All New Medieval RPG

[Silver Rusher]

This game that I am about to tell you about is simply a combination of a few ideas I have had in the past. This is simply an RPG in which you take control of a nation in Medieval Europe/Middle East/North Africa at the time of 1100. The game is based around having as few rules as possible in an effort to keep simplicity and make the game enjoyable for everyone.

I used to play a game like this before, it was called 'The Ancient World'. It was like this one, except the moderators all had their own factions and it was set in the period of RTW. I had a lot of fun playing that game, but unfortunately it was destroyed when all the members moved onto a WWII based forum game instead.

It works like this: You post an RPG style write-up (or you could just make a simple post explaining what you did if you are strapped for time) explaining any action you wish for your country to make, and wait for it to be approved by a moderator. This action can be absolutely anything you want, as long as:

a) It is realistic (otherwise it will not be approved)

b) You are prepared to face the consequences (for example, if you were the Pope and you adopted Islam as your state religion you might expect there to be a bit of uproar among other nations, and more importantly among your own people (see below)

c) Some areas, such as battles, will have advanced rules associated with them.

d) You must also have enough money and be prepared to spend it, if you are making an action which requires a bit of dough.

Moderators will exist in the game not only to make sure there is no godmodding (for those of you that don't know, godmodding is the act of making an incredibly un-realistic action in an RPG in your favor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godmodding) but also to control the factions that are not controlled by other players, and to represent natural disasters, rebellions, uprisings, basically anything that happens outside a players control.

I hope I have made this explanation as simple as possible. :2thumbsup:

Sign-ups:
WARNING!: This game is likely to take up a fair bit of your free time. Only join in if you have some extra time on your hands, especially if you want to be a moderator.

To sign up, simply post with the role you want to play (either a faction or a moderator) and if it is a faction, choose which faction you want. The factions are divided into Major Factions and Minor Factions. The major factions are all the factions that are required to have players in order for the game to begin.

Map of the extent of most European nations in 1100: http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1100.htm

Moderators:
Silver Rusher
UltraWar
kburkert

Major Factions:
English - Csar
French - Ignoramus
Leon and Castile - Destroyer of Hope
Almoravids - Monarch
Holy Roman Empire (this represents the German part, there will also be factions to represent the Kingdom of Italy and the Kingdom of Burgundy) - Keba
Papacy (I will think of a system to include papal elections, but remember that as the pope is elected, if you sign up to play as the pope your time as pope may not last long. Same goes for all other democratic factions) -GeneralHankerchief
Byzantine Empire (East Roman Empire) - Byzantine Mercenary
Fatimid Caliphate - The Grand Mufti: Orb
Abbassid Caliphate - Bombasticus Maximus

Minor Factions:
Bohemia - Rhythmic
Hungary - Conqueror
Poland - SSNeoperestroika

Any other faction on this map, or even any other faction that existed in this time that is not included on the map (you must use evidence to back up your claim that this faction even existed at this time if you want to play as one of these)

There will be sign-up threads for this RPG in the ORG forums, the TWC forums and the .COM forums. The actual RPG itself will be played in an invision free board.

TWC thread: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1082817

[UltraWar]

I would like to be a moderator as this is a pretty great game and I would like to help the game run smoothly plus I have a lot of free time.

[Csargo]

I'll go with the English and please bear with me cause I've never done anything like this before and I have alot of free time.

[Silver Rusher]

Thanks for signing up, Csar and UltraWar. Your names have been added.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hmm... sounds interesting. I'll take the Papacy since I'm not sure how long I'll be able to play this with my full attention.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

oooh can i be the Byzantine Empire?

[UltraWar]

I have a question on when the RPG forum will be up.

When will will the RPG forum be up?

[Keba]

I can take on the Holy Roman Empire, although I guess I would preffer a minor faction, such as Norway.

I have the time, and can write, although I never really wrote on the .org.

[Silver Rusher]

All up.


I can take on the Holy Roman Empire, although I guess I would preffer a minor faction, such as Norway.

I have the time, and can write, although I never really wrote on the .org.
So what's it gonna be, Holy Roman Empire or Norway?

BTW, I think I might include the Kingdom of Burgundy and the Kingdom of Italy to follow under the rule of the HRE. I will leave that up to the Emperor's decision, however.


I have a question on when the RPG forum will be up.

When will will the RPG forum be up?
I will try to put it up once we have all our major factions.

