What are the system requirements for M2TW?

[MSB]

The subject of the post explains it all really. What are the system requirements for M2TW? I am eagerly anticipating this game (after all it says on amazon that it wil be historically accurate) yet I do have a low spec PC (256MB RAM, 128MB Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 4000, 1.5 Ghz AMD Athlon Processer). So I really need to knbow whether I can play it before I pre-order it.
Thankyou

[Dutch_guy]

Well judging from Soulflame's post in this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=68970&page=2) I understand the minimum specs are:


System
1. The only real number I got were 1.8 Ghz Gf4 128 for minimum specs

Does that mean you can run it ? I personally have no idea...

:balloon2:

[King Noob the Stupid]

Well I'd say the CPU could perhaps be strong enough but AFAIK the 4MX is not really a good card (can it handle directX 9 at all?) and I'm almost sure 256 MB of RAM won't be enough, I recommend you buy another 512 MB (even if you need a new machine anyway, you could simply continue using the ram)

PS: Of course, you could also ignore what people tell you here and simply try to run the demo ;)

[Stig]

I don't know the exact specs but Shoggy (.com) simply said this:
If you can play RTW on high, you can play MTW2 on medium.

That's where my knowledge of PCs ends, but I think you will know now ... hopefully

[highlanddave]

hey, Stig, check out Soulflames thread on this page ....the answers. he asked in an interview last week for the minimums. as was mentioned above it was:

Dutch_guy said


System
1. The only real number I got were 1.8 Ghz Gf4 128 for minimum specs

soulflame asked alot of questions you will be interested in reading. i thought i might make a thread at the .com to link them, but i never did it.

edit: i made a thread in the .com medieval tw2 forum to link the interview with soulflame

[Stig]

Well what Shoggy told me was ages ago, early this year, when the MTW2 forums where spammed, this was to keep them silent, but I believe it's correct. Which means what Dutch Guy said is correct, as that can play RTW on medium.

[Dr_Who_Regen#4]

I bet 512MB of Ram will be the minimum...MTW was 128MB, RTW was 256MB, so probably M2TW will be 512MB of RAM requred...

For MTW my PC was basically at the minimum across the board (I had 350MHz, 128 MB of RAM and a 32MB PCI video card). I could play single player, but at times I would get some lag) I think I was able to play on large units but I am sure I turned down(off) many of the graphics settings.

so as long as you have the minimum you will probably be able to play but I think your 1.5Ghz processer is below the 1.8Ghz required..

I think if you don't play multi player you could get a bottom end computer and it will be fine. I think the main thing is to make sure you have 128MB of video memory. Of course the better card you have the more units you can have on the screen and the higher the graphics settings.

[MSB]

If you can play RTW on high, you can play MTW2 on medium.
Well I can play RTW on medium, does that mean I can play M2TW on low?

[monkian]

The subject of the post explains it all really. What are the system requirements for M2TW? I am eagerly anticipating this game (after all it says on amazon that it wil be historically accurate) yet I do have a low spec PC (256MB RAM, 128MB Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 4000, 1.5 Ghz AMD Athlon Processer). So I really need to knbow whether I can play it before I pre-order it.
Thankyou

Dude - I'd at least get more RAM - I've got 768mb of RAM,, 1.5 processor and 128mb radeon card and it chugs on decent settings on Rome - let alone Medieval.

[Kourutsu]

Pentium R 4 CPU 3.60 GHz
2.00 GB
ATI 256

Now, I need to know if my ATI is good enough.

[Martinaz]

ATI what? 9600? 9300?? you have variations on that you know.

[hoetje]

I have 1024 RAM,3.0 ghz and geforce 7600 gt 256 mb.Will I be able to play the game on lets say med/med-high settings?

[lars573]

The subject of the post explains it all really. What are the system requirements for M2TW? I am eagerly anticipating this game (after all it says on amazon that it wil be historically accurate) yet I do have a low spec PC (256MB RAM, 128MB Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 4000, 1.5 Ghz AMD Athlon Processer). So I really need to knbow whether I can play it before I pre-order it.
Thankyou
Hmm. Double your RAM at the least. Triple or quadruple would be better. And get rid of that card. It's actually a Geforce 2 over-clocked and given more modern VRAM.

[Wishazu]

In response to Mathius, the simple answer is no unfortunately mate. If by some miracle you managed to get the game to run on your current system I doubt it would be playable.

[King Noob the Stupid]

As we already got a thread for it and people are apparently answering I'll also ask:
Dou you think it's gonna be playable ( to me that means battles with absolutely no bells&whistles and everything on low run without lags) on a Athlon XP 2400+ (1826MHz), 512 Mb RAM (perhaps gonna double it if I find some ram that suits the board) and a Geforce 6200 /w 256 MB VRAM (the AGP version)?

[azraeltheFallen]

Matthius Julius
Yep you wil be able to run it on mininmum req. But i would defiantly get my self a bit more Ram and pehabs as well a new Processor, but you a going to run it with a little lack

[Satyr]

Ha ha! Someone just stole my computer so I built a new one with plenty of guts for M2:TW. Core 2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig ram and Nvidia 7900GT w/512 Mb of ram. If the game is any good it is gonna rock on this bad boy.

[hoetje]

Ha ha! Someone just stole my computer so I built a new one with plenty of guts for M2:TW. Core 2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig ram and Nvidia 7900GT w/512 Mb of ram. If the game is any good it is gonna rock on this bad boy.

OMG a 7900 gt ^^

If you had more money,you should have gone for the 7900 GTX :)

But a 7900 gt will play the game very good ;-)

[King Noob the Stupid]

omg, how did you afford it? Recently inherited kilobucks?

[azraeltheFallen]

Well some of us actually works:2thumbsup:

[hoetje]

Well some of us actually works:2thumbsup:

Well some of us actually go to school instead of working....(money=>down)

[Martinaz]

school en werken werkt ook :)
iam on school and i work. I only get 50 euro's a month but i can affort a new com about that :)

[A jezy]

my pc is running at .AMD Sempron(tm)processor 3100+ 1.81GHz,512mb of ram ..well i be able to play ?

[Zimfan]

Well some of us actually go to school instead of working....(money=>down)

And some of us get free checks from the government for going to school. :jumping:

[Zimfan]

This is probably a silly question, since I bought a fairly nice computer a few days ago that should be fine. Still, given my ignorance of all things computer related(except that higher numbers usually=good). Is this one ok? A friend says I may need to replace the video card but he only plays first person shooters that I'm told suck up memory.

Processor: AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 4200+ dual-core - 2.2GHz

Memory: 2GB DDR2-533MHz dual channel SDRAM (2x1024)

Hard Drive: Some gigantic number of gigabites.

Video card: Either NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE, w/ TurboCache, or NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE, TV-Out, DVI, VGA, I think.

I'm pulling this numbers from the hp website, I'm actually on a different comp at the office.

Also, what does a dual core processor do? The salesguy said it effectively means my processor runs programs at double the stated speed. In this case I guess that would be 4.4 GHz.

[Incongruous]

Ok heres my old boy

AMD 3200+ 2.5 i think.

ATI X800 XT PLATINUM 256MB

2G's of RAM DDR2

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

AMD 32000+ 2.5 i think.


