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ShadesWolf
07-12-2006, 20:30
Yes this isnt a joke its an example to Blairs Britain




Couple with 10 children plan 'sham divorce' to gain bigger council house
by COLIN FERNANDEZ, Daily Mail
21:56pm 9th July 2006


A couple with 10 children who receive nearly £28,000 a year in benefits are set to divorce so they can get a second free house from the state.

Robert Bentley, 47, lives with his second wife Nichola, 27, in a three-bedroom semi-detached home in a smart suburb of Bristol, paid for by the taxpayer.

But as the council has so far refused to pay for a bigger house for his enormous family, he believes the only option is to undergo a sham divorce so that they will be re-housed.

Now the couple have complained that their three-bedroom housing association property in Bradley Stoke, Bristol, is too small. They have begged South Gloucestershire Council for a larger house - and are to split up to get re-housed.

Mr Bentley, who hasn't worked since 2003, said: 'I don't think it's too much to ask. This house is just too small for all of us and the children are always arguing. 'I've got depression and it's too much to cope with. Myself and Nichola are now getting a divorce because we can't manage. 'I've been told the only way to get moved to the top of the list is if I declare myself homeless.'

Mr Bentley, a widower, has eight children from his first marriage - Sarah, 23, Jodie and Rebecca, 19, Nicholas, 17, Ross, 15, David, 12, Cassandra, 10, and Maddison, five. He married his new wife Nichola, 29 , in November 2005 and moved into her home with his five youngest children and her two daughters, Charlotte, six, and Katie, three.

She then had twins - Jessika and Chloe, now eight weeks old - and his daughter Rebecca has recently had a baby girl, Tamsin.

Their home in Bradley Stoke has two estate cars in the drive.

In their living room they have a wide screen TV, dvd player and video, freeview box and a £280 X-box game console. The couple's wedding in 2005 was partly funded by a £600 loan from the Benefit Agency.

Mr Bentley said: ''We all moved in and at first it was ok. Myself and Nichola had a bedroom, the two lads shared a bedroom and the five girls shared a room. 'But then it got worse and worse. The lads rowed - one of the doors is still off the hinges from when they were fighting each other. 'It just became unbearable. I couldn't cope because of my depression. 'Then Nichola had twins and my daughter Rebecca had a baby girl so the house got even busier.' After deciding to divorce unemployed Nichola, he contacted London-based Warden Housing Association - which runs properties in the area - for a new home. But he has been told by them that the council decides who gets the houses - and he is not top of the list. 'It's just terrible,' he said. 'I'm sleeping on the sofa, the kid's are cramped. I just want a new house so I can get on with life and maybe get a job. 'The council have offered me and the kids accommodation in a bed and breakfast but my psychiatrist thinks I might harm myself if I live there. 'And I've been told I'll only get a house if I declare myself homeless.' So Mr Bentley said he was hoping to move out along with his five children into a nearby house, while his wife remained where she was with the twins and her daughters.

'We'd be living on two sites, but I can't see another option.'

Yesterday (Thurs) a spokeswoman for South Gloucestershire Council - in charge of the Bradley Stoke area - said: 'Mr Bentley is on the housing register. 'However, there is a shortage of five-bed properties in the district and we have advised him that it may be some time before his request is met. 'We have been working with him on other suggested options including presenting himself and his children as homeless and renting privately.''







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A husband today blamed his local council for the breakdown of his marriage after he and his wife were forced to live in a three-bedroom house - with ten children.

Unemployed Robert Bentley, 47, claims his dream of living together as one big happy family in their modest home in Bradley Stoke, Bristol quickly turned into a nightmare.

But he and his wife Nichola, 29, could be stuck with each other in the "madhouse" indefinitely after the council said it could not accommodate them in separate houses.

His only option could be to declare himself and his family homeless - something he has not ruled out.

The father of ten, who already had eight children from his previous marriage, met his second wife on the internet and married her 12 months ago.

He moved in to Nichola's housing association home with five of his clan - Rebecca, 19, Ross, 15, David, 12, Cassandra, 10 and Maddison, five.

Nichola and her two daughters, Charlotte, six, and Katie, three, initially welcomed the new arrivals into their cosy but increasingly cramped home.

But then ten weeks ago, Rebecca gave birth to Tasmin, and Nichola gave birth to twins, Jessika and Chloe, two weeks later.