I'm getting much more support for this than I expected. :dizzy2:

[kburkert]

Can i be a moderator as i have loads of free time.

If you need a forum i could do an invision free one and do a different background.

[Silver Rusher]

You mean on IF Skin Zone?

Added you btw kburkert.

[Csargo]

Oh and Silver Rusher this is a really good idea.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

yeah, this sure is a good idea :2thumbsup:

[Conqueror]

Hmm looks interesting. I'd like to play as the king of Hungary :crown:

[Keba]

So what's it gonna be, Holy Roman Empire or Norway?

BTW, I think I might include the Kingdom of Burgundy and the Kingdom of Italy to follow under the rule of the HRE. I will leave that up to the Emperor's decision, however.

I'll be HRE, then. And it'll make things a lot more fun with Burgundy and Italy there as well, make a lot of trouble for the Emperor.

[naut]

I would appriciate being the Minor facton - Bohemia

[Ignoramus]

Can I be France? I was going to be Scotland, but it's to far away from the centre of things for my liking.

[Silver Rusher]

Conqueror, Keba, Rhythmic and Ignoramus, thanks for signing up. You are being given your chosen factions.

Not much action over at the TWC thread, unfortunately. But I'm glad to see so many people interested over here.

[Bombasticus Maximus]

Can I be the Selijuk and how do we solve uproars, fight battles and take over new lands? What about money?

[Silver Rusher]

You sure can.

Moderators will create uproars which represent the population's reaction to a certain decision. These could be rebellions, protests, riots etc. You can solve them however you like (this is a freeform game after all) whether it be by sending spies into rebel groups to root out ringleaders and have them executed, or sending your militia through the streets killing rioters. If there is a full scale rebellion, you will need to fight them in battle.

Which brings me onto my next point: You will fight battles like this. Each participant (if there is no player to represent one of the factions, a moderator will do it instead) sends a PM to a designated mod detailing his/her exact battle plan, including back-up plans for weather complications/enemy using unexpected tactics/anything that could happen on the battlefield that could go against the plan. It should be quite detailed, too. The mod in charge of the battle will then create a write-up of the battle, combining the plans of the two armies together, taking into account effects such as terrain type (the moderator will tell each player the terrain type before they send their battle plans) to produce an outcome.

If there a) is no military presence in that area to stop you, or b) the public support of that region for you is so great that they overthrow the previous rulers and instate you or c) the current presence in the territory surrenders, the area is yours. Exactly what amount of area that is will be dependant on the enemy's decision or on your own military presence, or on a number of other factors.

Money is a bit more complicated. I will come up with a good system when we start, but this is an outline of how it will work: Each faction has their own annual income which is calculated by the moderators based on many different factors, such as the population of your lands, the size of your army, your tax rate, the wealth of your people. It will also be possible to fund projects to increase your annual income. To cut down on complication, these annual incomes will be roughly estimated, so that it is fair in comparison to other richer/poorer states. You keep a reserve of this money which you can spend on whatever you want.

BTW: I have decided to scrap elections for all factions other than the Papacy. Any other democratic factions will be kept by whoever signs up for them. It could even be possible for another group of factions to create their own papacy-style establishment...

[UltraWar]

What will we use to show who owns what region/provence [will we be using a map from MTW/RTW or a custom made one? And will it mark out the influence of the factions?]

[Silver Rusher]

There will not be regions per se, each faction will own the land that they own as a result of any event in the game that changes land ownership. Any 'official' boundary between two players' land are decided by the two factions that share it.

EDIT: By the way Bombasticus Maximus, when you say that you want the Seljuks, do you mean the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum or the Abbassid Caliphate under Seljuk Rule? I should probably make the first post more clear.

[Bombasticus Maximus]

These:
https://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7797/whozt6.jpg

[Csargo]

What about Alliances? And also how will know how large an army is how do we figure that out?

[Silver Rusher]

@Bombasticus: Yes, that's what I thought.

@Csar: I think making an alliance falls under the catagory of "do anything you want", plus it is realistic and has no special rules applied to it. The military strength and army locations of each faction will be documented with maps or something (I think)

Which reminds me, I should probably add to the first post that you need enough money to commit each action.

[kburkert]

It would be better to use just one forum.

[Csargo]

Silver Rusher what role are you going to play in this game if I may ask?

[Silver Rusher]

Moderator, of course. It says right up there in the moderators section of the thread.

[Csargo]

Sorry that was a stupid question. When do you think that the game will start?