Where can I buy this CPU?:laugh4:

[Incongruous]

oops sorry...:shame:

[|Heerbann|_Di3Hard]

np m8. Would be nice, if a 32GHZ CPU would exists. But I guess, the game developer would be able to program laggy games also on this machine. :laugh4:

[Stig]

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm44.showMessage?topicID=3141.topic
maybe that helps

[fallen851]

I have a laptop with a 2.4ghz pentium 4, 1024megs of ram and a ATI Radeon 7500 64meg card.

I don't plan on buying M2TW because of the requirements. I think my system is ok, but my video card blows chunks.

[MSB]

Hmm. Double your RAM at the least. Triple or quadruple would be better. And get rid of that card. It's actually a Geforce 2 over-clocked and given more modern VRAM.
Oh so thats why when I got my computer upgraded (128MB RAM to 256 and 32MB intigrated graphics to 128MB) the graphics card was so cheap (£12)!

[Stig]

I have a laptop with a 2.4ghz pentium 4, 1024megs of ram and a ATI Radeon 7500 64meg card.

I don't plan on buying M2TW because of the requirements. I think my system is ok, but my video card blows chunks.
Yeah but then you also have a laptop, which can be pretty irritating while gaming, atleast in my experience.

[King Ragnar]

lol my rig:
1Gb Ram
AMD Athlon 2700+ 2.17 GHz
ATI radeon 9200SE

Me doubts ill be able to run

[King Noob the Stupid]

Well I think you're right unless you change your graphics card.

[Stig]

lol my rig:
1Gb Ram
AMD Athlon 2700+ 2.17 GHz
ATI radeon 9200SE

Me doubts ill be able to run
Nah what I know of it you're safe, unless you want big graphics

[King Ragnar]

Well it my graphics card that always lets me down, but hopefully will have a new one by release...

[Stig]

Yeah I don't know lots about graphic cards, apart from the fact that everyone who wants one should buy the 7600GT, as I have it and it's both damned good and cheap

[SpencerH]

Wasnt there a big problem with certain graphics cards and RTW (ie didnt work at all)? I took a quick look but couldnt find the info.

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

I have a AMD sempron 2800+ 2 GHz 256 mb ram G-Force fx 5200 .I don't think that i will be able to play m2tw at all.What do you think?

[JR-]

i would advise a 512MB stick of memory and a Geforce 7600GS as a minimum upgrade.

[Stig]

Wasnt there a big problem with certain graphics cards and RTW (ie didnt work at all)? I took a quick look but couldnt find the info.
No it has problem with the new 9 nVidea drivers


I have a AMD sempron 2800+ 2 GHz 256 mb ram G-Force fx 5200 .I don't think that i will be able to play m2tw at all.What do you think?
I would get 512 or 1028 ram (since your processor isn't that great 512 might even be better)
And the 7600GT card, it's 120 euros, about 80 ponds or 150 dollars

[hoetje]

Yeah I don't know lots about graphic cards, apart from the fact that everyone who wants one should buy the 7600GT, as I have it and it's both damned good and cheap

I have that one too and it's verryyyyyy good indeed + cheap.
It is the best card if we're talking about price/performance ^^

[Little Legioner]

My config: A64 3000, 2gb ram + 7800 GT ( 460 / 1150 ) . Can i play the game with überhigh settings?

[Quickening]

I have a 1.7 Celeron, with 768MB of RAM and a GeForce FX 5200. Im going to take the risk and buy Medieval 2.
Im getting Total War Eras for my birthday next month and Medieval 2 for Christmas. YAY!

[MSB]

I have a 1.7 Celeron, with 768MB of RAM and a GeForce FX 5200. Im going to take the risk and buy Medieval 2.
Im getting Total War Eras for my birthday next month and Medieval 2 for Christmas. YAY!
Destroy the Celeron! From what I have seen they are rubbish.

[Quickening]

Destroy the Celeron! From what I have seen they are rubbish.

Aye. That they are. Although this PC has been good to me over the years. Im confident it will run Medieval 2 to a decent degree.

[Stig]

My config: A64 3000, 2gb ram + 7800 GT ( 460 / 1150 ) . Can i play the game with überhigh settings?
Well atleast on normal high settings. Maybe not in MP tho, if you play that.


I have a 1.7 Celeron, with 768MB of RAM and a GeForce FX 5200. Im going to take the risk and buy Medieval 2.
Im getting Total War Eras for my birthday next month and Medieval 2 for Christmas. YAY!
Yeah it's a Celeron and that's the bad part. From what we heard 1.7 might just be good. Just switch everything to lowest and try to avoid long games (don't game for too long, 1 hour max I think, maybe 2)

[Ice]

Well some of us actually go to school instead of working....(money=>down)

Some of us do both? :idea2:

:laugh4:

[Ice]

I have a 1.7 Celeron, with 768MB of RAM and a GeForce FX 5200. Im going to take the risk and buy Medieval 2.
Im getting Total War Eras for my birthday next month and Medieval 2 for Christmas. YAY!

No offense, but that isn't going to run MTW II very good...

[Quickening]

No offense, but that isn't going to run MTW II very good...

Well stranger things have happened. I am saving my money for an upgrade and if MTW 2 doesn't work then Ive still got the other three games to play in the meantime ~:cheers:

[MSB]

I'm going to get my new laptop after Windows Vista brings in shader modle 4.0 with Directx 10. I just want to know if what I want to get will be OK. The graphics card will probably be slightly better when I get it (faster clock speed than the one listed e.c.t), but it will probably still have the same ammount of memory.

Intel Core Duo 1.8Ghz
Nvidia Quadro FX 120M 512MB (256MB of graphics memory, 256MB shared)
2GB RAM (2x1024)

Ok would this work (and yes I do know that laptops are not meant for gaming!).

[Underdog687]

Ive got ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 series
59.7 Gb of free space
Pentuim 4 CPu 3.06 Ghz
768 Mb of RAM

I have no idea when it comes to hardware/systems, so could a be able to play M2TW?

[gardibolt]

Yeah I have a FX 5200 and I have no hope it can run MTWII, since it can barely handle RTW on medium. I expect I'll have to upgrade at least to a 6800GT (I have an AGP motherboard rather than PCI-E, so I am pretty limited in what I can do for video cards). But I'm at 3.0 and 2GB RAM so otherwise good to go.

[DukeofSerbia]

I have 1024 RAM,3.0 ghz and geforce 7600 gt 256 mb.Will I be able to play the game on lets say med/med-high settings?

That will be enough for 1024x768 on high settings.:2thumbsup: At least I hope. GeForce 7600GT is the best mid range graphics card. :book:

[DukeofSerbia]

Ha ha! Someone just stole my computer so I built a new one with plenty of guts for M2:TW. Core 2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig ram and Nvidia 7900GT w/512 Mb of ram. If the game is any good it is gonna rock on this bad boy.

For the same money Radeon X1900XT 256MB is faster than 7900GT 256MB. Plus can HDR and AA.



This is probably a silly question, since I bought a fairly nice computer a few days ago that should be fine. Still, given my ignorance of all things computer related(except that higher numbers usually=good). Is this one ok? A friend says I may need to replace the video card but he only plays first person shooters that I'm told suck up memory.

