayed on their coins- though I might be mistaken as I seem to be experienced random hair as well as memory loss.


You probably came under that impression because at the time Sabaean coinage was emulating the weight and appearance of the Athenian standard.

edyzmedieval
06-24-2006, 21:11
I just have to post this, just once- I know who both the missing factions are and I'm not going to tell. laugh4:

*whips TK till he dies*

I want to know the factions tooooo.... :skull:

tk-421
06-25-2006, 04:11
*whips TK till he dies*

I want to know the factions tooooo.... :skull:

Hahahahahaha!

Tuuvi
06-27-2006, 02:37
Just a guess based on VandalCarthage's sig, but the new faction is Occultus?lol

Radier
06-27-2006, 18:35
Hahahahahaha!

C'mon tk. I know you want to tell us... ~:pat:







Oh, and I know where you live..... :skull:

~;)

Scott
06-28-2006, 11:29
And as a dessert:
http://www.krusader.be/eb/alabama.jpg
Now what could this be? ~D

I don't think this repesent's a European faction. I don't think the sand in backround repsent's a Eurpeaon faction. That sheep may be the Argali sheep(Ovis ammon what Roman would). This may repsent an Asia faction(probally either centeral or southwest asia).

For some reason I think Occultus is a codename

actually, the new faction is the aztecs.
Aztechs didn't even exist during 272 bc and they didn't have a Ovis ammon as it's symbol.

paullus
06-28-2006, 17:28
Aztechs didn't even exist during 272 bc and they didn't have a Ovis ammon as it's symbol.

Pretty sure he was making a joke...

And yes, occultus means "hidden." At least they've let us see the faction icons this go around. I'd like an east european faction, myself, but I think other people have made reasonably good guesses at a faction in the Arabian peninsula and some tribe of Skythians.

Musopticon?
06-28-2006, 17:39
There was also a minor leak(purely a mistake, nothing to get riled about) on a thread about recruitment maps, which showed that symbol over the area next or nearby to the city of Sa'ba. It's been removed.

Make your own guesses.:juggle2:

Scott
06-30-2006, 05:08
Pretty sure he was making a joke....
Yeah I know just wanted to make sure that everone is aware that they didn't exist back then.

edyzmedieval
06-30-2006, 09:51
C'mon tk. I know you want to tell us... ~:pat:
Oh, and I know where you live..... :skull:

~;)

I'm joining you Radier. Let's Radier TK's house. ~D

-Praetor-
07-10-2006, 02:19
Hi

I was wondering, if there`s going to be a July preview?

Or maybe you`ll just release the 0.8? :juggle2:

I presume that the later will not happen soon enough, so I`m just asking if there`s going to be a preview at all.

Thaks in advance, bye. :2thumbsup:

Teleklos Archelaou
07-10-2006, 02:34
There will be one. We're just waiting on one more important element - but it might be a little longer before it comes in.

-Praetor-
07-10-2006, 02:41
Ok, thanks!

PS: That clears the possiblility that EB 0.8 is released during this month. :( Patience.

edyzmedieval
07-10-2006, 11:38
Ok, thanks!

PS: That clears the possiblility that EB 0.8 is released during this month. :( Patience.

Patience man. EB v0.8 is going to be released soon.
The forums will be surely empty when 0.8 will come out. ~D