[Silver Rusher]

We need three more players (one for the Fatimids, one for the Almoravids and one for Leon and Castile) and maybe a couple more moderators, although they are not absolutely necessary.

[Lord Winter]

Double post

[Lord Winter]

I'll sign up for Leon and Castile

[Conqueror]

I think we should keep the game open for more players to join even once we've started. I mean, if someone turns up and wants to play a minor faction, they should be allowed to join mid-game. That way we can have more players involved, which is more fun.

Oh and how fast will time advance in the game?

[Csargo]

Come on people we need more people.

[Monarch]

Drop me a PM if the papacy drops out. I like the look of this rpg I'm just not sure I want to be doing a more "battle oriented role" that I may if I was in control of a normal conquest happy nation. Pope role very much appeals.

Unless...since I don't want a battle centric role, Switzerland isn't available is it? :P j/k ofc

[Bombasticus Maximus]

I can host a forum and website for you if you like? it'd be

http://www.name.strategicwarfare.net :2thumbsup:

[Csargo]

I think there is more that one Papacy. Silver said something about Papal elections.

[Csargo]

I can host a forum and website for you if you like? it'd be

http://www.name.strategicwarfare.net :2thumbsup:

Your link doesn't work for me Maximus

[UltraWar]

Your link doesn't work for me Maximus
That is because that is a example! the "name" part is a example of what it could be. You could call it http://mrpg.strategicwarfare.net [example] or something like that.

[Monarch]

Your link doesn't work for me Maximus

Ye, thats because the "name" part would be medievalrpg, or whatever you wish to call it. He'd give you a subdomain ;)

[Csargo]

Oh oops sorry about that. Don't I feel like an idiot

[Monarch]

I've decided I'd quite like to play Scotland afterall, jsut so I can participate lol. But if for some random reason General Handkerchief is to drop out can I pelase be 1st reserve :)

[Silver Rusher]

I can host a forum and website for you if you like? it'd be

http://www.name.strategicwarfare.net :2thumbsup:
Thanks for the offer, but I have already made most of the forum on invision free.

Come on guys, we still need the Fatimids and the Almoravids to sign up, then we can begin. :2thumbsup:


I think we should keep the game open for more players to join even once we've started. I mean, if someone turns up and wants to play a minor faction, they should be allowed to join mid-game. That way we can have more players involved, which is more fun.
Don't worry, that's exactly what's going to happen. Wouldn't be very fun if the English had to play against a mod when trying to invade Scotland, would it?


Oh and how fast will time advance in the game?
I was thinking about 1 day = 1 month in game, but I will make a poll on that one. Maybe 1 day = 2 months. That way we can have maybe 6 days of playing each week for 1 year, and then use the last day to create an overview and have a big discussion about the previous 'year'.

[Csargo]

So Monarch your on my Northern border sounds like fun.

[Monarch]

Umm yeah, that was my second choice but looking at the current situation I'll take Aloravids, since we need them ;) Sorry for causing confusion.

[Silver Rusher]

You can take Scotland if you want, but we do need the Almos to begin. I will put you on them.

[Monarch]

Cool. Can anybody provide some links concerning their styles of warfare? Type of economy, type of government. It'd be greatly appreciated.

[Csargo]

So now we only need one more person.

[Csargo]

I found this on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almoravids

Though I shouldn't be helping the enemy.:laugh4:

[UltraWar]

I'm going to be intrested in what strategies will be deployed by all the factions as obviously History will definatly not repeat itself...

[Csargo]

Yeah UltraWar this should be a really fun game.

[Silver Rusher]

Yes, will be a very fun game, especially for us mods, who will get to shape history in our own way!

(goes into war-room to plan huge war in Ireland) :creep:

[scotchedpommes]

I would be interested in taking up the Croats. Although I am somewhat allergic
to Invision.

[UltraWar]

Yes, will be a very fun game, especially for us mods, who will get to shape history in our own way!

(goes into war-room to plan huge war in Ireland) :creep:

It seems both of us think alike for the Great War of Ireland! :2thumbsup:

[Silver Rusher]

I would be interested in taking up the Croats. Although I am somewhat allergic
to Invision.
Tell me about it. Although to be honest, Invisionfree is the easiest way of making a free forum (you don't even need email confirmation!) but I prefer VB myself.

Anyway, welcome aboard! I will add you as Croatia.