Processor: AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 4200+ dual-core - 2.2GHz

Memory: 2GB DDR2-533MHz dual channel SDRAM (2x1024)

Hard Drive: Some gigantic number of gigabites.

Video card: Either NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE, w/ TurboCache, or NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE, TV-Out, DVI, VGA, I think.

I'm pulling this numbers from the hp website, I'm actually on a different comp at the office.


Both video card are terrible for playing. Buy at least Radeon X1600XT or GeForce 7600GT. As you have pretty powerfull machine go on stronger video card (and you will need very good PSU).



Also, what does a dual core processor do? The salesguy said it effectively means my processor runs programs at double the stated speed. In this case I guess that would be 4.4 GHz.

Not true.

[Maizel]

Well, yopu don't need a very good one, just go for the proper manufacturers.

Zalman, Thermaltake, and Coolermasters are always good choices

450Watt, will be enough for years (if not, i pitty your energybill) Butb you might want to have a 550W if you're thinking of SLI/Crossfire


And AVOID Antec PSU's, the new rig i ordered got delivered last week

A Sonata Lifestyle II, Great case, But the PSU is as fragile as fuck. They break down so often. I wish i'd known sooner.

Mine wors fine, But it emits a high pitched noise constantly, cause of a defect condensator. ArghhH!

[Satyr]

So, if you have enough computer to play M2:TW, what sort of monitor are you playing on?

I just got a new Dell 24" widescreen to go with my new computer. It's pretty easy to get fully involved in the game, it takes up my entire vision. I've been playing Galactic Civilizations 2 on my new system and it screams!

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

Hey if you know what are the system requirement for m2tw don't ask others just to ask.Post something that is useful.:laugh4: :laugh4:

[Maizel]

Samsung SyncMaster 205BW 20'' LCD 16.2M collors, 6ms g>g

[DukeofSerbia]

Well, yopu don't need a very good one, just go for the proper manufacturers.

Zalman, Thermaltake, and Coolermasters are always good choices


Depend what series. Cooler Master is not good.




450Watt, will be enough for years (if not, i pitty your energybill) Butb you might want to have a 550W if you're thinking of SLI/Crossfire


Again, depend from manufacturer and series.



And AVOID Antec PSU's, the new rig i ordered got delivered last week


Neo HE series is excellent (it's Seasonic OEM).

[DukeofSerbia]

So, if you have enough computer to play M2:TW, what sort of monitor are you playing on?



I have Samsung SyncMaster 997df (CRT) and it is good enough for 1280x1024. :2thumbsup: I don't need higher resulution.

[Maizel]

Depend what series. Cooler Master is not good.




Again, depend from manufacturer and series.



Neo HE series is excellent (it's Seasonic OEM).
Not here really

They're getting so much RMA's that most of them aranet even available anymore in my country for the time being.


I know, it depends on the manufacturer. But almost all PSU's of the three i listed, are wéll decent PSU's

And i only speak through personal experience, Not extensive testing.
All Thermaltake, Coolermaster and Zalman PSU's i've ever had were excellent.


Anyway, Before you buy anything, make sure you read plenty of reviews

[The Undertaker]

Would I be able to run Medieval 2 on low settings with this:

Dell DIMENSION 8250 Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.4 GHz 512 Mb of RAM
RADEON 9500 PRO

Thanks,
Undertaker.

[Zimfan]

Both video card are terrible for playing. Buy at least Radeon X1600XT or GeForce 7600GT. As you have pretty powerfull machine go on stronger video card (and you will need very good PSU).


:2thumbsup: Will do. Had this point very strongly made to me the other day when my computer proved unable to handle RTW on any resolution higher than 1080 x 768.




Not true.

Nice to have my suspicions confirmed. ~:)

[timsemand]

How good can i run it?

2.8 Ghz Pentium 4 with 768 ram and a 512 Mb Nivida Geforce 6200.

[Underdog687]

Ive got ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 series
59.7 Gb of free space
Pentuim 4 CPu 3.06 Ghz
768 Mb of RAM

I have no idea when it comes to hardware/systems, so could a be able to play M2TW?

Could someone please answer this as i have no idea what is what. I dont know what the diffeeence is between diferent graphic cards, all i want to know if i could play this.

Sorry i dont intend to sound rude.

[Stig]

@The Undertaker, yeah you're safe

@Timsemand, well it's a 6200 card, but it can do it, just don't expect High quality from it

[Stig]

@ Underdog, yeah it should play it.
Tho the 200 card sounds bad. Normally its about the higher the number the better. But you should be able to play it with low graphics.


btw. I couldn't edit my earlier post, how come?

[Maizel]

Actually it would be pretty useless to ask if your pc can run it. Since we dont know any of the requirements yet.

I think any proper pc could play the game, since you can play the entire game without going into a battle once. And the campaignmap part, isnt very demanding on your pc.

[Stig]

We know that you have to go one step back as in RTW
RTW High - MTW2 Medium
RTW Medium - MTW2 Low

[Vlad Tzepes]

We know that you have to go one step back as in RTW
RTW High - MTW2 Medium
RTW Medium - MTW2 Low

Hummmm... :inquisitive: wouldn't that be one step further? What worked fine for RTW medium would work only for MTW2 low?

Anyway, I'm getting ready to upgrade my system, so not only CA will be happy as I will buy their product, but also the PC industry... Hope it will be worthy.

[DukeofSerbia]

:2thumbsup: Will do. Had this point very strongly made to me the other day when my computer proved unable to handle RTW on any resolution higher than 1080 x 768.



For your system is currently optimal Radeon X1900XT with 256mb.:2thumbsup: And good PSU if you buy that monster.:book:

[DukeofSerbia]

Not here really

They're getting so much RMA's that most of them aranet even available anymore in my country for the time being.


I know, it depends on the manufacturer. But almost all PSU's of the three i listed, are wéll decent PSU's

And i only speak through personal experience, Not extensive testing.
All Thermaltake, Coolermaster and Zalman PSU's i've ever had were excellent.


Anyway, Before you buy anything, make sure you read plenty of reviews

Official XS Tiered PSU Manufacturer Brand Listing Phase (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088&highlight=psu+list)

Read carefully and find how are rated Cooler Master's PSU.

[highlanddave]

btw. I couldn't edit my earlier post, how come?

stig, you can not edit posts until you get full membership. at your posts rate it won't be long.

[Dracula(Romanian Vlad Tepes)]

When i become a full member and when i can edit my posts.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

i have 1022 RAM, however i have a RADEON X300 with 128 MB, its pretty average on rome but i can play high for some reason, it does however affect how much it chugs on online sometimes, i might need an upgrade

[highlanddave]

When i become a full member and when i can edit my posts.

i am guessing this is a question and not a statement.

it took me approximately 50 odd posts and 3 months. requirements are up to the powers above.

[Stig]

Hummmm... wouldn't that be one step further? What worked fine for RTW medium would work only for MTW2 low?
Erhh yeah true, my bad


stig, you can not edit posts until you get full membership. at your posts rate it won't be long.
mmm I expected that you atleast would be able to edit your post

[Sun of Chersonesos]

:focus:

[highlanddave]

sorry, Sun of Chersonesos, back to system requirements....

