Mafia III: Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

[Peasant Phill]

Divine Wind. I don't have a lot of time and my favorite (panno and something) got killed, so I vote against the one with the most votes.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, Crazed Rabbit certainly believes in Lemur quite strongly.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Look at the last post of the previous page, and Lemur's behavior in game 2 when confronted with pictographical evidence of his guilt. See any difference?

Crazed Rabbit

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Look at the last post of the previous page, and Lemur's behavior in game 2 when confronted with pictographical evidence of his guilt. See any difference?

Crazed Rabbit

Yeah. No one believed him in game 2, this game he acts completely differently. Big surprise.

[Silver Rusher]

Look at the last post of the previous page, and Lemur's behavior in game 2 when confronted with pictographical evidence of his guilt. See any difference?

Crazed Rabbit
As I said before, it is obvious to change your behavior if you are going to be in the mafia more than once.


Yeah. No one believed him in game 2, this game he acts completely differently. Big surprise.
Exactly.

[Reenk Roink]

Heck no. You villagers want me dead? You're just dying to, uh, see me die? Then you can darn well pony up and spend your vote. Besides, after I'm dead, and the village has won, you can soap each others' beards and slap each others' backs in a hearty, manly way, and congratulate yourselves on being a bunch of geniuses.

I'm getting tired of this whining and tantrum Lemur...

Cease and desist, or earn a place on my list!

:beadyeyes2: - Reenkazoid angry

:deal: - Updated list

:hanged:


Cease and desist, or earn a place on my list!

:laugh4: That rhymes! :laugh4:

[Lemur]

I'm getting tired of this whining and tantrum Lemur...
What do I care? If I speculate on the identity of the mafia, then I must be guilty. If I comment on the tactics of the mafia, I must be guilty. If I say I'm innocent, I must be guilty. If I come up with good reasons, I'm even more guilty. If I come up with bad reasons, I must be guilty. If I say I'm not the mafia, I must be guilty. If I say I am the mafia, I must be guilty. If I insult the current mafia, I must be guilty. If I lurk, I must be guilty.

Add me to whatever lists you please. I'll only be afraid when Stephen Colbert puts me on notice.

[Reenk Roink]

You're going to die this round anyway, so it's sort of redundant to put you on the List, but I'll shame you anyway... :laugh4:

[Silver Rusher]

You're going to die this round anyway, so it's sort of redundant to put you on the List, but I'll shame you anyway... :laugh4:
Actually, Divine Wind will die this round.

[Lemur]

You mean to say I'm losing the vote, after declaring myself guilty and voting for myself? Wow, the law of unintended consequences and comic comeuppance are powerful in Mafia 3 ...

[Reenk Roink]

No it looks like Lemur has one or two votes on top of Divine Wind, (hard to count though, Gah!)...

If all else fails, I can change my vote to Lemur...

I would also like to issue an apology to Crazed Rabbit. I voted against him, though he was not on the list. I was young then... :shame:

Edit: Wait!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yes, Divine Wind will die this round.

Voting is over, stand by while I post the execution.

EDIT: WAITAMINUTE! Reenk, are you voting for Lemur or DW?

...

Mafia replaced an Abokasee quote in Reenk's signature? Whoa...

[Silver Rusher]

1. DW it seems.

2. It doesn't matter; DW's got it either way.

3. Come to the chat.

[Reenk Roink]

I have just tallied up the confusing votes myself:

Lemur - 6
Divine Wind - 6
AggonyDuck - 1 (my original vote)
Stormcrow - 1
Hiji - 1
SSNeoperestroika (your name is difficult) - 1

Now, because of the tiebreak, I will change my vote of spite on AggonyDuck to Lemur (you're a lucky duck)...

Updated votes:

Lemur - 7
Divine Wind - 6
Stormcrow - 1
Hiji - 1
SSNeoperestroika (your name is difficult) - 1

I suggest execution by Swedish Cocktail...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Gah, hold on. I just realized he originally voted for AggonyDuck so it doesn't matter.

Once again, stand by for the execution.

---Edit: Hold on. This is getting too confusing. I'm going to tally the votes again myself and then come back. Watch this post.

---Update: Votes have been retallied. The execution will be in a different post. In the tally I will post the names of the people who voted for each person too.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I think it is 6-5 for Divine Wind ahead of Lemur, because AggonyDuck changed his vote.

Crazed Rabbit

[Silver Rusher]

nm.

[AggonyDuck]

Yup, it's definately confusing. I did switch my vote for Divine Wind though, but I'm fine if Lemur gets killed instead. He's really asking for it at the moment. Anyways do as you see fit.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Chief of Police Beirut had had a hectic day. First there was the matter of the dead; Pannonian and Ice. Then there was hoping that God/General Hankerchief wouldn't strike down any more of his people. Finally, there was the voting tally, with everyone arguing and people changing their votes.

Finally, after about a million recounts, there was a result. Divine Wind, 6 to 5 over Lemur. Strangely, both looked disappointed when the result was read aloud.

DW, once brought up to the platform, started screaming about the Snowman of Death.

"The Snowman of Death shall have his revenge! He will put this place in eternal winter and then will resurrect me, his most loyal servant, from the dead! And we shall dance on your frozen corpses forever! We shall rule the world!"

Beirut smiled. "Oh yeah, about that Snowman of Death. BKS has several hairdryers and stage lights set up. He's getting his as we speak."

...

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

Divine Wind looked thorougly defeated as he was dropped to the hungry crocodiles below. His plans for world domination had been thwarted.

Here is the voting total for Session 6. This is accurate, go back and check.

Divine Wind: 6 (Crazed Rabbit, EMFM, AggonyDuck, Kommodus, Cowhead, Peasant Phill) :skull:
Lemur: 5 (Drisos, Wonderland, Reenk Roink, Lemur, Divine Wind)
Hiji: 1
SSNeoperestroika: 1

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Reenk Roink
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Drisos
Peasant Phill
Gertgregoor
Cowhead418
Wonderland
Hiji
Alexander the Pretty Good

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind

[Lemur]

The law of unintended consequences is strong today.

[Reenk Roink]

~:) ~:snowman: ~:santa: ~D ~:handball: ~:joker: ~:grouphug: ~:wacko: ~:pat: ~:flirt: :cheerleader: :hippie: :elephant: :flowers: :helloo: :shakehands:

4 lemru! :balloon2:

[Divine Wind]

~:snowman:

Whispers from the dead Snowmen...oh you silly fools, if i was a Mafioso dont you think i would have tried to defend myself a little more? Learn from this and find the real Mafioso.

[Drisos]

I knew you were innocent... Lemur is guilty!!:rtwno:

[AggonyDuck]

I've went through all of the murders looking for clues and trying puzzle together somekind of image of how many mafioso's are left and what they're currently trying to do.

There are two mafioso's left; one I've nicknamed the Airplane-mafioso and the other I call the Arrivederci/Falx-mafioso.

Airplane-mafioso is responsible for the murders of:

1. Sigurd Fafnesbane (he doesn't start with his story here yet)
2. UltraWar (makes Ultra give him 10k to bribe Tiberius with)
3. Tiberius (after having him steal the explosively pumped flux compression generator for him)
4. Sasaki Kojiro (forced him to give out a top secret code for something, prolly the flux compression generator)
5. Orb (the airplane is loaded with the EPFCG)
6. Ice (after finding out of the Airplane crashing is killed after coming up with the grand plan of this mafioso)

This mafioso seems to be extremely creative and innovative. A real storyteller. Also he seems to actually know what an explosively pumped flux compression generator is. These three things tell a lot already.

I'd reckon this could be Lemur. It atleast adds up to how I view the fella. But to be honest this mafioso might be the harder one to catch.

Arrivederci/Falx-mafioso is responsible for the murders of:

1. discovery1 (first time we hear the Arrivederci)
2. Zalmoxis (killed with a falx, killers makes reference about Zalmoxis being a deity of the Dacians and even shows knowledge about his theology, which can be acquired for example from EB)
3. Silver Rusher

Here Spartan claims he is guilty and a change emerges in this mafioso to take advantage of it.

4. B-Ray (no arrivederci)
5. Divinus Arma (again no arrivederci)

But by now most of you have argued that Spartan was deceiving us and take a look at what happens next.

6. Pannonian (killed by Rhompaia, references to Zalmoxis and the Arrivederci re-emerges)

This mafioso is knowledgeable in ancient history. Most likely he is assisted by EB, so I deciced to chech the recent posts and three of us are active in the EB subforum;

Reenk Roink, Wonderland and Gertgregoor. Of these two I'd guess that either Reenk or Wonderland is the Arrivederci guy.

[Ignoramus]

I can tell you plainly. I am the mafia. You thought I was just an innocent hard working villager, think again.

Just kidding. Or am I? ~;p

[The Stranger]

off topic post maybe... but when the next mafia starts, would someone please notify me.

[Cowhead418]

Bandwagoning: When you vote for someone purely because they have already received votes. Used by the mafia in Game II, but is now apt to get you executed.
I digress. I did not bandwagon in Game II. Sure, I did do it for the rare vote, but it was by no means an every-round thing. I made sure to vote someone completely random most rounds, and none of the people I voted for died by my hand later. This is why I don't understand how Kommodus's voting index pointed to me. The only reason I can think of is that Lemur killed off some of the people I voted in later rounds.

[Reenk Roink]

This mafioso is knowledgeable in ancient history. Most likely he is assisted by EB, so I deciced to chech the recent posts and three of us are active in the EB subforum;

Reenk Roink, Wonderland and Gertgregoor. Of these two I'd guess that either Reenk or Wonderland is the Arrivederci guy.

You know, this isn't the way to make me "forget" you are on the List...

Execute AggonyDuck! :hanged:

[Kommodus]

I made sure to vote someone completely random most rounds, and none of the people I voted for died by my hand later. This is why I don't understand how Kommodus's voting index pointed to me. The only reason I can think of is that Lemur killed off some of the people I voted in later rounds.

Well, keep in mind that there are more ways for a person to be proven innocent than to be killed by the mafia. Sometimes it's the way an execution is worded. Other times, if I'm nearly certain that someone is innocent for whatever reason, I'll feed that information into the spreadsheet. In this game, a bunch of people were proven innocent by GH's "Wrath of God" event. So there's sometimes a bit of subjective information that goes into the analysis, but I try to keep that to a minimum.

[AggonyDuck]

You know, this isn't the way to make me "forget" you are on the List...

Execute AggonyDuck! :hanged:

Well your list is definately a great way to negate the effects of vote indexing. :inquisitive:

[Drisos]

hmmm.. I'm now starting to doubt between wonderland, reenk roink and lemur.

let's eliminate all of them, just to be sure. :yes::balloon2: :2thumbsup:

[Dooz]

Well, it's become abundantly clear to me who at least one member of the mafia definately is. Nothing against you Reenky, I like you, but in the interest of the game, I gotta say I think you're the guy. All throughout the game, you're votes had nothing to do with actualy trying to get the mafia, they were mostly arbitrary, or just for the same guy out of "spite". Interesting mafia tactic. Even your sig, !The List! It's more deadly than the Mafia...

Quite suspicious, and ironic since you are the mafia. I didn't want to speak out before the next murders so I don't get the axe for knowing, but maybe this way everyone'll see and vote and villagers will at least win. I'm not quite sure why I'm on the suspected list, but if I can hold out longer than Reenk, I think we'll have a chance. I also still think Lemur has a good chance of being the other mafia member, but I'm more certain about the Roinkster. Well, I await my death, one way or another.

[Drisos]

btw... I still think The Spartan was not lying. As the murders placed after his death were all placed on people that were actively searching for clues and posting their findings in this thread. If this would continue, AggonyDuck would be next, and perhaps myself too.

[Moros]

I think there are two left. I mean there's a significant difference in style between the two. Tough ofcourse if there's only one left he might try to do that, if he did he did an awesome job. He also made that reference to a previous murder. Perhaps that might make it more obvious, tough I really doubt it. I'm quite certain there are two left.

Who? Well one of them surely is a good writer. Is there someone who frequents the meadhall in the list? The other one isn't that much of a story teller. He does know a bit of history tough, or he does research on the names. As I posted after the death of Zalmoxis, you can easily find a lot of info about it. I even found that second weapon rhomposomthing after searching for tracian weapons. So he might just like google.

I can't really detect somthing else tough.

[Dutch_guy]

Who? Well one of them surely is a good writer. Is there someone who frequents the meadhall in the list? The other one isn't that much of a story teller. He does know a bit of history tough, or he does research on the names. As I posted after the death of Zalmoxis, you can easily find a lot of info about it. I even found that second weapon rhomposomthing after searching for tracian weapons. So he might just like google.

.

But then again I doubt you'd need google to know exactly what that rhomposomthing is do you ? I mean, being an EB member I doubt you'd lack the historic knowledge.

:balloon2:

[Silver Rusher]

Excellent analysis, AggonyDuck. To add to this, my ice cream/arrivederci carving murder wasn't the one originally intended, and GH says that it was going to be something far-fetched. Also, he told me in the chat that if I knew what it was I could figure something out from it. Perhaps the originally intended murder was another historical weapon thing?

BTW I think that this guy isn't on the EB team, but knows about ancient historical weaponry anyway. For this reason I have taken the liberty of searching the Monastery with the names of all members. Here are some results: (examples are simply posts which show an enthusiasm for ancient/classical history)

Reenk Roink: 40 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1179054#post1179054, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1178542#post1178542, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1160818#post1160818, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1134868#post1134868)
A lot of posts, and he seems very interested in classical greek history. Reenk Roink is definitely my prime suspect, it would be safe to eliminate him next round.

Crazed Rabbit: 8 posts
None of these are related to classical history. If Crazed Rabbit is a mafia he isn't this one.

SSNeperestroika: No matches
Highly doubt he is the arrivederci man.

AggonyDuck: 100 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1109508#post1109508)
Out of these 100 posts I could find only 1 about classical history. Most are interactive histories set in the 20th century. I highly doubt he is Mr. Arrivederci.

EEFM: 80 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=929970#post929970, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=822046#post822046)
Nearly all of his top 5 generals are Germans, the earliest being Otto the Great. Also, in the last link he says nothing about Classical History in his favourite historical periods. Doubtful that he is the arrivederci mafioso.

Lemur: 19 results (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1017166#post1017166, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1016586#post1016586, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=608444#post608444)
I still think he's the other mafioso, but I doubt very much that he is the arrivederci man.

Kommodus: 62 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1135472#post1135472, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=965445#post965445, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=585883#post585883)
Mostly interactive histories. If he is in the mafia he isn't the arrivederci mafioso.

Drisos: 6 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=822354#post822354, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=713611#post713611)
A post about the teutonic army, but otherwise not much to go on. I doubt he is the arrivederci mafioso.

Peasant Phill: 33 posts (examples: none)
Nothing whatsoever about classical history here.

Gertgregoor: 3 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=922115#post922115)
Nope.

Cowhead418: No matches
Nope.

Wonderland: 4 posts (examples: none)
Nope.

Hiji: 31 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=461683#post461683)
I don't think so.

Alexander the Pretty Good
I won't even bother with him, he isn't active at all. Maybe he should be killed off by wrath of God, and if not, definitely should be lynched.

Divine Wind: 20 posts (examples: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=381688#post381688)
Lol, 7 of these posts are exactly the same. If he was in the mafia, he wasn't the arrivederci man.

It's Reenk Roink. Lynch him now.

EDIT: I also think Kommodus is in the mafia now. Just look at this.


I vote Reenk Roink.


I vote Pannonian, because he voted me!

Get him Mr. Po-Po! :bobby2:

(I overlook Kommodus's transgression because he is from Michigan)
Kommodus voted for Reenk Roink in the first round. The only other person to vote for Reenk Roink at all in the first few rounds was Pannonian, and he was later killed by the mafia. It has been well established that you can prove someone innocent according to who they voted for and when. In fact, it is Kommodus who was responsible for providing the voting record back-up to Tiberius in the last game, so he has a lot of experience in this area. If I were in the mafia I would definitely vote for my partner in the early stages of the game.

I abandon my case against Lemur but I still think he is taking this game waaay too seriously.

[Kommodus]

EDIT: I also think Kommodus is in the mafia now. Just look at this.

Kommodus voted for Reenk Roink in the first round. The only other person to vote for Reenk Roink at all in the first few rounds was Pannonian, and he was later killed by the mafia. It has been well established that you can prove someone innocent according to who they voted for and when. In fact, it is Kommodus who was responsible for providing the voting record back-up to Tiberius in the last game, so he has a lot of experience in this area. If I were in the mafia I would definitely vote for my partner in the early stages of the game.

Actually, my vote for Reenk Roink was entirely random, just like most early-game votes. If I were in the mafia and voting for my partner, I'd probably wait until a bandwagon had formed for someone else - otherwise it'd be rather dangerous, as it risks inadvertantly starting a bandwagon. In this case I didn't do that; my vote was one of the early ones, and no one was in the lead yet (no votes had yet been cast for Banquo's Ghost).

[Drisos]

Thanks a lot, silver rusher!! :2thumbsup: now that must've cost you quite some time, and it's quite useful!

My suspect list now consists of RR,Lemur,GG,SSN and Kommodus.. problem is that not more then 2 of them can be among the mafia... well if those would all be eliminated I think the mafia would be no more.. however there's too few executions left for that. we need to make good choices/guesses to survive, people.

why actually, besides the different murder-style, do people think The Spartan lied? if he'd be among the mafia, it's understandable that he didn't think of the consequences for his mafia-m8. however, if he wasn't, he is making the game much harder to win for his fellow villagers.. and this is a game.. so I assume any villager would try to have 'his side' win?!.. hmmm

[AggonyDuck]

BTW I think that this guy isn't on the EB team, but knows about ancient historical weaponry anyway. For this reason I have taken the liberty of searching the Monastery with the names of all members. Here are some results: (examples are simply posts which show an enthusiasm for ancient/classical history)


Well to me the thing that guided me to EB wasn't the weaponry, but the reference of Zalmoxis being the Dacian god. The killer even makes a reference to the belief of the soul being immortal, which is a crucial part in the Dacian religion.


"Interesting name, Zalmoxis," the mafioso said. "Surely named after the Thracian deity. And about to be killed with a Thracian weapon." Zal gulped, that falx looked menacing. "Now, we'll see whether the soul is immortal or not."

The mafioso slashed away, leaving Zalmoxis a mess on the floor. Before he passed, he saw his killer light up a cigarette and say "arrivederci."


This information can be found elsewhere, but before it the name Zalmoxis needs to ring a bell. I don't think knowledge about ancient Dacian religion is that widespread on this forums and I'm guessing EB is a good source for this.

[Silver Rusher]

Well, then I think we can be almost certain that Reenk Roink is in the mafia in that case (EDIT: Unless it is AggonyDuck but I somehow doubt this). Good work everyone.

EDIT: I made that list because I figured someone with this much knowledge would probably frequent the monastery, especially the threads about the classical world. Maybe it would help to do the same thing in the EB forum but somebody else will have to do it. By God I really can't be bothered to do something like that again.

And finally, you're welcome, Drisos.

[Peasant Phill]

Silver Rusher, you have to much time on your hands. However, the effort is much appreciated.

This is really the most interresting maffia game so far. (partly because I'm still alive).

[Reenk Roink]

So far, although there have been no new kills, people who have listed my name for suspicion/lynching are: Lemur (though he later edited the post), AggonyDuck, Drisos, Wonderland, and Silver Rusher.