The strain proved simply too much for the couple after their bickering children divided along bloodlines and the house descended into a "war zone".

"It's very difficult for us living in the same house," Mr Bentley said.

"I'm currently on the sofa downstairs, my wife and the baby are in one bedroom, my two sons are in another and there's six girls in another room. My daughter is in one bed with the baby, but Maddison has to sleep on the floor.

"There's arguing all the time and there's hardly any room for them to play.

"We can't get any privacy and nor can my daughter with her baby. So we've split up.

"The trouble at the moment is we can't sit down and talk things through because we always get interrupted."

He said he was hoping to move out along with his five children into a nearby house, while his wife remained where she was with the twins and her daughters.

No house big enough

But South Gloucestershire Council have kicked any trial separation into touch after telling the couple they did not have a house big enough to accommodate him and his children.

Mr Bentley, who gave up working as a delivery driver in 1993, suffers from depression and has only worked for 18 months since then.

He and Nichola, who is also unemployed, live off benefits, but both claim they already have "full-time jobs".

The couple face three school runs and four bedtime reading shifts every day, along with industrial size quantities of laundry, cleaning and cooking.

But Mr Bentley, whose first wife died in 2003, insisted today that he had no regrets about having such a large family.

"I love children. I always have. When I met Nichola she knew all my past and what it involved. She knew I was depressed and my children had problems.

"But I think it proved too much for her in such a small house. Things could have been different if the council had something bigger, like a four or five-bedroom house."

The couple's home is run by Warden Housing Association, which only provides accommodation to families and individuals nominated by the council.

A council spokeswoman said: "Mr Bentley is on the housing register, however, there is a shortage of five bed properties in South Gloucestershire and we have advised him that it may be some time before his request is met.

"We have been working with him on other suggested options including presenting himself and his children as homeless and renting privately."

Grey_Fox
07-12-2006, 20:45
Meh. I have people like that all the time coming into the Post Office my mother runs getting the dole. Many of them are genuine, but just as many are too lazy to work and want the money for free. I go into town and see the brand new vans many of them own and their houses, the grants they are given, the electicity and phonebills the goverment pays for them and the fact that they have never worked a day in their lives. I then look at my own family in which both my parents have worked every day since they were in their teens and see that in comparison, the lazy buggers are better off than my family. They get to go to university for free and get accomodation paid for, I have to work all my holidays and weekends (including Christmas Day) just in order to pay my rent.

The stupid thing is that there is plenty of work to go around for those who want it witnessed by the fact that there is a larger immigrant worker community in Ireland than there is unemployed (not that I am saying anything bad about immigrant workers, some of them are very great friends of mine). Too many of them are just lazy 23 year olds who spend their free time doing their 16 year old girlfriends (gave him his dole every week for a couple of years while he was going out with my classmate till he moved further afield).

Big King Sanctaphrax
07-12-2006, 21:44
I'm not saying anything about the father, but they should be given a bigger house, for the welfare of the children.

Husar
07-12-2006, 21:51
lives with his second wife Nichola, 27,

He married his new wife Nichola, 29 ,
Now this is weird, split personality?:inquisitive: :laugh4:

And the guy gets 28000 a year, that´s 2333 per monthwhich I´d call quite a lot depending on what expenses he has. Is the house, water, energy all paid for or does he have to pay for that from this money?
But anyway, it´s ok to get help from the state for having children, but it should not be possible to live from child money.

Take into account that some people use less water for washing, own neither shampoo nor deodorant and wear veeeeery old dirty clothes, after some years, one has saved enough money for a whole new plasma screen.~;)

Spetulhu
07-12-2006, 22:32
10 children? Perhaps he should be given a free castration first? :dizzy2:

Louis VI the Fat
07-12-2006, 22:49
What's up today with all those 'Oh noes! It's the end of British civilization as we know it, crucify Bliar!' threads?



10 children? Perhaps he should be given a free castration first? :dizzy2:I do hope you mean sterilization? ~;)

Big King Sanctaphrax
07-12-2006, 22:58
ShadesWolf got hold of a copy of the Mail. ~;)

Spetulhu
07-13-2006, 02:20
10 children? Perhaps he should be given a free castration first? :dizzy2:


I do hope you mean sterilization? ~;)

Castration. Give him prosthetic testicles if you want to be nice, but removing the real ones is the only 100% proof method. :juggle2:

Crazed Rabbit
07-13-2006, 02:33
Man, I don't mean to offend, but I am glad I don't live in Britain.