P.S. UltraWar, hows about I take one Irish faction, and you take another? We could let kburkert in on it as well, and have a bit of fun while everybody else plays the main game.

[UltraWar]

Tell me about it. Although to be honest, Invisionfree is the easiest way of making a free forum (you don't even need email confirmation!) but I prefer VB myself.

Anyway, welcome aboard! I will add you as Croatia.

P.S. UltraWar, hows about I take one Irish faction, and you take another? We could let kburkert in on it as well, and have a bit of fun while everybody else plays the main game.
No problem as no one will bother invading Ireland anyway...

[Csargo]

Hmmm maybe I'll invade Ireland just to ruin your fun....Nah :P

[Conqueror]

Erm, about Croatia. Wikipedia claims that they were conquered by Kalman (Coloman), King of Hungary in 1097, although he wasn't crowned as the king of Croatia untill 1102. I can't verify if these years are correct, but if they are, letting SSNeoperestroika play Croatia could be kinda strange.

[Silver Rusher]

Maybe SSNeoperestroika could play as the Fatimids in that case.

EDIT: Or, even better, you could play as Serbia or another Balkan faction.

[Csargo]

So Silver have you finished the forum that we are playing on?

[scotchedpommes]

Hm, I couldn't remember the exact year. My only plan had been to make sure
that didn't come to pass. As far as I am aware, the Serbian state didn't become
a power of any significance until later. I'm not looking to play a major faction.

[Silver Rusher]

So Silver have you finished the forum that we are playing on?
Pretty much, yes (I still need to put in rule threads etc.). If you want to go there and have a look, here is the link:

http://z14.invisionfree.com/12th_Century_Glory/index.php

[Csargo]

Alright I joined We just need someone else to join as the Fatmids

[UltraWar]

You could just abduct someone and make them the Fatmids...But that isn't a good thing to do...

[Please can someone be the Fatmids!]

[Csargo]

Maybe you could try to post in another part of the forum Silver Rusher.

[Csargo]

You could just abduct someone and make them the Fatmids...But that isn't a good thing to do...

[Please can someone be the Fatmids!]

:laugh4:

You: Hey you come here your playing the Fatmids

Abductee: I don't even know what a Fatmid is. Someone Help ME!!!!!

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[zelda12]

So is this a bit like a structured version of Hagio then Silver? I would play... but I'll be honest and say that I have enough trouble keeping up with the other forumgame I play. Still it does look interesting and I'll keep an eye on it from afar and see how it turns out.

By the way a game similar to this that I've been participating in for a long long while has a decent system set up that you could nick a few ideas from if you want, if you're interested drop me a PM and I'll send you a link.

[Csargo]

Dang still need another person.

[Csargo]

:bump:

Fatmids anybody?:juggle2:

[Ignoramus]

Don't worry, they'll come. In fact, I'll post this in the Entrance Hall.

[Csargo]

Good idea.

[Silver Rusher]

Note to players: All of you must create a faction thread using the guidelines in the major factions/minor factions forum before the game can start (all the major factions at least, any other factions will not be allowed into the game if they haven't)

[UltraWar]

Hopefully someone comes and joins as the Fatmids...

[Monarch]

Ye we need the fatimids.


Not that I'm only posting to bump this thread or anything :P

[Csargo]

There's gotta be someone out there that wants to play as the Fatmids.

[Csargo]

Please somebody

[Byzantine Mercenary]

hmm are there any egyption orgahs that might be interested?

well if no one turns up soon maybe a mod could play as them untill more people get interested?

[Ignoramus]

Come on people! We need you.

[Orb]

*resists temptation to go for Apulia Calabriaque.* :(
Well, since I'd like to join, and be helpful, then I'll take the Fatimids...

I know absolutely nothing about them, but have too much spare time...
Therefore :book:

Edit - and how much can I learn from an MTW Egyptian early campaign?

Be warned, I may do ignorant things...

[Keba]

Edit - and how much can I learn from an MTW Egyptian early campaign?
Be warned, I may do ignorant things...

A fair bit ... although I'd recommend Wiki, it's not perfect, but a useful source, and you only need to know some of the general information about the Fatimids and their ruler around 1100. Afterward, it is as things go and likely to be completely different.

And as far ignorance goes ... everyone is ingorant until he plays for the first time ... and I confess this would be my first time as well.

[Csargo]

And as far ignorance goes ... everyone is ingorant until he plays for the first time ... and I confess this would be my first time as well.

Also Mine

[naut]

Yeh Orb, :2thumbsup:.