Now to the Reenkizzle's easiest job of the day; updating the List:

:stupido:

AggonyDuck and Lemur already are mainstays

Drisos welcome aboard

Wonderland you're pardoned due to the convivial nature of your post

Silver Rusher your investigating has got you a place on the List as well

:deal:

By the way Silver Rusher, yes, I am a student of history, especially Greek and Roman history (though military history is what I'm interested in; after all, who wants to read on culture?).

Some books that might interest you (I can personally vouch for them) are:

Roman Military Equipment from the Punic Wars to the Fall of Rome (http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/42224)

Arms and Armour of the Greeks (http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/3696)

By the way, shall you ever need reviews of any books, ignore the Amazon ones, (some are good, but most are not) and go to the Bryn Mawr Classical Review (http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/archive.html).

As for Gertgregoor's comment on Dacian Religion, it really isn't too hard to get a cursory understanding of it from Encyclopedia Mythica (http://www.pantheon.org/).

[Silver Rusher]

As for Gertgregoor's comment on Dacian Religion, it really isn't too hard to get a cursory understanding of it from Encyclopedia Mythica (http://www.pantheon.org/).
Which makes it easy for you, a student of history, to learn enough about Dacian culture to make your kill.

And I'm not sure anyone really cares whether or not they are on your 'list'.

Btw, thanks for your book recommendations, I will have a look at them later. I never trust Amazon reviews anyway - why read a user review there when there are so many classical ones out on the net?

[Dutch_guy]

To be fair Reenk, that list can have the exact opposite effect you'd want it to have.

You can only vote once a session for each guy on the list, they can ,however, throw 1 vote each,at you a session. A few others (and the mafia probably as well) 'll be glad to hop on the bandwagon, getting you lynched by a landslide of votes.

:balloon2:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Also, silver rusher is already dead.

[B-Wing]

Silver Rusher, I'm extremely impressed that you would put so much time and effort into searching for clues and evidence even after you've already died. Thank you. You're a real team player and I respect you for that. :2thumbsup:

Anyway, I was pondering the increasingly likely possibility that The Spartan was a worthless, darnable liar, and I reread this post, his original "confession":

fine kill me! looks like my first run as mafia didnt go so well. well this is the end for the mafia, ill just tell you who i killed:...

Even if he was being truthful, he for some reason pointlessly lied about the number of mafia left by claiming to be the last one (as I interpret the bolded portion). And if he was at all interested in his supposed own team (the mafia) winning, it doesn't make sense to reveal which kills were your doing, because that should make it easier to determine the identity of the other killer. Unless he lied about who he killed. But I don't think The Spartan was that clever, because a clever mafioso would not have revealed his identity in the first place.

Anyway, this game has gotten extremely interesting. I've got more suspects now than I did when I was alive. The mafia have done well in playing off other people's suspicions. They did kill at least one person (Orb) whom suspicion was already on, which I don't understand, but they've overall done very well so far. I even take back what I said about Lemur being a bad mafia if he was one; voting for himself was quite effective at removing suspicion, regardless of his innocence. If he's not mafia, he's a terrible villager, but that's another matter.

[Orb]

I think the Spartan was being sarcastic, and people happened to take it seriously.

[Silver Rusher]

I even take back what I said about Lemur being a bad mafia if he was one; voting for himself was quite effective at removing suspicion, regardless of his innocence. If he's not mafia, he's a terrible villager, but that's another matter.
My thoughts exactly.


Silver Rusher, I'm extremely impressed that you would put so much time and effort into searching for clues and evidence even after you've already died. Thank you. You're a real team player and I respect you for that. :2thumbsup:
Aww... shucks. Things like Kommodus' spreadsheet take much more effort than that.

Alive or dead, though, I still want to see the mafia hang just so I can read another one of GH's brilliant summaries. And I will do anything I can so that that will happen.

[Drisos]

I think the Spartan was being sarcastic, and people happened to take it seriously.

How about you? You claimed to be the detective and Lemur was the remaining mafioso... no one took it serious. so I guess it wasn't?

however.. it costed you your life..:embarassed:

**

indeed, being on RR's list doesn't make me worry a lot.. it does make me worry more that there are few villagers left and I might be assasinated at any time..:help: we would need extra executions or so just to whipe out all of the possible mafia members.:2thumbsup:

:balloon2:

[Reenk Roink]

You underestimate the List now... :wink:

I'm probably going to get the noose, so I will just tell you villagers this one happy tidbit:

I guarantee that somebody on my list will be killed in the upcoming round... :grin: :evil:

Oh, and "investigators", you were only half right... at most half right... :wink: :tongue3:

[Orb]

Actually, I had been warned by divine intervention that I was going to die...
I was inspired to go on one last rant to incriminate Lemur.

[Lemur]

I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it.

[scotchedpommes]

I guarantee that somebody on my list will be killed in the upcoming round...

That raises the question, how can you be so sure of this, unless you intend to
murder them yourself?

[Cowhead418]

That raises the question, how can you be so sure of this, unless you intend to
murder them yourself?This certainly raises suspicion, but remember that the mafia can murder someone on the list anyway in order to throw suspicion towards Reenk Roink. I fully expect them to do this (well maybe not now that I've talked about it).

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it.
That is just begging for a lynching.

[scotchedpommes]

This certainly raises suspicion, but remember that the mafia can murder someone on the list anyway in order to throw suspicion towards Reenk Roink. I fully expect them to do this (well maybe not now that I've talked about it).

Of course I had this in mind as a possibility, but still felt such a comment ought
to be highlighted.

[Drisos]

I'm still in doubt... lynch Lemur, or Reenk Roink.

hmmm...:book:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Early that morning, Drisos was strolling down a lonely street, headed nowhere in particular. Suddenly a black SUV with tinted windows screeched to a halt right beside him! The passenger door flew open, and out came two large men dressed in black. Drisos tried to flee, but the men seized him roughly. One of them covered his mouth while they dragged him into the SUV. As soon as he was inside, the vehicle accelerated rapidly while one of the men covered their captive’s head with a black hood.

Although he was blind and terrified, Drisos tried to judge where the vehicle was going. He felt when the roads changed from paved to gravel, and then to dirt. After traveling for at least an hour and making numerous turns, the vehicle came to a halt. Almost immediately, Drisos felt himself grabbed and hauled out of the car. He was dragged into a building, down a flight of stairs, and finally deposited, standing, in a room. His hood was yanked off, leaving him blinking in the white light.

Drisos found himself in a large room that looked like a laboratory. Computers, medical equipment, and other technological devices were everywhere. Before him stood a man in a white lab coat wearing latex gloves. Somehow Drisos knew that this was the mafioso.

The man quickly looked him over from top to bottom. “He’ll do,” he said quickly. “Secure him for testing.” Immediately the henchmen threw him onto a metal operating table and strapped him tightly to it. After a nod from the mafioso, they left.

“Let me go!” shouted Drisos, struggling. “What do you think you’re doing?”

“Try to relax,” said the mafioso, producing an empty syringe. “I just need a few samples. Hold still and this won’t hurt much.” Even so, Drisos cringed as the man inserted the syringe into his arm and began drawing blood.

After drawing several samples, the mafioso carefully placed his equipment aside. “Thank you,” he said. “I have what I need. Unfortunately for you, that means your usefulness is at an end.” He drew a new syringe filled with yellowish liquid and began to approach his victim.

“Wait!” screamed Drisos, trying to stall his captor. “Please, at least answer one question. Why? This is a small, peaceful town. What brought you here, and what do you have to gain by killing us off one by one?”

The mafioso sneered, suddenly angry. “You narcissistic, self-centered people! You think everything begins and ends with your pathetic town! This has nothing to do with you – it goes far beyond anything you tiny-minded people would ever imagine. Your town is only a stepping-stone.”

“Do you really want to know why I chose this town as my headquarters?” the mafioso continued contemptuously. “It’s because of your ridiculous criminal detection system! Seriously – justice by democracy?! Your so-called police chief has you all at each other’s throats, while my plan proceeds! You are all living proof of why my vision must be carried out!”

Drisos grew defensive. “At least we mind our own business and try to live our lives in peace,” he said. “How many lives have you destroyed? What kind of insane logic could you possibly use to justify that?”

The mafioso dismissed him with a contemptuous hand-wave. “Your way of life is for lesser people,” he said. “Great men, those with true vision, forge a new future for their entire race.” The mafioso abruptly leaned in closer and spoke more softly. “I am going to save humanity,” he said. “And I’ll kill every last person in this town if that’s what it takes!”

Abruptly the mafioso plunged the syringe into Drisos’ arm. Within a few moments, he was dead from a massive heart attack.

By the afternoon, everyone had heard that Drisos had mysteriously disappeared. Cowhead418, depressed, sat on a park bench trying to forget everything - the kills, the lynchings, the suspicion, the Wrath of God - all of it.

Suddenly his cell phone rang. Curses. He forgot he brought it with him. He checked who was calling, and sighed with relief. It was a number he knew. But in about two seconds, he wish he hadn't answered.

"Do you like to die?"

Cowhead, shocked, couldn't respond.

"No, huh? But wouldn't you want to die for a better world, a better place? Don't you feel disgusted when you look at most people? Their ignorance, their stupidity and their values? I know you do, well I'm the cure for this sick world. This world full of unworthy humans."

Cowhead finally got a word in. "Well, yes, sometimes we as a people are terrible but overall-"

"Shut up." The mafioso cut him off. "It was all rhetorical. Anyway, I'm calling you as a warning. Have you ever heard of Strychnos tieute? It's climbing shrub from Java and natives use it as an arrow poison. So... shouldn't you start to run?"

The mafioso's next line, "not that I ever miss," was heard by nobody. Cowhead had heeded advice. Not like it mattered. The mafioso said one final word to nobody in particular before hanging up:

"Arrivederci."

In the evening, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the rather small amount of villagers remaining in the town square.

"Gentlemen," he began, "once again we are gathered here to execute somebody. It is clear that the crocodiles didn't scare the mafia away, so we have some new additions to the pit. Everybody gather around."

Everyone made their way - cautiously - to the execution platform. They all gathered around the supposedly secret pit. Beirut pulled the lever, and they all gasped.

"The pit has now mostly been filled with water, and the crocodiles are gone, as you all can see. In their place we have sharks... with lazers on their backs."

Sharks with frickin' lazers! If this didn't scare away the mafia nothing would. The crowd applauded.

However, one of the beams accidentally went off, hitting Alexander the Pretty Good in the shoulder. He stumbled and fell right into the pit, where he was quickly devoured. Everyone instantly got off the platform.

Beirut shook his head. "What a tragedy. Guess these sharks mean business. I'm so glad we sprang for them and not the mutated sea bass. Anyway, I'm rambling. Get voting!!!"

[Silver Rusher]

What took you so long?

Anyway, Reenk Roink is horrifyingly guilty (not a vote). Easy to tell your partner to kill a specific person while you yourself kill somebody else. Either that or he's in the mafia but we messed up on which mafioso he actually was, but I think the former is most likely. Either way, lynch Reenk Roink.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Power went out for a while. Then I had to sleep.

Anyway, just to clarify, Alexander the Pretty Good is now dead. He was not in the mafia nor was he the Detective.

[Kommodus]

I'm voting for Reenk Roink because of his knowledge of ancient history and Thracian culture. In addition, his voting history doesn't look particularly good.

[Drisos]

I already thought I was going to be assilimated this round...

Brothers! Avenge me! Lynch Reenk Roink and Lemur now! I recognized them, though they were wearing masks...

I'm dead now... So I'll stay dead and stop posting in this thread...

Good luck, fellow villagers! Get them!

[Moros]

I don't know if it really was Reenk Roink, but for the sake of it. It's not I have some proof against someone and I guess I'll just trust the others judgement.

[AggonyDuck]

I'm going to vote for Reenk Roink. He is either mafia or a bad villager. Either way both are sufficient cause for me to vote for him.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I don't think it was Reenk Roink. His list is to obvious.

But I recall that Wonderland is part of EB and has historical knowledge.

I'm voting for Wonderland.

Crazed Rabbit

PS Great new execution method, GH!

[Silver Rusher]

I'm going to vote for Reenk Roink. He is either mafia or a bad villager. Either way both are sufficient cause for me to vote for him.
I think that's gonna become the perfect lynching excuse before too long.

OT: Other mafia has started everyone

[Reenk Roink]

*Hmm...next time be more inconspicuous...still, a long run, much longer than I had thought before :2thumbsup:*

By the way, I need to conclude some business before my execution:


indeed, being on RR's list doesn't make me worry a lot.. it does make me worry more that there are few villagers left and I might be assasinated at any time..:help: we would need extra executions or so just to whipe out all of the possible mafia members.:2thumbsup:

:balloon2:

You see Drisos, you were never really high on my List, but this comment changed all that. There was a reason that I described you as "blissfully unaware". :evil:


I'm voting for Reenk Roink because of his knowledge of ancient history and Thracian culture. In addition, his voting history doesn't look particularly good.

Kommodus, really now...

You were pardoned from the list with your only merit being native to Michigan. This second offense will not be tolerated. :veryangry:

List is also updated...

Give me an honorable death, or make it creative, as I made yours... :tongue3:

[scotchedpommes]

I will vote for Reenk Roink. Your comments betrayed you before now, and
although it is yet possible that the killings might well have been carried out in
order to place suspicion on you, I think you would be counting on this to allow
your survival.

[Moros]

Hey I'm on the list! ~:) Finally someone puts me in his sig!

...wait a minute!?

Hey, I do not follow the crowd. Is there anyone here with so much passion for pie as me over here? Someone which has such a bad idea of humour as me?

Poeh! I've got lots of pie, so I don't care what you're saying. WAit untill I tell my mummy.

...hmm I'm to right about the part I lack humour!..oh wait tha's a bad thing...i

~:doh:

[Dutch_guy]

OK, you villagers should really lynch Reenk and Gertgregoor.

Reenk because he's acting suspicious, he even seems to think so himself. And Gert, I think you've been put on Reenk's list to ''clear'' you from the other villagers.

I mean think about It, would a comment such as this ....


I don't know if it really was Reenk Roink, but for the sake of it. It's not I have some proof against someone and I guess I'll just trust the others judgement.


....get you on Reenk's list ? I think not, he didn't even have proof he (Reenk) did it. He was merely following the rest.

:balloon2:

[Silver Rusher]

AggonyDuck, we have given this frontroom a great victory.

[AggonyDuck]

I wouldn't get ahead of things yet mate. It is still unclear if Reenk Roink is a mafioso, although it is likely. Even then it is possible that he has a partner still around somewhere.

[Silver Rusher]

I wouldn't get ahead of things yet mate. It is still unclear if Reenk Roink is a mafioso, although it is likely. Even then it is possible that he has a partner still around somewhere.
When I say great victory I mean picking out Reenk Roink. And I think he is a mafioso. The battle is over but the war isn't, that kind of thing.

[Dooz]

I vote Reenk of course. I won't be present at the execution though... don't wan't to see a good man go.

[GeneralHankerchief]

One more vote and Reenk is automatically executed by majority.

[Reenk Roink]

One more vote and Reenk is automatically executed by majority.

I vote Reenk Roink! :2thumbsup:

I would like my execution soundtrack to be No Excuses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuOpFpGEx0) by Alice In Chains.

Or maybe Grind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKuOpFpGEx0)...

[Lemur]

I vote Reenk Roink as well. We people who vote for ourselves need to be supported. Also, there are some genuinely cogent arguments being made about his behavior.

[Craterus]

Having read through this thread, I think Lemur is in the mafia.

But it's not down to me, is it?

[Cowhead418]

:gah2: Ah well, I'm surprised I lasted this long. Killed by the "Arrivederci" mafioso, eh?

Well, there's no harm in saying it now. While I was alive, I was committed to finding the mafia. However, now that I am "sleeping with the fishes," I declare my full support for the current mafia. Yes, I am still bitter about last game. I agree that this village is full of unworthy humans (:tomato2:).:laugh4: Evil shall rule the day!:evil:

EDIT: Thanks Tiberius.:2thumbsup:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'd vote Lemur, but since Reenk Roink has already been lynched by majority vote, I'll abstain from voting this round.

[GeneralHankerchief]

"Sharks with lazers! Sharks with lazers!"

The chant had been going on ever since Reenk Roink had gotten the 6th vote, thus sealing his fate. Really, they had been screaming for his blood ever since he made a few comments the previous date. Everyone had known that the voting process would be a mere formality.

"Sharks with lazers! Sharks with lazers!"

Surprisingly, Reenk had gotten into the chant himself, screaming it along with the crowd. Later, people would determine that the only reason that he'd do this was because he was totally, fantastically insane.

When Chief of Police Beirut had announced Reenk's name, the condemned bounded up the steps to the execution platform, and stood next to the pit, raising his arms high. He was treating his death like a party.

"Sharks with lazers! Sharks with lazers!"

"QUIET DOWN!" Beirut roared and so it was done. "Reenk, any last words."

Reenk Roink took on a deranged grin.

"Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.

"BWHAHAHEEHOGAHTHREESEVENTY- NINEBARTIXREEHEEHEEHEEHHAW..."

It was the most maniacal laugh any of them had ever heard, and it went on for minutes, with the laugher never stopping for breath. While this was going on, Beirut opened the pit so the sharks with frickin' lazers could witness this spectacle too.

"...HARGARFARPARMARBARF- BLEEHEEHOHOUNDYOINGHEHHEHHEH..."

After the fifth minute, Reenk started to toss his neck while laughing too. However, this proved to be unwise as the poor neck snapped and Reenk Roink stumbled into the pit, finally silenced forever.

The crowd was silenced too as they made their way home, unnerved by the insanity that had taken place.

