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At last, I have a way to arm my children at bedtime! Behold! The Armor of God PJs (http://www.armorofgodpjs.com/)!
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/home.jpg
Justiciar
08-22-2006, 21:49
Gots ter gets me some o' those!
You too can protect your kids from the evils of the world,
for only $39.95 (plus shipping)!
I love the fact that you get a free New Testament with every PJ purchase. Not a full Bible, just the New Testament. Do they not want to subject kids to the fire and brimstone Old Testament stuff, or maybe the Old Testament is just a bit too, um, Jewish for the kinds of people who would buy this stuff. Couldn't find any info on the version you get, be interesting to know.
I wonder if these are fire-retardant, or are the parents and purveyours relying on the will of God to keep the children from emulating the Burning Bush? :inquisitive:
Looks like something Ned Flanders would get his kids.... :laugh4:
AntiochusIII
08-22-2006, 22:32
It doesn't help that the kid to the right looks like a dork who'd grow up to be a full-blown 1331-wannabe, WoW-crazed, pwnager idiot -- as is particularly plausible in stereotypical middle class families of great religious qualities -- at fifteen. :sweatdrop:
...and he'd probably be wearing that to play Dark Age of Camelot or something...
Don Corleone
08-22-2006, 22:38
Hehehehe, stupid Christians. Hehehee, let's make fun of them, they're all that we still can.
What do you care if somebody reads the bible and actually espouses the metaphors and teachings held within? Man, talk about ugly.
It's okay to have your kid in Snoop Dog pajamas or any other current entertainment icon, but you're an unfit parent if you dare to use religious symbolism.
Reenk Roink
08-22-2006, 22:39
So? :shrug:
You guys don't have a problem with Power Ranger jammies do you?
Hehehehe, stupid Christians. Hehehee, let's make fun of them, they're all that we still can.
What do you care if somebody reads the bible and actually espouses the metaphors and teachings held within? Man, talk about ugly.
It's okay to have your kid in Snoop Dog pajamas or any other current entertainment icon, but you're an unfit parent if you dare to use religious symbolism.
Hm, you're taking this a bit seriously.
I don't allow my children to wear any sort of brand clothing. Heck, I won't put on a shirt that has a Nike swoosh. Branding is silly. Why should I pay someone to give them free advertising?
These PJs, on the other hand, are hilarious. The subject of the joke is neither Christianity nor Jesus, but rather a silly product meant to capitalize on both. If you can't make that distinction ...
InsaneApache
08-22-2006, 22:47
It's worse than that.....he's dead Jim!!
Engerlund....Engurlund.....
[what have i done?] :sweatdrop:
Don Corleone
08-22-2006, 22:50
I don't argue that somebody is trying to capitalize on somebody else's rather simplistic faith, as the armour of God St. Paul described in Ephesians was clearly a metaphor, even to the original readers at the time of it's writing. Now, you didn't mention a price. For all I know, these are available for a nominal donation.
What's more, there seems to be a certain idea that Chrisitans (fundamentalist and others) are the last group left that it's PC to ridicule. Being a not-so-fundamentalist Christian, I do take issue with the ongoing portrayal of the simple stupid rubes that believe the crap in the so-called Good Book. I mean, any educated person knows it's all a bunch of hooey and that it's sole remaining purpose is to identify the sophisticate from the ignoramus, by providing fodder for jokes.
Even if fundamentalist Christians are so limited in their thought prowess as popular culture, and Backroom culture for that matter, would have us believe, I'd think you'd have better points to make then ridiculing a group of people that are more deserving of your pity then your scorn.
I don't allow my children to wear any sort of brand clothing. Heck, I won't put on a shirt that has a Nike swoosh. Branding is silly. Why should I pay someone to give them free advertising?
If only the world would follow your fine example. :wall:
I don't argue that somebody is trying to capitalize on somebody else's rather simplistic faith, as the armour of God St. Paul described in Ephesians was clearly a metaphor, even to the original readers at the time of it's writing. Now, you didn't mention a price. For all I know, these are available for a nominal donation.
From my post (and the website), $39.95 (plus shipping) gets you one set of PJs, plus a New Testament.
It is a bit unfortunate that they picked that particular style. "Let's dress our kids up as either crazed English football fans, or crusaders..."
