Imperialist Club III

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

In direct response to the Conservative Club presence, in what will likely be the re-emergance of the Clubs, we Imperialists must now rally to our own banner! (Psst...we need a banner. Help!)



Guardians of the Empire
Duke Malcolm
King Henry V
Evil_Maniac From Mars

Lords
King Ragnar (Lord of the Borders)
Ianofsmeg16 (King of Mann and the Isles, commander in chief of armies in the Iberian Penninsular and owner of some slightly disgruntled peasants in Cornwall; Lord Ian of Smeg)

Honoured Members (including the Pudding Commandos)
spmetla (PC)

Members
(Roll Call Please...)
Csar
Keba (Baron of the new Austro-Hungarian territories) :2thumbsup:

Peasants ~;)
Banquo's Ghost
Kralizec


Code of the Empire

[Perplexed]

Awesome. Anyone for a game of Risk?

[JAG]

Oh my, not again. This one is even more farcical than the Conservative jamboree and possibly even more repulsive.

[rory_20_uk]

Oh my, not again. This one is even more farcical than the Conservative jamboree and possibly even more repulsive.

Farcical yes.

Imperialism reeks of one sort of person bieng better than another. This is wrong and repulsive.

The only people who are right are socialists, and everyone else is incorrect. Although this too might appear to stratify society, that only goes to show how stupid non-socialists are...

~:smoking:

[Al Khalifah]

Is this the club for the kind of bizarre weirdos that used to form the Diplomacy Club? Sitting together and cackling to themselves about "the good old days" and saying strange things like "aha I just conquered Prussia ahahah!"

Seriously guys, imperialism is dead. Rampant capitalism is the way forward.

[Perplexed]

Rampant capitalism is the way forward.

Maybe, if the only way forward is down into the basement.

[Al Khalifah]

You may snigger now, but in 30 years time when you give your nationality as Coca-Cola-ish we will see who is laughing. I predict me - as their new Director for Shutting Up Disaffected Workers.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Imperialism can go with capitalism my friends.

@ Rory: Someone has to rule. Cabinets and Presidents and Prime Ministers and Chancellors are doing it now, why not a constitutional monarch? I'm speaking for Germany here, of course...

@ JAG: Thanks, we always appreciare your good wishes. :laugh4:

EDIT: Would you prefer Stalinism?

[Perplexed]

You may snigger now, but in 30 years time when you give your nationality as Coca-Cola-ish we will see who is laughing. I predict me - as their new Director for Shutting Up Disaffected Workers.

Maybe that's why all these people are working so hard to destroy the human race within the next three decades.

[Aenlic]

Shhhhh! If we're quiet and sneaky, we can steal their champagne and caviar. WTH? This is just bubbly wine and salty fish eggs! Posers!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

We keep the real stuff in the back. ~;)

[Aenlic]

Dang! I knew I should have looked harder. Got me. I was fooled by the crepe paper draped on the buffet table. It looked so fancy compared to the usual card table with paper cups, Cheetos and a bottle MD 20/20 they have over in the Conservative Club lounge.

[AntiochusIII]

Dang! I knew I should have looked harder. Got me. I was fooled by the crepe paper draped on the buffet table. It looked so fancy compared to the usual card table with paper cups, Cheetos and a bottle MD 20/20 they have over in the Conservative Club lounge.You forgot free guns and rifles and knives. I think over here they carry machine guns and ironclads instead.

[Perplexed]

It might be a bit difficult to carry around an ironclad, especially in a private lounge...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Dang! I knew I should have looked harder. Got me. I was fooled by the crepe paper draped on the buffet table. It looked so fancy compared to the usual card table with paper cups, Cheetos and a bottle MD 20/20 they have over in the Conservative Club lounge.
Cheetos!?!?!?!



Be right back.

[spmetla]

Hmm... an Imperialist Club aye?

Well count me in so long as I'm one of the powers and not the colonies. Let's see what my qualities are, I fought in a war of "American Imperialism" as some say it is. Hell just make me Col and I'll be your Wellington in India!

[Banquo's Ghost]

My ancestors have a long tradition of being oppressed by imperialists, so I was wondering if I might apply for the post of Downtrodden Mass Which Requires CivilisingTM?

You can prohibit my language, religion and everything. I'll even instigate several rebellions so you can randomly execute my wife and children, and call me ungrateful.
*tugs forelock and tries to look simian*


~;)

[King Ragnar]

Sign me up, for Queen and Country.

[AntiochusIII]

It might be a bit difficult to carry around an ironclad, especially in a private lounge...No, no, no. You see, in the room that they hide their caviar and champagne, there's a door that leads to a hidden hangar! They kept their fancy ships-of-the-lines there just in case some fake Indians want to steal some tea from the ships.