Here is the voting total for Session 7:

Reenk Roink: 7 :skull:
Wonderland: 1

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Peasant Phill
Gertgregoor
Wonderland
Hiji

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink

~~~~~~~

GH note: Reenk requested to die snapping his neck while laughing, I am just obliging. :dizzy2:

[Avicenna]

Cowhead, you want this one: :tomato2:

GHC: what's a lazer?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I think that's a joke based on Austin Powers. The son gets Dr. Evil a pool full of "sharks with lazers".


And I quote:


It's a shark with a frickin' lazer on it's head!

[Reenk Roink]

GH note: Reenk requested to die snapping his neck while laughing, I am just obliging. :dizzy2:

And exactly like I pictured it...:2thumbsup: :bow:

[GeneralHankerchief]

It's also spelled "laser," I just prefer the Z.

[Ignoramus]

Then it is definitely Lemur! I won't congratuale the villages, as they killed me.

[scotchedpommes]

Hiji lurks amongst us yet. I would be willing to cast a vote in his direction soon,
were I more convinced that Lemur isn't going to be mauled by an angry mob in
the coming days.

[Moros]

OK, you villagers should really lynch Reenk and Gertgregoor.

Reenk because he's acting suspicious, he even seems to think so himself. And Gert, I think you've been put on Reenk's list to ''clear'' you from the other villagers.

I mean think about It, would a comment such as this ....



....get you on Reenk's list ? I think not, he didn't even have proof he (Reenk) did it. He was merely following the rest.

:balloon2:
~:( Dutch guy? I tought we were freinds in happy frontroom kingdom? ~:(
~;)

Anyway apparently the fact that I like pie and follow the groups are his motifs. Oh well... What do I care as long as I have pie and I'm killed in a funny way, I couldn't care less.

Hmmm death by pie?

Anyway, I find hiji to be quite quiet, or is that just me. Also where's kommodus with his spreadsheet(spelling?)?

[Lemur]

If you check out the last two Mafia games, Dutch Guy has been freakishly accurate. I'm not sure how he does it, though ...

[Reenk Roink]

Anyway apparently the fact that I like pie and follow the groups are his motifs. Oh well... What do I care as long as I have pie and I'm killed in a funny way, I couldn't care less.

Well, it's mainly because you voted to lynch me... :wink:

But c'mon guys, just because I put you on the List, doesn't mean I don't like you. :bow: :shakehands:

[Silver Rusher]

Thank you Kommodus for the spreadsheet. Here is my new suspect list, assuming Reenk Roink was in the mafia:

SSNeoperestroika, AggonyDuck and Kommodus I believe to be all innocent. SS has a very good voting record, AD started the Reenk Roink bandwagon (although he does have one of the worst voting records of any player in this game) and Kommodus has managed to persuade me in the chatroom of his innocence and also with his voting record and the spreadsheet he gave me (not an entirely safe piece of evidence I admit).

Gertgregoor: Went on RR's list seemingly unprompted and has a voting record of almost 60% which is around what I would expect from a mafioso, 100% being the worst record possible and 0% being the best (using their best methods of trying to decieve it. Also, RR has a similar voting record). Dutch_guy suspects him also, and he is always right. ~;)

EEFM: Also has a 60% voting record, but actually abstained from voting in the last round. He has been keeping a very low profile throughout this game, without actually lurking, and has gotten away with it so far.

Peasant Phill: Voting record of between 60% and 70%, and has bandwagoned in 4/5 of his votes. Also has been keeping a low profile.

Wonderland: 60%-70% voting record, pardoned on Reenk Roink's list (hmm). On the one occasion that he hasn't bandwagoned in this game he voted for Lemur, who was one vote away from a tie in that round.

But IMHO the most likely prospect is that the game is already over. I can't find any suspects with very good evidence against them, and if the other mafioso is already dead it would mean that RR got control of their kills, making it easy to kill off somebody on the list using the other 'character'.

[Moros]

Gertgregoor: Went on RR's list seemingly unprompted and has a voting record of almost 60% which is around what I would expect from a mafioso, 100% being the worst record possible and 0% being the best (using their best methods of trying to decieve it. Also, RR has a similar voting record). Dutch_guy suspects him also, and he is always right. ~;)


I told everyone I'd be away two to three days, remember? Sorry if I missed a round or two. But well the fact that Dutch_guy suspects me is making me believe I'm a mafia myself? Am I? Please someone tell me! I guess the general is quite mad at me as I haven't send him any kill this game yet.

:hide:
Sorry general I forgot.

Hmmm I really should go to a doctor, shouldn't I?

[Silver Rusher]

I told everyone I'd be away two to three days, remember?
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say voting record. It's the percentage of times you vote for known innocents, not the percentage of times you vote at all.

[Moros]

ohw... Well sorry if I'm not a good investigator. Oh well. I guess I should have done some more investigation. And I really should have worked on my excel spreadsheet. But for a reason I stopped after the first turn. Meh. I'll discover
him anyway. Let's start then

my suspects at the moment:
Reenk Roink, Lemur, kommodus and Crazed Rabbit.

Reenk Roink is well... I don't really know but his behaviour...Soething just sounds wierd. I'm not the only one.

Lemur well he surely fits that story telling mafia. Not the only one either.

Kommodus: he did such a good job last time. Now however he seems to be less active and hasn't done that much detective work or so it seems. Also the fact such a dangerous guy for the mafia still lives. Makes him suspicous.

Crazed Rabbit: didn't vote for RR, rather quiet. Something suspicious about him.

Gertgregoor: I saw him eating a spicy meat-a-ball. ~:inquisitive: ~;)

Yes I've made an appointment with my doctor...

[Dutch_guy]

ohw... Well sorry if I'm not a good investigator. Oh well. I guess I should have done some more investigation. And I really should have worked on my excel spreadsheet. But for a reason I stopped after the first turn.

Which is why you deserve to be lynched, suddenly deciding that being detective might save you're life isn't the best way to respond to such an accusation.

Although your remark about Kommodus is noted.

Oh, and by the way, you still have someone to investigate I think.

Detective....

:balloon2:

[Moros]

I have done some minor detective work in the past...
Anyway who do I need to investigate more? I would say silver Rusher but he's dead, right?

SSneoperi whatever: I can't recall much of him. He has been avoiding attantion apperently but he doesn't feel like the real mafioso tough.

Then we have Aggony duck: has been active, has done accusation but seems more like an idealist villager who is n't afraid to be killed bu the mafia.

Wonderland: king of bandwaggoning

And: evil maniac from mars. I must say how longer I think about it how more fit he is. Really noone has almost ever heard his name has been almost lurking. He did vote but didn't say much else (as far as I recal). He has avoided attention and got away with it.

I think the story telling mafioso is our freind Lemur, eloquent fella. He fits it exactly. And i think most of you can relate to this feeling. Then the falx guy, RR has the knowledge. But then again most people over here have a better then average knowledge about these thing. Everybody knows a falx from RTW. And well he might have wikied it. He fits it but I have my doubts. EMFM is a good candidat too. Not because he knows his history (no clue if he does or not, but there's something special about him...his behaviour.)

Anyway if you guys want to lynch me go ahead. I guess I should have hlepd more. Oh well. I'm in the other game anyway.

[Dutch_guy]

Anyway if you guys want to lynch me go ahead. I guess I should have hlepd more. Oh well. I'm in the other game anyway.

Well, either post a screeny of you being the detective, or tell us whom you investigated. Surely you must have investigated some one - again, prove it with a screeny.

Each and every one of us knows who's still alive, no one is innocent in a way. You don't have to keep telling us that, we all act suspicious in our own way - especially if you've made it this far...

:balloon2:

[Moros]

I never claimed to be the detective, I said I wasn't a good detective by matter of speech. And btw: what would that prove, I could easily photoshop it (see the Belgian politics and nonsense thread). and I can steal the text from the previous game.

Anyhow, as you have a verry thrust worthy reputation, I guess I'm doomed anyway. Oh well. It's time I get something to eat anyway. (I really should eat at normal hours...Meh.)

[Crazed Rabbit]

Unless I see some pics like Tiberius', I'm going to very much doubt you are the detective.

Especially since you are admitting, seemingly, to being the detective before the next kills have been decided by the mafia, and the villagers cannot yet lynch anyone - this would seem to be the worst possible time to reveal yourself. You are in no immediate danger from lynching, yet you say you are the detective when you are in the most danger from the mafia.

If you are not killed next by the mafia, it would seem to be very, very suspicious to me.

EDIT: In response to the above post:

Anyway who do I need to investigate more?

I never claimed to be the detective
Oh really?

Crazed Rabbit

[Dutch_guy]

I never claimed to be the detective, I said I wasn't a good detective by matter of speech. And btw: what would that prove, I could easily photoshop it (see the Belgian politics and nonsense thread). and I can steal the text from the previous game.

Anyhow, as you have a verry thrust worthy reputation, I guess I'm doomed anyway. Oh well. It's time I get something to eat anyway. (I really should eat at normal hours...Meh.)

Well you are right, one can easily photoshop just about anything one wants, but photoshoped pics done in a hurry often contain mistakes.

Well trustworthy isn't exactly the right word per se, iI did manage to vote for the correct people in the previous game, but I didn't exactly start a bandwagon as far as I recall.

And of course, I can be convinced too you know ~;)

:balloon2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The late morning found Peasant Phill out in his fields, dragging a plow behind his tractor. It was hot, and he had just decided to head in for lunch, when he noticed a figure in the distance walking towards him. Phill strained his eyes in the direction of the man, and was soon able to make out a familiar face.

“Good morning, Mr. Phill!” the man called. “You look well!”

“Never better!” replied the farmer, getting down from his tractor and walking to meet his friend. “What brings you out here this morning?”

“Well,” said the man, now face-to-face with Phill, “I came to discuss a proposition with you. It may sound far-fetched, but I’ve made a discovery that will drastically change the world for the better. I’d like to offer you the opportunity to be a part of it.”

Peasant Phill looked puzzled. “What kind of discovery is this?” he asked. “And why are you asking for help from me?”

“Most of the people in this town are too inward-focused to see the value of it,” the man replied. “You, on the other hand, live constantly with nature. You understand the cycles of life and the connectedness of all things; you face the principle of natural selection every day. You’ve watched as the human race has cheated this principle, bringing decay and devastation on itself and the rest of the environment.”

Peasant Phill began to grow uneasy. Where was his friend going with this?

The man continued in a lower voice. “Most are blind to this reality,” he said. “Orb tried to stop me; so did Ice. That’s why they had to be eliminated.”

Phill’s initial shock quickly turned to blind rage. “You… murderer!” he screamed as he lunged at his so-called friend – the mafioso – and began to strangle him. The mafioso didn’t seem to be resisting. Phill threw him to the ground; the mafioso went down hard on his stomach. Phill kicked him in the side, then rolled him over, preparing to punch him in the face. He paused when he saw a strange sadistic grin on the man’s face.

“What are you smiling at, you sick monster?!” screamed Phill. “What is there to stop me from killing you right now?”

The mafioso began to laugh, a slow, chilling chuckle. “You can’t kill me, Mr. Phill,” he said matter-of-factly, “because you are already dead.”

It was only then that Phill noticed a small, open glass vial in the man’s hand. At that moment, he felt a strange sensation on his skin – at first a tingle, then an itch. He looked down at his arms and was shocked to see small grayish spots forming on them, growing at an alarming rate. Horrified, he turned to run, but he had only made it a few steps when his legs stopped working and he fell.

“You should feel honored, Mr. Phill,” said the mafioso, slowly rising to his feet. “You have just made a truly historic contribution to an enterprise that will change everything. You are my first real test subject. You have given me everything I came for, and the world will thank you.”

Phill tried to speak, but the words would not come. The itching had become an unbearable pain, and the grayish color now covered the entire surface of his skin. His body was being devoured from the outside in. Several minutes later, the mafioso was gone and nothing remained of Phill but what looked like a pile of gray dust.

Later that evening, Hiji was sitting home, watching some TV. He flicked on the news.

"...dead whale on Tosa Ave, blocking traffic..." Flick.

"...Peasant Phill nowhere to be found..." Flick.

"...Mafia seemed to have moved to the next town over, several deaths and murder attempts over there..." Flick.

Nothing on. Hiji decided to get some sleep. He went up to his bathroom to brush his teeth... and found the Chinese characters 關刀 written in blood-red letters on his mirror. Seconds later, he felt a sharp, cold pain in his chest. He looked down and saw a long, pole-like weapon which had pierced his stomach.

The mafioso stepped in. "關刀," he said.

"W...what?" Hiji gasped.

"It's the weapon. You know, Zuang Zi once said 'Life is finite, knowledge is infinite.' Apparently your knowledge is quite finite, just like your life. No matter. You'll die a nice, painful death anyway."

He sat down on a chair. "I like slow deaths. They're so much more fun. We get a nice conversation out of it before you die. And I don't mind it if you scream, either. I could use a laugh."

But Hiji was determined to die with dignity.

"Why?" he managed.

"Why? Why am I killing everybody in the Frontroom? The same reason you flush this toilet - to keep it clean. Thank God there aren't many more rooms to do."

"You're sick... crazy... won't get... away... withit..." Hiji struggled to get all the words in.

"Yes, I'm quite different from such a primitive creature like you, thank you. So you finally are starting to understand it? And well, yes I will succeed. I have killed so many already so I can't see why I wouldn't win. Who is going to stop me anyway? Those stupid Frontroomers and that silly police chief? Not in a million years."

Hiji tried to retort but found that nothing would come out of his mouth. His eyes started to roll back. The mafioso noticed this and they both realized that Hiji was almost gone.

"Well, this was a nice chat, wasn't it? And look on the bright side: Death gives us sleep, eternal youth, and immortality." But Hiji didn't hear it.

"關刀, or should I say, arrivederci," the mafioso said as he lit up a cigarette and left. "Strange guy," he muttered to himself, "who'd want to name himself after a Japanese city?"

Chief of police Beirut looked grim. "Gentlemen," he began, "I have nothing to say. If you're the mafia, confess, and we will spare you from the sharks with frickin' lazers."

Nobody confessed.

"**** it, guess we're voting again."

[Moros]

EDIT: In response to the above post:


Oh really?

Crazed Rabbit
Investigate I tought he meant to post who I find supsicious, and stuff. A lot of people investigate others. Well I know investigate might not be the perfect word, but that's the best I have. (Not native). And I tought that was what DG meant at first. Just a confusion and only another proof Ican't be the mafia, as my storries would be full of spelling mistakes grammar mistakes, and they would be rather short and bizarre. Anyway you vote for who you want to vote, I don't care.

Anyway, does anybody know if someone of the remained people can talk chinese, japanese or whatever asian laguage it is?

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm voting EDIT: vote for gertgregoor retracted, as of now.

His recent actions have been very suspicious (see the bottom half of the last page for his posts).

And he wants to go after someone who speaks an Asian language because of the arrivederci guy, who's trademark seems to be killing people with exotic weapons, and knowledge of ancient, foreign cultures.

Crazed Rabbit

[Moros]

I vote Kommodus.

[AggonyDuck]

Here's a list of those still alive to get a better overview of the situation:

Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Gertgregoor
Wonderland

Currently there is 8 of us left, and there will be 5 of us left when the mafia has done the next murders. This means we have only two turns left to find the culprit among us. So we need to get this right.

Additionally we have a problem. The remaining one or two mafiosos have left very few clues about themselves. Even the clue left in the murders doesn't seem to hold much weight. I checked the "關刀" symbol on Babelfish and it was translated to Guang's Broadsword. I'm not sure really what we can make out of this. If anyone has an idea, then you better speak it out.

Anyways lets carefully contemplate before voting, because every vote counts here. If we fail to kill the mafia within the following two votes, then the mafia has won, because there will only be two of us left by then, which means mafia will win the duel. So lets make these votes count.

[Dooz]

Y'know, I'm torn between Lemur and Gert, of which the latter was never even on the radar until his recent posts... weird. I think both need to go, but Gert should probably be first. His vote had no point and the posts before that were highly suspicious. He also named me the "king of bandwagoning" which I found to be quite erroneous and arbitrary.

Vote: Gertgregoor

[Kommodus]

Ok, I now strongly suspect that Gertgregoor is the arrivederci mafioso. He is acting very suspiciously, and there are many pieces of evidence that point to him.

Consider how he behaves when accused – he throws suspicion all around, at most of the remaining players. To me this looks like an attempt to obfuscate. I don’t think he was claiming to be the detective (that was just a misunderstanding), but his other statements are rife with half-truths and things that don’t make sense.

Apparently Reenk Roink, a dead man, is his primary suspect. Did someone as active as Gertgregoor somehow miss the execution, or is he just messing with us? His comments about myself and others are also rather inaccurate. I recognize an obfuscator when I see one.

In addition, Gertgregoor was named along with Reenk Roink and Wonderland in AggonyDuck’s post concerning historically-minded people who are involved with EB. Really, he’s drawn suspicion to himself periodically throughout the game; the only reason I haven’t voted for him yet is that his voting record has looked OK. But as he himself said, he reviewed the last game, and would’ve known what to do to fool my spreadsheet early on. As Silver Rusher pointed out though, it’s finally catching up with him.

As AggonyDuck said, we don’t have many chances left. Let’s make this one count. I vote Gertgregoor.

EDIT: Vote changed; see below.

[Reenk Roink]

I have a confession:

I've been playing you suckers all along... :laugh4:

I am a "bad villager" as someone earlier put it. I don't care if the mafia or the villagers win, I'm just in it so that all the people in my List don't win, be they mafia or villager.

The psychological manipulation ("guarantee" :tongue3:) worked perfectly, acting suspicious, but more deranged. :2thumbsup:

Acting too suspicious would cause me to get dismissed as a poser, so I added some insanity to the persona. :wink:

The only one to put a finger on it was Cowhead418, and he was coincidently, killed off as well. :2thumbsup:

Oh and by the way, mafia peeple(s), I've been playing you too. You see, it is really hard to kill somebody as a villager (voting sucks :tongue:). So I thought, let's manipulate the mafia Yep, thanks for knocking off Drisos for me. I knew you would, after all, it would lay the blame and suspicion on me, and you could not pass that opportunity up. :2thumbsup:

I look forward to seeing how many more on the List will die... :grin:

[Moros]

You're luck I'm drunk and can't defend myself howeer, who ever told you I know history? I got into EB as beta testre. Never don history stuff things. And what has EB to do whit it anyway?

By the way does nobdy fins it suspicius that it's the first time kommodus post a big post. trying to get someone lynched. After he was named supicius and I vopted for him. Quiet differnt form the previous game, no?

oh pooh.

[B-Wing]

I really don't see why anyone is accusing Gert of claiming to be the detective. ~;p All he did was use the word "investigate" in a vague manner.

[Moros]

One guys with brains.
Can I atleast be killed at a fun way? dogs that bark bees or something?

[AggonyDuck]

I am absolutely sure that Gert is not a member of the mafia. We're shooting us in the leg here. We need this vote to count and voting on Gert is a great way to not make it count. His recent flurry of activity is fueled by a growing sense of desperation as is mine. So lets contemplate on this a while longer please. I ask you to take back your votes on him, if we want to win this game.

[Moros]

So I mit not get killed anyway?

[AggonyDuck]

It is up to the others to decide.

[Moros]

Guess I see after first day shool...

~:( not like aschool.

[AggonyDuck]

Ok, I now strongly suspect that Gertgregoor is the arrivederci mafioso. He is acting very suspiciously, and there are many pieces of evidence that point to him.

Consider how he behaves when accused – he throws suspicion all around, at most of the remaining players. To me this looks like an attempt to obfuscate. I don’t think he was claiming to be the detective (that was just a misunderstanding), but his other statements are rife with half-truths and things that don’t make sense.


The reason why he is throwing suspicion around is because there is every reason to do so. Currently we have very little clarity in the true identities of our killers and we have very little to go by except suspicions. I don't think we should kill off Gert, because he is confused about who the mafia might be. I'm afraid intuition is what we will have to go by in here.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Okay, I retract my vote for now. Why are you so sure of his innocence, AggonyDuck?

Crazed Rabbit

[AggonyDuck]

It is a combination of intuition and discussion with him. He just doesn't fit in the role of the mafioso for me. This will sounds a bit strange for you in the context of the game, but I trust him. I don't think he is guilty of the murders.


But the next question is; if Gertgregoor is innocent, then who is behind all this? I do not have an answer yet.

[Kommodus]

EDIT: I retract this vote; please disregard this post.

AggonyDuck and I have just had a very interesting discussion in the chatroom, and I'm changing my vote to evil_manic from mars.

Basically, we used a process of elimination. I'm quite confident that SSNeoperestroika and Crazed Rabbit are innocent, and AggonyDuck strongly backed up Gertgregoor, saying that his recent histeria is probably due to desperation. That left the following people on our list of suspects:

EMFM
Wonderland
Lemur

Lemur, as always, is a big question mark, but we ultimately concluded that he was innocent. That left EMFM and Wonderland. There are two points to be made concerning EMFM:

1. He's voted sometimes, but not always; his participation in general is a little inconsistent. This is similar to the tactic used by Kagemusha in game 1; he posted enough to not be a lurker, but flew under the radar.

2. My spreadsheet indicates that he's voted for a known innocent 100% of the time.

These considerations make EMFM the strongest suspect in my mind. He has barely been suspected in this game, and I suspect this may have been carefully orchestrated.

Please consider carefully before voting.

[AggonyDuck]

EDIT: vote taken back due to Crazed Rabbit's evidence.

[Crazed Rabbit]

EMFM is innocent. At the begining of this game, I looked at the profiles of some people and when they last visited. From about 24 hours before GH posted that he had sent out the PMs and until after the first kills had been posted, EMFM was not on this website, and so could not send any PMs. Since these were the first PMs, he could not send his kill early, as he wouldn't have known he was a mafia.

I'm un-retracting my vote for Gertgregoor.

Crazed Rabbit

[Sasaki Kojiro]

invisible mode, remember

[Crazed Rabbit]

If in invisible mode, would not his profile have displayed nothing? Some other people's displayed nothing.

Crazed Rabbit

[AggonyDuck]

EMFM is innocent. At the begining of this game, I looked at the profiles of some people and when they last visited. From about 24 hours before GH posted that he had sent out the PMs and until after the first kills had been posted, EMFM was not on this website, and so could not send any PMs. Since these were the first PMs, he could not send his kill early, as he wouldn't have known he was a mafia.

I'm un-retracting my vote for Gertgregoor.

Crazed Rabbit

You make a good point there. Maybe we still need to think this over some more before doing a definitive vote. Also that would leave my and Kommodus suspect list down to Wonderland mostly.

[Kommodus]

EMFM is innocent. At the begining of this game, I looked at the profiles of some people and when they last visited. From about 24 hours before GH posted that he had sent out the PMs and until after the first kills had been posted, EMFM was not on this website, and so could not send any PMs. Since these were the first PMs, he could not send his kill early, as he wouldn't have known he was a mafia.

My vote for EMFM has been retracted. Thanks, Rabbit.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'll go through the list. Remember, I don't keep any kind of spread sheet, I go mostly by evidence I can see and gut instinct, not to mention the occasional bandwagon. This is mostly a summary. :juggle2:

Crazed Rabbit-Unlikely to be guilty. No evidence for or against.

SSNeoperestroika-Either I'm missing posts, or he's semi-lurking. A canidate for a vote.

AggonyDuck-Very active. Possible? Maybe? Could be? I'm split over this.

Lemur-Where did he go? Maybe we should lynch him to be safe? No real evidence for or against, I suppose.

Kommodus-Nothing to go by but instinct, and I doubt he's guilty.

Gertgregoor-I doubt he's guilty, but he seems the third or fourth most suspicious here.

Wonderland-Seems suspicous to me. I'm curious what information Kommodus has about him on the spreadsheet. My vote will go to him or Gert, unless someone can find a decisive answer to the below:

Who here has a knowledge of Chinese or Chinese history?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ok, there are eight still alive.

By my count I have definite votes from Gert, Rabbit, Wonderland, and AggonyDuck.

Kommodus has yet to commit, as does SSNeoperestroika and EMFM. Lemur has yet to post. Correct me if this is wrong.

BTW, starting next round Sasaki's vote: General H/unvote: General H rule will be implemented. This is getting too confusing.

[Dooz]

Ok, screw it. Even though I have a funny feeling about Gert, I'm gonna' go with what I should have gone with in the first place, Lemur.

unvote: Gertgregoor
vote: Lemur

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

You make a good point there. Maybe we still need to think this over some more before doing a definitive vote. Also that would leave my and Kommodus suspect list down to Wonderland mostly.
I don't know if Aggony's is definite, unless you've talked to him GH?

[Crazed Rabbit]

My suspects:
SSNeoperestroika: I think he is innocent.

AggonyDuck: I don't know. I'm torn as of now, leaning towards innocent.

evil_maniac from mars: As I said before, I think he's innocent

Lemur: I don't know. He was very active, but after his near lynching, he's quieted down a lot.

Kommodus: My gut says innocent, but I don't know. He could be mafia.

Gertgregoor: My most suspicious candidate. Of course, as of late he's hasn't really seemed to be mafia, but I don't know.

Wonderland: I think he's innocent. His votes, according to my spreadsheet, were for:
Banquo's Ghost - innocence unknown, but likely innocent
The Spartan - self-proclaimed mafia, suspected villager
Ignoramus - innocence unknown, likely innocent
Lemur - innocence unknown, still suspicious
Reenk Roink - self proclaimed 'bad villager', likely innocent

It should be noted that probably all the executed would be listed as likely innocent.

Crazed Rabbit

[GeneralHankerchief]

A note that Ice has been killed, therefore proven innocent.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Whoops, suspect list corrected.

CR

[scotchedpommes]

I was prepared to vote for evil_manic from mars, based on the points presented
by Kommodus, but now I have to say I am torn, having considered Rabbit's observations.

[Avicenna]

Some mafia knows the Romance of the Three Kingdoms eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwan_Dao

Definitely a historian.

[Lemur]

Lemur: I don't know. He was very active, but after his near lynching, he's quieted down a lot.

Lemur-Where did he go? Maybe we should lynch him to be safe? No real evidence for or against, I suppose.
Hey! You kids! Some of us have jobs! Ever hear of end of the month? It kinda means something when you're selling technology.

Actually, that's only part of it. When everybody was bandwagoning on me, I sort of prepared myself for lynching number three, and I was determined to have fun with it. I spent my last villager dollars on cake, dancing girls, a marching band, punch, and a big "Mission Accomplished" poster. And then I didn't get lynched, even after voting for myself. It was all very strange. I was mentally ready to be done with the game.

Not we're in the final rounds, and after baiting the mafia, asking to be assassinated, declaring myself mafia, and voting for myself, I'm still standing. I really don't know what to make of it. Color me confused.

Then the end of the month hit, and the littlest lemur has been screaming every night, and I've gotten a little distracted. Sorry about that.

Anyway, getting back into the game ... here's a thought: If Kommodus, the keeper of the spreadsheet, were mafia, would we have any way of knowing? I see others have asked, but I'm not clear on whether or not there's any meat.

Since Wonderland is now unpopular for lynching, I'm changing my vote to Evil Maniac From Mars.

[Moros]

Oh.. me head.

Anyway, gonna defend myself one more last time. The first thing that made me suspicious would be that I was part of Zalmoxis. Now, not a verry good argument imo. Ask any EB member, I don't envolve anything when it's about history. When it's about computer stuff, I sometimes have my say or something like that. I got into EB as a beta tester, later Teleklos asked me if I couldn't help searching for building pics. And that's how I got in. Now yes I do know Zalmoxis, from a book I've read once (can't remember the title) and terry jone's barbarians. (BBC serie). And ofcourse like any other r:tw player I know what a falx is. That other weapon, I've never heard of but by only googleing thracian weapons it's the first one I found.

The second argument was that I behaved supiscious. People here were hanged because they wanted to find the out who was tha mafia. And almost anybody will act suspicious or strange after being suspected. Some even claimed to be the mafia, to get back at everybody. Acting suspicious over here is almost no argument. As a mafia would behave himself as less suspicious as he could, (kagemusha style) at least I would.

The third is that I said I was the detective, which was a misunderstanding. Just because I used the word investigate, as I lacked a better word and tought everybody would get that. Sorry but my lack of English is only the proof I couldn't even write a decent kill.

The fourth argument was that I started to get more active and more investigating (not the detective, just lack words). Well most people are more active after their exams. (got straight A's this time!)

The fifth argument was that I was on RR's list. Now seriuos, he apparently was no mafia, I was not the only one on the list for just one silly reason.

The sixth argument was my voting record. I had 60%. I don't know on what it is based exactly and I'd love to see it. Also Peasant Phill, EMFM, Wonderland had if not the same, more then me. And what does that prove? A mafia would know about kommodus and the voting records. So if there would be someone who's carefull at voting it would be mafias. So I'd check out those with a very good record too. MAfioso are not stupid (hey yet another reason I can't be him!)

7th reason I saw myself eating a spicy meat-a-ball.

And Btw, lemaur, just call me gert. ~;)

Anyway, Is there someone now, who speaks chinese? Or has knowledge of china or something. I don't know anyone of the survivors decently so, I have no clue. And for the wirter-mafioso. We really should see if any of these guys are frequent in the backroom.

In the meantime I change my vote to Evil maniac from mars. He already has a vote that way I might get to save my own skin. (I don't want to die and go back to school the same day.
unvote: kommodus
vote: evil maniac from mars

Anyway I need some coffee, thank god school starts in the afternoon, love that.
I

[AggonyDuck]

Sorry GH, but my earlier vote for EMFM has to be retracted. Crazed Rabbit has made me aware of his innocence. I'm going to change my vote for Wonderland, the other of the possible players listed on my and Kommodus list.

About me being a possible subject; you will just have to trust me on being innocent. Nothing else you can do.

[Moros]

I've talked with agonny and I'm now changing my vote to wonderland
also. (unvote: EMFM)

[GeneralHankerchief]

A few hours to finalize your votes before I close it, gentlemen.

By my count there's a tie right now with three people left to vote. I have no intention of re-voting this round so please get them in.

[Kommodus]

After much deliberation, I have chosen to cast my vote for Wonderland. AggonyDuck, I really hope you're right about Gertgregoor.

[Silver Rusher]

Guys, I have been talking to Gert and AggonyDuck in the chat and I think they are both pretty well innocent. Everyone change your vote to Wonderland(NOT A VOTE)! Victory approaches!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Guys, I'm pretty sure that Wonderland is innocent. Please don't vote for him.

EDIT: Further explaination: I've observed his behavior and it does not seem that of a mafia. Also, his vote record is not bad, as I've shown. Gert, on the other hand, has acted very suspiciously.

Crazed Rabbit

[Silver Rusher]

Yeah, I can't remember why I accused Wonderland, guess I was doing some form of ghost bandwagoning. I don't think it's him either.

Weeeell I think I have been able to narrow down the suspects a bit and funnily enough, EMFM is the only one left.

Crazed Rabbit (good voting record)
SSNeoperestroika (very good voting record)
AggonyDuck (convinced me in various ways, could be guilty though)
evil_maniac from mars (no evidence would make me think he is innocent, he is also a historical guy and the kills have moved on from Thracian weaponry)
Lemur (I think I'm gonna say bad villager on this one)
Kommodus (also convinced me in various ways, voting record good, etc.)
Gertgregoor (also convinced me in various ways (his behavior seems good), could still be guilty)
Wonderland (I will take Crazed_Rabbits word for it, he seems innocent)

While none of this evidence, except in SSNeoperestroika's case, can make me sure that they are innocent, probably safest to go after EMFM this round.

Oh GAH I don't know. This is too difficult. If the remaining mafioso isn't EMFM I have to say good job to them, you really have confused me.

[AggonyDuck]

Well if Wonderland isn't guilty either, then I'm back to square one. Either way I'm going to stick to my vote here, because I don't think Gert is guilty.

[Kommodus]

Guys, I'm pretty sure that Wonderland is innocent. Please don't vote for him.

EDIT: Further explaination: I've observed his behavior and it does not seem that of a mafia. Also, his vote record is not bad, as I've shown. Gert, on the other hand, has acted very suspiciously.

Crazed Rabbit

I thought the same thing originally. But it's possible to fake both those things; in fact, I'd expect a good mafioso to attempt it. The tactic of flying under the radar, missing a session here and there, and posting enough (but not too much) is a sound mafia strategy, similar to the one used by Kagemusha in game 1. It's also a great way to maintain a decent voting record; there's simply less data that way.

Of course I may be wrong, but at this point, anything we do is a risk.

[scotchedpommes]

I find it hard to believe that Gertgregoor would carry out kills such as the ones
we have seen, and am more inclined to believe it would be evil_maniac from mars.

For that reason, [I do apologise if it turns out to be contributing to mafia
success.] despite Rabbit's observations:

Vote: evil_maniac from mars

[Moros]

I find it hard to believe that Gertgregoor would carry out kills such as the ones

Hey!


:embarassed:

Oh well at least doesn't vote for me. GOod enough for me. lol:laugh4:
(should not drink to much this night :laugh4: ...)

[Dooz]

Yikes, how have I found myself on the road to being lynched? I thank Crazed Rabbit for his support and wisdom. As advised, I change my vote to be saved ane hopefully get an actual mafioso.

unvote: Lemur
vote: Gertgregoor

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ok, with that we now have a tie vote between Wonderland and Gertgregoor.

EMFM pretty much has the deciding vote, unless SSNeo/anyone else wants to switch.

[Drisos]

why is lemur still alive :furious3:

oh wait.. I forgot.. I'm dead:oops: I can't talk :embarassed: :wall:

:laugh4:

[Dooz]

why is lemur still alive :furious3:

I agree my dead friend, he's got to go. But I had to change my vote to save my own skin. Hopefully enough people will change the vote to Lemur to end this thing soon.

[Moros]

Yeah, people let's all vote lemur. That way, I'm saved and Wonderland's saved. I don't think he's a mafioso anyway. But well I knida have to vote for him now. Can't you lengthen the vote time General? SO that we can slowly make up our minds and chnaging our voted without to be scared to be lynched when we change our votes?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Vote: Gertgregoor

Sorry, I don't think it's you, but it's you or Wonderland, and I doubt Wonderland is guilty.

[Reenk Roink]

Damn, my conscience is catching up with me... :sad:

I really hope you guys get the Mafia...

Gertgregoor, condolences if you are not the Mafia... :shame:

[AggonyDuck]

Sorry all, I think this is in the end my mistake. I tried to catch the mafioso by deduction and in the end I might have ended up shooting us all in the foot. :wall:

So how did we come here?

1. I started by concluding that me and Gertgregoor are innocent.
2. Kommodus argued that SS Neoperestroika and Crazed Rabbit were innocent.
3. We then had EMFM, Lemur and Wonderland on the list of subjects. (then we agreed that Lemur wasn't guilty)
4. We tried to vote EMFM but CR proved his innocence, we switched to Wonderland and again CR argued of his innocence.
5. We're left with the same situation as we started with. No idea about the likely suspect.

[GeneralHankerchief]

***EDIT: DISREGARD THIS EXECUTION, THE VOTES WERE MISCOUNTED.***

It was a dreary evening in the Frontroom. Clouds had completely covered everything, with no sign of the sun in sight. Rain was on and off. In short, the perfect weather for a desperate town ready to lynch another person.

The voting session had been its normal length, but the weather made it seem to last ages. Everyone was finally relieved when Chief of Police Beirut ended voting.

"Gentlemen," he said to the remnants of the once-prosperous village, "we have a clear guilty party. By a vote of 3-2-2...

...

...

...

"...Wonderland is hereby sentenced to death by sharks with frickin' lazers."

It was a somber moment. The mafia had done their job well, leaving the villagers frustrated. As a result, nobody really had any starting ground and Wonderland was named due to shaky guesswork and split votes between Gertgregoor and evil_maniac from mars.

"Any last wo- whoa!"

An errant lazer beam had missed the Chief of Police by two inches.

"Any last words, Wonderland?"

He shook his head, looking even more depressed than a person who was condemned and about to be executed on the gloomiest of days.

"Very well." And so, Wonderland was dropped into the pit, where the sharks with frickin' lazers made quick work of him.

Beirut looked down and shook his head.

"I don't know if you were in the mafia or not, but this was some birthday, huh?"

Here is the voting total for Session 8:

Wonderland: 3 (Gertgregoor, Kommodus, AggonyDuck) :skull:
Gertgregoor: 2 (Wonderland, evil_maniac from mars)
evil_maniac from mars: 2 (SSNeoperestroika, Lemur)

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Gertgregoor

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418
Peasant Phill
Hiji

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink
Wonderland