Now, you didn't mention a price. For all I know, these are available for a nominal donation.
If you follow the link you'll see pricing for both the PJs and the dolls. They're not priced for charity, trust me.
Reading the rest of your post, I'm not sure I agree with your position. Christianity is very well respected in this country -- I'd like to see an atheist try to get elected to higher office. Does pop culture make fun of the dominant ideology? Sure. Is this surprising?
I'd say the safest people to make fun of would be Wahabbist Muslims, but I could be wrong.
P.S.: Osama and Whitney (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/article_1193385.php/Osama_Bin_Laden_hot_for_Whitney_Houston_not_fond_of_blacks), sittin' in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G ...
AntiochusIII
08-22-2006, 23:13
What's more, there seems to be a certain idea that Chrisitans (fundamentalist and others) are the last group left that it's PC to ridicule. Being a not-so-fundamentalist Christian, I do take issue with the ongoing portrayal of the simple stupid rubes that believe the crap in the so-called Good Book. I mean, any educated person knows it's all a bunch of hooey and that it's sole remaining purpose is to identify the sophisticate from the ignoramus, by providing fodder for jokes.Self-victimizing today, are we? I suspect not many of us actually believe the "Christians are stupid! Boohoo!" thing, and that you get a little too iffy for it. But it's understandable, considering the anti-religious sentiments expressed in posts in that other thread. Oh, and I'm sure many of us continue to make fun of as many stereotypes as ever; some that are avoided (branded PC, I suppose) are understandably so based on the sensitiveness of their historical backgrounds, or simply of current issues -- past oppression, guilt complex, an attempt to challenge the relatively mainstream "you're gay, this is gay, I'm insulting your mom" or "talk funny Asians must be Muslims Arabs terrorists help" or a-thousand-other-causes, in which, if you wish, you can add "please stop making fun of the fundies" to the list.
Don Corleone
08-22-2006, 23:17
Were I gay, and you put up a stereotyping picture portraying all homosexuals as drag queens running around at the local pride parade having sex with multiple partners, some unknown, on a daily basis, and i took offense and called you on it, I strongly suspsect the two of you would offer an apology.
I've never witnessed to any of you that didn't raise the topic first, never judged you by the rules I set for myself, I don't hold or support creationsim or any of the other usual things the secular crowd laughs at all Christians for.
But yep, you guys keep telling yourselves how enlightened and sophisticated you are, and how thin skinned I am. I CAN take a joke and yes, those kids do look ridiculous. It's not the joke, it's the tone, and I'm done with this conversation.
What in the name of hell is that supposed to be ... PJ's complete with shield, hat and, uh, that cloth thingy hanging from the girl's hat?
Where do you keep the shield while sleeping?
:idea2: Hm, come to think of it, it gives me an idea ... the Spawn of Satan PJs, it's a buyer's market out there ... I'll get on the design right away. :laugh4:
Goofball
08-22-2006, 23:24
Does nobody else find it disturbing how much this:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/home.jpg
resembles this:
http://www.lostbrain.com/sports/brandon/annicka/klan.jpg
~:eek:
Reenk Roink
08-22-2006, 23:27
No...
I am also not disturbed by kids dressing up as ghosts on Halloween and the "resemblence" to the KKK...
Strike For The South
08-22-2006, 23:32
Does nobody else find it disturbing how much this:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/home.jpg
resembles this:
http://www.lostbrain.com/sports/brandon/annicka/klan.jpg
~:eek:
....Were reaching a bit aernt we? I mean I know all Christians are bigoted and stupid inbreds but they wouldnt dare be open about.
No, those aren't KKK pyjamas, they're quite obviously politically incorrect "crusading pyjamas", designed to propogate hate and intolerance. The coppers should drag them screaming from their beds and straight into the slammer... shocking. :no:
Devastatin Dave
08-22-2006, 23:42
I personally like the little palestinian kids with suicide bomber vests and little AK-47's, they look like they could kick a little more ass (too bad their parents are pussies and prefer suicide bombing civilicans). It just makes my heart melt looking at all these "religious" folks armed to the teeth to please their gods (including the thread subject picture.)
And God cried.:no: :shame:
Strike For The South
08-22-2006, 23:44
There PJs for gods sake something a mum used to help her kindalen go to bed. Nothing more nothing less there just Pjs.
