Tristrem
08-09-2006, 02:11
hi guys , i've been playing for quite a while, but a sort of noobish question to ask. I enjoy playing eastern european factions, like poland and hungary, and wonder in which mod they get the most love, especially poland. i want to start a new campain, but vanilla is just isn't a challenge to me anymore
thanks
Well I know that XL Mod adds a couple of more factions in Baltic and Russia.
cegorach
08-09-2006, 07:07
Pike and Musket - the total conversion mod placed between 1480 and 1700
Unit lists for some eastern factions:
SWEDEN
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general - major faction (late) , centralised administration, absolute power,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - SEVERAL,
unique structures - Utskrivning->Indelningsverket->Nyare indelningsverket,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Dalkarlar
Landsryttare
Kungliga Majestäts Drabanter
Swedish Militia
Saamelaiset heimosoturit (Finland)
--from 1572-> Hakkapeliitta (Finland)
--from 1572-> Pikenerare
--from 1572-> Musketerare
--from 1572-> Latta ryttare
--from 1572-> Kommanderade musketörer
--from 1572-> Dragoner
--from 1648-> Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente
--from 1648-> Grenadiers
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Svarta Ryttarna
Landsryttare
Kungliga Majestäts Drabanter
Djurskyttar
Hakkapeliitta (Finland)
Pikenerare
Musketerare
Latta ryttare
Dragoner
Kommanderade musketörer
--from 1648-> Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente
Arkebusiere
--from 1648-> Grenadiers
Courland Reiters (Estonia & Livonia)
Pikeniere
Musketiere
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Karolinska Ryttare
Karolinskt Infanteri - pikemen
Karolinskt Infanteri - line infantry
Karolinska Livgardet
Hiihto soturi (Finland)
Hakkapeliitta (Finland)
Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente
Pikenerare
Musketerare
Latta ryttare
Dragoner
Grenadiers
*unique* - access to german units during Religious Turmoil, can recruit skii troopers during the late campaign.
LIVONIAN CONFEDERACY ( ONLY AGE OF EXPLORATION)
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general - minor faction, german faction,
army - MERCENARY,
heroes - NONE,
unique structures - NONE,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Knights (B)
Livonian Lancers
Knechtsspissen
--from 1572-> Pikeniere
--from 1572-> Musketiere
*unique* - can call for National Levy which works like crusade.
HUNGARY
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general - minor faction, democracy,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - NONE,
unique structures - balcan stronghold, sych,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)
Huszárok
--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások
--from 1572-> Hrvati (Croatia)
--from 1572-> Vozy
--from 1572-> Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)
Wagon Infantry
Rac
--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
--from 1572-> Cossacks
--from 1572-> Zaporozhye
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Kék drabantok
Gyalogszékelyek
Huszárok
Hrvati (Croatia)
Haramija (Croatia, Serbia)
Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)
Wagon Infantry
--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
Lovas hajdúk
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Martolos (Greece)
Hajdú puskások
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Kék drabantok
Gyalogszékelyek
Hrvati (Croatia)
Pandur
Calarisi (Wallachia)
Rosiori (Wallachia)
Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
Boieri (Moldavia)
Huszárok
Lovas hajdúk
Martolos (Greece)
Hajdú puskások
*UNique* - has access to warwagons.
MOLDAVIA/WALLACHIA ( NO IN SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - FEW,
unique structures - Oastea Mica-> Oastea Mare; sych,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Boieri (B) (Carpathia, Moldavia)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Rac
Munteni
Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)
--from 1572-> Vozy
--from 1572-> Hrvati (Croatia)
--from 1572-> Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)
--from 1572-> Ukrainian Peasants
--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások
--from 1572-> Cossacks
--from 1572-> Zaporozhye
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Boieri (B) (Carpathia, Moldavia)
Gyalogszékelyek (Carpathia)
Dorobanti (Moldavia)
Vanatori (Wallachia)
Hrvati (Croatia)
Haramija (Croatia, Serbia)
Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)
Ukrainian Peasants
Dzhura
--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Martolos (Greece)
Hajdú puskások
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
POLAND
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general - major power, democracy,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - DOZENS,
unique structures - sejm, sejmik, Obrona potoczna i kwarciani->Reformy Batorego->Reformy Wladyslawa IV i Koniecpolskiego->Reformy Sobieskiego ;sych, vassal principality, german petty state(high), hadziacz union (late),
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Tatarzy
Strzelcy
--from 1572-> Piechota Wybraniecka
--from 1572-> Muszkieterzy
--from 1572-> Piechota Polska
--from 1572-> Pikinierzy
--from 1572-> Husaria
--from 1572-> Lisowczycy
--from 1572-> Petyhorcy
--from 1572-> Kozacy
--from 1572-> Dragoni
--from 1648-> Pancerni
--from 1648-> Wolosi
--from 1572-> Vozy
Wagon Infantry
Rac
--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások
--from 1572-> Zaporozhye
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Tatarzy
Piechota Wybraniecka
Piechota Polska
Muszkieterzy
Pikinierzy
Lisowczycy
Husaria
Petyhorcy
Kozacy
Rajtarzy
Dragoni
--from 1648-> Pancerni
--from 1648-> Wolosi
Arkebusiere
Courland Reiters (Estonia & Livonia)
Wagon Infantry
Gyalogszékelyek (Carpathia)
Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Hajdú puskások
Zaporozhye
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Tatarzy
Gwardia Piesza - musketeers
Gwardia Piesza - pikemen
Muszkieterzy - different than in earlier periods
Pikinierzy - different than in earlier periods
Piechota Polska
Husaria
Litewska Husaria
Petyhorcy - different than in earlier campaigns
Kozacy
Pancerni
Wolosi
Dragoni
Rajtarzy - different than in earlier campaigns
Fuisilliers
Rosiori (Wallachia)
Czeremisi (Volhynia & Volga-Bulgaria)
Dzhura
Hajdú puskások
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
*unique* - one of the most diverse armies in the game, can call for National Levy which works like crusade, has access to warwagons, can use unique fake unit specially designed for multiplayer.
THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE
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general - superpower (major power in early),
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - SEVERAL,
unique structures - vassal principality,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Akinji --> to 1648
Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)
Ashaghi Bölüks
Kirmizi Bayrak
Deli
Sari Bayrak
Jebelü
Timarli Sipahi
Iyalaras
Okchu Yenicheri
Zirhli Nefer
Voynuk
--from 1572-> Vozy
--from 1572-> Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)
--from 1572-> Tüfekchi
Tüfekchi Yenicheri
Sekbans
Levends
Ashirs
--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások
--from 1572-> Cossacks
--from 1572-> Zaporozhye
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Akinji --> to 1648
Ashaghi Bölüks
Kirmizi Bayrak
Deli
Sari Bayrak
Jebelü
Timarli Sipahi
Zirhli Nefer
Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)
Tüfekchi Yenicheri
Tüfekchi
Ashirs
--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Mamluk Cavalry
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Martolos (Greece)
Hajdú puskások
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Ashaghi Bölüks
Kirmizi Bayrak
Deli
Sari Bayrak
Jebelü
Timarli Sipahi
Zirhli Nefer
Sarica
Debrebentcis
Eflaks
Jarakisa ( Khazar)
Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)
Tüfekchi Yenicheri
Tüfekchi
Rosiori (Wallachia)
Ashirs
Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)
Mamluk Cavalry
Martolos (Greece)
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
*unique* - the biggest faction in the later part of the game. Huge armies of cavalry and infantry.
Timarli Sipahi weaker in the last campaign, Janissaries and Kirmizi Bayrak better than before.
CRIMEAN KHANATE
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general - minor faction,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - FEW,
unique structures - NONE,
units:
THE AGE OF EXPLORATION
Kirim Suvari (B)
Atli Tatarlar
Tatar Arkans
Izci Tatarlar
Kipchak Asker
--from 1572-> Keffe Bekci
Nogay Asker
--from 1572-> Vozy
--from 1572-> Ukrainian Peasants
--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Ashirs
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások
--from 1572-> Cossacks
--from 1572-> Zaporozhye
THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL
Kirim Suvari (B)
Atli Tatarlar
Tatar Arkans
Izci Tatarlar
Kipchak Asker
Keffe Bekci
Nogay Asker
Ukrainian Peasants
Dzhura
Ashirs
Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)
Curteni (Wallachia)
Strajeri (Moldavia)
Razesi (Moldavia)
Hajdú puskások
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Kirim Suvari (B)
Atli Tatarlar
Tatar Arkans
Izci Tatarlar
Kipchak Asker
Keffe Bekci
Nogay Asker
Segmen
Jarakisa ( Khazar)
Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)
Ukrainian Peasants
Ashirs
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
*Unique* - army consists almost only of numerous cavalry, have cavalry which can hide in the open.
COSSACKS (ONLY DURING SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - FEW,
unique structures - cossack camp, sych,
units:
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Cossacks
Zaporozhye
Molodyki
Plastuny
Harakterniki
Storozha
Serdjuk
Vozy z poshkhamy
Ukrainian Peasants
Dzhura (B)
*unique* - can recruit large armies, have access to warwagons, have cavalry which can hide in the open, Harakterniki are almost superhuman in melee, but can be shot to pieces.
CIRCASSIA (ONLY DURING SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,
army - NATIONAL,
heroes - FEW,
unique structures - sych,
units:
THE SUN KING'S AMBITION
Adiga Dzhigit (B)
Lhxwqwel Zevako
Tiley
Abrek Dzhigit
Werq Dzhigit
Czeremisi (Volhynia & Volga-Bulgaria)
Zaporozhye
*unique* - Tiley is in essence a suicidal, sacrificial unit - generally one-shot weapon, one-two should be used per army, only.
Units have new animations, so don't worry.:book:
Deus ret.
08-09-2006, 11:16
If you want to stay in the Medieval timeframe, I'd recommend the MedMod. It contains interesting concepts also present in Pike&Musket (homeland/recruiting zones) and grants a nice, overhauled units roster to most factions, especially to Poland in late. The only downside is that you can't start in high with this mod but well.....
have fun!
Tristrem
08-10-2006, 02:06
thanks guys i will try to pike and musket mod, and lets all cross our fingers and hope that mtw2 will give some love to wastern european factions
The XL mod adds alot of new factions such as the Lithuanians, Armenians, Bulgarians, Serbians, Volga Bulgars and the Cumans, without changing the time period or too much of the gameplay. May be worth a try before progressing to a more total conversion.
cegorach
08-10-2006, 13:52
When it comes to Poland - no MTW mod can compete with Pike and Musket:balloon2: :balloon2:
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