By the way, where can I sign up for the position of the colonial plantation slave?

[rory_20_uk]

I prefer a Kingdom to an Imperial state. One is so much more poncy than the other.

~:smoking:

[Ianofsmeg16]

Sign me up again EMFM!
Are we going to have titles again?:2thumbsup:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

My ancestors have a long tradition of being oppressed by imperialists, so I was wondering if I might apply for the post of Downtrodden Mass Which Requires CivilisingTM?

You can prohibit my language, religion and everything. I'll even instigate several rebellions so you can randomly execute my wife and children, and call me ungrateful.
*tugs forelock and tries to look simian*


~;)
Gotcha. :2thumbsup:




Sure Ian, go ahead. Make them as long as you like. :2thumbsup:

[Kralizec]

Oooh I want to be a peasant :help: :jumping:

[Bar Kochba]

can i be the token jew?

[Papewaio]

For Queen and Country?

What is this a music convention of country muso's playing Queen or a bunch of trannies forming their own country... I'm sure a few of them have docked their ironclad. :dizzy2:

[Csargo]

Count me in

[Ianofsmeg16]

EDIT: Double post (wow first one!)

[Ianofsmeg16]

Sure Ian, go ahead. Make them as long as you like. :2thumbsup:

King of Mann and the Isles, commander in chief of armies in the Iberian Penninsular (Down with Portugal :laugh4: haha) and owner of some slightly disgruntled peasants in Cornwall; Lord Ian of Smeg :2thumbsup:

I'll just let you guys know that I dont agree with any sort of country bashing, i know it probably wont happen here but if it does, then i'm out...

So anyone for cards and whiskey chaps?

[spmetla]

Country bashing?:inquisitive: I didn't even know there were countries around anymore, I thought they were all just colonies in waiting. They'll want us back, our civilizing influence on the other "nation states" is too overwhelming to ignore.

[Avicenna]

Yuck.

Imperialism = empires with a dictator plonked on the top and therefore = Stalin and USSR?

[Keba]

This is interesting ... count me in, as the token Austro-Hungarian noble, so it's not all Brits.


Imperialism = empires with a dictator plonked on the top and therefore = Stalin and USSR?

Or Napoleon. :2thumbsup:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'll just let you guys know that I dont agree with any sort of country bashing, i know it probably wont happen here but if it does, then i'm out...

So anyone for cards and whiskey chaps?

We had country bashing here? I didn't know that...


A warning to all then. All country bashing that is not in good humour and jest (a jest that gets both sides laughing) will most certainly not be tolerated. :knight:

[Lemur]

If you're going to claim to be good Imperialists, I hope you all know the extra verses to God Save the Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_The_Queen#Lyrics). Especially the bits about "frustrate their knavish tricks" and "rebellious Scots to crush." That song gets weirder the further you go.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

:I'm foreign and I even know parts of them. :laugh4:



And then the British Grenadiers...:2thumbsup:

[King Ragnar]

Ill Be Lord Of The Borders( Uk that is).
And what the hell was Pap talking about?
And Furthermore Imperialism rules, we will regain our strength and regain our colonies, we are coming for the Aussies first.

[Papewaio]

Imperialism ran its course. A lot of it was bad, a bit of it was good and in some cases it left behind insitutions that were better then what went before.

However Imperialism is most close to a form of multi-generational facism with the title handed down a family line, but without the snappy Hugo Boss uniforms.

[King Ragnar]

Thats why we love it ~D, alot of people cant really knock Imperialism you yourself included as you wouldnt exsist without same for many other people in the world today.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Thats why we love it ~D, alot of people cant really knock Imperialism you yourself included as you wouldnt exsist without same for many other people in the world today.

But then I wonder how many people and cultures would exist today that don't, because of the genocides and other crimes perpetrated in the cause of Civilising the Great Unwashed?

:book:

[King Ragnar]

But then I wonder how many people and cultures would exist today that don't, because of the genocides and other crimes perpetrated in the cause of Civilising the Great Unwashed?

:book:

Meh not many, a few african tribes maybe some Native americans and maybe some more Aborgines (sp), but i mean i dont really care if they exsisted or not, do you?

Does it actually affect you and your life that a few tribes have been destroyed?

[solypsist]

country bashing = warnings.

you know the rules.

[King Ragnar]

Country Bashing where?

[Ianofsmeg16]

What soly is saying is that there is the possibility (with an Imperialist club) that there will eventually be a "my country is better than yours" type thing. I hope there isnt, I see this club as a bit of fun, something to do etc Not as a major political statement.
I'm all for the club, i just dont want it degenerating into country bashing.

[King Ragnar]

Fair enough but where is the country bashing?