Reverend Joe
08-22-2006, 23:47
Yet more proof (to me) that "Sales" Christians are all secretly huge potheads.
"Hey, du-u-u-u-ude... let's make these shiny-ass, like, armor pajamas... and then we'll sell it for a ****load apiece... they'll eat it up... speaking of which, you got munchies tonight. And no more communion wafers! Those things taste like crap." ~:pimp:
Goofball
08-22-2006, 23:50
....Were reaching a bit aernt we? I mean I know all Christians are bigoted and stupid inbreds but they wouldnt dare be open about.
The only one reaching here is you: reaching to stretch my post into something it's not.
I was simply making a comparison between the physical characteristics of the two outfits, not between Christian teachings and KKK twistedness.
If I thought there was any similarity between true Christian teaching and white supremecist beliefs, I would not have promised the Catholic Church that I would raise my son in that faith. Though I am not a practicing Catholic myself, my wife is, and it was very important to her.
But I have to tell you: the Christians in here need to lighten up a bit. You guys have really flown off the handle over nothing in this thread.
Besides, when you guys get all defensive about it, the real Christian haters (and I don't deny that there are a few in here) smell blood in the water.
Sasaki Kojiro
08-22-2006, 23:51
I don't see why they need armor when Jesus is:
https://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8854/studentrq3.jpg
https://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6171/truckerhe3.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/JesusImages/page2.htm
I find it hilarious that these images are supposed to be reassuring when really they have some bearded guy staring over your shoulder when you least expect it
Devastatin Dave
08-22-2006, 23:54
That's "Hippy Jesus" Sasaki, My Jesus is a bald black dude with tats, rides a Harley, and opens a 55 gallon drum of whoopass on all who profane the Lord!!!:laugh4:
Big King Sanctaphrax
08-22-2006, 23:54
Argh!
If I was the girl in the top pic, Jesus would be getting a taser to the face very shortly. Also, it looks like Jesus is hi-jacking the dude's truck.
Devastatin Dave
08-23-2006, 00:00
Argh!
If I was the girl in the top pic, Jesus would be getting a taser to the face very shortly. Also, it looks like Jesus is hi-jacking the dude's truck.
We should have a caption contest...
Picture one... "Hey babe, you seem a little tense how about a nice rub on the shoulders."
Picture two... "Alright, you make a left on Moreland and ask for a chick named Gina, she's a real toe curler. Don't forget to tell her the J-Dog sent ya"
Sasaki Kojiro
08-23-2006, 00:06
Lol, those are hilarious DD.
How about this one?
https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9059/jugglercj1.jpg
Big King Sanctaphrax
08-23-2006, 00:06
"Alright, you make a left on Moreland and ask for a chick named Gina, she's a real toe curler. Don't forget to tell her the J-Dog sent ya"
Well, no-one's going to top that, let's be honest. I just spat pepsi all over myself.
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Big King Sanctaphrax
08-23-2006, 00:17
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/enervatedband/welder.jpg
"I don't care if you're the Saviour of Mankind, dude, you've got to wear the proper safety gear. That robe is not suitable welding attire."
Strike For The South
08-23-2006, 00:22
....
ok I overeacted sorry
There still however just pjs
Does nobody else find it disturbing how much this:
...
resembles this:
...
~:eek:No.
So? :shrug:
You guys don't have a problem with Power Ranger jammies do you?
Well, I think they're silly- but I also think that Power Ranger jammies are silly as well. However, I have no problem with parents letting their children wearing either if the kids like them.
Devastatin Dave
08-23-2006, 00:47
Lol, those are hilarious DD.
How about this one?
https://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9059/jugglercj1.jpg
Joey was a "special" kid that use to eat his buggers in front of the class room for show and tell. With Jesus, those bugger eating days are over. Sure, last week Joey required 15 stitches on the top of his head and 2 days in a coma after a bowling ball he tried to juggle for the class landed squarely on his head, but with Jesus anythings possible...
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/bodybuilder.jpg
It was then that Jesus knew the terrible truth -- it's not enough to be buff; you also need to be cut.
[edit]
Were I gay, and you put up a stereotyping picture portraying all homosexuals as drag queens running around at the local pride parade having sex with multiple partners, some unknown, on a daily basis, and i took offense and called you on it, I strongly suspsect the two of you would offer an apology.
