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Byzantine Prince
06-13-2006, 03:22
Is pantheism a form of atheism? If god is everywhere does that also mean that he is existence itself, and therefore not god anymore. Pantheist philosophers like Spinoza wrote about God in an all-inclusive way, but is this an undertone of disguised atheism to save his own skin?

Spetulhu
06-13-2006, 04:31
"God is everywhere" sounds exactly like your average christianity, doesn't it? Does this mean they disprove their own deity?

Redleg
06-13-2006, 04:42
Are you refering to Classical Pantheism or Naturalistic Pantheism?

I personally feel that both tend toward theism not atheism.

AntiochusIII
06-13-2006, 06:40
I'd rather think not. I maintain that atheism does not recognize the concept of God, whereas pantheism recognize such concept, except that it recognize "God" as everything, as opposed to the popular view of Judeo-Christian-Islamic view of God as a Creator entity.

Since hinduism fundamentally is pantheism, and nobody would say hindus are atheists, I voted for the second choice.

Banquo's Ghost
06-13-2006, 07:10
Of course not. Pantheists still recognise a supernatural god-figure (or many such in the other defintion).

Atheists don't believe in any god. The philosophies are opposed.

Pindar
06-13-2006, 07:17
The two concepts are mutually exclusive.

rory_20_uk
06-13-2006, 10:15
The two concepts are mutually exclusive.

That was my take too.

~:smoking:

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-13-2006, 14:27
The two concepts are mutually exclusive.

Yes, Pantheism is just less about a personified god.

Sjakihata
06-13-2006, 15:59
It's a dichotomy. Divded into two concepts that mutually exclude one another, as Pindar said.