~~~~

Reminder: Starting this coming round, Sasaki's vote: General H/unvote: General H rule will be implemented. I almost didn't notice that Lemur had changed his vote by way of edit. It just makes things easier on me, thanks.

And finally, the weather described is what I'm experiencing at home right now, so it's kind of put me in a serious mood.

[Reenk Roink]

Wait Wonderland is dead? :no:

Again, condolences if your were not the Mafia... :shame:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wha.....??

Where's my vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1231177&postcount=621) for gertgregoor?

gah...

Crazed Rabbit

[Ignoramus]

The mafia are going to win. There are now only 7 people left. Two of them are going to get killed, and at least one of them is part of the mafia. That means there will be only 4 innocents left. Not good.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

This could change with Crazed Rabbit's vote, depending on how the tie is broken.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ok, let me think about this.

Rabbit, I honestly forgot to include your vote, and I apologize.

However, this does change things.

Depending on your timezone, Lemur edited his post at 14:53. At this, the count was now 3-1-2 for Wonderland, Gert, and EMFM, respectively. At 15:27 Wonderland changed his vote to Gert, making it 3-2-2. However, I thought it was a tie at that point, and thus posted such. EMFM cast what he thought would be the tiebreaking vote for Gert.

At this point, things changed. I realized that Lemur had edited his post and switched to Wonderland, rendering EMFM's vote useless. I proceeded to post the execution under the assumption that Wonderland would die, forgetting about Rabbit's vote.

So where does that leave us? In one hand, it's not fair for Wonderland, but on another hand my post might have swayed EMFM into voting early.

As much as it pains me to do this, we're having a re-vote. It's the only fair way to do this. Please cast your votes for either Wonderland or Gertgregoor. You have 18 hours from the time of this post.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Vote: Gertgregoor

The same vote as my last one.

[scotchedpommes]

Vote: Wonderland

[Crazed Rabbit]

Twas an honest mistake GH.

Vote: Gertgregoor

Crazed Rabbit

[Dooz]

Vote: Gert

Sorry man, I don't know if your mafia or not but I gotta' do what I gotta' do. And yes, that was a hell of a birthday, lol. I come back from a wonderful night out with my girlfriend and find out I'm dead. Yeesh. You guys are awful.

[AggonyDuck]

vote: Gertgregoor

Sorry mate but dunno what else I should do.

[Moros]

vote: wonderland.
just trying to save me skin...

[Lemur]

Vote:Gert, although I'd much rather be voting for EMFM ...

[Kommodus]

Vote: Getgregoor

If AD has lost confidence in you, well... you were always a strong suspect in my mind.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

ok, id like to announce that im am not part of the Mafia. it was quite obvious after a long time.
i lied so that perhaps the people who proclaim im not a mafiosi; were in fact a mafiosi.
but i can tell you who are the mafia.
Wonderland and the already dead Pannonian.
trust me.
i know.
so please stop wasting your votes and revote Wonderland.

[Pannonian]

ok, id like to announce that im am not part of the Mafia. it was quite obvious after a long time.
i lied so that perhaps the people who proclaim im not a mafiosi; were in fact a mafiosi.
but i can tell you who are the mafia.
Wonderland and the already dead Pannonian.

I admit, I was one of the mafiosi. I was killed by the other mafioso when we fell out over what flavour of spicy meat-a-balls to order. He killed GeneralHankerchief as well when he pointed out this wasn't possible under the rules. Beirut and BKS have been filling in since GH's murder.



trust me.

The funniest post in this thread.

[Silver Rusher]

i lied so that perhaps the people who proclaim im not a mafiosi; were in fact a mafiosi.
Mafiosi - n. Plural of mafioso. Those mafiosi are killing all of us! That mafioso is killing all of us!

And why on earth would the mafia do that, The Spartan? Your false confession was a shield to the real mafia for as long as people believed you; they would never throw that away. Thanks to you, Uesugi Kenshin got lynched falsely. It's a good thing I was able to bring people to their senses before more innocents were lynched in connection with you.

I'm not sure why people would trust you when you say you know who the mafia are after your false confession, especially if you don't back it up with any evidence. Also, the fact that Pannonian was killed by the mafia makes it even more questionable.