The problem with your analogy is that I would be another gay man, but one who could laugh about it. I can't imagine apologizing about anything I've said re: Christians and Christianity, especially seeing as I am one. If you'll recall, Jesus himself had a bit of a problem with people who mixed the profit motive and faith.
Why so testy? We live in a predominantly Christian nation, with an unbroken lineage of Christian presidents, a historically 99% Christian supreme court, a 99% Christian congress ... I mean, seriously, what's got you defensive? Are we gearing up for this year's War On Christmas? And if so, isn't it a bit early?
If you can't see that religion in general and Christianity in particular are safe as houses in this country, I recommend you join Divinus Arma at the End Is Nigh booth, where they're handing out free apocalypse survival kits. Meet me in Wisconsin, where we'll bribe the Lord Humungous and his leathermen with gourmet brownies.
IrishArmenian
08-23-2006, 04:53
How come they have to be the English Flag? Why couldn't they look any different. Obviously aimed at the English Football fans or Episcopalians. Doesn't God say not to advertise your "Christian-ness"? Despite being Christian, I do not think this was a good idea and this thread has become hijacked. Damm hijackers!
As the thread starter, I would like to officially sanction any thread hijacking and derailing, so long as it's in the cause of humor and/or silliness.
Devastatin Dave
08-23-2006, 05:29
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/bodybuilder.jpg
It was then that Jesus knew the terrible truth -- it's not enough to be buff; you also need to be cut.
[edit]
LOL!!! Good one:laugh4:
How about a commercial...
"Jesus Juice!!! Not just for child molesting, one gloved celebrities anymore!!!":2thumbsup:
Divinus Arma
08-23-2006, 05:46
https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3043/unibomberew7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3043/unibomberew7.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
LOL :laugh4:
The problem with your analogy is that I would be another gay man, but one who could laugh about it. I can't imagine apologizing about anything I've said re: Christians and Christianity, especially seeing as I am one. If you'll recall, Jesus himself had a bit of a problem with people who mixed the profit motive and faith.Right, a gay who doesnt see being attracted to men as necessary to being gay.... like a Christian that doesnt believe Jesus was the Christ. ~:confused:
You can call yourself whatever you want, but I dont really find the "but Im a Christian too" defense to criticism to be very strong when by your prior statements you disagree on the most fundamental tenants of virtually all Christians everywhere.. :shrug:
Divinus Arma
08-23-2006, 06:12
https://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2518/dentistem9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Divinus Arma
08-23-2006, 08:07
https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6848/jesustruckerbg6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Divinus Arma
08-23-2006, 08:21
https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3342/jesustellerra1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Patriarch of Constantinople
08-23-2006, 08:35
If only the world would follow your fine example. :wall:
Then the world should stop thinking their "hip" and "all that" by wearing a picture of a gun with the word "gangster" on the bottom.
Duke John
08-23-2006, 09:37
How come they have to be the English Flag? Why couldn't they look any different. Obviously aimed at the English Football fans or Episcopalians.
It's the cross of St. George and it has a lot more history to it than being used by English football supporters.
Ironside
08-23-2006, 10:08
What in the name of hell is that supposed to be ... PJ's complete with shield, hat and, uh, that cloth thingy hanging from the girl's hat?
Where do you keep the shield while sleeping?
The girl's PJ is supposed to be some princess gear most likely. Although I must question how much protection that would give. I mean it's supposed to represent the armour of God and still represents something that wouldn't gives more protection than a sweatshirt.
It's also degrading against women:
In addition, the content of video games may influence children's atititudes toward gender roles. In Nintendo games, women are often depicted as victims. The covers of Nintendo games show males striking a dominant pose. Many games are based upon a scenario in which a woman is kidnapped or has to be rescued
A princess and a knight...
But then I'm probably reading into that comercial stuff to much. :laugh4: ~;p
Those with you always pics are hillarous. ~D
@DA: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
@Hannibal99: Not exclusively 'gangster' oriented 'big logo' clothing, but pretty much all designer and labelled clothes, especially sports brands. 90% of clothing seems to be overpriced crap knocked together in the far east, wheras designer labels are usually overpriced crap knocked together in the far east with a label and a much larger price tag.
Vladimir
08-23-2006, 13:36
It is a bit unfortunate that they picked that particular style. "Let's dress our kids up as either crazed English football fans, or crusaders..."