[rory_20_uk]

There is good intel that country bashing might occur in the future. And so best pre-emptively sort it out.

And to keep with in tune with current affairs, I imagine everyone involved in posting on the thread better be banned, just in case... :2thumbsup:

~:smoking:

[Banquo's Ghost]

Meh not many, a few african tribes maybe some Native americans and maybe some more Aborgines (sp), but i mean i dont really care if they exsisted or not, do you?

Does it actually affect you and your life that a few tribes have been destroyed?

Seeing as how this is intended to be a light hearted thread, I simply won't answer that beyond a :shame:

*withdraws*

[King Ragnar]

Once again how has it affected you and your life banquo's Ghost?

[Perplexed]

Once again how has it affected you and your life banquo's Ghost?

That attitude throughout history has affected all our lives, my friend, and not in a good way. I hope you can understand that someday.

[Divinus Arma]

King Ragnar, what gives man? A little angry today? I can understand, since I called for the extermination of humanity this morning.

However, I happen to be an equal opportunity offender.

You've written some things today that I have never seen from you, both in this thread and the one that got locked down for a cool off.

Seriously, are you feeling okay or do you genuinely have these bigoted views?


Prejudice in all its forms is the most evil manifestation of ignorance in human existence. Sure, we have our differences: color, beliefs, values, abilities, intelligence. But we are all still human. We all have an equal claim to walk this earth and secure the most prosperous illuminated experience possible.

I get frustrated with other cultures too. Very frustrated. But I cannot arrogantly claim superiority of worth. When we force our values on others or allow others to force values on others, then we are either bullies or the associates of bullies.

[Duke Malcolm]

I feel that I must stipulate, after the fall of the previous Imperialist Clubs, that this Imperialist Club the third should be not for promoting Imperialism, rather commemorating our Imperialist past. Celebrating the good of our Empires while also acknowledging and regretting the ills of our Empires.

And, of course, singing "God Save the Queen", "Land of Hope and Glory", and "Rule Britannia"...


If you're going to claim to be good Imperialists, I hope you all know the extra verses to God Save the Queen. Especially the bits about "frustrate their knavish tricks" and "rebellious Scots to crush." That song gets weirder the further you go.

"Rebellious Scots to crush" and the verse whence it came were omitted in the 18th century, not long after they were added (contrary to SNP propaganda). Verses 4 and 5 are still in the official version. That article is erroneous...

[Ianofsmeg16]

Rule Brittania would make a far better anthem than god save the queen.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I feel that I must stipulate, after the fall of the previous Imperialist Clubs, that this Imperialist Club the third should be not for promoting Imperialism, rather commemorating our Imperialist past. Celebrating the good of our Empires while also acknowledging and regretting the ills of our Empires.


Agreed.

[spmetla]

Just so you know Keba I've got some Austrian nobility from many generations ago. Well actually HRE nobility but for all practical purposes they were Austrian.

So first we need a Navy, being an Army man myself I'm unqualified for this. Without a minister of the Navy how can we organize our gunboat diplomacy?

[Kralizec]

Gunboat diplomacy is outdated. Tomahawk diplomacy is the newest fad ~;)

oh wait I'm supposed to be a peasant

'elp! 'elp! I'm being repressed!
~:mecry:

[Avicenna]

I Vow to thee my Country is the best hymn you guys have by far :2thumbsup:

Ragnar: almost anything that can be called major, such as the killing of a person, to the annhilation of several tribes, will probably affect you. Almost everything affects everyone. For example, I wouldn't be typing this now if that didn't happen, as you wouldn't have posted that in the first place.

[Keba]

Just so you know Keba I've got some Austrian nobility from many generations ago. Well actually HRE nobility but for all practical purposes they were Austrian.

So first we need a Navy, being an Army man myself I'm unqualified for this. Without a minister of the Navy how can we organize our gunboat diplomacy?

Mine is actually Hungarian, with some connection to Austria ... and yes, we were the guilty ones for the break-up of the Monarchy.

The Navy ... well, uh ... the fomer territories have about six destroyers and no bigger ships, so perhaps it should indeed be tomahawk diplomacy, as Kralizec added.

[Ianofsmeg16]

Code of the Empire
any thoughts as to what our code could be?

With our new "remember not conquer" stance (with which i fully agree with Duke Malcom), it shouldnt really have anything about conquering nations should it?

[spmetla]

Well Keba, my nobility was lesser nobilty. They were Moravians within the Austrian Empire, first knighted in 1547. Later on the moved to Austria and by the fall of the HRE empire they had already lost their status for the most part.
If I go really far back on my other lines I get two lines to Charlemagne, course that means there was some incest by 30 degrees or so. :dizzy2: But don't worry, no chinless wonder here.