Is that everyone then??? (Plus those who join later)

[Trajanus]

Hi I am interested in joining. I would like to play as the minor faction Aragon if possible.

[Lord Winter]

Hi I am interested in joining. I would like to play as the minor faction Aragon if possible.
Aragon is open, post here to sign up http://z14.invisionfree.com/12th_Century_Glory/index.php?showtopic=13

[yesdachi]

I am not going to have time to read thru all the action on the game forum, will anyone be recapping the major events for us non-players who are still interested to see how the game progresses. You could consider me a wealthy land owner who is curious of the events that transpire. Or I could be one of the unwashed masses who gather at the pub down near the port listening for news from abroad. :knight:

[Conqueror]

The game hasn't even truly started yet (launches this week's Saturday) but we've already gone wild with Diplomacy. England and France denounced the Pope and support their own (anti)pope. War is brewing...

[yesdachi]

The game hasn't even truly started yet (launches this week's Saturday) but we've already gone wild with Diplomacy. England and France denounced the Pope and support their own (anti)pope. War is brewing...
I did notice there is over a hundred posts in the diplomacy thread!
And speaking of brewing... :barrel: :medievalcheers: let the party begin!

[Csargo]

Nice to see there are so many people interested in the game.

[Ignoramus]

England and France denounced the Pope and support their own (anti)pope. War is brewing...

Support Clement III!

Seriously, we have the advantage. Flanders, Burgundy, and Denmark have joined us.

[Silver Rusher]

Heh, there is already a Clement III around at this time.

Trajanus, I would suggest joining as Barcelona rather than Aragon. They are both in the same area at this time but Barcelona is much stronger.

[Divine Wind]

Edit: Im a bit pushed for time at the moment.

Whoops!

[Reverend Joe]

I hate to interject here, but I have been reading a little of the RPG forum; and the Roman pope has declared that all those who follow the Clermont pope will be excommunicated. Since I am not in the game, I will post this here for reference:

To excommunicate large groups of people is actually a misnomer. The correct term for this is Interdict; as in, the pope has placed a Papal interdict on all the lands who follow the "false" pope. Excommunication is always targeted against a specific individual; entire groups of people are always "placed under interdict." A more detail description can bne found via Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdict_%28Roman_Catholic_Church%29)

Sorry for nerding up the thread, but this stuff just sticks with me for some reason.

[Justiciar]

I'd quite like to play as Denmark, if it isn't taken.

Ah, scratch that.. I just found your forums. Is it at all possible for me to join, perhaps as a minor faction?

[scotchedpommes]

I'd quite like to play as Denmark, if it isn't taken.

Ah, scratch that.. I just found your forums. Is it at all possible for me to join, perhaps as a minor faction?

I don't see why it shouldn't be. The game proper is due to start at some point
over the weekend or the beginning of the week. Regardless of start time, if you
post in the game introduction thread the moderators should include you.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I hate to interject here, but I have been reading a little of the RPG forum; and the Roman pope has declared that all those who follow the Clermont pope will be excommunicated. Since I am not in the game, I will post this here for reference:

To excommunicate large groups of people is actually a misnomer. The correct term for this is Interdict; as in, the pope has placed a Papal interdict on all the lands who follow the "false" pope. Excommunication is always targeted against a specific individual; entire groups of people are always "placed under interdict." A more detail description can bne found via Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdict_%28Roman_Catholic_Church%29)

Sorry for nerding up the thread, but this stuff just sticks with me for some reason.

Yeah, I realized it after I posted that, but was just too lazy to change it.

Besides, "placed under interdict" just doesn't have the same ring as "excommunicated!" :evil:

[Trajanus]

Having problems connecting to the invision forum. Have been trying for about an hour and no luck. Is there anything wrong or just my connection?

[Csargo]

Are you trying to get to http://z14.invisionfree.com/12th_Century_Glory/index.php?act=idx it should work

[Trajanus]

I am but I think there is a server down along the line somewhere. It was working fine yesterday. I will keep trying.

Minor faction of Aragon/Navarre is underway and Valencia also.

[aw89]

Is it too late to join as norway?

[Csargo]

Check on the link I posted and post in the Introductory thread the game has already started but I think you can join after we start as a minor faction.

[Orb]

Part-bump, part-request

Monarch, Bombasticus, can you confirm your presence or lack thereof?

Since you both control very important factions, we are going to need replacements if you aren't here.