:wall: I'm just suprised they picked that particular faction given their history and recent role in Kingdom of Heaven.
You can call yourself whatever you want, but I dont really find the "but Im a Christian too" defense to criticism to be very strong when by your prior statements you disagree on the most fundamental tenants of virtually all Christians everywhere.. :shrug:
Gather round, children, Xiahou has a little story to tell ...
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/oui-logo2.gif
Gather round, children, Xiahou has a little story to tell ...
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/oui-logo2.gif
No stories here. I just find your "Hey, Im a Christian too- you just dont have a sense of humor" defense to be pretty weak when you dont believe Jesus was the Christ. No inquisition here either- you can call yourself what you want, I just don't think it appropriate to try to use your Christianity as cover for criticism. :shrug:
UglyandHasty
08-23-2006, 15:09
LOL DA, now that made laugh out loud !!!:laugh4:
Xiahou, we're going to have to agree to disagree. If following the teachings of Jesus does not make one a Christian, and one must subscribe to the entire Nicean creed to be in the club, then most of our founding fathers were not Christian by your lights. Very sorry I don't believe in the literal divinity of Jesus. Remember that christos literally means anointed, not "physical embodiment of divinity."
I still don't see why poking fun at gaudy, tasteless attempts to capitalize on Christianity is offensive to you.
No stories here. I just find your "Hey, Im a Christian too- you just dont have a sense of humor" defense to be pretty weak when you dont believe Jesus was the Christ. No inquisition here either- you can call yourself what you want, I just don't think it appropriate to try to use your Christianity as cover for criticism. :shrug:
Could you please explain what you mean by the Christ? If that refers to his so-called divine nature, then the man could possibly be one of the Christians (here the term encompasses all faiths based on a common belief, whether they are Protestantism, Orthodoxy, Romano-Cahtolicism, or any of other beliefs possible) that Jesus was simply a mortal inspired by God to spread faith.
rory_20_uk
08-23-2006, 15:33
OK, call me a cynic regarding the pictures, but if he's here with us always, where's the ones of women in the shower with Jesus peaking over the top?
I constantly have these [utterly pointless] conversations with my girlfriend who will glibly say that God is always with us. I then point out that the sick b*****d seems to be there when one hell of a lot of pain and suffering occurs but doesn't lift a finger. Similarly with these pictures - why not have Jesus pushing the finger of a man holding a gun, or tripping an old lady down the stairs?
"When belief is in, the brain is out"
~:smoking:
kataphraktoi
08-23-2006, 15:40
Lol, that kind of stuff is old news in Jesus-land.
Even as a Christian, there is only so much corny-factor I can take.
Anyone seen those Christian shirts with Jesus in Terminator glasses saying:
"I'll be back"...
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
I constantly have these [utterly pointless] conversations with my girlfriend who will glibly say that God is always with us. I then point out that the sick b*****d seems to be there when one hell of a lot of pain and suffering occurs but doesn't lift a finger. Similarly with these pictures - why not have Jesus pushing the finger of a man holding a gun, or tripping an old lady down the stairs?
Maybe its time for humans to take responsibility for the actions with their GOd-given free willl then....
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v96/enervatedband/welder.jpg
Jesus Built My Hotrod :thrasher: :drummer: :guitarist:
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4117/clownjd5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
"I'd like you to meet my good friend, Mr. John Gacy.
rory_20_uk
08-23-2006, 15:51
Maybe its time for humans to take responsibility for the actions with their GOd-given free willl then....
Yeah, then you get into "The Bible was written by men - with free will - yet is the last word and work in Christianity". All other material that was removed or not cannonised was chosen by man with his free will... oh, except that this was a faultless process with no errors whatsoever (as there have been few revisions).
Free will appears to be used to excuse God from everything in the world that is bad whist is not addressed in relation to such things as the succession of Popes, religious pronouncements or even holy scriptures.
If free will is taken, there is no certainty of anything that is written by men over time. So people are then following the altering egos of powerful men. Whether God was present at some point becomes less and less easy to discern.
