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TB666
06-28-2006, 12:30
A new unit is up at the .com.
http://www.totalwar.com/index.html?page=/en/medieval2/&nav=/en/medieval2/0/
Looks nice IMO

cegorach
06-28-2006, 13:03
Finally we are in !
Nothing really special, but untill second half of the XVIth century Polish army was not too different than our western neighbours, maybe except the wagons used in slightly upgraded Hussite manner.:book:

Watchman
06-28-2006, 13:05
Okay, so it's a mounted crossbowman... with a shield ? And not a small one at that. I know horse-archers could manage with a shield strapped to the left arm, but crossbowmen...? :inquisitive:

Kralizec
06-28-2006, 13:20
Maybe not the best unit, but it's nice to see that CA is apparently adding more variety to factions that originally got the stick in the ol' MTW. (Poland had only one unique unit)

Herkus
06-28-2006, 13:33
nice looking unit, lithuanian pavise shield, small crossbow, probably also sword as secondary weapon, though I somehow don't like the clothes, looks so generic.

cegorach
06-28-2006, 13:34
Well... there was hardly anything worth adding when it comes to the Poles - if asked about 5 unique Polish units from Medieval period I would have hard time in answering and even finding anything...

The Blind King of Bohemia
06-28-2006, 13:43
Mounted crossbowmen were known to carry small shields, such as in the swiss wars with burgundy. The pavise type shield would have been used by the lithuanians and some poles so they haven't done that bad a job

econ21
06-28-2006, 13:54
I know an advantage of crossbow is that they are easier to combine with shields than regular bows. I had not realised that also applied to horsemen, but I guess it could (it would be less of an asset, though, given the vulnerability of the horse with or without shield).

I can't get see the new unit on the com (they never appear on my computer when they are just released) but it'll be nice to see mounted crossbowmen make a return in M2TW. I loved them in MTW - you got them earlier than the foot ones, their ammo lacks forever, they are AP, they have decent armour themselves and they are fast making great chasers of routers. I could nearly always find a place for a couple of these guys if allowed to recruit them.

Furious Mental
06-28-2006, 15:38
Nice unit. But would a mounted crossbowman actually use a crossbow with a foot hold on it (the description says he has a smaller crossbow intended for use from horseback)?

cegorach
06-28-2006, 15:53
I would gladly see Rac cavalry as well - the guys in red and with lances here

http://www.totalwar.org.pl/gallery/Orsza%201514.jpg

Orda Khan
06-28-2006, 16:16
Nice to see a unit that is quite plain and ordinary looking. My only complaint is that I could hardly see it, the background is too dark

.......Orda

Yggdrasill
06-28-2006, 16:59
I think the addition of this unit, considering the name in original language, actually hints at the impact the modding community has had on the TW team.

Lord Adherbal
06-28-2006, 17:12
looks like the horse has stirrups (which the rider is not using) but no saddle ?

Duke John
06-29-2006, 08:01
Strange that it has no saddle. But the Feudal Knight didn't have one either. Only a protection plate at the front. Luckily they are modelling the fingers of soldiers, talk about detail, dude! :2thumbsup:

Rodion Romanovich
06-29-2006, 08:50
Damn I can't find the 3D units anymore. What menu option are they under?

Husar
06-29-2006, 10:16
Strange that it has no saddle. But the Feudal Knight didn't have one either. Only a protection plate at the front. Luckily they are modelling the fingers of soldiers, talk about detail, dude! :2thumbsup:
Real detail is when they start animating the fingers...~;)

Rodion Romanovich
06-29-2006, 11:53
Real detail is when they start animating the fingers...~;)
and the hair ~:) and sweatdrops in the forehead ~:)

IrishArmenian
06-30-2006, 20:50
Where do you go to find this new unit?

econ21
06-30-2006, 23:33
Where do you go to find this new unit?

Click on something like game info on the M2TW splash page, then click on units. But I can never see the new ones unless I first delete my temporary internet files for some reason.

roman pleb
07-01-2006, 20:59
[QUOTE=LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix]and the hair ~:) and sweatdrops in the forehead ~:)[/QOUTE]
And then our computers crash
:dizzy2:

Silver Rusher
07-08-2006, 21:15
and the hair ~:) and sweatdrops in the forehead ~:)
Talk about unfriendly to modders! I sure as hell hope it isn't that detailed.