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Duke Malcolm
06-08-2006, 16:11
A boy in Alloa threw petrol bombs at the Clackmannanshire Council Buildings in efforts to spark a Nationalist and Anti-English Revolution, to separate Scotland from the United Kingdom.

Auntie Provides (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/5059730.stm)

Vive la Revolution!

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-08-2006, 16:12
aw, bless, they're so cute.

scooter_the_shooter
06-08-2006, 16:18
If the majority of scots want free....then attack! If not.... shoot this traitor!

Mikeus Caesar
06-08-2006, 16:23
I really don't see the point in the minority of Scots who want independence. After all, wouldn't Scotland be worse off if it was independent? All the faffing around at the border and that stuff. Plus, we have enough small countries with no real power in Europe anyway, we don't need Scotland adding to it.

A Scottish Independence campaign might start, but it would never succeed.

Fragony
06-08-2006, 16:23
Ah just give it to them, or the world will think you value a country where men wear dresses.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-08-2006, 16:34
wouldn't Scotland be worse off if it was independent?.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/23/noil23.xml

English assassin
06-08-2006, 16:35
Ah just give it to them, or the world will think you value a country where men wear dresses.

Do you think we haven't tried? They won't go though. Too busy chasing jobs in the ***** cabinet.

I'm a bit baffled as to how petrol bombing Clackmannanshire Council,which so far as I know is in Scotland, is supposed to lead to the defeat of England, but there we go.

Duke Malcolm
06-08-2006, 16:53
If the majority of scots want free....then attack! If not.... shoot this traitor!

We are free. And the majority do not want the separate from the Union...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../23/noil23.xml
That was then and this is now. 30 years have passed, and with it a lot of oil has passed. I would be surprised if we get another 30 years out of it, and if we do, what then? We shall no longer have oil, no notable resource, no way of supporting the various "left of centre" parties' policies, who would be in command.

Mikeus Caesar
06-08-2006, 17:11
That was then and this is now. 30 years have passed, and with it a lot of oil has passed. I would be surprised if we get another 30 years out of it, and if we do, what then? We shall no longer have oil, no notable resource, no way of supporting the various "left of centre" parties' policies, who would be in command.

I think there are about 10 years worth of oil and gas left in the North Sea. Trust me, the last thing Scotland would want is to become independent and responsible for one of the few remaining gas reserves on Earth. With a small military, they'd be easily over-run and have their North Sea reserves captured by some desperate country.

And what would they do once the oil runs out? Their economy would have to be supported by tourism, which there isn't enough of. The country would collapse within years.

Duke Malcolm
06-08-2006, 17:21
We could conscript Scots into the Army and take over the British isles, and thence the rest of the World in a mighty Scottish Empire!

Geoffrey S
06-08-2006, 17:23
Scots run government right now, don't they? Tony Blair and Gordon Brown are both scottish, I think.

-Silent-Pariya
06-08-2006, 17:52
That link to the report is sad and funny at the same time. :inquisitive:


If they actually punish that kid harshely... i then hate the brittain.. lol

Duke Malcolm
06-08-2006, 17:59
If they actually punish that kid harshely... i then hate the brittain.. lol

You realise he tried to burn the building down? Fire-raising is a illegal and deadly, you know, everywhere...

doc_bean
06-08-2006, 18:11
Why would he want to fight for independence though ?

I think he just saw either Braveheart or Trainspotting.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-08-2006, 20:34
Scotish Independance is a backwards idea anyway.

It was a Scotish King that took the English throne in the end! The Scots won, the fact that we're all ruled by Germans now is neither here nor there.

ShadesWolf
06-08-2006, 20:40
You could say they are terrorists ?
Lets send them to the US to be dealt with

Duke Malcolm
06-08-2006, 20:43
One could say the boy committed Treason...

GoreBag
06-08-2006, 20:50
I think he just saw either Braveheart or Trainspotting.

Trainspotting had no pro-Scottish sentiment at all.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-08-2006, 21:30
Trainspotting had no pro-Scottish sentiment at all.

but the little rant about how shite Scotland is could be miscontrued to be anti-English (because the English are called Wankers) and everyone knows that is all being pro-Scottish (or pro-Welsh or pro-Irish for that matter) is about.

CBR
06-08-2006, 21:33
I think there are about 10 years worth of oil and gas left in the North Sea. Trust me, the last thing Scotland would want is to become independent and responsible for one of the few remaining gas reserves on Earth. With a small military, they'd be easily over-run and have their North Sea reserves captured by some desperate country.

And what would they do once the oil runs out? Their economy would have to be supported by tourism, which there isn't enough of. The country would collapse within years.

Norway and Denmark has so far been able to protect their own oil, so I think Scotland would have a fair chance too :inquisitive:

Im no expert on Scottish economy but a few searches came up with this: http://www.scotlandoffice.gov.uk/our-communications/release.php?id=3529


The Scottish employment rate of 75.3 per cent remains above that of the UK and almost all other countries in the European Union.

How did Scotland manage that? London sending loads of money?