~:smoking:
Xiahou, we're going to have to agree to disagree. If following the teachings of Jesus does not make one a Christian, and one must subscribe to the entire Nicean creed to be in the club, then most of our founding fathers were not Christian by your lights. Very sorry I don't believe in the literal divinity of Jesus. Remember that christos literally means anointed, not "physical embodiment of divinity."Yeah, the literal translation of christ is "annointed one", but in terms of the Christian faith it refers to the biblical Jesus Christ, which in addition to being our source for almost everything we know of Jesus' teachings- also speaks of his divinity and resurrection. You do have a point about our founding fathers- many, iirc, would be considered Unitarians which, technically, are not Christians and most modern Unitarians don't consider themselves Christians as far as I can tell. However, Unitarians did and generally do have a strong reverance for our Judeo-Christian tradition.
*Somewhat tangentially, Im puzzled by how Unitarians can subscribe to the teachings and moral authority of Jesus (which we get from the Bible), while apparently dismissing the clear references to Jesus as the Son of God- His own statements, as well as his resurrection. But maybe that's a discussion for another time. :book:
I still don't see why poking fun at gaudy, tasteless attempts to capitalize on Christianity is offensive to you.I never said I found it offensive. I said they look silly- like something Ned Flanders would buy his kids, but said (later) if someone bought them and their kids wanted to wear them, I could care less. I wasnt upset by the thread topic, I just commented that I didnt really think it fair to say "Im a Christian too" as a defense, when (at the very least) your beliefs are outside what's generally considered Christianity. :bow:
Sorry to crap all over a fun thread with "serious" talk, but I did have a point I wanted to highlight. :wink:
Reverend Joe
08-23-2006, 16:21
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7870/jimmorrisoniw2.jpg
"I dunno about you people, but I just wanna get my kicks in before I gotta do this whole 'rapture' thing... cause, I gotta tell ya, heaven is a ****in' drag, man."
Sorry about the size... apparently people weren't too fond of photographing Jimmy after he got all chubby.
OH MY GOD! Excuse the pun I am going to have so much fun editing those always watching pictures!
English assassin
08-23-2006, 18:27
Bleh. The attentive may recall that I may be an atheist, but I am a catholic atheist, and when it comes to kitch all you protestant hell-bound can just get your tanks off the pope's lawn. Nobody does it better than us, I mean them.
Enjoy http://www.catholicshopper.com/ my friends.
Its hard, very, very hard, to know exactly what in this cornucopia of catholic products to draw your attention to ( although the Catholic Challenge Catechism Game For PC/Mac has just displaced Medieval2 Total War from the top of my Amazon wish list). I think I will settle for the world famous sporting Jesus statues, (Golfing Jesus. I say no more.) http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/inspirational_sport_statues2.html
(I would just like to add that I don't see why bad taste becomes not funny when its christian.)
Banquo's Ghost
08-23-2006, 18:30
I think I will settle for the world famous sporting Jesus statues, (Golfing Jesus. I say no more.) http://www.catholicshopper.com/products/inspirational_sport_statues2.html
Those statues are just plain spooky. No wonder priests end up in trouble. ~:eek:
Divinus Arma
08-23-2006, 19:24
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)
https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4116/jesusbobbleheadlt2.gif (https://imageshack.us)
Patriarch of Constantinople
08-24-2006, 03:31
Anyone seen those Christian shirts with Jesus in Terminator glasses saying:
"I'll be back"...
No but i have seen bobblehead jesus :laugh4:
Patriarch of Constantinople
08-24-2006, 03:32
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)
https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4116/jesusbobbleheadlt2.gif (https://imageshack.us)
Were all going to hell arent we?:oops:
I purposefully avoided this thread to spare myself the douchebaguerie of some of my fellow Org patrons, but damn, those drawings are funny.
kataphraktoi
08-24-2006, 07:46
Isnt it nice and tolerant of Christians to allow things like this without something being burnt?? ~:grouphug: ~:grouphug:
Because seriously....you wouldn't get away with this with another religion would you?? Well maybe Buddhism and Judaism :laugh4: :laugh4:
Banquo's Ghost
08-24-2006, 10:22
Isnt it nice and tolerant of Christians to allow things like this without something being burnt?? ~:grouphug: ~:grouphug:
Because seriously....you wouldn't get away with this with another religion would you?? Well maybe Buddhism and Judaism :laugh4: :laugh4:
Well, there's some seriously tacky Buddhist imagery being sold too.