:no: :no: :no:

[doc_bean]

my my, quite a few restless ghosts around here :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Everyone had gathered to leave. Suddenly they were interrupted by a familiar voice.

WAIT JUST A MINUTE!"

It was the voice of God/General Hankerchief.

"YOU HAVE UNFAIRLY EXECUTED THIS MAN, WONDERLAND. A CERTAIN VOTE WAS NOT COUNTED." Everybody looked around strangely. Nobody said anything.

"LOOK, YOU MORONS. YOU FORGOT TO COUNT A VOTE, MEANING THAT THERE WAS A TIE. A RE-VOTE MUST BE DONE."

Chief of Police Beirut finally spoke. "But how? We already executed Wonderland."

God/General Hankerchief chuckled. "SO?" There was a flash of light and there was Wonderland, looking confused but very much alive. Due to the astonishment of the people, the re-vote went heavily against poor Gertgregoor, who had started to drink heavily as soon as Wonderland was resurrected.

There must have been some other stuff in Gert's drink as well because he believed that he was going to be executed by dogs that spit bees at him.

"AAAH! Get these bees away from me!" Gert started to run around being chased by invisible bees, tripping quite often. Then he discovered the pit with the sharks with frickin' lazers inside. Apparently believing that the pit was his only safe haven, he immediately headed for it.

"At l-least I diiiiiied ffffor a better c-cause," he slurred before diving into the pit. Thus was the end of Gertgregoor, and the end of the voting.

Here is the vote total for Session 8a:

Gertgregoor: 6 :skull:
Wonderland: 2

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Wonderland

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418
Peasant Phill
Hiji

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink
Gertgregoor

~~~~~~~

Yes, Gert did request to be executed that way.

[Dooz]

Oh man, I'm so happy, lol. Thanks for the resurrection God! I appreciate your support and sensibilities villagers. When this whole thing is over, and if I'm still alive, I'm buying you all a round of drinks ~:cheers: .

Well, it's down to the nitty gritty. I'm still leaning on Lemur. But hell, who knows anything anymore. You'd think God, having all the powers he does, would give us something to work with. But noooo... he kills and resurrects based on votes. Sheesh...... *looks up and runs away, for fear of divine wrath*



*edit*
Oh and the reason behind The Spartan's sudden resurgence and claim that I'm mafia and all that jazz is because of this post in the "The Crusades" mod forum. Just so you guys know ~;) . Come on Spartan, we're all friends here.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1232183&postcount=174

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Mafiosi - n. Plural of mafioso. Those mafiosi are killing all of us! That mafioso is killing all of us!

And why on earth would the mafia do that, The Spartan? Your false confession was a shield to the real mafia for as long as people believed you; they would never throw that away. Thanks to you, Uesugi Kenshin got lynched falsely. It's a good thing I was able to bring people to their senses before more innocents were lynched in connection with you.

I'm not sure why people would trust you when you say you know who the mafia are after your false confession, especially if you don't back it up with any evidence. Also, the fact that Pannonian was killed by the mafia makes it even more questionable.

:no: :no: :no:why not? Pannonian declared im not a mafiosi and he himself is a mafiosi which i believe him.(even if he probably is lying)

edit:however i knew lying would lead to wrong executions.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

*edit*
Oh and the reason behind The Spartan's sudden resurgence and claim that I'm mafia and all that jazz is because of this post in the "The Crusades" mod forum. Just so you guys know ~;) . Come on Spartan, we're all friends here.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1232183&postcount=174why?
that would be a bad reason to chose you out of every other living villager.

[Dooz]

why?
that would be a bad reason to chose you out of every other living villager.

Of course it would be, technically. But a petty grudge is not beyond a forumer I'd venture.

[Silver Rusher]

why not? Pannonian declared im not a mafiosi and he himself is a mafiosi which i believe him.(even if he probably is lying)

edit:however i knew lying would lead to wrong executions.
First of all you obviously paid no attention to the first bit of my post (you want mafioso not mafiosi), and second of all Pannonian was killed by the Mafia, proving him completely, utterly and 100% innocent without argument.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

First of all you obviously paid no attention to the first bit of my post (you want mafioso not mafiosi), and second of all Pannonian was killed by the Mafia, proving him completely, utterly and 100% innocent without argument.doh!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks like i overlooked.

look i didnt lie just to be have my name on every Orgah post in this thread.
i lied to help find the mafia.

[Silver Rusher]

That doesn't help find the mafia, The Spartan, it helps the mafia. I can't see any possible reasoning as to why it would help find the mafia.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

That doesn't help find the mafia, The Spartan, it helps the mafia. I can't see any possible reasoning as to why it would help find the mafia.well i thought it was a good plan.
but as i said i knew it had many downfalls.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hmmm, I think I'm leaning heavily on Lemur too. He acts so suspicious, plus the others just don't seem guilty. But I'll wait to cast my vote until the next crime.

Crazed Rabbit

[Moros]

pff how lame

[GeneralHankerchief]

pff how lame

C'mon, the sun hasn't been out for three days here. Give me a break.

[AggonyDuck]

I have a new suspect, but I will declare my suspicions first after the murders, just to see how true they were.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Crazed Rabbit woke early in the morning, feeling as if a weight had been lifted from his shoulders. After all, he thought confidently, justice had been done.

Getting out of bed, he shuffled out to the kitchen to make breakfast. Mixing up some pancake batter, he began to heat up a skillet on the stove.

Creak.

“What was that noise?” Rabbit thought, turning around sharply. Nothing. “Hm, must have been my imagination,” he thought, turning back to the stove.

Abruptly, he felt a jolt of pain in his back. Glancing down in shock, he saw a razor-sharp point protruding from his stomach.

“This is a katar,” a nasty voice behind him said. “All I have to do is squeeze the handles, and your insides are hamburger.” The mafioso chuckled evilly.

Rabbit couldn’t turn around to see his attacker. Feeling the life draining out of him, he managed to say, “Please… just… end it quickly…”

“Now why on earth would I want to do that?” the mafioso laughed. “This is a moment to be savored.” Putting his mouth up to Rabbit’s ear, he whispered “Don’t worry. All must cross the Chinvat Peretum eventually. Now it’s your turn.”

Suddenly the mafioso squeezed the katar’s handle, and the dual blades separated inside Rabbit’s stomach, causing him extreme agony. As he gave the weapon a sharp twist, he spoke a single word.

“Aludagi.” Twist.

“Baluat.” Another twist.

“Al-wida.” With one final twist, Rabbit was dead.

The mafioso lit up a cigarette with a chuckle. “The Persians were so much wiser than the Greeks,” he said, withdrawing the katar. However, he wasn’t finished with the weapon yet, and he quickly went to work.

By evening, everyone left alive in town had received a simple white box by mail. Upon opening their packages, their reactions were varied – some covered their mouths and cringed; others threw up on the spot. Each package contained a gruesome body part – an arm, a hand, a lower leg – and on each part was carved a single word.

It was Beirut himself who received the head of Crazed Rabbit. He groaned as he read the word carved into the forehead.

ARRIVEDERCI.

SSNeoperestroika was fed up. He was fed up with the mafia for murdering so many of his friends, fed up with the police for not stopping them, and fed up with the remaining villagers for executing so many innocent people. Ever since the killings began, he had carried a gun with him at all times. Now it was time to put it to use.

SSNeo strongly suspected the mafia was using one of the abandoned buildings in the surrounding countryside as their hideout. With his gun safely tucked into a holster on his belt and his hands on the steering wheel of his old pickup truck, he scoured the remote roads, with which he was well familiar. He was checking every building, and it wasn’t long before he spotted one with signs of recent activity – fresh tire tracks in the driveway.

He stopped the truck and got out. The building was an old general store that had been abandoned years ago. The windows were broken and boarded up, and the paint was chipped and faded. However, there were recent footprints in the dirt near the entrance.

Drawing his gun, SSNeo cautiously pushed the door open and stepped inside. The interior looked little better than the exterior, but still there were footprints visible in the thick layer of dust on the floor. He cautiously followed the trail, listening for any sign of activity. There was none.

Finally he reached the back of the store, where the footprints ended at a set of stairs that led down to the basement. SSNeo silently crept down the stairs, till the passageway opened up into a large room. As it was dark, SSNeo felt around for a light switch. Finding one, he flipped it, only to be shocked at the scene before his eyes.

The surprisingly bright white light illuminated a room the contrasted sharply with the rest of the building. It had obviously been recently cleaned, painted, and furnished to look like a laboratory. However, it appeared that whatever equipment had been there before had recently been removed; all that remained was a long metal table with straps on it, several chairs, and a few technical diagrams tacked to the walls. Realizing the place was abandoned, SSNeo walked over to examine one of the diagrams more closely.

He couldn’t determine what was being depicted on the diagram; it was completely foreign. Instead he looked at the text above the drawing. It read “NASA Ames Research Center,” and underneath, “Center for Nanotechnology Research and Development.” SSNeo puzzled over this; what did it mean?

Continuing his tour of the room, he thought he smelled something coming from a closet. He opened the door, and drew back in horror and disgust at what he saw. There lay the body of Drisos, cold and dead. But wait – what was this? A note was hanging from the wall inside the closet. SSNeo quickly grabbed it and began to read.

“Welcome to my former practice location,” the note read. “You must have looked hard to find me. Unfortunately walk-ins are not accepted. Appointments are by invitation only. As you can see, my former patient did not fare well. Do not worry; you will be joining him shortly.”

As he read the last line, SSNeo felt a cold terror in his chest. He glanced up and saw a beeping red light in the darkness of the closet. “This can’t be happening!” he thought as he turned to flee.

He was too late. At that moment, the entire building disintegrated in a massive explosion of flame and debris.

Chief of Police Beirut eyed all that was left of the village. What a tragedy. He no longer needed a megaphone to address the crowd.

"Gentlemen," he said soberly, "Although I had the greatest of expectations, it looks like the sharks with frickin' lazers were useless. Therefore, we have again expanded the pit. So much, in fact, that if the fall doesn't kill you, the massive heat coming from the earth's inner core will. Now get voting!"

[Silver Rusher]

It's either Wonderland or Evil_Maniac From Mars. I'm leaning more heavily on EMFM though. (NOT A VOTE)

[Kommodus]

Guys, I really don't think it's EMFM. I just did a quick experiment to test Crazed Rabbit's assertion that EMFM was not online during the earliest stage of the game, between the start of the game and the time the first kills were posted. It turns out that when someone is in invisible mode, their profile is still visible, but their last-activity time is invisible, at least for regular members. I think that's what Crazed Rabbit was saying. This seems to confirm his theory that EMFM is innocent.

If the arrivederci-mafioso is still alive, it could be Wonderland. As Crazed Rabbit said, his voting record remains decent, mainly because he voted once for Lemur (who is still alive) and once for GG (who we can't really be certain about). To me, this doesn't say much one way or the other, since Wonderland missed a couple of voting sessions. My other suspect is Lemur, but I need to think about it more.

I'm afraid I can't tell anything definitive from my spreadsheet. I'm not sure how well it works when so few people are left alive. I'm going to hold off voting for the time being.

[Dooz]

This is crazy, I can't believe Lemur is still alive. How, after everything, am I a suspect and not him? Well, I give up. My vote is for him, one way or another, even if I get lynched. Do the right thing folks, don't kill an innocent Wonderland. I'm sure at this point, a post like this would seem suspicious, but I just don't care anymore. Freakin' exhausted.

vote: Lemur

[AggonyDuck]

AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Kommodus
Wonderland

There's five of us left and one of us is a member of the mafia. I'm willing to trust Crazed Rabbit on EMFM's innocence and I believe Wonderland is being truthful. This leaves Kommodus and Lemur left. For all I care the rest of you may lynch Lemur if you wish, but I'm going after someone else.

My vote is:
Vote: Kommodus

Sorry Kommodus, but the mafia has been close to perfect in his strategy and has kept us without any proper clues. Somehow I link this perfection to you. You are in a close to perfect position to deceive and mislead us all if you wish so. Of course this would mean that you have worked rather hard to deceive us, but I believe you would go to those lengths if you were a mafioso.

This is really a final desperate vote, that I don't expect the you others to follow. It is as likely that Lemur is guilty, but I am following my instinct here. Somehow it just feels like you are guilty to me.

[Dutch_guy]

There's five of us left and one of us is a member of the mafia.

When exactly did you prove your innocence, I seemed to have missed that ?

:balloon2:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

My suspects are Wonderland, Lemur, and, to a slightly lesser extent, Kommodus. (Not a vote)

I'll look around to find evidence convincing me of someone's guilt. If I can't, I suppose I'll have to go with Wonderland.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Kill kommodus. (not a vote)

Kill him nice and slow, as sharks with lazers are too good for him. Rip him limb from limb.

And, if the killings continue, kill lemur. But Kommodus first.

Everyone who've I've defended, trust me on this. I assure you that I have the best of reasons for believing in his guilt.

Look at his post; he's just waiting for someone to bandwagon on.

EMFM, Wonderland, AggonyDuck, trust me on this. I've defended you (well, Wonderland and EMFM, but I will defend AggonyDuck) I think Lemur's just a bad villager, but we can lynch him later if need be.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kommodus]

AggonyDuck, I really appreciate the compliment, but you’re off on this one.

Think about what we’ve seen from these mafia. With regards to the arrivederci-mafioso, well… I like history as much as the next Total War player, but not the time periods or cultures we’ve seen here. I’m actually a long-term MTW player who never bought RTW (let alone played the mods); I know almost nothing about ancient Thracian or Chinese culture. I didn’t even know what a rhomphaia was until I looked it up after the murder was posted.

With regards to the airplane/storytelling-mafioso, I’ve hardly written anything since college (except code and some technical documentation, that is). Really, I’ve just never been very artistic.

Please, don’t vote out of desperation. This is probably our last chance to get it right.

BTW Rabbit, you should know bandwagoning isn't my style; look at my voting history and you'll see that. Can't a guy have some time to think without being accused? I posted quickly because I was afraid people would vote for EMFM; he got a couple votes last time.

[Pannonian]

[I]Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Crazed Rabbit woke early in the morning, feeling as if a weight had been lifted from his shoulders. After all, he thought confidently, justice had been done.

...

It was Beirut himself who received the head of Crazed Rabbit. He groaned as he read the word carved into the forehead.

I guess Crazed Rabbit would have preferred the weight to have remained on his shoulders.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Kommodus, it's either you or Lemur, and I don't think it's Lemur. So that means you.

Trust me, people. Vote not for anyone but Kommodus.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kommodus]

Kommodus, it's either you or Lemur, and I don't think it's Lemur. So that means you.

Rabbit, I'd seriously like to know how you're so sure Wonderland is innocent. You said it was because he didn't "act" like a mafioso. Well, we've executed lots of people who we thought "acted" like mafia earlier, and been wrong about that. As I discussed with Silver Rusher earlier, it's really easy to make mistakes when trying to "psychoanalyze" people when you're not there in person.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Announcement:

This will be the last voting session.

If the mafia are still active after this execution, two more people will be killed, making the tally of alive people a meager two.

Rather than making this execution a double or allowing the dead people to come back and vote, as well as keeping in mind that Silver Rusher has patiently been waiting to start his game, I've allowed any surviving mafia to kill the final three innocents.

These are the possible results:

-If there are two mafiosi left now, the villagers have already lost, and this is just a formality.

-If there's one mafioso left now, the villagers can win the game by executing him.

-Also if there's one mafioso left now, he will win the game if he avoids execution this round.

Please keep that in mind when you vote.

[Kommodus]

Ok, I've given this some thought. Wonderland was accused of being the historically-themed mafioso. If he really were, he probably wouldn't have continued with the same style of kill; instead, this is more likely an attempt to frame him.

Therefore, I'm going to vote: Lemur, the only one left capable of masterminding all this (unless of course AD has us completely fooled, which I think is unlikely).

[AggonyDuck]

Well now Lemur has the deciding vote; he can either vote for Kommodus and get a tie or vote for himself/someone else get executed.

If he does vote for Kommodus, then EMFM has the deciding vote.

[Ignoramus]

The mafia will win. Oh well, well done to all the villagers who died seeking the murderers.

[Divinus Arma]

Voice from the Grave: Lemur is evil in eveeeeryyy gammmmmmmeee.

Booooooooo. Don't you seeeeeeeeeeee? Leeemur should always be slaaaaiiiiinnnnnnn. Killllll thhhheeeee LLLLeeeeeemmmmmmmuuuuurrrr.


https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7484/ghostpl7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Edit: Remember how in the beginning that Lemur said something like: please kill me Mafia, I don't want a gay-ass lynching? NOW HE SURVIVES TO THE LAST ROUND?!?!? Lynch his ass.

[Silver Rusher]

Rather than making this execution a double or allowing the dead people to come back and vote, as well as keeping in mind that Silver Rusher has patiently been waiting to start his game, I've allowed any surviving mafia to kill the final three innocents.
Heh, we don't even have enough participants yet. Which reminds me:

Anybody here who wants to play The Godfather Mafia, sign up now if you haven't done so already. We have about 10 places left.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

no get Wonderland!

[Lemur]

Vote:Kommodus. There's a reason we never saw a pattern ...

[GeneralHankerchief]

2-2 for Kommodus and Lemur. Unless any of you four switch, EMFM has the deciding vote.

[Kommodus]

There's a reason we never saw a pattern ...

Darn right; after game 2 correct voting techniques were common knowledge. You of all people would know that.

*groan* The Frontroom is doomed... ~:mecry:

[Silver Rusher]

GH, why don't you do a ghost vote like you did in Mafia I? :yes:

[Crazed Rabbit]

*groan* The Frontroom is doomed... ~:mecry:

Oh, I'll bet you're real distraught over that. :furious3:

Crazed Rabbit

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Vote: Kommodus.


:knight:

[GeneralHankerchief]

There were five left.

That was all that remained of this once-prosperous village of Peace and Love.

Five people, and the policemen.

These people watched as their fellow villagers died around. They had each been accused, had each gotten some votes. But they had survived. Up to this point, anyway.

During their voting they discovered a note from a mafioso saying that if anyone in the mafia was still alive after this vote then all the innocent villagers would be dead come morning (Just pray that there still weren't two mafiosi left).

And so these final five villagers, in a desperate vote, tried to save the Frontroom one last time. They had been an angry mob; they had been psychologists; that had been uncaring, and they had been humbled by God. But now they were five people in a really bad situation.

In the end it came down to two villagers - Lemur and Kommodus. Lemur because of his behavior and Kommodus because of his intelligence. Both (okay, well only Kommodus) had pled their cases, but really it came down to what people thought.

Chief of Police Beirut read them aloud.

"Lemur."

"Kommodus."

"Lemur."

"Kommodus."

...

...

...

...

...

"...Kommodus."

Kommodus, the condemned, emitted a huge groan as he trudged up the platform. He was face-to-face with the Chief of Police.

"Kommodus, you are hereby accused of murder. Do you have any last words?"

Kommodus nodded his head sadly. "Remember this day... and know that you are responsible for what happens now."

There was a terrible silence. Beirut then pulled the lever, dropping Kommodus into the pit.

There was a terrible scream.

There was a terrible silence.

Beirut addressed the final four. "Gentlemen," he began, "we can do nothing more than hope that we're all alive come tomorrow. Go home." And so they did, wary that tomorrow would either be salvation or the apocalypse.

Here is the voting total for Session 9:

Kommodus: 3 :skull:
Lemur: 2

