Australia's Ms World Entrant, Yes she is a Mensa Member...

[Papewaio]

Mensa and Muslim (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/beauty-and-beastly-selection/2006/07/05/1151779015376.html)


The controversy has overshadowed 20-year-old Miss Houssami's achievement of becoming Australia's first contestant of Islamic and mixed cultural background - her mother is Indian and her father Lebanese.
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Miss Houssami, a member of Mensa who is studying liberal arts at Sydney University, hit back at the criticism.
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Miss Houssami also hopes to dispel myths about Islam by competing. "Religion is something that is interpreted by the individual and I try to focus on the moral values of religion," she said. "I will wear a bikini but not a string bikini, so as long as it is not skimpy."

Aussies, we just know how to intergrate better... and our other forms of calculas ain't to shabby either. :laugh4: Seriously it is nice to see some of the other sides of the equation and not just the riots and hatred spewed by fringe dwellers of all cultures.

[Divinus Arma]

The proper term is Mensan.

edit: Aren't I a pompous ass?

[Big_John]

I will wear a bikini but not a string bikini, so as long as it is not skimpy.weak to the hoop. :no:


if you're going to the hole, take it with authority.

[Ice]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/05/sabrinahoussami_wideweb__470x334,0.jpg

~:eek:

Nice.

[Lehesu]

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[Husar]

I like her face and what she said.:2thumbsup:

[Banquo's Ghost]

Removed post:

On reflection, I don't think my post added much except the possibility for derailment of this positive thread.

:bow:

[Quietus]

Is she first generation or second generation? Second generation immigrants are much easier to integrate.

[English assassin]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best way to build links with other cultures is by oggling their hotties.~:grouphug:

[Rodion Romanovich]

Bah, Mensa doesn't mean intelligent, it means good at IQ tests. There was a time when I was young and naive, when I had full marks on most IQ tests, now I get around 97-99 percent correct answers but consider myself much more clever and I think that the connections you're supposed to find in IQ test questions are very unnatural and uncommon in science, real life and other intelligence-demanding situations you go through in real life work and spare time. I see Mensa membership as more of a personal declaration of stupidity and need for attention than a sign of intelligence.

Though one thing can't be denied, and that is that Ms Australia is very good-looking! Since personality can't be measured in 1 hour anyway I fail to see the point of including personality aspects in Ms World contests. Not that that means personality aspects aren't important in real-life partner choice situations (I for one wouldn't want a psychopath for partner...).

[AntiochusIII]

(I for one wouldn't want a psychopath for partner...).Bondage :leer:

I really don't understand the "controversy" behind this at all. Some bigots...

[Rodion Romanovich]

Bondage :leer:

I really don't understand the "controversy" behind this at all. Some bigots...

Well, at the very least, having a personality aspect in Ms World contests is to encourage making quick judgements about people's personalities based on a limited set of first impressions and simplifying generalizations.

[doc_bean]

I agree, it should be all about the looks.


Okay it is all about the looks, but they should be honest about it.


And have more bikini sections.

[yesdachi]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best way to build links with other cultures is by oggling their hotties.~:grouphug:
:2thumbsup:

[naut]

She's in the most Beautiful but Smarter Thread, is she not?

Regarding IQ tests there is not % marks, it is a complitely different grading system. Well thats what knowledgable people have told me. And that 140+ is v.good?

[AntiochusIII]

I'm not sure symbolic logic, or precision, or the ability to quickly process information and respond correctly are the same as intelligence, or wisdom, or the ability to analyze complex ideas and formulate that of your own individuality.

"Intelligent people" IQ societies are just, lame. I couldn't remember the last time I took an IQ test and even if I happen to get 180 score or something, it'd be worth just about nothing and proves nothing.

Basing intelligence on IQ is like wearing a T-shirt with your SAT score on it and gloats the world. High IQ scores do not prove Ms. Houssami smart.

Her picture proves she's hot, though. And that's all that count. :2thumbsup:

[Rodion Romanovich]

She's in the most Beautiful but Smarter Thread, is she not?