[Sun of Chersonesos]

lol im embarrassed now :oops:

[highlanddave]

Sun of Chersonesos
no problem my friend!:laugh4:

there is a good discussion on video cards in the hardware/software forum by duke of serbia and geezer57. all their options focus on pci-express solutions.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=69099

if you have agp4x/8x like i got in my motherboard you will need other info. by the way duke of serbiaand geezer57, what would you suggest to us stone age agp4x/8x users? if you do not see this i will post on your hardware/software forum thread.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

dave, will 128 MB, RADEON X300 Series work?

[highlanddave]

dave, will 128 MB, RADEON X300 Series work?

yours is a pci-express modern card and imo will work. still worth for you to read the last cited thread to see if you want to upgrade your card to an even stronger card. the only question i would ask you is what processor are you running? knowing your video card tells me you are probably ok but to know your processor will be easier to answer.

[Stig]

Well most computers with those cards will have processors that'll work too ... most of the time.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

ok just let me run dxdiag...

Inter(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)

[highlanddave]

ok just let me run dxdiag...

Inter(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)

you are definitely ok, the minimum i saw stated was 1.8 ghz for an old pentium 4 before the dual processing.

[DukeofSerbia]

dave, will 128 MB, RADEON X300 Series work?

This card has terrrible performances.

[Underdog687]

This card has terrrible performances.

so im guessing an ATI READON X200 series is even worse, but i do have a 3.06 ghz pentuim 4.

[Stig]

Yeah normally a lower number is worse (not always tho)
Anyway you can run it, just don't expect high quality graphics, and switch to lowest graphics for MP

[Maizel]

so im guessing an ATI READON X200 series is even worse, but i do have a 3.06 ghz pentuim 4.
Get a x800, a X850

[Braden]

Best bet is to pick a range of “impending” games and build a new PC able to play those.

So, as an RTS fan I’ve chosen:

Warhammer – Mark of Chaos (looks like a Rome Clone so can’t be bad)
Company of Heros (I mean, who gets tired of WWII?)
Medieval2: Total War

With that list I know, without a doubt that my:

AMD 1800XP 1.5Ghz processor
1Gig RAM
Nvidia 4200Ti 64mb gfx card

…is certainly NOT upto the job (Warhammer and CoH are both quoting a 3Ghz processor as a MINIMUM! Expect this for M2:TW also)

Now, Ghz speed on AMD processors is a misnomer as AMD processors run faster using XP OS than Intels so Ignore that value if you have an AMD – hence my processor effectively “runs” at 1800Ghz……still too slow though.

The new names for the Intel processors are equally confusing so look at the detailed specifications.

Personally, I’m looking to have a new system built at either:

www.ginger6.com

or

www.goldenelectronics.co.uk

My recommendations are:

AMD 64bit Duel-core processor; at least a 3800+ (this means there are two processors running in tandem. Since nano-technology isn't here yet, this is the only way they can get processor speed up higher!)

At Least – 1Gb of RAM. No system running XP should have less than 512Mb of RAM as XP Professional (alone…without any other background programmes running) hogs approx 128Mb! That 128Mb you have to deduct from what you physically have in your system before you play a game….

SATA Hard drive – I’ve never worried about how big a HDD is. I have an 80Gig at the moment and if it gets full I just delete or transfer data to DVD….you don’t need a BIG HDD to play games but a FAST one will help (depending on RAM Cache) – 7200rpm is a minimum, if you can afford a 10,000rpm….wonderful.

Any Optical-Drive……actually, save your cash and just use the one out of your old machine (unless you’re selling that on).

Now then Graphics Cards……

…..A sticky issue currently. I’ve previously NEVER had any issues and have been a staunch supporter and buyer/user of Nvidia based units. That is until the latest sets of drivers caused my system and every game I tried to play….to die a horrible death.

Currently, I’d say that the Nvidia current issue drivers (that you’d really need if you’re getting a hi-end card such as a 6600 or 6800 etc) are “unstable”.

They should have ironed all this out by the time M2:TW comes out or shortly afterwards (after our community starts burning barns down and wielding pitchforks!) but AT THE MOMENT I would recommend an…….ATi card.

If you have a good chunk of money and can warrant the cost spend circa £300 GBP.

If, like me, you can’t warrant the spend, have a limited budget, only use the PC for RTS games (which generally don’t take as much power as FPS’s) then limit yourself with an Upper budget of £150 GBP.

Personally, I’m looking at a ATi Radeon X1600 Pro 256Mb PCI-E. These are just over £60 GBP but perform quite well enough for the games I’m playing now and in the near future.

RAM in Graphics Cards is not as important as chip technology e.g. If I had a 4200Ti Nvidia with 256mb RAM it would still NOT be as good as a 6200 with 128mb.

Number of “pipelines” and vertex shading (anti-analysing etc as well) are all the best counters of how good a card is.

Surf Google for reviews as well.

Always go for a PCI-E (PCI Express) card, make sure your motherboard IS compatible (PCI is not PCI-E…..).

Monitor – Not a major option in my books. A better monitor is always good but how close do you sit to the monitor you have now? There’s no reason to buy a 26” Widescreen TFT monitor for £600 if your face is only 2ft away from it!

Buy a decent monitor, capable of good resolutions and with a 60dpi rating. Don’t discount CRT monitors just because they are old technology – they’re cheap and do the same job.

I am considering a TFT now though as prices are going down but I’d never buy bigger than 19” widescreen (which you can get for £130 now).

Power Supply (PSU) – if you want to look at upgrading the system at a later date or adding in more hardware like optical drives, audio cards, cooling systems etc then get a decent wattage. You can get by with a 400w but, to be safe (and as it doesn’t cost that much more) get 500w +. I currently have a 300w which is "ok" but many hi-end gfx cards slyly need much more power! They don't tell you this officially...but they do. Sure a bigger power supply costs a tiny bit more to run but if you were that concerned about electricity bills and/or the environment you'd not be playing video games until 4am now would you?

All in all, I’m looking at between £400 - £600 GBP for a new system (excluding monitor and OS) at current prices.

Remember though. If you’re lucky, play a limited number of games and ensure you upgrade key things (like RAM and gfx cards) each year, then your PC will be happy and play all the “current” titles for the next three years.

Beyond that though, it will be new PC time again and so it starts over……there is no “technology proof” PC.

I hope this long post has been helpful to the less technical minded and hasn’t been too long and its not an attempt to say “look how brainy I am” as I’m not…..nor am I big or clever.

:dizzy2:

[Stig]

Well Braden when I use the first link www.ginger6.com I can't get any card higher then the 6000 series in my PC. Ofcourse those are good cards, but I would look for a 7600GT.

For anyone who's looking for a new, reasonably priced PC I would say, this is good:

Processor: AMD64 AM2 Athlon 3800+
Memory: 1.0GB DDR2 533mhz (Recommended)
Hard Disk Drive: 200GB S-ATA2 3.0Gb/s 8MB buffer
Optical Drive: 16x Double-Layer DVD+/-RW
Graphics card: NVidia GeForce 7600GT PCI-E 256MB DDR3 TV/DVI
Operating System: Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2
Sound Card: Onboard Sound
Internet and Networking: Onboard 10/100 network card (Built-in)
Warranty: 3 Years Standard Warranty
Case: Black/Silver ATX

And that's for 452 pounds.
Here Holland you can get the same for about 900 euros (if you're lucky)
Which means Britain is cheaper

[Braden]

Is that PC from Golden? I've noticed they are exceptionally cheap for some reason (I won't question that though).