~~~~~~~

Still alive:
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Wonderland

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418
Peasant Phill
Hiji
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink
Gertgregoor
Kommodus

~~~~~~~

Stay tuned to see what happens on the final day!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Stay tuned to see what happens on the final day!

Whenwhenwhenwhen??

Also you list Kommodus as still alive.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Edited a bit, thanks.

[Kommodus]

:shame:

All I ever did was try to help identify the mafia. Obviously I was less successful this time than last time. For that I apologize, and for that I've been punished.

Sorry guys. :skull:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

With a bit of good luck, Kommodus was the Mafia. With a bit of less-good luck, I might be murdered by a horde of rampaging Vogons...or shot with the Point of View gun. :dizzy2:

Mafia, please don't give yourself away until GH gets around to the big finale, kind of spoils the fun. :help:

[Pannonian]

Is there going to be a detailed writeup as with previous games?

[Ignoramus]

:wall: Oh No! After all this time it's been LEMUR! :wall:

[The Spartan (Returns)]

no its Wonderland!
if im right, you guys owe me a piece of chicken.

[Lemur]

Oh No! After all this time it's been LEMUR!
Funny how popular that cry has been in M3. The truth will out shortly.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The Spartan, I'll bet you anything you wish that it's not wonderland. How could it be, after I defended him?

I just hope it's not Lemur.

Crazed Rabbit

[Divinus Arma]

The truth will out shortly.

Funny. You made a similar statement in M3. Congratulations Lemur. Well played.

[Drisos]

How many times do I have to tell you people it is Lemur??!!:furious3: :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :furious3: :furious3: :no: :sweatdrop: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

why on earth is he still alive.. ?!?!?

[Dooz]

Seriously... I'm kind of in shock over the whole matter. Lemur should have been lynched the first second he started making those comments. I don't know what happened. If somehow he's not mafia, by golly I'll lynch myself.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. For the last mafioso had decided that it would be so. He sat in his lab, typing furiously at a keyboard. The final preparations were being made.

All day he typed, not caring what the other inhabitants of the Frontroom were up to. They would soon die, anyway. He only stopped working twice – once to get lunch, once a bit later on to deposit the remnants of that lunch into the sewage system. It was a very efficient procedure, mimicking the very efficient killer who used the procedure.

Finally, a little before sunset, the mafioso pressed the last key and turned his computer off. He made his way to the town square, where Chief of Police Beirut instructed the villagers to gather if nobody had been killed.

Once everybody (four people) was present, Beirut started to speak from the execution platform.

“Gentlemen,” he began, “nobody has been killed. It appears that the mafia are finally- finally…”

Someone had bounded up the steps and knocked Beirut out of the way. With a triumphant expression on his face, he began speaking. Dazed, Beirut looked up and saw who it was…

…

…

…Lemur.

“Well, how we all doing this evening?” Lemur shouted to the other three with an evil look on his face. Instantly they looked terrified.

“Apparently, not so hot, judging by all your faces. What’s the matter, did you hear some bad news?”

Lemur suddenly turned serious.

“Well, it’s about to get a lot worse. Because guess what? You didn’t kill me. Even when you had all the chances in the world; even when I was acting like an idiot; even when you were one vote away from saving everything…”

Evil_Maniac_From_Mars looked down in shame.

“You still didn’t kill me. You insulted me, oh yes, there was plenty of that, but no lynching for the Lemur! I guess you needed a whipping boy. Well, it doesn’t matter in any case because now I’m going to kill you all.”

AggonyDuck, dazed, finally spoke up. “Wait a minute, how did you do all this?!”

Lemur laughed. “What a pathetic attempt to extend your miserable lives. But very well, I’ll talk. After all, you don’t get any glory when there’s nobody around to give you it.

“I knew right away that old Sigurd Fafnesbane was on my case, snooping around. So I got rid of him first, with poison gas. Then my master plan began. First I acquired money, several key items, and whereabouts to make a factory. Killing all you weaklings in the process. I was delighted when The Spartan confessed to being a mafioso – it bought time for me. I didn’t have to research any more silly weapons and say that ridiculous word “Arrivederci” for a while.”

Now Wonderland asked a question. “Wait a minute, so there was no arrivederci killer?”

“No, it was all me. Just poor, lonely, Lemur. Well, not anymore. See, the reason that nobody was killed today was because I was too busy. Busy putting the finishing touches on my master plan.

Beirut knew he had one last chance. “There won’t be a master plan!” he roared, gun out, lunging for Lemur.

But Lemur was too quick, pressing a button. Out of nowhere several small, brown, long-tailed, big-eyed critters came and swarmed the beloved Police Chief while his citizens watched in horror. In a matter of seconds Beirut had completely disappeared.

“Little, robotic lemurs!” their namesake crowed. “Aren’t they beautiful? And the best part is they are impervious to anything that might harm them – even nuclear weapons. Oh, I forgot to mention – they multiply every hour.

“So, this world will become Lemurland while I rebuild civilization my own way in the stars. For you see, I’ve built a space station. And up there waiting for me are my wife, little lemurs, and several of the best people from the Babe Thread. So, I’ll say it one more time…

“Arrivederci, gentlemen.”

The inhabitants of the Frontroom watched in silence as Lemur strapped on a jetpack and flew off into the distance, cackling madly. Before they were destroyed by the creatures they saw a rocket flying into space. The mafia had succeeded.

Here is the final status list:

Still alive:
Lemur

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418
Peasant Phill
Hiji
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
Evil_Maniac_From_Mars
Wonderland

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink
Gertgregoor
Kommodus


Result:

“HEY, WAIT A MINUTE! EVERYTHING FREEZE!!!”

Everything froze. The little Lemurs had not finished killing their victims yet. It was the voice of God/General Hankerchief.

“OKAY, I’VE HAD MY FUN. WERE YOU FOOLED? ANYWAY, HERE’S THE REAL ENDING TO ALL OF THIS.”

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet.

Yesterday Chief of Police Beirut was demoralized when he received the head of his detective, Crazed Rabbit. The poor guy had uncovered nothing aside from the names of a few innocents who were soon to be killed off by the mafia.

Rabbit’s last message before he died was that AggonyDuck was innocent. Not like it mattered, since if Beirut revealed that he was in correspondence with the Detective then his cover would be blown. Best to just wait for the Detective to do it himself.

But Rabbit was dead, and with it his mostly useless information. Beirut had no idea who the mafia was, but the Chief of Police decided to do some snooping himself. The old general store out in the countryside seemed like a good place to start, it was right near the big explosion that killed SSNeoperestroika yesterday.

But when he arrived, he found that the general store was a big pile of ash. Apparently it wasn’t just close to the big explosion; it’s what exploded. Beirut groaned, sifting through the ash to try to find something, anything.

After about thirty minutes, something away from the ash caught his eye. It was a piece of paper that had drifted away, surviving the blast. Beirut picked it up; it looked a couple of days old.

“Proj. completed, in process of moving to launch site (cereal factory) – automated launch unless verbal shutdown given”

Automated launch? He didn’t like the sound of that. Beirut gunned his old cop car in the direction of the old cereal factory, way on the other side of town. The clock was ticking.

…

Once at the factory, he found the doors locked. After breaking them down, he found the factory, supposedly abandoned, was very much full of activity. The question is – what was being produced? Beirut figured that he’d try the offices.

After breaking down another door (this was fun!) he found a clue. Not what he was looking for but proof that at least one mafioso was down. A strange-looking dagger was in the corner of the office, with a note attached.

“Looks like it’s the end for me. Kill Rabbit with this tomorrow – it’s a katar. Persian weapon, very nasty. –Gert”

So. Gertgregoor was the “arrivederci” mafioso. The question was, who was the airplane mafioso? Who had engineered this entire operation and obviously planned to destroy the Frontroom, as well a big radius around it? Beirut looked for more clues, aware that he was running out of time. The noises in the factory were getting louder.

The central control room might have some answers, he reasoned. Once making his way there (and breaking another door down along the way), Beirut gasped at the sheer amount of machinery. Control panels lined the entire wall, and not all of it looked made for making cereal.

At the center of it all was an ordinary computer. Beirut, desperate, turned it on and found that no password was required to log on. Apparently this was the one thing that the mafioso had overlooked. Unless it was another trap.

Beirut browsed through the computer. “C’mon, tell me whether the mafioso’s dead or not!” He kept looking and finally found an interesting file.

“…Project nanite sweep v1.0 (FINAL) … authored by Kommodus06…”

Phew. Kommodus was the airplane mafioso, the mastermind. He was also dead. Things were suddenly a lot easier.

“…final launch set for September 5 at 1200 hours…”

1200 hours??? Beirut checked his watch.

“Great, so I have two minutes and one second.” One second later, just like in all the movies, the room began to flash red and an alarm went off. A pleasant woman’s voice, probably the sister of the woman who announced that Spaceball One had 5 seconds until self-destruct, came on the intercom.

“Nanites will spread in two minutes. Nanites will spread in one minute and fifty-seven seconds.”

Nanites! These little machine buggers would replicate… and replicate… and replicate until they swallowed up the entire planet! They had to be stopped! Beirut searched the entire control panel, and there it was. A big lever with the words “PROJECT SHUTDOWN” on it.

“Nanites will spread in one minute and thirty seconds.”

He ran over and pulled it.

“Verbal confirmation required to shut down.”

Beirut cursed out loud for forgetting the first note he read.

“Verbal readings do not match. Intruder alert. Intruder alert.”

All of a sudden a large robot entered the room, carrying a MAC-10. This was bad. Immediately it started firing at Beirut, who quickly dove for cover. The few free seconds he had he spent praying to General Hankerchief.

“You know, this wasn’t what I had in mind when I was hoping for some deus ex machina! A little help wouldn’t hurt here!”

But God/General Hankerchief was silent. Beirut was on his own.

For the next minute or so, Beirut played the role of the geeky kid in the school games of dodgeball as he tried to avoid the robot’s guns. Dodging left and right, double-feinting, it tired him out, but he stayed alive.

“Nanites will spread in thirty seconds.”

He couldn’t keep this up forever. First of all, he was getting really tired, and second of all if he didn’t pull something off he had thirty seconds to live. Heck, the world had thirty seconds to live. As he continued to dodge, he wished that he had his own gun with him.

“Nanites will spread in fifteen seconds.”

Waitaminute – he had his trusty axe! In a flash of inspiration, Beirut had an idea. But he would have to get this perfectly.

“Nanites will spread in ten seconds.”

Running for dear life, Beirut crossed the manual shutdown lever, diving for cover. The robot’s fire followed, messing up the outer shell of the control panel a little bit. Beirut then reared back and flung the axe at the robot – a direct hit! The robot’s head was split.

“Five.”

He rushed to pull the axe out.

“Four.”

The axe was pulled out, and he headed for the control panel.

“Three.”

He started hacking away at the panel, desperate to expose anything.

“Two.”

More hacking. Finally, an opening. Beirut raised his arms for the final blow.

“One.”

“You’re closed, woman!” With a mighty swing Beirut split a few wires, causing a minor explosion. The voice was finally silenced, the lights out. Success.

Beirut made his way out of the factory, a little bloody (one of the shots had clipped him in the shoulder), a lot tired, but nanite-free. He rigged some C4 to the building and blew it up in triumph. Finally he returned to the police station, where he called the four remaining villagers to gather in the town square. Once there, he addressed them for the final time.

“Gentlemen,” he began, “THE MAFIA ARE NO MORE!!!”

Everyone cheered. Beirut had saved the town and the world, but he didn’t tell the villagers that. After all, the balance of power (villagers annoying the much-maligned authority figure) needed to be kept. He couldn’t have people respecting him, all of a sudden.

And so, night fell in the Frontroom. Not all was quiet, because of the raucous party being held in one of the pubs. They were alive.

Here is the final status list. Congratulations to those who survived.

Still alive:
AggonyDuck
evil_maniac from mars
Lemur
Wonderland

Wrath of God:
Ianofsmeg16
Kralizec
diablodelmar
littlelostboy
Csar
Kagemusha
Stormcrow
Alexander the Pretty Good

Killed:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
discovery1
UltraWar
Zalmoxis
Tiberius
Silver Rusher
Sasaki Kojiro
B_Ray
Divinus Arma
Orb
Pannonian
Ice
Drisos
Cowhead418
Peasant Phill
Hiji
Crazed Rabbit
SSNeoperestroika

Executed:
Banquo's Ghost
Destroyer of Hope
The Spartan
Uesugi Kenshin
Ignoramus
Divine Wind
Reenk Roink
Gertgregoor
Kommodus

Result:
TOWNSPEOPLE VICTORY:medievalcheers:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That about wraps it up for Mafia III. Look for my writeup/commentary soon. Silver, I ask that you hold off on starting your game until you post it, otherwise we’ll have an angry chief of police on our hands. Thanks for playing, everybody!

[Kommodus]

My Commentary
(...or “Memoirs of a Mafioso”)
(...or “The Mafioso Manifesto”)

Well, the game is finally over. GeneralHankerchief will surely soon post his own commentary; however, I've decided to write about the game from my own perspective. Also, I've been dying to get this off my chest for a long time. I'd like to say congratulations to the villagers on a game well-played. To me, it's actually a great relief that it's over.

This is a long and probably overly-wordy commentary, but hopefully it explains a lot.


This is the story of two Mafiosi who had the game well in hand, yet spectacularly lost it in the end through a series of errors and miscommunications. These mistakes were shared by both Gertgregoor and myself.

Game Opening:

I was, of course, surprised to be selected as one of the mafia. I knew immediately our odds of winning were rather slim – we had more people to kill than any mafia team to date, and there was still the matter of the detective. Besides, I’d already identified myself as a threat to the mafia in the second game, and when I wasn’t killed, the townspeople would suspect me. I didn’t know anything about Gertgregoor, my partner, but he quickly suggested killing certain people, including Tiberius, Lemur, and anyone else who appeared to be following the game too closely, as well as several that knew him well.

Initially I didn’t have much of a strategy behind who to kill and who to vote for. I planned to make both my kills and votes mostly random, except that I would plan them in such a way that no one could use my own vote-indexing methods against me.

Turn 1:

Kommodus Killed: Sigurd Frafnesbane
Gertgregoor Killed: discovery1

Sigurd Frafnesbane’s death was a completely random selection. I felt bad about it, since he was new to the game and hadn’t even had a chance to play. Nevertheless, someone had to die, and the random dice-roll chose him. My chosen method of carbon monoxide poisoning didn’t quite come out in the tale that was eventually told. It didn’t matter, though, as this wasn’t a well-thought-out kill.

Gertgregoor wasted no time in drawing suspicion to himself with his bandwagon-jumping. After Sasaki called him out on a suspicious post, I tried to restrain him and prevent him from getting himself into further trouble. Fortunately, Sasaki’s accusation was lost and forgotten. It was this, and Sasaki’s persistent attempts at detective work, that convinced me he had to die. However, it wasn’t safe to kill him… yet.

Also, Gertgregoor suggested killing B_Ray and Zalmoxis, saying that either might be the detective. He thought he’d found a pattern in the way GH selected us, and they fit the pattern as well. I agreed and suggested killing B_Ray first while leaving Zalmoxis for later.

The Banquo’s Ghost bandwagon gathered steam quickly, and I was happy enough to watch it from a distance.

Executed: Banquo’s Ghost

Turn 2:

Kommodus Killed: UltraWar
Gertgregoor Killed: Zalmoxis

I decided that the random killing method wasn’t optimal, and selected UltraWar in an attempt to frame Ianofsmeg16. Tricking him into using a poisoned syringe was not completely original – I’ve seen that method used in a different story. It seemed particularly chilling. Meanwhile, Gertgregoor accidentally killed Zalmoxis instead of B_Ray.

It seems as if Destroyer of Hope is one of those players who are suspected because of their name alone. He always seems to get lynched without any good reason.

Executed: Destroyer of Hope

Turn 3:

Kommodus Killed: Tiberius
Gertgregoor Killed: Silver Rusher

It occurred to me at this point to try to make my kills fit into a larger and more continuous story. Using the money stolen from UltraWar, I wrote a tale in which the Mafioso tricked Tiberius into obtaining a key component of an EMP, and then killed him. The original story was a bit different – Tiberius was the bank manager and the Mafioso was posing as a CIA agent, claiming that the mafia would soon hit the bank, and that he wanted to lay a trap for them inside the bank. GH didn’t want to assign Tiberius a job, so he made some changes.

Gertgregoor and I hadn’t discussed his plan to kill Silver Rusher this turn. I was disappointed when I saw it, as I thought a highly suspected player like Silver should’ve been left alive to draw votes.

My plan to frame The Spartan, of course, went off far better than I could have imagined. His phony confession (out of spite, I assumed) gave a big boost to the mafia. Gertgregoor and I decided to go with it – after this point, even though he chose his own victims, I wrote the killing methods for both. This gave me even greater creative control, which I welcomed. My stories began to grow even more elaborate.

Executed: The Spartan

Turn 4:

Kommodus Killed: Sasaki Kojiro
Gertgregoor Killed: B_Ray

Gertgregoor originally suggested killing B_Ray, then switched to Lemur. I sympathized with Lemur’s predicament (his posts had made me laugh and feel sad at the same time), but the odds were still against us and this was no time for sentimentality. I talked him out of it and suggested he go with his original plan to kill B_Ray. Obviously he did (although I still wrote the Vespa Mandarinia killing method, inspired by Lemur’s request for killer bees).

Starting with this turn, I began to write my stories word-for-word in the way I wanted them to appear. The General, for the most part, obliged, although he made a few minor changes to B_Ray’s death. After this, I recognized elements he wouldn’t like and left them out of my stories. I think the rest of my kills were left completely intact.

The kill I used on Sasaki Kojiro had originally been intended for Crazed Rabbit; however, at this point I felt safe enough to kill Sasaki. Almost immediately I regretted leaving several clues in the story’s text. Eclectic/DA immediately suggested going back over what had been said by Sasaki and B_Ray. Would anyone resurrect Sasaki’s accusation of Gertgregoor? Would Sasaki recognize me as his killer?

Fortunately, suspicion was drawn in other directions (due to some wonderfully helpful detective work by certain people) and Uesugi Kenshin was executed. However, B_Ray did note his suspicion of Gertgregoor. This actually saved Drisos’ life, as we decided to keep him alive a little longer and let him draw suspicion.

What really surprised me in this round was how sure people were of UK’s guilt. Granted, there were good-sounding points made against him, and some of his defenses were weak, but it’s very hard to be certain of anything in the game of Mafia, especially through psychoanalysis.

Sasaki also did something more honorable than I would have, and refused to comment on his suspicions after death (not even in the traditional “whispers from the dead” way). Therefore, killing him off was safer than I thought. He actually seems to have partially started a trend; several of our victims thereafter refused to comment any further after death, although some continued to do so (most notably Silver Rusher and Crazed Rabbit).

Sasaki, your post was hilarious – I’d have given you your two buxom henchwomen, but I was trying to keep the story realistic.

Executed: Uesugi Kenshin

Turn 5:

Kommodus Killed: Divinus Arma
Gertgregoor Killed: Orb

I killed DA this turn because he’d outlived his usefulness; besides, I was able to make his death ironic, which was fun. (Yes, his death was inspired by the movie Saw, but I also had to think up Orb’s death.) DA had attempted much detective work, and although it was mostly off-base, no one was suspecting him anymore. Gertgregoor wanted to kill Drisos, but I convinced him that this was a bad idea, and he chose Orb instead. The story I wrote for Orb’s death was the longest to that point, and unfortunately not as interesting as I’d hoped. I intended that the “top-secret code” stolen from Sasaki would be used in arming the EMP.

Votes were split fairly evenly this turn, but Ignoramus ended up executed. I can’t remember why. This was also the turn in which GH killed off many of the lurkers with his “Divine Wrath” event. That was a help to the mafia, as it meant we had fewer to kill, but it also meant the villagers had fewer suspects.