Personally, I think the Islamic hardline on images of their Prophet (p.b.u.h.) ensures that this kind of cheap commercialism is minimised. I would expect that there are many Christians who inwardly shudder at what has been shown here as 'products' who would like to agree with the spirit of DA's post. God might have known what He was forbidding after all?
(Mind you, He should have foreseen Mankind's irreverent sense of humour and desire to make big bucks from the credulous too...)
Vladimir
08-24-2006, 13:19
OK, call me a cynic regarding the pictures, but if he's here with us always, where's the ones of women in the shower with Jesus peaking over the top?
I constantly have these [utterly pointless] conversations with my girlfriend who will glibly say that God is always with us. I then point out that the sick b*****d seems to be there when one hell of a lot of pain and suffering occurs but doesn't lift a finger. Similarly with these pictures - why not have Jesus pushing the finger of a man holding a gun, or tripping an old lady down the stairs?
"When belief is in, the brain is out"
~:smoking:
Wow. What a way to piss on a parade. Kinda takes the humor out of a thread doesn't it?
yesdachi
08-24-2006, 15:15
...God is always with us.
Maybe sometimes we just dont seek him out. :wink:
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would al low all of these things."
The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt.
The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me."
"Exactly!"- affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him! . That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
rory_20_uk
08-24-2006, 16:24
Erm, barbers are not omnipresent or omnipotent. As such the argument is rather poor.
Much of the pain and suffering is because of people turning to god. Of course the usual caveat is that they are not turning to God in the right way. Then God is not helping those who try to find him and in the course of that are causing pain.
Just like patients in hospital: when something goes well they thank God, when something goes wrong they complain to the doctors.
We did the thing that went right. Free will and all that. The massive heart attack that no one expected is in God's domain: thank us when things go right, blame god when the unexpected goes wrong. Miracles can be bad as well as good.
~:smoking:
yesdachi
08-24-2006, 16:28
Erm, barbers are not omnipresent or omnipotent. As such the argument is rather poor.
True enough, but I thought it was an interesting response to the common question.
I actually received it in an e-mail from a churchy relative just before reading your post.
English assassin
08-24-2006, 17:26
Actually, if you allow free will (an unfashionable philosphical position, I think), I thought yesdachi's story was quite good as these things go.
Oh and Rory, while we are doing stories here's an old one for you: What's the difference between a cardiac surgeon and God?
God doesn't think he's a cardiac surgeon...
Divinus Arma
08-24-2006, 23:51
God doesn't interfere with free will. He does his miracles through US. The surgeon does a bypass, the firefighter saves a life, the soldier protects his family, the businessman keeps people employed, the coach builds team spirit and character, the mom loves her kids. Every task we do can be done for the Lord or it can be done for ourselves. But this does not mean the two are mutually exclusive. I do things for me and to please God.
Rather then saying "Jesus is with all of us" I would rather say, "We all have a little Jesus in us" (no funny ideas you sickos). I'm no christian, my point is only that we each have the potential to do God's work and live our lives for him. We all have the ability to be our own savior. Our only purpose on this planet is for God's pleasure- we are mini versions of him, capable of doing His will or doing our own. I can't speak for everyone else, but I would point out that doing good feels right for a reason. And doing evil feels horrible not because of our upbringing, but because it is against our own purpose. People continually do evil because they have accepted evil as part of their life.
As for natural events: God operates within his own laws of science. Weather events and such are what help keep this planet, our oversized aquarium, working smoothly. We have waves to surf, mountains to climb, forests to explore, and sky to dive. In order for us to have any of it, there must be storms, avalanches, and fires. If you want to blame God for natural disasters then be equally pissed off at gravity and oxygen. He knows this crap is going to kill alot of us, but by followinghis will we may eventually have further rememedies to protect or prevent death and injury from these events. We can desalt ocean water, I am sure we can one day have better tsunami warnings and corresponding shelter capabilities.
Besides: If there is no God, you can never proof it since it would be a universal negative. :laugh4:
Now can we please get back on track making fun of religion? :focus: :laugh4:
AntiochusIII
08-25-2006, 00:30
God doesn't interfere with free will. He does his miracles through US.(WORST PUN EVER WARNING: ANYONE WITH TASTE SKIP MY POST PLEASE!)
Ah, so the United States does God's will, eh? That explains it.
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