Here's an idea: sterilization and foster homes until he gets a job and can afford a bigger house. Here's an even wackier idea: make him work.


In their living room they have a wide screen TV, dvd player and video, freeview box and a £280 X-box game console.

That's slightly irritating to those who work for a living.

Oh, and BKS-

'The council have offered me and the kids accommodation in a bed and breakfast but my psychiatrist thinks I might harm myself if I live there.
WTF? Harming himself, psychologically, by living in a B&B? I sure as heck wouldn't mind living like that.

Crazed Rabbit

ShadesWolf
07-13-2006, 06:28
ShadesWolf got hold of a copy of the Mail. ~;)

:book: oh yes, be warned...

Or should I say be afraid be very afraid. :laugh4:

I would have usually got the Telegraph, but is a little to large to put on my desk :sweatdrop:

caravel
07-13-2006, 10:55
A perfect example of the nanny state and one of it's charges, though I'm sure these types of cases exist worldwide wherever there is a welfare system, or particularly an easily abused, lax welfare system as in the The UK. The problem is that tightening up on this and even, oh the horror, kicking him off the dole and into a job, would probably be some kind of infringement of his human rights. I can imagine him now after taking it to court, talking about the stress he had suffered etc. The judge would find that he was entitled to doss his life away at the taxpayers expense, and that forcing him to go out and work might cause him to "harm himself", then he'd probably get a bucketload of compensation as well, and guess who pays for that?

rory_20_uk
07-13-2006, 14:47
I agree that this is Nanny Stateism. I don't care which party causes it (although Old Labour did create the beast) it needs to be curtailed.

I'm British, but the way things are going my children won't be born on this soil. I never thought I'd be saying that.

~:smoking:

macsen rufus
07-13-2006, 15:14
Bah!

Two child allowances per family, third strike no allowance and free vasectomy voucher. Fourth strike, hand me the bricks....

And I mean for everyone, even those in jobs and who can afford it....

rory_20_uk
07-13-2006, 15:17
Bah!

Two child allowances per family, third strike no allowance and free vasectomy voucher. Fourth strike, hand me the bricks....

And I mean for everyone, even those in jobs and who can afford it....

I disagree. If someone can afford to support 20 kids, so be it. There is a decreasing amount of state support for the first few, then nothing. But IMO the state has no right to say how individuals spend their money within the bounds of the law. I don't begrudge the massively rich having several houses or cars. If they want kids so be it. It'd benice to see successful people breeding as opposed to the type of person in the article. Sterilising him isn't going to cost us the next PM...

~:smoking:

littlelostboy
07-13-2006, 15:59
I agree that this is Nanny Stateism. I don't care which party causes it (although Old Labour did create the beast) it needs to be curtailed.:

Really? Singapore is considered one of the world's finest Nanny Stateism. Yet, we all good citizens have to work and work and work. No welfare for us. Just do whatever the Government tell us to do.


In their living room they have a wide screen TV, dvd player and video, freeview box and a £280 X-box game console.

Is that part of the state benefit??????? This guy get all these without working for them?

caravel
07-13-2006, 16:29
Is that part of the state benefit??????? This guy get all these without working for them?

I think you'll find that, that is what they've spent their money on. The point is that despite being unemployed and supported by the state, they can afford these luxuries that many low paid workers, with real commitments cannot.

Big King Sanctaphrax
07-14-2006, 14:14
You can bitch about how this bloke shouldn't have had ten children in the first place all you want, but at the end of the day he has, and it's not the kids' fault that their parents have made some extremely poor decisions in the family planning department. They need somewhere to live.

Red Peasant
07-14-2006, 15:31
Shadey strikes again. I may as well join in.

'Disgraceful! What's the country coming to! String 'em up. String Blair up. String 'em all up! We'll fight 'em on the beaches, blah, blah. I was in the war you know! Young people today don't know they're born! Wogs, spongers and commies everywhere. Hitler had the right idea!'

:laugh4:

Devastatin Dave
07-14-2006, 16:33
Posted for Fragony...
"Why take children if you can't take care of them, that is his duty not the governments. They should have put a plug in that breeding machine just to be sure, after the 4th head's entry the world having sex must be like floating in outer space anyway.

These people make me sick."

And I agree!!! Plug the whole, rip out the plumming for everyone's sake!!!