Executed: Ignoramus

Turn 6:

Kommodus Killed: Ice
Gertgregoor Killed: Pannonian

Gertgregoor killed Pannonian, once again because he was a frequent contributor. I was beginning to feel that this strategy would come back to bite us if we kept it up, as I might soon be the only “threat to the mafia” left, which would put me in a highly suspicious position. I felt it was time to make a change, and start killing people who were unsuspected, starting with Ice.

Also this turn, Silver Rusher posted convincing arguments that Spartan had been lying about being in the mafia. I was surprised the deception had lasted at all; I immediately made a post supporting Silver, since I knew he would be believed.

As a result of this development, Gertgregoor went back to writing his own kills. We decided there was no point in continuing the deception. Also, with the death of Ice, I finally wrote about the use of the EMP. It actually wasn’t until this point that I chose nanoterrorism as my Mafioso’s ultimate plan, and once I had, the NASA Ames Research Center was a logical choice of target (though I had to research it a bit). I was pleased with how the story turned out.

The voting began with another rash of voting for Lemur. (He even voted for himself.) I, however, voted for Divine Wind, and soon a DW bandwagon started, with people switching their votes to him. At this point I still felt that a living Lemur would still be useful for drawing votes.

Executed: Divine Wind

Turn 7:

Kommodus Killed: Drisos
Gertgregoor Killed: Cowhead418

I originally planned to kill Cowhead418, but Gertgregoor convinced me to let him do the job, and that I should kill Drisos. He had wanted Drisos, who apparently knows him quite well, dead for a long time, but decided it would be too suspicious if the arrivederci-Mafioso killed him.

My motive for wanting Cowhead418 dead had little to do with the fact that he killed me in game 2. I simply killed him because he was one of the unsuspected players, and I thought he might eventually start accusing me.

This time I jumped on the bandwagon in voting for Reenk Roink. He didn’t defend himself very well; in fact, during his execution I thought he came close to pulling a “Spartan.” It was, of course, nowhere near as effective as Spartan’s deception. It might’ve helped if GG and I had gone back to me writing both kills, but we didn’t think of it.

Also this turn, Alexander the Pretty Good was killed under GH’s new anti-lurker policy. He’d missed three turns in a row.

Executed: Reenk Roink

Turn 8:

Kommodus Killed: Peasant Phill
Gertgregoor Killed: Hiji

This time, both our kills reflected our strategy of taking out the least-suspected players. Looking back, I’m not sure we made the right choices this time. I told GG he should kill either AggonyDuck, Hiji, or SSNeo; however, I told him that killing AD would probably bring suspicion on himself. He chose Hiji instead. Regardless, he ended up bringing more suspicion on himself than I could have imagined.

At this point in the game, I felt that we were set to coast to victory. All we had to do was avoid any major mistakes. However, Gertgregoor proved up to the challenge of torpedoing our chances (no offense intended to GG; I made plenty of mistakes as well).

This turn began with GG getting accused by Dutch_guy, and proceeding to make some extremely suspicious posts. What was worse, he brought up some powerful arguments against me – ideas that, surprisingly, everyone had overlooked before, and that I had hoped would stay buried. I understand his motive for doing this, but I don’t think it was necessary. If it hadn’t been for his carelessness, the blame would’ve easily fallen on Wonderland.

We decided to try to salvage the situation by portraying ourselves as enemies. I posted a strong anti-Gert message, and he voted for me. I was sure he would go down easily, but for some reason, AggonyDuck fought for him and I thought I saw a chance to save him. Myself, Gert, and our ally AD made for a total of three votes against Wonderland. I thought we were in the clear as I watched the normal 24-hour period run out.

Sadly, this was not the case. Here’s how the final voting went down (all times are GMT):


1. At 18:37, the 24-hour mark passed. At this point, the score was 4-1-1 for WL, GG, and EMFM. (At least I’m pretty sure of this, since I think Lemur’s initial vote for GG had been changed to WL at this point. He can correct me if I’m wrong.) I prematurely breathed a huge sigh of relief.

2. At 18:53, Lemur changed his vote to EMFM by post-edit, making the score 3-1-2 for WL, GG, and EMFM. This went unnoticed for a long time.

3. At 19:27, WL changed his vote to GG, making the score 3-2-2.

4. At 19:30, GH posted a message indicating the vote was tied. I noticed Lemur’s vote change, and sent GH a message indicating that the score was not tied. I think GH still thought Lemur’s vote was for GG.

5. At 22:00, EMFM voted for GG, assuming he was breaking a tie. This made the score 3-3-2.

6. GH posted WL’s execution under the assumption that Lemur’s vote had gone to WL. After reading my PM, he realized this was not the case and announced a re-vote.

7. As you know, Gertgregoor was executed in the re-vote. I changed my vote to him, thinking to salvage the original plan to portray myself as his enemy.


I felt that the mafia had caught a bad break this turn due to the voting anomalies. Nevertheless, I had no choice now but to proceed alone. I found myself wishing I had simply stuck to my guns and maintained my vote for GG the entire time.

Executed: Gertgregoor

Turn 9:

Kommodus Killed: Crazed Rabbit, SSNeoperestroika

Finally we get to the turn in which I spectacularly lost the game with some bone-headed maneuvering worthy of the Mafia Hall of Shame.

I decided on a change of plans; instead of letting everyone know that GG was a Mafioso and using his accusation of me as an alibi, I would write one of the kills in his style. There were two reasons for this:


1. Since I’d switched my vote to Wonderland, my alibi as GG’s enemy was damaged.

2. If it became too obvious that GG was guilty, then the people who had supported his execution all along would be the ones to look most innocent. That included Lemur and Wonderland – people who I wanted to appear as prime suspects. If this happened, the process of elimination would target me.


I had to look up some information on Persian culture, and make use of an online English-to-Persian translator, to write what I thought was a convincing GG-kill. Unfortunately, GG had one more monkey-wrench to throw into my plans (unintentionally). On Saturday morning, I notified him of the change of plans. However, he had apparently already asked GH to include the message “at least I died for a better cause” in his execution. By Saturday evening, when GH posted the execution, GG still hadn’t logged in and seen my message; as a result, his statement was included in the execution, making it clear he was guilty. Even after this, the game was not lost yet; I had a lot more blundering to do.

I sent my kills to GH early, and my decision to kill Crazed Rabbit was probably ill-thought. He was previously leaning heavily towards Lemur. The problem was that by the time he posted this, I had already sent my kills in. If I’d have been thinking, I’d have sent a hasty message off to GH to change the target (probably to AggonyDuck or EMFM).

Also during this turn, I asked GH how he would handle the endgame scenario if I was left alive with one remaining villager. He originally said he’d let the dead vote. I didn’t like this and asked for a double execution instead. In the end, the General was even more generous than I asked; he announced that if I survived the round, I would be allowed to kill the remaining three villagers. Unfortunately even this generosity wasn’t enough, as I proceeded to shoot myself in the foot.

I saw AggonyDuck’s post announcing he had a new suspect; immediately I knew it was me. “Uh oh,” I thought, “This isn’t good. If he names me I’m history.” I actually PM’d him under the guise of doing an experiment to verify Crazed Rabbit’s analysis of EMFM’s innocence. I hoped this would convince him of my innocence. Apparently it didn’t work; in fact, it may have solidified AD’s opinion of me.

Perhaps if I’d simply been quiet and let the people lynch Lemur, all would have been well. However, I made a post defending EMFM using the results of my experiment with AD. I was attempting to appear helpful, but Crazed Rabbit pointed it out as appearing to wait for a bandwagon to jump on. However, I think it was really AD who sealed my fate, making an unexpected switch and voting for me instead of Lemur or Wonderland. He had no evidence for doing so, but that was the point – I’d been too careful in my strategy. I had positioned myself almost perfectly to deceive everyone else and deflect all suspicion away from me. AD was the first to realize this, and his decision to vote for me was a stroke of inspiration.

After that, Lemur voted for me (which was a given), and EMFM was apparently convinced by the arguments of Crazed Rabbit and AggonyDuck. Thus the game ended. Congratulations to the successful villagers!

Executed: Kommodus

Game Outcome

On one hand, I lasted a lot longer than I thought I would, and it was a hard-fought game. On that level, I’m satisfied. On the other hand, we squandered a great chance at victory, both through what I perceived as Gertgregoor’s carelessness and my erroneous endgame strategies. On that level I’m disappointed.

As you know, I was writing a story which progressed with each kill. I had plans for the ending of it, which I will now never write. It involved unleashing a targeted nanobot plague on humanity (not all humanity, but specific individuals and groups). My Mafioso's plan was not actually to bring an end to the world - in a sick way he really was trying to "save" humanity from itself. I did my best to portray him as a dangerous, psychotic villain, with a warped and twisted philosophy that could make sense within a dark and cynical worldview.

The practical results of this game, of course, are that I’ll never be viewed the same way in a game of mafia here again. I’ve become known as a danger to the mafia and a danger to the villagers. Most games in the near future will probably see me slaughtered by the mafia early on (as in Sasaki’s game) or lynched by the villagers.

In addition, I think I devoted a bit too much time and thought to this game. It wasn’t a problem early on, when I thought we had little chance; but as the game progressed and victory became possible, I got a little caught up in the strategy. In the end, I found that I didn’t really like lying. When I was successful I frightened myself, and when I was unsuccessful I felt like a blunderer. I couldn’t help but feel a little guilty. For these reasons, I’m quite relieved that the game is finally over, and I’ve decided to take a step back from mafia games for a time.

Earlier in this game, when the General announced his wish to actually play in a game of mafia, I volunteered to administer one. I’ve actually played several games of mafia in real life, and found myself to be terrible at it, especially when it comes to being a Mafioso. I’m usually a lousy liar in real life, and people have no trouble discerning the changes in my behavior. However, I’ve found myself to be a creative and humorous narrator for the games, so I usually go for that role. Of course, there are still a couple of games going on right now, so I have no intention of starting a new one for quite some time.

I’d like to end with one final comment. Like Lemur in game 2, my views and behavior in this game have no connection to the way I am in real life. I avoid dishonesty, and have a pretty positive outlook on life. You’d probably like me if you knew me. If some of my kills seemed brutal and my lies diabolical, remember that I was writing a story, playing a game, and acting very unlike myself. I harbor no malice towards anyone I “killed,” nor towards those who ended my life.

Again, congratulations to the villagers, and especially to Crazed Rabbit and AggonyDuck, the ones who saw through my deception. This is a hard game for the mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I must say, Kommodus, you did a bang up job. The most suspicion I had of you was "Well if he was mafia we'd have no way of knowing because he's acting the same as in the last game".

Good game everyone, and General that first post was evil, lol.

[Sigurd]

As the game is now over I am lifting my self-imposed ban of posting.
It was truly an enjoyable game for one who is watching.
Sometimes I really wanted to participate and during the last phases of the game I suspected you Kommodus together with AggonyDuck for orchestrating a great symphony making the living dance to your tunes. I was actually chuckling reading what I thought was play for the galleries in the thread and in the chat room…
In reality it was only half the truth.


Well done!

[Moros]

I'm great at blundering. And yes I also behaved a lot different then in the real life. If it was real I probably would have done some more thinking ~;)

Meh.

Oh well quite a nice game, tough I regret the fact that GH didn't allow me to kill people by dropping whales ontop of them from out an aeroplane. (At the beginning I wanted to do verry bizarre deaths, but that probably would have ben to obvious.)

It's all DG's fault! He's really good, frightening almost...Tough most of his reasons were wrong or not true he again found a mafioso.

[Lemur]

I kinda liked the first version, where I run off to my evil space lair. Heh, GH, you really had me freaked for a minute while I read that. A part of me was saying, "Hey, he can't make me into the mafia at the very end! What about the real mafia? Won't they be upset?"

Very funny, very well done. And a very well played game for all, especially our diligent mafia boys. It's a very different game when you're the mafia, isn't it?

[Drisos]

I'd say... Well done, Kommodus. you were the last one I expected to be the mafia..

so it wasn't Lemur after all.. bad :embarassed: and he's still alive as well...:wall: :furious3: :oops:

this one was !very! intresting.. I'll surely keep playing mafia games :balloon2: :book:

[AggonyDuck]

Oh my god....I actually got something right! Thank you instincts! ~:cheers:


I saw AggonyDuck’s post announcing he had a new suspect; immediately I knew it was me. “Uh oh,” I thought, “This isn’t good. If he names me I’m history.” I actually PM’d him under the guise of doing an experiment to verify Crazed Rabbit’s analysis of EMFM’s innocence. I hoped this would convince him of my innocence. Apparently it didn’t work; in fact, it may have solidified AD’s opinion of me.

Your PM actually made me doubt for a while and my logic was saying that you were innocent. But luckily I went with my instincts.

Either way the real saviour here is Crazed Rabbit. He really brought my suspicions on you Kommodus, because everyone we were trying to go after was innocent according to him. But even then I was still doubting my suspicions.

Also I am horribly ashamed of my attempts to protect Gertgregoor. Teaches me not to trust what people say, especially when I ask them to say it to me....:wall:

Anyways it was damned well played by the Mafia, you had me chasing windmills to the end.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Yeeeeessssss!!!!!!!!!

In death, I managed to help save the village!

A note to Kommodus about my suspicion of Lemur near the end:
I was just faking any suspicion towards him, as I knew the real mafia was either you or AggonyDuck, and I hoped that you guys wouldn't kill me off. Almost succeded as it turns out.

On an unhappy note, I must be the unluckiest detective ever. Not once did I find a mafia. But the villagers won! Hurray! And all those who trusted me (and voted for B's Ghost) can now rest easy.

Crazed Rabbit

[Moros]

Also I am horribly ashamed of my attempts to protect Gertgregoor. Teaches me not to trust what people say, especially when I ask them to say it to me....:wall:
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The chatroom is the mafia's strongest weapon. Never forget that. There's nowhere you can convince people then over there.

[AggonyDuck]

The chatroom is the mafia's strongest weapon. Never forget that. There's nowhere you can convince people then over there.

You abused my belief in the integrity of people. :no:

But luckily my not so naive fellow villagers got you. Thank you all.

[Moros]

my belief in the integrity of people.
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Kommodus]

Very funny, very well done. And a very well played game for all, especially our diligent mafia boys. It's a very different game when you're the mafia, isn't it?

Sure is. Gah. I'd rather be a villager. :sweatdrop: Although the story-writing part was fun.


Your PM actually made me doubt for a while and my logic was saying that you were innocent. But luckily I went with my instincts.

Well, I guess there's not much I could've done about that. Although most of the time people's instincts helped us in this game.

BTW, when I told you I had scarcely written since college (except code and technical documentation), I was afraid that would be exposed as false, as I do have an old story here in the Mead Hall. Apparently no one could find it. The part about me not being artistic was also a bold-faced lie. Sorry.

Anyway, you should keep believing the best about people. However, when you're playing a game in which the whole point is to "deceive, inveigle, and obfuscate", it's a completely different matter.


I was just faking any suspicion towards him, as I knew the real mafia was either you or AggonyDuck, and I hoped that you guys wouldn't kill me off. Almost succeded as it turns out.

You know, I figured this was true as soon as I found out you were the detective. My commentary is written from an in-game perspective. As the number of villagers dwindled, I became convinced we had knocked off the detective much earlier.

It certainly makes me feel better, though, to know that you were the detective. I don't feel quite so bad about my endgame blunders. Although, perhaps if I'd killed you instead of Sasaki (as I originally intended), the game might've turned out differently.

[Silver Rusher]

A round of applause for Kommodus and Gert, everyone!:cheerleader: :shakehands: ~:cheers: :2thumbsup:

Guys, I must say, that was some of the best mafiosery I have ever seen. You guys had me completely convinced! You're right, Gert, the chatroom was what did it for you, but it didn't stop me or Orb from dying in Gotta have more mafia :no:. I hope, but am doubtful, that the mafia in my game will be this brilliant.

Another round of applause for the villagers who saved the shattered remains of the frontroom!:cheerleader: :shakehands: ~:cheers: :2thumbsup:

You guys really were hanging by a thread. In fact, in that last round with 5 remaining and 1 in the mafia, you had a 1 in 5 chance of picking them out, and you did it! I don't think this was luck, though. You picked up on Kommodus' slight, barely noticeable mistakes and it allowed you to survive to the end.

And last but not most definitely not least, a round of applause for GeneralHankerchief!:cheerleader: :shakehands: ~:cheers: :2thumbsup:

GH, what can I say? You have taken this party game and turned it into a tremendously fun, superbly tactical and investigative and most of all captivating thread of genius which is sure to leave a legacy upon the frontroom. This game in particular was by far the best so far. Full of uncertainty, terror and everyone at eachothers neck with arguments, some of which seem pathetic looking back on the game (my arguments in particular actually, except for the one about The Spartan). I don't think I can hope to be as good a host for these games as you ever were.

As I look back on this game, I feel horribly embarrassed about many of the arguments that I have made. Not only that, but also (thanks to that cursed chatroom) I defended both of the mafia after making spot-on accusations of them! (in the case of Kommodus it was more in connection to Reenk Roink though)

Boo me! Throw tomatoes at Silver Rusher! He was constantly posting after his death, but he only made one single useful contribution (and I must admit, there is a lot of shame surrounding my allegations of The Spartan's innocence but I will not reveal how). :furious3: ~:pissed: :tomato: :tomato2:

[littlelostboy]

:laugh4: I can't believe the people here are at each other throats. That' why I just sit back and sip my cup of tea... until my dear "God" struck me down. At least I'm in heaven.... :laugh4:

[Crazed Rabbit]

You know, I figured this was true as soon as I found out you were the detective. My commentary is written from an in-game perspective. As the number of villagers dwindled, I became convinced we had knocked off the detective much earlier.

It certainly makes me feel better, though, to know that you were the detective. I don't feel quite so bad about my endgame blunders. Although, perhaps if I'd killed you instead of Sasaki (as I originally intended), the game might've turned out differently.

I know. I was almost completely offline while it took the college techies a whole week to fix my computer and get it running on the network here.

You were masterful as a mafia, though. My last investigation was of AggonyDuck, he came out as innocent, so I knew it was you. Before that I didn't know if it was you or him. I think you would have a much better chance had I been killed earlier. EMFM might have been bandwagoned, my detection results would have yielded only a few innocent, largely now dead, villagers, etc.

Unfortunately, you killed me off (in a very brutal way I must say :inquisitive:) but I refused to go quietly, as it were. I was afraid that my defending of half the village the earlier round would make me a target, but I figured that by that time I needed to do something to help save the village. I was not certain gert was guilty, but he was the prime suspect (and you actually were next on my spreadsheet, but I didn't investigate you). I think my defense of EMFM and Wonderland helped in the final round. I was able to use the trust I gained to try and persuade them to go after you.

Also, I was surprised people trusted me on EMFM so easily. I didn't have any concrete proof, just my word, as it were, which turned out to be enough.

As a side note, during these last few rounds, I sent several PMs to people (I did not reveal myself as detective) to persuade them, and I think this helped. It certainly did with Silver Rusher, who went from declaring victory at the immenent death of Wonderland to not accusing anyone. You did a good job picking apart The Spartan's lies, but I will admit some frustration when you went after people I knew to be innocent.