True about ginger6 - the systems are great but the range of gfx cards are very limited, however, you can phone them direct and specify any exclusions from the package that you can't do on-line, so you can add any gfx card "after build". It does invalidate your warranty but in 4 years, I've never had a hardware or build quality issue with my current, Ginger6 built, PC.

I guess its almost worth taking the ferry over from NL for that price difference? You'd just need a different power cable!

I do have one question though - if you have a full licence for XP and the supporting installation discs - can you just install that in the new PC. My assumption is "yes", and save money on OS?

[Maizel]

Well you can do that, but you'll have to delete it from your other pc if you want to be fully legal. Since you only got a liscence for one computer.

But you can go ahead install it on as many of your computers as you want. Nobody would really care, except for microsoft maybe.

At least, that's what I think.



And to get back to topic.

Wait a while on buying new GFX cards,

In November Nvidia will supposedly launch their new lines of cards, build on the G80 core, The 8800GT and the 8800GTX

The rumors I've read so far, seem to say it's a massive pair of cards.
(save some rumord about their power ussage, but, they might ship it with a powersupply of itself)
Though I don't know if they're DX10 ready. I've read that they are, but they don't think that this set of card will be able to take full use of the later DX10 features

[Braden]

Well of course, and as this is a public forum and we'd never encourage or suggest breach of copy write in any form, I'd take it off the old system.

[Maizel]

If you did, I'm sure you wouldn't be the only person in the forums who does it.

But you're right, It's not the 'proper' thing to do.

They should be able to combat it with proper OS prices

Not the €200+

[Sun of Chersonesos]

wat card shud i get remember im radeon x300

[Maizel]

No idea, what's your budget?

[Stig]

Problem is is that you won't be able to download updates, which can cause serious security leaks in your PC.


Is that PC from Golden? I've noticed they are exceptionally cheap for some reason (I won't question that though).
Yup they are, where I live we have a firm called Norrod, damned cheap too, mainly because theya assemble it for free, and you can get any PC you want.


Though I don't know if they're DX10 ready. I've read that they are, but they don't think that this set of card will be able to take full use of the later DX10 features
Well they know DX10 is coming, so it would be stupid in my eyes not to make them DX10 ready

[Stig]

wat card shud i get remember im radeon x300
For about 120 (pounds) you can get the GeForce 7600GT, the best card when you speak price-quality.
Ofcourse if you have more to spend go bigger.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

£170?

[Maizel]

Well they know DX10 is coming, so it would be stupid in my eyes not to make them DX10 ready


Or not, some people will always buy it.
But yes i do believe it will support DX10.

But just like the early DX9 cards, they couldnyt really cope with the later games and features of DX9



£170?

You might be able to pick a Nvidia 7950GT or an ATI 1900XT up for that money, I'm not quite sure what they cost in the UK. Try some shops. Otherwise go for a 7900GT or an ATI 1800 something.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

but dont you have to install it or something? or do u just stick the card in?

[Braden]

If you’re considering to just get a new Graphics card:

First consider how much money you can spend. If you have lots, perhaps its best to consider a whole new PC?

What spec is your current PC? For example: I am not considering upgrading my graphics card as there just isn’t any point. A hi-end graphic card in a low end PC just won’t make a difference.

Small Steps – if you have a medium level PC that will “just about” run the game you want, get a graphic card that isn’t the highest you can afford. Don’t make a major leap up in hardware as this often causes other problems (e.g. PSU won’t handle the extra power draw, PC overheating etc). Look at the card you have now and upgrade perhaps two levels in the product range.

After this, the best route is a new PC as further costs would be best spent on this rather than attempting multiple upgrades – for example I generally don’t feel an upgrade in Processor is cost effective.


Graphic card installation?

The card will “plug-n-play” – just put it in (make sure you’re earthed and don’t touch the circuitry etc), secure it and connect it as per the instructions you have with it (some require additional power connections).

Power up and your BIOS will recognise it. Windows will then recognise the additional hardware and ask you for an install disc.

Put your CD in and install the software (drivers) provided first.

You can download newer drivers from the manufacturers website. EDIT: IF you need them! I can't stress this more, IF you can play the games you want, with the Drivers you have now....DON'T update! Update when you CAN'T play the games you want. - If it Ain't broke, don't fix it.

In theory, all PC hardware installation is that simple and easy (remember most PC’s are built in Korea by 12 year old’s who earn 13 pence a day), the troubles start with and mostly end with Software issues.

[Maizel]

Yep, There's usually only one way, cables or hardware will fit.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

ok, so i think im going to buy the x600 however im using a dell and is there anything i need to make sure of before i get it

[Maizel]

Yeah. Dont use a Dell =P


I wouldnt buy the x600. that thing isn't that good, and it's getting pretty outdated too.


If you solely want another videocard, i'd save up some more, and buy a 8800GS, or something, when it comes out.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

Well I Cant Really Tell What My Comp Could Handle And Whatnot

[Sun of Chersonesos]

Maizel

[Stig]

Well I Cant Really Tell What My Comp Could Handle And Whatnot
press start
type dxdiag
press enter

click save all information and post it here

[Sun of Chersonesos]

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System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 9/22/2006, 15:55:52
Machine name: SARAHDAVIES
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dimension 8400
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 476MB used, 1981MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
---------------
Card name: RADEON X300/X550 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON X300/X550 Series (0x5B60)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5B60&SUBSYS_03021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6599 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/25/2006 04:52:48, 255488 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 1/25/2006 04:52:31, 1478656 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1820-11CF-756A-0823A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x5B60
SubSys ID: 0x03021002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: SoundMAX Digital Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: smwdm.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5246 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 1/27/2005 15:31:06, 260352 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Analog Devices
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): Yes
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Description: Modem #0 Line Playback (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 81
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider:
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: SoundMAX Digital Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: smwdm.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5246 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 1/27/2005 15:31:06, 260352 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xCCC

Description: Modem #0 Line Record (emulated)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
Date and Size:
Cap Flags: 0x20
Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SoundMAX Digital Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x265A
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC016
| | Location: Optical USB Mouse
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03&subclass_01
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 36224 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 20992 bytes
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/17/2001 14:02:20, 9600 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC016
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Passed, Half Duplex: Passed, Mic: Passed
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: Intel(R) 537EP V9x DFV PCI Modem
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM3
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Network Bridge - IPv6 - fe80::11:11ff:fed1:3e8f
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface - IPv6 - fe80::5445:5245:444f
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface - IPv6 - 2002:acc8:a3a1::acc8:a3a1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface - IPv6 - fe80::5efe:
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface - IPv6 - fe80::5efe:
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Network Bridge - IPv4 -
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: {CAE615BB-A4CD-4DA7-A2EC-B49A0DD8F588} - IPv4 -

-----------------------
DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

-------------------------
DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
Drive: C:
Free Space: 127.4 GB
Total Space: 149.7 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD1600JD-75HBC0

Drive: D:
Model: SONY CDRW/DVD CRX330E
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
--------------
Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266F&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&F9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 13:51:52, 3328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:44, 95360 bytes

Name: SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&F2
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:00, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys, 5.12.0001.5246 (English), 1/27/2005 15:31:06, 260352 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\senfilt.sys, 5.10.0000.3614 (English), 9/17/2004 09:02:54, 732928 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smwdmif.dll, 5.02.0003.0000 (English), 1/27/2005 15:51:30, 286720 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe, 5.02.0000.0005 (English), 10/14/2004 14:42:54, 1404928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system\crlds3d.dll, 4.12.0001.2002 (English), 9/19/2001 12:47:14, 765952 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PostProc.dll, 5.02.0000.0007 (English), 10/5/2004 16:10:58, 23040 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Edcrypt.dll, 1.00.0000.0008 (English), 9/23/2004 07:55:34, 311296 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM SMBus Controller - 266A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266A&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCI Express Root Port - 2662
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2662&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&E1
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM PCI Express Root Port - 2660
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2660&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&E0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_265C&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&EF
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 26624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 7168 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265B
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_265B&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&EB
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_265A&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&EA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2659
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2659&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&E9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2658
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2658&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2652&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&FA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 4.05.0000.6515 (English), 6/29/2004 11:17:16, 477952 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801FB LPC Interface Controller - 2640
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2640&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&172E68DD&0&F8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 13:58:02, 35840 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 925X PCI Express Root Port - 2585
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2585&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&172E68DD&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 925X Memory Controller Hub - 2584
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2584&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_04\3&172E68DD&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_D3\3&172E68DD&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:07:48, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 537EP V9x DFV PCI Modem
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1080&SUBSYS_10001028&REV_04\4&10416D21&0&08F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\IntelC51.sys, 2.15.0036.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:14:42, 1233525 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\IntelC52.sys, 4.58.0005.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:15:34, 647929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\IntelC53.sys, 2.15.0036.0002 (English), 6/15/2004 22:52:40, 61157 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\mohfilt.sys, 7.11.0000.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:13:38, 37048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\intelmoh.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:13:26, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mhwt.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:13:12, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IntelCci.dll, 5.00.0000.0000 (English), 3/5/2004 22:12:56, 34293 bytes

Name: Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_1677&SUBSYS_01771028&REV_01\4&1D7EFF9E&0&00E0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys, 7.73.0000.0000 (English), 5/29/2004 17:41:54, 186112 bytes

Name: RADEON X300/X550 Series Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5B70&SUBSYS_03031002&REV_00\4&16EC1A1&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6599 (English), 1/25/2006 04:52:31, 1478656 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0005 (English), 1/25/2006 04:15:24, 40960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 1/25/2006 05:01:22, 26928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 10/14/2005 16:10:12, 58560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 10/14/2005 16:10:13, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 10/14/2005 16:10:13, 1114674 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6599 (English), 1/25/2006 04:52:48, 255488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0309 (English), 1/25/2006 04:10:37, 258048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:57, 26112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0379 (English), 1/25/2006 04:36:49, 2604128 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0089 (English), 1/25/2006 04:30:18, 860192 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 12/8/2005 23:01:06, 112421 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0008 (English), 1/25/2006 04:44:57, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 1/25/2006 04:16:08, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 11:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4129 (English), 1/25/2006 04:45:24, 405504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4129 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:38, 61440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2498 (English), 1/25/2006 04:47:18, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0015 (English), 1/25/2006 04:47:04, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2500 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:50, 41472 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0034 (English), 1/25/2006 04:16:49, 151552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2215.38689 (English), 1/25/2006 03:29:40, 282624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 12/2/2005 19:20:29, 6005 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.5646 (English), 1/25/2006 04:13:53, 5115904 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1050 (English), 1/25/2006 04:30:27, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 1/25/2006 04:28:12, 307200 bytes

Name: RADEON X300/X550 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5B60&SUBSYS_03021002&REV_00\4&16EC1A1&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6599 (English), 1/25/2006 04:52:31, 1478656 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0005 (English), 1/25/2006 04:15:24, 40960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 1/25/2006 05:01:22, 26928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 10/14/2005 16:10:12, 58560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 10/14/2005 16:10:13, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 10/14/2005 16:10:13, 1114674 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6599 (English), 1/25/2006 04:52:48, 255488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0309 (English), 1/25/2006 04:10:37, 258048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:57, 26112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0379 (English), 1/25/2006 04:36:49, 2604128 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0001.0089 (English), 1/25/2006 04:30:18, 860192 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 12/8/2005 23:01:06, 112421 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0008 (English), 1/25/2006 04:44:57, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 1/25/2006 04:16:08, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 11:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4129 (English), 1/25/2006 04:45:24, 405504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4129 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:38, 61440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2498 (English), 1/25/2006 04:47:18, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0015 (English), 1/25/2006 04:47:04, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2500 (English), 1/25/2006 04:46:50, 41472 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0034 (English), 1/25/2006 04:16:49, 151552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2215.38689 (English), 1/25/2006 03:29:40, 282624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 12/2/2005 19:20:29, 6005 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.5646 (English), 1/25/2006 04:13:53, 5115904 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1050 (English), 1/25/2006 04:30:27, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 1/25/2006 04:28:12, 307200 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 35328 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2032 English Final Retail 4/7/2006 16:17:49 1224704 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1125 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 10.00.0000.3802 English Final Retail 1/28/2005 13:44:28 221184 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2749 English Final Retail 8/30/2005 04:54:26 1287168 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3928 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 246302 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:40 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 1428480 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 05:00:00 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,10.00.0000.3802
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Render Dib New,0x00200000,1,1,ezrgb24.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
FinePix Color Filter,0x00200000,1,1,FxColorFt.ax,1.00.0000.0000
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Fujifilm Setup Filter,0x00200000,1,1,FujifilmSetupFilter.ax,0.04.0000.0005
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3802
CyberLink Line21 Decoder Filter,0x00200000,0,2,CLLine21.ax,4.00.0000.4418
CyberLink Video/SP Decoder DELL 5.3,0x00600000,2,3,CLVSD.ax,6.00.0000.0818
CyberLink AudioCD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,CLAudioCD.ax,5.00.0000.1305
CyberLink TimeStretch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,clauts.ax,1.00.0000.2519
CyberLink DVD Navigator,0x00600000,0,3,CLNavX.ax,5.03.0000.1209
CyberLink Audio Decoder,0x00601000,1,1,claud.ax,6.00.0000.1423
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Sonic Cinemaster® DS VCD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,CinemasterVCDNav.dll,1.00.0000.0170
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
FinePix Rotate Filter,0x00200000,1,1,FxRotateFt.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00000000,0,0,,
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Lernout & Hauspie CELP 4.8kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 8kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 12kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Lernout & Hauspie SBC 16kbit/s,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MSN Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

Audio Capture Sources:
SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Modem #0 Line Record,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Renderers:
SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CyberLink Audio Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,cladr.ax,6.00.0000.1319
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DirectSound: Modem #0 Line Playback (emulated),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DirectSound: SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Modem #0 Line Playback,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming System Devices:
SoundMAX Digital Audio,0x00200000,16,2,,5.03.2600.2180

and yes i know how to run dxdiag lol

[Sun of Chersonesos]

he told me to

[Maizel]

What the?

Lol!


A new graphics card will be enough to play the game decently

[Stig]

He wanted to know if he can install that card, looking at his dx-diag he can

[Sun of Chersonesos]

man i got an answer from you 5 minutes ago, you couldnt have read through all that?

[Sun of Chersonesos]

however going back to what braden said... what CD install disk? when i saw the thing it looked like just a card and no CD whats the situation?

[Dutch_guy]

Hello Sun of Chersonesos,

As we're straying more and more off topic, let me point you out to the Hard- and software (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=132)area of these fora. They'll help you out in no time.:2thumbsup:

:balloon2:

[Sun of Chersonesos]

thank you,

sorry for spamming the topic

[King Noob the Stupid]

German wikipedia says "Die Minimumanforderungen sind eine 3D Karte mit mindestens 256MB und 1024MB RAM sowie ein mindestens 2,0 GHz schneller Prozessor."
("The minimum requirements are a 3D card with at least 256 MB and 1024 MB of RAM as well as a processor with at least 2.0 GHz"). To me it seems greatly exaggerated but I wonder what the wiki's source is...

[SirGrotius]

The subject of the post explains it all really. What are the system requirements for M2TW? I am eagerly anticipating this game (after all it says on amazon that it wil be historically accurate) yet I do have a low spec PC (256MB RAM, 128MB Nvidia Geforce 4 MX 4000, 1.5 Ghz AMD Athlon Processer). So I really need to knbow whether I can play it before I pre-order it.
Thankyou

You'll need to upgrade for any new game these days.

[Maizel]

German wikipedia says "Die Minimumanforderungen sind eine 3D Karte mit mindestens 256MB und 1024MB RAM sowie ein mindestens 2,0 GHz schneller Prozessor."
("The minimum requirements are a 3D card with at least 256 MB and 1024 MB of RAM as well as a processor with at least 2.0 GHz"). To me it seems greatly exaggerated but I wonder what the wiki's source is...
I dont think 256 MB of Video Memory is the Minimum

Im pretty sure

[Stig]

I dont think 256 MB of Video Memory is the Minimum

Im pretty sure
Yup if 256 is the maximum loads of people can't play it. 128 will be the minimum, pretty sure about that

[DukeofSerbia]

Yup if 256 is the maximum loads of people can't play it. 128 will be the minimum, pretty sure about that

Agree. More important is which card.

[doc_bean]

Those system requirements are insane if they want to target the masses...

They might lie on the box though, civ4 needs 1GB of RAM to play yet they claimed 512mb was enough...

[Lord_Phan]

Those system requirements are insane if they want to target the masses...

They might lie on the box though, civ4 needs 1GB of RAM to play yet they claimed 512mb was enough...


Not true, I have 512 Ram and Civ4 runs perfectly on high settings. Maybe it's a combination of factors or Virtual Memory. But my computer runs it fine with a 128MB Radeon 9600, 512MB ram and P4 2GHZ processor. I'm gonna upgrade for MTW2 though. Which will lead to my next post below.....

[Lord_Phan]

I was thinking of upgrading but I don't even have a PCI-E slot on my computer. Just 512MB ram, P4 2GHZ Processor, 128MB ATI Radeon 9600 XT -AGP.

Windows XP Home Edition and a Soundblaster Card.


But I figure I should just bite the bullet and invest in a new computer.

Saw this computer while searching

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/dt_xps700?c=ca&cs=CADHS1&l=en&s=dhs


Very Pricey and only MAYBE I can do it. Is it worth it? Will It last me 10 years? Can I run the game on MAX settings if I buy it?

and what parts are a must? I was told the basic processor on that model a 1.86 GHZ Dual Processor is more power then I'd need? Is that true?

If I can't get the Dual 512 MB card cuz of price would the 1GB non-Dual GPU do me?

And please.... don't say build it yourself... I know what most parts are, how they work and what they do, but didn't even like installing my GPU or Soundcard for fear of breaking something.

Thank you in advance.

[doc_bean]

We have a hardware forum where you should really post something like this, or at least have a look around, since a lot of people seem to be upgrading now.




http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/dt_xps700?c=ca&cs=CADHS1&l=en&s=dhs


Very Pricey and only MAYBE I can do it. Is it worth it? Will It last me 10 years? Can I run the game on MAX settings if I buy it?

IMHO it's not worth it, it's going to last you a good 5 years probably (if nothing fails). Do you really need a new monitor ? New dvd drives etc ? New Windows ? These things drive up the price a lot, and 3000$ is a small fortune. I you want a whole new system I'd suggest looking at the 1500-2000$ price class. They will last you a little less long (should still be 3-5 years easily) but you'll end up paying less in the long run. With a system like this you really pay for getting the 'best' stuff available, which is usually not that much better than the second best thing and will usually become outdated around the same time, hardware tends to evolve in big steps (in my experience) and when a new generation arrives, the difference between best and average of the previous generation gets pretty small.

But you shouldn't just listen to me of course, go to the hardware forum.



and what parts are a must? I was told the basic processor on that model a 1.86 GHZ Dual Processor is more power then I'd need? Is that true?

Hard to say really, it isn't just about clock speed anymore.


If I can't get the Dual 512 MB card cuz of price would the 1GB non-Dual GPU do me?

I'm not a big fan of dual cards and 1Gb seems a bit much to me for current gen cards, certainly considering the extra cost.



And please.... don't say build it yourself... I know what most parts are, how they work and what they do, but didn't even like installing my GPU or Soundcard for fear of breaking something.

Thank you in advance.

Most shops will build a computer for you for a 'reasonable' price (75€ here), you can ask them if they can still use your old case and perhipals and then just add a new mobo+processor+memory+GPU. $1000 should then be enough to revitalize your computer.

[Sun of Chersonesos]

I was thinking of upgrading but I don't even have a PCI-E slot on my computer. Just 512MB ram, P4 2GHZ Processor, 128MB ATI Radeon 9600 XT -AGP.

You will not be able to play MTW2 with that graphics card, your RAM could just about hold it on Low resolution, but that graphics card is terrible your computer would blow up

[rory_20_uk]

The number of times I've beenstung by "futureproofing" my PC is more that I care to remember. Every time it is such a good idea, then I see that a newer, better, smaller one is there when I upgrade (e.g. My SLI compatible motherboard - cheaper and better to get a new GPU than a second old one).

A PC that lasts 3 is doing well.
And let's not forget Windows Vista is coming out with all new requirements for everything. This type of things will probably repeat every now and again, as happens with standard features in graphics cards. Older ones just don't have them.

IMO get a nice case. Get DVD/CD drives you like, as well as speakers and a monitor, and accept that the CPU, motherboard and graphics card all need to be replaced together.

My brother is going through this: keep the old memory - well, that's a speed bottleneck.
Keep the motherboard: old bus, doesn't have the mdern CPU compatibility.
GPU: too slow
CPU too slow.

But then I like making my PC as then I know what is in there, and have an idea how to fix it.

~:smoking:

[Caius]

I bet 512MB of Ram will be the minimum...MTW was 128MB, RTW was 256MB, so probably M2TW will be 512MB of RAM requred...

For MTW my PC was basically at the minimum across the board (I had 350MHz, 128 MB of RAM and a 32MB PCI video card). I could play single player, but at times I would get some lag) I think I was able to play on large units but I am sure I turned down(off) many of the graphics settings.

so as long as you have the minimum you will probably be able to play but I think your 1.5Ghz processer is below the 1.8Ghz required..

I think if you don't play multi player you could get a bottom end computer and it will be fine. I think the main thing is to make sure you have 128MB of video memory. Of course the better card you have the more units you can have on the screen and the higher the graphics settings.
RTW in XP usses 256 MB, but in Windows 98 is 128 MB, so
M2TW consummes 256 MB in W98 SE?or M2TW doesnt works on W98?

[Stig]

M2TW consummes 256 MB in W98 SE?or M2TW doesnt works on W98?
I think it will work, it's not a big difference if I'm correct. But to be sure check, 10 of the latest games and see if they work on 98

[Kourutsu]

I give up. How do you find out your graphic card's specs?

[SirGrotius]

I give up. How do you find out your graphic card's specs?

Start--Control Panel--Display--Settings--Advanced (tab). Your graphics card should be indicated in the upper right tab. If it's integrated you can proceed to cry.

[Stig]

I give up. How do you find out your graphic card's specs?
what you also can do, and what works better for me personally is this:
Start > Run
type dxdiag
hit enter
click save all information

The file you just saved has the information all in it, just scroll down to:
display devices to see what card you have

[timsemand]

I dont think it can run on w98, i have'nt seen a game in the last two years that can run on w98. But anyway who still got w98.

[Stig]

I dont think it can run on w98, i have'nt seen a game in the last two years that can run on w98. But anyway who still got w98.
There are enough people who own it, maybe even more then the amount of people that have dail-up (which is loads of people)

Next to that I can play civ2 on my XP so why can't I play MTW2 on 98?[/n00b question]

[Caius]

GAH!
Acording to the members who posted here, i cant run M2TW
I'm not having an integrated card, I have a Nvidia FX 5200 3D card
1.5 Ghz processor
256 MB ram
Maybe the only solution is playing RTW and play the demo

[Stig]

Well just try the demo, if that works the game works, you may be on utter minimum but sometimes that doesn't really matter, you just get lag, if you want to live with that, you can try it

[Kourutsu]

Okay! Moment of truth here.

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Card name:256.0 MB RADEON X600XT

Will that suffice? Tell me now, and tell me straight.

[Stig]

Oh that'll work more then fine

[DukeofSerbia]

Okay! Moment of truth here.

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Card name:256.0 MB RADEON X600XT

Will that suffice? Tell me now, and tell me straight.

Graphics card can be better. If you have money buy GeForce7600GT.

[Kourutsu]

Lets say I keep my card.

Will I be running on minimum, or moderate?

[DukeofSerbia]

X600 is Radeon 9600Pro. I think minimum, no matter how much RAM you have or fast processor. Just look how graphics in MII TW is brilliant.

[Stig]

Lets say I keep my card.

Will I be running on minimum, or moderate?
Depends what you want, personally I don't give that much about shadows and such. So by turning these of you have a change of getting a normal medium. Water reflection, well they can go of to, and some more things. By turning these secondaries of you can go for medium

[Bob the Insane]

I would rather splash out on building myself a monster machine, but the wife is always going on about "saving money", usually after she has picked up some rediculously expensive orniment... I mean honestly, who pays $200 for fossilized mud???

[Incongruous]

Its at times like these that I wish I had one of these monstershttp://www.onsale.com/shop/detail~dpno~7114181.aspx
I want Shader Model 3.0:shame:

Istead I got this old boy.
http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/x800xt/

[ciprianrusu]

I know my comp. will not be able to run MTW 2 (1.2 GHZ CPU, 384 DDR,and a GeForce 7500 256 RAM0, but my question is what should i buy:
CPU evidently, but how strong?
RAM's evidently, but how many?
and is my video card good enough?
And if my little knowledge about computers are correct, i also need to replace my motherboard in order that my future new CPU should work, isn't it?

[Maizel]

Err You're better off getting a whole new sytem

Be sure to get plenty of informationf rom websites and retailers before you buy anything.

Also invest some time into checking wether your new-bought system will eb future proof, meaning, that there is some room for expansion/upgrading, cause getting a ceretain socket that is getting phased out in half a year anyway, isn;t worth the while (AMD anyone?)

[Kourutsu]

It sucks having OCD. Even the slightest lag makes me want to stop playing.

I can't bear to run on minimum. I mean for RTW, I have it on all the best settings. All the extras are on as well! And even the largest battles dont lag!

Then again...with MTW 2 having graphics to the equivalence of pure crystal meth...I suppose toning them down wont matter.

[Incongruous]

I understand you're pain my friend.
Going from Highest to Medium is not something I really want to think about.

[Lanfire]

Well i made a new pc for MTW2.

Pentium duo shizzel E6600 $300


2 gig ram $170
a new mobo GA -something -DS3 $160
a new videocart 7900 GTO 512 mb $270

so about 900 dollars i think i'm ready.. but who knows

[JR-]

Well i made a new pc for MTW2.

Pentium duo shizzel E6600 $300


2 gig ram $170
a new mobo GA -something -DS3 $160
a new videocart 7900 GTO 512 mb $270

so about 900 dollars i think i'm ready.. but who knows

almost precisely what i am getting.

[Eusebius86]

I have an outdated Pentium 4 Processor @ 3.2GHz, 1.5 GB DDR2 RAM, 7200 RPM Seagate HD, and a brand new Geforce 7600GT. I can run the game on almost the highest graphic settings on 1280x1024 without experiencing any lag.

I know that the game supports dual-core processors, but does it actually take advantage of them? I'm eye-balling an AMD FX2 5300+ on Newegg.com for only $125 right now... I'm just not ready to purchase a different motherboard.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hello Eusebius86,

I know that the game supports dual-core processors, but does it actually take advantage of them? I'm eye-balling an AMD FX2 5300+ on Newegg.com for only $125 right now... I'm just not ready to purchase a different motherboard.M2:TW alone doesn't take advantage of the extra core. The Kingdoms add-on is claimed to do so, but the research of some members seems to state otherwise.
Hope this helps, good luck, cheers!

[Fianna]

I finally picked this up a couple of weeks ago. I was enjoying most of it right away...until I got into siege situations. The whole thing spit and stuttered like a car with an inefficient exhaust system. It slowed to an absolute crawl. Dipping into task manager to close down "unnecessary" items didn't work too well.

As of right now I have an Asrock board with 2.4 GHz chip, and 512MB 184 pin RAM, and 512 168 pin RAM. I am looking at swapping out the 184 pin for a 1GB stick but I don't know if 1GB 168 pin RAM is available. Will the extra 500GB help? I'm really not sure.

I've been thinking about building my own box lately, and this might be the thing that pushed me over the brink.

[Henry707]

Hi All,

I know I'm pushing my luck here with a non-MTW query but I have a graphics problems & wondered if anyone had any advice.

I have an nvidia fx5500 & MTW2 runs OK on low settings with all the options off! I have tried to upgrade before but found that the newer cards don't fit into my dell motherboard - the slots are different shapes (to use the technical phrase!).

Any help would ne much appreciated, I did try to ring dell but as anyone in the UK will be able to tell you, they have moved from Ireland & are now impossible to use.

Thanks in advance

Henry