CBR

doc_bean
06-08-2006, 21:38
but the little rant about how shite Scotland is could be miscontrued to be anti-English (because the English are called Wankers) and everyone knows that is all being pro-Scottish (or pro-Welsh or pro-Irish for that matter) is about.

Yes, that rant was what I was referring to.

GoreBag
06-08-2006, 21:52
but the little rant about how shite Scotland is could be miscontrued to be anti-English (because the English are called Wankers) and everyone knows that is all being pro-Scottish (or pro-Welsh or pro-Irish for that matter) is about.

Indeed, 'misconstrued'.

Joker85
06-08-2006, 22:10
http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Mel-Gibson---Braveheart--C10102033.jpeg

drone
06-08-2006, 22:28
Love the last paragraph:

Commenting on her son's 15-year-old friend, who has already been discharged by the Children's Panel after admitting the offence, she said: "The so-called accomplice got off scot free - not even a slap on the wrist."
It's all code - Free the Scots!

Big King Sanctaphrax
06-08-2006, 23:14
setting fire to shrubs near the building.

Look out Che Guevara.

I can see why you'd do it though, at his age. I imagine playing the 'dangerous revolutionary' card would get you laid at least once, even if she did wear clothes made out of soy.

scotchedpommes
06-08-2006, 23:26
One could say the boy committed Treason...

:laugh4:

Someone like you would say so, yes.
Charge him for the fire-raising, yes. Anything more is simply ridiculous, especially
considering the lack of significant damage.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-08-2006, 23:49
He's just lucky he didn't set fire to a shipyard, thats one of only two crimes that still carries the mandatory death penalty.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-09-2006, 00:07
He's just lucky he didn't set fire to a shipyard, thats one of only two crimes that still carries the mandatory death penalty.

Sadly the Human Rights Act got rid of that.~:mecry:

English assassin
06-09-2006, 10:04
Look out Che Guevara.

I can see why you'd do it though, at his age. I imagine playing the 'dangerous revolutionary' card would get you laid at least once, even if she did wear clothes made out of soy.

Raunchily right wing gets you better looking girls though. But possibly not in Scotland.

Husar
06-09-2006, 10:29
Scotish Independance is a backwards idea anyway.

It was a Scotish King that took the English throne in the end! The Scots won, the fact that we're all ruled by Germans now is neither here nor there.
1. We Germans are nice people.:hippie:

2. How do you get the idea of Germans ruling England? I´m missing some knowledge there I think.

InsaneApache
06-09-2006, 10:31
Saxe-Coberg-Gotha, the Queens real surname. :balloon2:

Ronin
06-09-2006, 10:38
You realise he tried to burn the building down? Fire-raising is a illegal and deadly, you know, everywhere...


Why do you hate freedom? :laugh4:

doc_bean
06-09-2006, 11:01
Saxe-Coberg-Gotha, the Queens real surname. :balloon2:

same as our royal family (though we have 'van' (from) in front I think)

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-09-2006, 12:55
Sadly the Human Rights Act got rid of that.~:mecry:


Not for "Arson in her Majesty's ship yards" and "Piracy on the high sees."

Actually the Queen's real surname is Mountbatton, but she got all new-agey on Philip.

Regardless they're all Germans.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-09-2006, 14:14
Not for "Arson in her Majesty's ship yards" and "Piracy on the high sees."

Actually the Queen's real surname is Mountbatton, but she got all new-agey on Philip.

Regardless they're all Germans.


I honestly thought they got rid of all capital punishment.

Byzantine Mercenary
06-09-2006, 14:23
realy? but they wouldn't execute anyone suuuurely?

Taffy_is_a_Taff
06-09-2006, 14:41
realy? but they wouldn't execute anyone suuuurely?

I'd be shocked if they did, even if somebody started a fire in a dockyard/indulged in piracy were the old laws still in place. However, I don't think they are even technically allowed to consider it anymore.

English assassin
06-09-2006, 15:06
Taffy is right and goes to the head of the class. Capital punishment for trason and piracy with violence, the last two capital offences, was abolished in 1998 under the Crime and Disorder Act.

In 1999 the UK signed sixth protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights which formally abrogates any right the state might have claimed to reintroduce any capital punishment.

[lawyer off]

Duke Malcolm
06-09-2006, 16:37
Actually the Queen's real surname is Mountbatton, but she got all new-agey on Philip.

Battenburg, Philip's name was Battenburg but was changed to Mountbatten.

Avicenna
06-09-2006, 17:05
Saxe-Coberg-Gotha, the Queens real surname. :balloon2:

Isn't it Saxe-Coburg-Gotha?

InsaneApache
06-09-2006, 17:58
If it is, then I stand corrected. :bow:

Duke of Gloucester
06-10-2006, 09:49
Battenburg, Philip's name was Battenburg but was changed to Mountbatten.

Louis Alexander Mountbatten, 1st Marquess of Milford Haven changed the family surname from Battenberg to Mountbatten in 1917 to distance himself from the enemy. Obviously this was before Philip was born, but his family surname was Battenberg.

InsaneApache
06-10-2006, 11:54
I like battenburg, especially the marzipan. With a cup of tea of course.