After I saw Wonderland's execution, I was very frustrated. Had he died, there would be no chance for villager victory. Luckily, GH exercised his heavenly powers and saved him, and everyone went for gert, which was much different than what I thought might happen.

I like to think I was somewhat useful as detective, and that my end game blitz at Kommodus helped.

Three cheers for a great game and GH!

Crazed Rabbit

[Sasaki Kojiro]

btw CR, who did you investigate?

[Kommodus]

Unfortunately, you killed me off (in a very brutal way I must say :inquisitive:)

Yeah, I apologize for this. That was my attempt to replicate a Gertgregoor-style kill. Since I really don't know much about ancient history, I did a search on Wikipedia for "ancient weapons." Looking through the short list of mostly-mundane items, I happened to click on "katar," and the rest was history. (Although I still had to look up Persian culture to find out about the Chinvat Peretum, and use an English-to-Persian translator to find suitable words in Persian.) Even the cigarette at the end was a GG-inspired detail, as I don't smoke.

EDIT: I don't think anything was more brutal than what I did to poor Sasaki. Tortured with a blowtorch - ugh! And then there was B_Ray: from what I've read, stings from Asian giant hornets are excruciating! That just gives me the shivers. My mafioso was a twisted, heartless villain!

[Kagemusha]

Great game guys! While my Villager tactics were destroyed by the Wrath of Gods .I really enjoyed watching this game. My tactics was to keep silent and study what others were doing in order to reveal the Mafia. But i kept my silence for so long that, instead keeping myself alive long enough i was struck down by the Gods.:end: In next game i need a new approach.Cant wait for another one to start.Great job guys!:2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

My commentary/writeup. It's long, and some of it overlaps, but it's informative.

Session 0


Mafia: Kommodus and Gertgregoor
Detective: Crazed Rabbit

I laughed when I picked the mafia out of a hat. First of all we had Kommodus – a mafia veteran and one of the heroes of the Frontroom in the last game. Then we had Gertgregoor – A newbie to the game who, judging by a couple of posts in the Talk Your Own Language Thread, really wanted to outlast Drisos. Immediately the opposites showed themselves, with Gert PMing me several questions on how the game was run/how he was to send his kills and Kommodus getting right into the flow of things, giving me his first kill, story already pretty much written out.

The mafia’s opposite in this game was Crazed Rabbit, who had played in the other two games with mixed results. I wondered if he would be as successful as Tiberius, the Detective in Game II.

All in all I really liked the cast, although a couple of notable vets were missing. Dutch_guy was away, and Craterus had left the Org at that time. Oh well, I still knew that this would be an exciting game.


Session 1


Kommodus kills Sigurd Fafnesbane Gert kills discovery1
Crazed Rabbit investigates Ignoramus

Poor Sigurd. This was the first time I really didn’t want to see somebody else killed – I hate having a newbie come to play only to die in the first round.

I was mildly surprised when Gert told me that “arrivederci” was to be a recurring theme. On one hand, there was a possibility that somebody might figure out who was behind it. But on the other hand, I realized that the mafia could manipulate its presence/lack thereof to their advantage. Btw, I had to look the spelling of that word up in order to make sure that I got it right.

Once again I watched and chuckled to myself as the villagers stumbled all over themselves in executing Banquo’s Ghost. Guys, with the first execution it’s a good bet that you’ll lynch an innocent. So don’t kid yourself – the only purpose for the first execution is to keep the game moving on.

One last note: I realized that Kommodus was already outsmarting his spreadsheet by voting for a non-bandwagon candidate.

Executed: Banquo’s Ghost


Session 2


Kommodus kills UltraWar Gert kills Zalmoxis
Crazed Rabbit investigates The Spartan

This marked the beginning of two recurring themes: Kommodus starting his master plan and Gert killing somebody with an ancient, exotic weapon.

Really nothing that happened here was too special. DoH got a ton of votes, but had not posted since saying that he wanted to play. As a matter of fact, that was his only post in the game.

Finally, four people were really standing out as good villagers who tried to find the mafia: Sasaki Kojiro, Divinus Arma/Eclectic, B_Ray, and Pannonian. They had done this in a variety of ways; openly suspecting people and challenging them on their posts, and asking me questions on how I ran things/rules of the game.

Oh yeah, and this is the point where Lemur said he wanted to die an interesting death. The suspicions begin anew… :laugh4:

Executed: Destroyer of Hope


Session 3


Kommodus kills Tiberius Gert kills Silver Rusher
Crazed Rabbit investigates Pannonian

(Note: I wrote this section WAY before anything else so a lot of the information is probably known already)

Here you go SR, your original way of dying before I made Gert change it:


I'll kill Silver rusher. By dropping a whale on him from out my aeroplane. Then I'll write in smoke letters i the sky the infamous word.

Note that how later on during Hiji’s death there was a “whale blocking Tosa Ave.”

Things got really interesting here. First of all, Gert killed Silver Rusher, who was under a lot of suspicion during the time. It only got weirder from there. Due to Tiberius’ after-death note, suspicion immediately fell under The Spartan. He tried in vain to turn the execution to Csar.

Facing almost certain execution, Spartan pulled perhaps the weirdest move ever in a Mafia game: He “admitted” that he was a mafioso.

I have no idea why he did this; this is his explanation.


this will either one, mess up the mafia, or two confuse the villagers. i hope the mafia mess up.

Don’t ask me how it would do this. My personal opinion at the time was that he would give the mafia the same effect that Sasaki gave the Detective the last game – carte blanche. The mafia shared my sentiments. Immediately Gert PM’d me to say “no more arrivederci” (If you recall, Spartan confessed to all the “arrivederci” deaths). In any case, there was instant rejoicing, mixed with some confusion, plus a little suspicion.

A smart villager could put the pieces together and discover that Spartan was not a mafioso. First of all, the “PM” that he posted pretending it was from me. In it, he forgot to type the word “mafia.” Also, as any present or past mafioso would tell you, I do not list the titles of the thread or put a balloon in my PM. Next, I explicitly put in the PM that you are not allowed to reveal your identity until the game is finished. This was stated publicly by me as well as picked up on by Orb and a few others. Finally, I try to make it so it’s the “good of the team” over the individual’s result. Those would give the past mafia an advantage in determining Spartan’s innocence.

Anybody else could see where I posted that the mafia was not allowed to reveal themselves, too. Finally, I put in a hint in the execution scene.


Beirut looked him in the eyes for a moment, then shrugged.

Not exactly what you would do to a true mafioso, would it?

In any event, Crazed Rabbit would have a fun time convincing everybody that Spartan was innocent when it was time to reveal. Unless of course, other people figured it out.

Executed: The Spartan


Session 4


Kommodus kills Sasaki Kojiro Gert kills B_Ray
Crazed Rabbit investigates Alexander the Pretty Good

Ah, the aftermath of The Spartan’s “confession” started immediately. I knew right away when Gert PM’d me his kill that Kommodus wrote it. After all, go back and check the kill (which is pretty much in the form that it was sent to me) as compared to one of Gert’s previous PM’s:


I want to kill Zalmoxis this time.
hmmm let me think.
He will be killed using a falx after I lured him in to a small room using a pretty girl. (you'll make something up?)
before he dies I say: Now Zalmoxis yu can actually see if the soul is immortal or not. (cf the thracians' Zalmoxis.)
As I wakl out the room I light up a sigaret and say the famous words.

I’m not making fun of the guy; he’s not a native English speaker. Just pointing out the differences. And in case you’re wondering why I don’t put up an example of Kommodus’, all his later kills were just copy & pasted into the thread.

Thanks to a bit of detective work by the two remaining members of the Fantastic Four, as well as a terrible job of defending himself, Uesugi Kenshin was executed in a landslide. I remember some people thinking that the game was over. Heh. How wrong they were.

Executed: Uesugi Kenshin


Session 5


Kommodus kills Divinus Arma Gert kills Orb
Crazed Rabbit investigates SSNeoperestroika

First of all, the roles were switched up a bit. A few rounds earlier Kommodus told me that he had a “hilarious” death for DA planned, but said it didn’t fit with the main story. So this time he had Gert kill Orb with the latest part in the plan while he Jigsawed DA to death.

There were two bits of irony in this: First of all, DA died laughing, signifying that UK was innocent. Second, Kommodus’ title of Airplane-mafioso came from Orb’s kill, although technically Gert was the one who killed Orb.

Meanwhile, I realized what the mafia was doing – killing off the Fantastic Four. In doing so, the main posters in the game were gone, leaving me with the danger that the game might end with a thud. Kommodus PM’d me to apologize for doing it and Pannonian PM’d the other members of the Fantastic Four/me tossing suggestions back and forth on what to do. I finally decided on a drastic move, but one that might save the game. Plus, I got to feed my ego a bit.

During the execution (which was Ignoramus), I, in the form of God, killed six lurkers in a move that would come to be known as the Wrath of God. Five of them were from Pannonian’s list of inactive players plus Ianofsmeg16, who PM’d me earlier requesting to be suicided. Out of the list, Hiji and Alexander the Pretty Good were spared, mainly because I didn’t want the game to end too quickly.

IMHO this saved the game, as all of a sudden there was a spur of activity. I have no idea why… :evil:

Executed: Ignoramus


Session 6


Kommodus kills Ice Gert kills Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit investigates Peasant Phill

Well, “arrivederci” was back on. Thanks to Silver Rusher’s post back in the last session about Spartan’s innocence(which I confirmed to him in the chat after he posted it – or maybe it was before, but he had already told me his suspicions, I can’t remember), people had started to realize the truth and Gert went back to writing his own kills.

At this point, for whatever reason, people started gunning for the much-maligned Lemur again. I kind of felt sorry for the poor guy because the mafia was obviously leaving him hanging, but mostly I was amused. Silver went 0-for-2 in his thoughts on Lemur’s role. It was looking bad, but Lemur fought his way out of a huge hole and started posting very sarcastic, defeatist responses. Somehow, this had worked and the lynch went to Divine Wind and his bizarre Snowman of Death.

Also around this time Dutch_guy, who wasn’t even playing, once again proved his freakish accuracy with Gert, the first time either of the mafia I think was seriously accused. Guys, listen to him. He knows what he’s doing.

Once DW got the axe I received a couple of predictions. The first one, from Sasaki, was PM’d to me.


Lemur and Crazed Rabbit for Mafia.

AggonyDuck for detective.

Silver, on another forum thought it was Kommodus and Reenk Roink, but this probably changed several times.

My private prediction at this point that it would be a sure mafia victory, if not a Total mafia victory. Crazed Rabbit was still alive but extremely unlucky; his information was pretty much worthless at this point. The mafia had a couple more rounds to survive, but really I thought they had it in the bag at this point.

Executed: Divine Wind


Session 7


Kommodus kills Drisos Gert kills Cowhead418
Crazed Rabbit investigates Drisos

At this point in the game I was waiting for Rabbit’s name to come up on the kill list. Especially after the fact that he had investigated Drisos, Rabbit just seemed fated to be unlucky. But he survived for another round.

After the Wrath of God, there really weren’t this many people left in the game, so I believe that everybody was accused at some point in this round (except, oddly enough, Rabbit – I wondered why the mafia didn’t take him out).

Apparently Reenk Roink’s list had angered enough people in order to execute him, though, and the mafia survived another round. One more round and they would clinch victory. I was just wondering whether they would manage a Total Victory or just a plain victory.

At this point they would need to totally collapse in order to let the villagers win.

Executed: Reenk Roink


Session 8


Kommodus kills Peasant Phill Gert kills Hiji
Crazed Rabbit investigates Wonderland

Rabbit survived another bullet, although once again he didn’t get what he was looking for. He was now 0-for-8 in investigations, although later on this one would actually be helpful.

I think it was around here that AggonyDuck took up the role of the long-departed Fantastic Four. His sensible posts combined with Gert’s posting while drunk (NEVER a good idea) drew some heavy suspicion on him. The fact that he was accusing Kommodus and bringing up some pretty good points forced Kommodus to do some damage control and vote for Gert.

I couldn’t believe it. They were so close to winning. It’s like they were a champion racehorse that was way out in front, but broke its leg right before the finish line.

Still, they had a chance. Suspicion eventually went to Wonderland and Evil_Maniac_From_Mars, and the two retracted their votes for each other (Personally Kommodus, there was so much vote-changing in that round I don’t think your enemy as Gert’s enemy was damaged). Then came the vote-tallying fiasco.

I still don’t know the exact order of events, and probably never will, no matter how many times anyone tries to explain it to me. All I know is that first I overlooked Lemur’s edit, and then forgot to include Crazed Rabbit’s vote in the tally. I realized that I had wrongfully executed Wonderland – on his birthday, no less!

So after a little bit of divine intervention, I called a re-vote. It might have been a little unfair to the mafia but really, it was the only thing to do. Gert picked up a couple more votes and Kommodus, sensing defeat, went with the bandwagon.

Okay, so he lost his partner, but he could still pull himself through, right?

Executed: Gertgregoor


Session 9

Kommodus kills Crazed Rabbit and SSNeoperestroika
Crazed Rabbit investigates AggonyDuck

Rabbit was pretty much desperate at this time. First of all, he asked me flat-out how many mafiosi were remaining. I told him I couldn’t tell him, and waited for his investigation (Kommodus had sent his kills at this point).

A few hours later, he sent it.


Goodnesss, I've got the very worst luck. Luckily, I only have three suspects.

I pick AggonyDuck.

Please, let me be right.

Crazed Rabbit

After sending my response (“Sorry. :no:”), I waited for Rabbit to receive it. I would give him one chance to reveal himself; to post what he knew. I watched his user profile as he got the PM, checked the thread, and logged off. He didn’t reveal himself, so I posted the death of the Detective. Apparently he had made some friends by defending his known innocents, so his influence wasn’t completely gone.

At the same time, Kommodus was asking me how the game would end if he survived this round – after he killed, there would only be two people left. We threw a couple of ideas of things I had done in Mafia I back and forth, but as a sort-of “make up” to the mafia for allowing a re-vote as well as out of a desire to finish this, I decided to just let him kill all three.

I realized this wouldn’t be very fair to the villagers without warning them, though, so I posted that announcement. At that point they were hemming and hawing, but had nothing concrete.

At this point, I think a terrible indecision came over Kommodus that ultimately doomed him. He had voted for Gert, but switched it, but switched back to Gert, making it appear to me that he was going with the “Gert’s a mafioso, I went against him” approach. But then looking at his kills he decided not to go with that approach, making it seem to me that he wasn’t sure how to finish up. K, you played it great all the way through but I think if you were a bit more decisive at the end you would have won.

Despite everything that had gone wrong the previous two rounds, Kommodus still had an extremely good chance of winning – after all, there was only a one-in-five chance of him being executed. Even when AggonyDuck posted a pretty good reason for getting him, it still seemed hopeless for the villagers, until K voted for good ol’ Lemur. That meant that Lemur, facing execution, really had no choice but to vote for Kommodus. That left it 2-2, with the fate of the game in the hands of Evil_Maniac_From_Mars.

EMFM gave no reason for voting Kommodus, he only put in a knight smiley in his post. I guess it was his trust in Rabbit for defending him that won the day. Amazed at the turnaround, I posted the final execution.

Executed: Kommodus


Game end

Instantly after Kommodus’ execution people were doomsaying about the fact that Lemur was still alive – surely he was the mafia, the Frontroom was gone. Laughing at this, I typed up a fake execution where Lemur was the mafia and he infested the world with robotic little lemurs while he lived with the people from the Babe Thread in space. Just a humorous, shocking ending before the real execution was posted. I hope it got at least one person.

That still left K’s plot to be resolved, though. I thought it was a waste of a good story just to have all those nanites lying in stasis forever so I had Beirut play secret agent and blow up the factory. My goal was to provide a satisfying ending while leaving you guys in suspense for as long as I could. I was pretty happy with the result.

Guys, thanks for playing and being involved in Mafia. It really makes my day when I log on and see that somebody’s been accused with “evidence” and that person is vigorously defending himself, etc. I hope you’ll continue to play further along and I apologize to all those in the chat who don’t feel like talking about the game but are forced to listen to people going back and forth about innocence. :tongue:

That about does it for Mafia III. Soon I’ll be playing Silver Rusher’s game and hopefully survive longer than three rounds. Look for Mafia IV when Sasaki’s finishes up. Thanks for playing!

[Crazed Rabbit]

I investigated:
Ignoramus
Peasant Phill
Drisos
Alexander the Pretty Good
Wonderland
SSNeoperestroika
AggonyDuck
Pannonian
The Spartan - I investigated him before the round where he got executed, so I was surprised he 'confessed' but I couldn't prove he was lying then. Luckily, others did it for me.

And maybe another that I forgot. Also, using my PM time analysis, I thought another 10 or so people were innocent, but 5 of them got purged in the wrath o' GH.

And Kommodus, I think yours was the only kill-in all the mafia games-that actually made me a bit queasy. Of course, it didn't help that it was happening to poor old me. But I would have preferred another steamroller.

Crazed Rabbit

[AggonyDuck]

Thank you all for a wonderful game. I have a both died first and survived the whole game now. ~:)

[Crazed Rabbit]

For some reason, I usually tend to survive to almost the last round, then get killed by the mafia.

To GH- after I had been killed, and I saw EMFM's post where he was leaning towards Wonderland, I PM'ed him, urging him to vote Kommodus.

Crazed Rabbit

[Pannonian]

Can someone explain the Chinese characters from earlier in the game? They eventually changed to Guandao, but previously (before GH changed them) they were Heji and Jeijian (au revoir), alluding to Hiji and arrivederci.

[Moros]

Jeez, I forgot how short most of my kills were tough at the end I finally did some writing lol. too bad GH removed some of my references and chinese, but well that didn't matter much. I was a bit surprised about the reasons people suspected me. For example being involved with EB, never did history stuff for EB, I bet I'm the one who knows the least of history of the whole EB team. And I tought that poeple really wouldn't think about me if it involved history. As at the frontroom I guess I'm more known for talking dutch, liking pie, spamming a bit, laughing with canadians, dutch and chinese and nonsense...
I believe I did left some clues in some of my murders and stuff that might point at me. Or other stuff but they usually weren't even noticed or ignored. (Nobody did the effort to really examine them it seems.) Tough my first kills were quite vague and short my latter ones most were written out a quite a lot. They were edited alot by GH tough. (grammar spelling, odd sentences, better storry telling...). But oh well I guess I gave it all away at the end so...

One last thing tough, I haven't been drunk. I've posted this before but I would never go online while being drunk. After already making some apparantly suspicious post (the misunderstanding of investigeting only made it worse) I decided to give it one more go and try to convince people. First I convinced them I was drunk. Making them less suspicious. And then I convinced them off my innocence in the chat. Sorry for this Agonny but it's just a game, a dirty game. To bad Silver Rusher was dead or I might have made it. I almost survived the round which would make a victory mathematically certain. But well that re-vote killed me. And well I had lost all hope as I figured I pointed a bit to much at kommodus. (Wanted him to look innocent in case I was about to die. But after miscommunication, revoting and vote swapping this had lost it's affect) Therefore those arguments only made Kommodos more suspicious.

One last thing tough the reason I killed Silver was because he requested a goofy death. And I did came up with one bizarre ne as GH told you. Tough I wasn't sure if it was a good idea or not as I'm known to be a bit bizarre. I did still make a reference tough. (a lot later but I made it.)

Btw: GH, no offence taken, me english is bad, known fact.