Regarding IQ tests there is not % marks, it is a complitely different grading system. Well thats what knowledgable people have told me. And that 140+ is v.good?
yes, it's in numbers not percentage, but I felt it would be pointless to mention the number, because it varies from IQ test to IQ test. Some tests only go up to 130 or so, others go up to 150, and there's no way of testing if you have something as high as 200. Furthermore it's possible to increase your IQ by up to 70 points or so by simply practising IQ tests. So my score isn't really that relevant I suppose, nobody's score is... What is relevant though is how many of those stupid questions they made up you scored as it's easier to relate to for someone who isn't making those tests and setting the IQ scores by rolling a dice.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Now more pics please! :yes:

[yesdachi]

yes, it's in numbers not percentage,
FYI - But percentages are important for mensa membership.
Mensa was founded in England in 1946 by Roland Berrill, a barrister, and Dr. Lance Ware, a scientist and lawyer. They had the idea of forming a society for bright people, the only qualification for membership of which was a high IQ. The original aims were, as they are today, to create a society that is non-political and free from all racial or religious distinctions. The society welcomes people from every walk of life whose IQ is in the top 2% of the population, with the objective of enjoying each other's company and participating in a wide range of social and cultural activities.

[macsen rufus]

Nyah! I qualify for Mensa but thought it'd more elitist to turn them down.... that photo just made me reconsider their social scene :laugh4:

[Al Khalifah]

I would.

[whyidie]

weak to the hoop. :no:


if you're going to the hole, take it with authority.

hahaha

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

:2thumbsup:

The evil West hits back, it seems.

"Religion is something that is interpreted by the individual and I try to focus on the moral values of religion"

I'd say that indicates she's pretty intelligant.

[Papewaio]

Web quotes (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Qc54CpRVSQIJ:yahoo.australiatests.com/guestbook/%3Fv%3D+Sabrina+Houssami&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk&cd=18)


. It was very pleasing as one might imagine; overall I found the in-depth analysis insightful and intriguing, though I'm not a fan of categorising intelligence into a set of numbers...but my sincere thanks to the Test Team for putting together an easy-to-take, intelligible test.

Seems that this might be the same person, and she too doesn't agree with IQ being a set of numbers...

[Fragony]

I'd Fat her wa but she isn't that goodlooking.

[Ironside]

She's in the most Beautiful but Smarter Thread, is she not?

Regarding IQ tests there is not % marks, it is a complitely different grading system. Well thats what knowledgable people have told me. And that 140+ is v.good?

The IQ system is based on statistics.
Basically 100 is the average and the rest of the population follows the normal distribution curve. Usually 15 is used as the distribution number (correct word?) so that about 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115. The system got problems handling people with very high IQ and very low IQ though.

For Mensa membership (and from what I've heard is the top 1%) you'll need an IQ above 135, with a distribution number of 15 (it's a multiplier, used to getter a better scale).

As for IQ tests, they should have a high correlation with intelligence (and some types ofl education, the average IQ values have improved with about 20 points since the first ones vere made), but as said can show quite different results if not properly done. Having high intelligence and using your intelligence well, can differ quite a lot though.

[Fragony]

For Mensa membership (and from what I've heard is the top 1%) you'll need an IQ above 135, with a distribution number of 15 (it's a multiplier, used to getter a better scale).


Buahahaha I was once tested at 138, I am going to join them and ask stupid questions just to annoy these intullektuwels :laugh4:

[AntiochusIII]

Buahahaha I was once tested at 138, I am going to join them and ask stupid questions just to annoy these intullektuwels :laugh4:I prefer the intelligentsia, the academaniacs, Mandark, and the commies. ~;)

Oh, and Lex Luthor.

[English assassin]

Do any other UK members recall that for years the UK face of MENSA was Sir Clive Sinclair?

A man who was SO clever, he mated a bathtub with a hoover and thought the great British Public would like to drive around in it. http://www.sinclairc5.com/ (Can you believe people actually took these things on the road?) MENSA: the club for people who are so clever they are stupid. (And he had a beard. A ginger beard.)

Somehow I feel Miss Houssami is a much better advert for them.

[Duke of Gloucester]

distribution number = standard deviation (I think)

[Keba]

Most intelligence test present abstract problems ... which is one of the problems. There was a test the professor did on my Sociology class. He presented two problems, one abstract, the other concrete (as in, a real-life situation).

The average results were ... 80% of the students gave incorrect answers in the first question ... 10% gave the incorrect answer in the second one.

Intelligence is not all it's cracked up to be ... and is by no means a measure of success. A friend of mine is a Mensa member, absolutely brilliant man. He is still in High School, and it is his sixth year there (of a four-year education).

[Rodion Romanovich]

distribution number = standard deviation (I think)

yes, standard deviation has a middle point (in the case of IQ it's 100), and a measure of how wide the curve is. If you allow values up to 200 you must also allow values down to 0, if you allow values above 200 you must also allow negative values on the scale... Imagine having -100 IQ... :laugh4: