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Hi,
Does anyone know an exact date for demo release?Since CA says the demo will appear very soon,I assume that that will be this week.Anyone know better?
shifty157
09-11-2006, 20:09
They havent said a thing.
I am simply guessing, but by the pace of marketing and the number of trade shows in which they have tested the demo on limited audiences, this week would make sense. However, what makes sense to me rarely fits with reality ~:)
Nah I doubt this week.
My guess, in 2 weeks, maybe next week if we are lucky.
Bob the Insane
09-11-2006, 20:38
I would not expect to see it until a week or two before release...
That way you get everyone all excited but don't give them the chance pick it to pieces before the full release...
But you never know...
King Noob the Stupid
09-11-2006, 20:40
Did they say if the demo will be battles only or if we'll also be able to do a little campaigning (e.g. a tutorial)?
Well if it was a week or 2 before release then they wouldn't use words like "imminent" or "upon us"
The release date for the game is 2 months away, that's not imminent.
The other demos was released around 1 month before release but that is still far away for it to be "soon upon us".
Mount Suribachi
09-11-2006, 21:10
Did they say if the demo will be battles only or if we'll also be able to do a little campaigning (e.g. a tutorial)?
IIRC there is a tutorial and the battles of Agincourt and that one between the HRE, France and Spain (somebody throw me a frickin bone here).
We keep hearing "soon". The demo is done, people have played it, but CA have said they are putting the finishing touches to it before it goes on public release. I would check when the next issue of PC Gamer UK comes out. Ian Roxborough (CA PR man) used to work there and they get a lot of scoops, like demos on coverdiscs.
Ibn Munqidh
09-11-2006, 22:04
The Demo Includes:
-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)
I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!
Crusader Invasion
09-11-2006, 22:15
I'm guessing sometime in October but it would be great if it was next week.:bow:
King Noob the Stupid
09-11-2006, 22:34
The Demo Includes:
-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)
So there won't be campaign demo?
So there won't be campaign demo?
No.
RTW and BI didn't have one either so it is normal for CA to do this.
King Noob the Stupid
09-11-2006, 22:47
Well ok, we can still use it to test our hardware...
Well ok, we can still use it to test our hardware...
Which the most important thing I think for most of us :laugh4:
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-12-2006, 09:08
The Demo Includes:
-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)
I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!
I don't think so. This demo is nearly one month old. They showed the demo already on the games convention in Leipzig. I think they made a new demo. Hopefully with 8 factions on a nice stepp map. To test, tactics, performance and formations.
That would be great.
Best Regards
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
I don't think so. This demo is nearly one month old. They showed the demo already on the games convention in Leipzig. I think they made a new demo.
They won't make a new demo.
If we are lucky it is the same demo but without the bugs but doubt it.
But the overall feelings from the people that played the demo is that it is very good anyway.
Basileus
09-12-2006, 09:30
It will get released one month before the actual game release, like all the other TW games...my bet anyways heh
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-12-2006, 09:31
They won't make a new demo.
If we are lucky it is the same demo but without the bugs but doubt it.
But the overall feelings from the people that played the demo is that it is very good anyway.
But this demo is more a graphical demonstration than a gameplay demo. E.g. the computer enemies are too closed at the beginning. It was not possible to test different formations. And there was only a few units per side. (not 20). We can only test the performance if somebody make a mod to increase the unit numbers up to 6000-8000 men (like a 3vs3).
It is a gameplay demo just like all the other demos was.
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-12-2006, 09:58
It is a gameplay demo just like all the other demos was.
Sorry but I expect from a demo to show the capabilities of the game engine. This mean at least 6000 - 8000 men on the battlefield (as usual in a normal 3vs3)! After the Rome Demo I bought the game and I was disappointed. This will not happen again.
Sorry but I expect from a demo to show the capabilities of the game engine. This mean at least 6000 - 8000 men on the battlefield (as usual in a normal 3vs3)! After the Rome Demo I bought the game and I got disappointed. This will not happen again.
Well if you can't handle that many troops in RTW then certainly won't handle it now either.
Demos are suppose to give you a sample of what to expect, not the whole deal.
The historical battles are a good test from gameplay and hardware performance.
x-dANGEr
09-12-2006, 15:40
3 on 3's take up to 8000 men on the battlefield.. What do you do when you play, pick all peasents!!
The current average for a 3 on 3 is 4000 men. (Maybe more is possible on M: TW <--- 2D, but I doubt your PC can handle up to 8000 men on RTW, rather than Medieval TWO: TW..)
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-12-2006, 17:24
3 on 3's take up to 8000 men on the battlefield.. What do you do when you play, pick all peasents!!
Come to MTW Vi and I show you my army. :balloon2:
The current average for a 3 on 3 is 4000 men. (Maybe more is possible on M: TW <--- 2D, but I doubt your PC can handle up to 8000 men on RTW, rather than Medieval TWO: TW..)
6 player --> 7000 / 6 = 1166
In MTW 1 we have 16 units and an army has between 900 and 1000 soldier. In MTW 2 you have 20 slots. 950 * 20 / 16 = ca. 1200 * 6 = 7200
e.g.
Byz Army:
3 pav: 180
4 Byz inf.:400
2 varanger guard: 120
7 cav: 280
= 980 soldier.
This is MTW m8 and not Rome. I expect 6000-8000 soldiers on a new medium PC. 4000 soldier and 3vs3 means 666 ;) soldier each. Let us make the calculation backward:
Byz Army ( 20 slots):
4 pav(30): 120
6 Byz inf.(50):300
2 varanger guard (30): 60
8 cav ( 20): 160
= 640 soldier.
But how should this look like?? A cav with 20 soldier?? Or 30 men pavs?? LOL No way.
x-dANGEr
09-12-2006, 20:08
That's RTW mate, or what I like to call the "3D world". It is simply, like.. almost impossible to run a 8000 men battle with all graphics on max with a good FPS rate (30+) in RTW.. I didn't test any new cards, but I know that 8000 men on the battlefield with GFX set to high and on M2: TW is like a miracle to happen with the normal PC home-users..
P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-12-2006, 23:41
That's RTW mate, or what I like to call the "3D world". It is simply, like.. almost impossible to run a 8000 men battle with all graphics on max with a good FPS rate (30+) in RTW.. I didn't test any new cards, but I know that 8000 men on the battlefield with GFX set to high and on M2: TW is like a miracle to happen with the normal PC home-users..
Yes, that's correct. I am too addicted in MTW Vi as I could accept that MTW 2 is ROME 2 :embarassed: Okay this will mean, that I will play MTW Vi as long as possible and our clan ( and I think also other MTW VI clans ) will leave the TW community. I don't like Rome. I dont like the unit size of Rome and I don't like small Armies with 600 men and much more. But well, thats life. We don'T need graphics. We need gameplay. If the graphics is more important than the gameplay, there must be something wrong. At the moment it is modern to have good marketing. The product can be crap, but the most important is the visual.
P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.
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In MTW a cav has 40 men, a inf normally 60, anti cav 100 men (billmen 60). These size is optimal to play. If you have a cav with 20 men, after one mistake, the cav is dead... 40 men inf is too small for good formations. My opinion.
Sry for off topic and I will stop whining now.
Best Regards
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
IrishArmenian
09-12-2006, 23:57
The Demo Includes:
-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)
I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!
I think you swiched those. Shoodn't it be Agincourt (England-France), Pavia (HRE/Spain-France)?
Ibn Munqidh
09-13-2006, 00:40
I think you swiched those. Shoodn't it be Agincourt (England-France), Pavia (HRE/Spain-France)?
Yah, lol, sure, sorry, I didnt notice then:dizzy2:
Incongruous
09-13-2006, 05:26
It was staed over a week ago that the demo would be released soon, and judging from all the publicity and playing it has received I can only guess it will be out in a week or two.
BaldwinIV
09-17-2006, 15:05
Maybe in the end of this month. I've such feelings... :idea2:
P.S. A Cavalry unit count to 27 men in RTW. An "elite" infantry unit count either 12 men or 18 men. A normal one counts 41/40. A stacked one count 60, and the odd peasant unit counts as 80.
Thats only if you've got a crappy computer and you're playing with tiny unit sizes.
Underdog687
09-18-2006, 00:53
Hope it is within 2 weeks
Which the most important thing I think for most of us :laugh4:
Although it must be said, that all the demo's in the Total War series so far, were wuite unstable and way more demanding on your pc than the finished product.
But you're right to say it'll be a good indication
I'm dying to see the demo, just to check how and if it works on my comp. As to the date, my guess would be the beginning of October, but who knows.
Leaving TW players without any official details concerning system requirements and without the demo is pretty cruel.
Any enws yet? I keep wetting myself dreaming bout this game and I'm running out of sheets :wall:
Any enws yet? I keep wetting myself dreaming bout this game and I'm running out of sheets :wall:
No news yet mate :(
Why can't CA just tell us?
Anyway,I'm pretty sure the demo is going to appear this week or next week :2thumbsup:
Sun of Chersonesos
09-24-2006, 19:21
The Demo Includes:
-Battle Tutorial
-Battle of Agincourt (HRE/Spain-France)
-Battle of Pavia (England-France)
I hope it gets released this week or the next, IM DYING TO PLAY SOMETHING!!!
hang on, does it also do part custom battle also?
Ibn Munqidh
09-24-2006, 20:43
hang on, does it also do part custom battle also?
On the pic that showed the demo menu (its somewhere....), there was no custom battle option.
Polemists
09-24-2006, 21:03
Lucky,
While I realize quite a few people seem to want more from the demo. I would like you all to keep in mind CA is giving us more. If anyone remebers the rome total war demo, we got ONE batttle, and we could play as ONE faction.
This time we get two battles, and we have two factions. So think of it as double the value.
Also not sure if this matters to anyone but
http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm55.showMessage?topicID=4128.topic
Basically PC Gamer is having the demo come out, in there next magazine edition. Basically if you ignore the junk of chat, the magazine will hit store shelves on Oct 26, if you subscribe to it, you'll recieve it in the mail on Oct 23.
I don't really know what to make of this. If it's true they have a exclusive you guys probably all have a good solid month to wait. Anyway thought that would alleviate some people at least.
OMG that can't be serious dude!
CA said the demo was near completion,and that public release will be very soon.
I hope you are wrong mate and that the demo won't release 26th october,because that's long waiting :D
Polemists
09-24-2006, 21:08
Well uhm,
Well if you scroll down you can see a picture of the back of mag stating they are getting it next month, and they have some sort of exclusive.
Hey I hope i'm wrong, but then again who knows what soon means with CA. Maybe a month is soon.
Yea I know but they said : 'soon' in the beginning of september :no: :shame:
Sun of Chersonesos
09-24-2006, 21:59
well it would be nice to have maybe 2 historical battles, prologue tutorial for the campaign,3 grand campaign factions and 5 custom batle factions. thats not really too much to ask i dont think
I was kinda hoping that we'd get the Norman Conquest of England part in the demo
Martinaz
09-24-2006, 22:25
I was kinda hoping that we'd get the Norman Conquest of England part in the demo
Why do you want not to be too obsessed?
I was kinda hoping thawe get the demo fast.
Polemists
09-25-2006, 03:02
Factions in grand campaign? If they let you play through whole thing even as one faction i'd ruin a variety of surprises and the like.
Whether people like it or not there are two major selling factors to most people in new total war, graphics engine, and new campaign map things.
They can't just let you choose any army you want because then they have no surprise there. The tutorial can't show you a entire faction area because then you'd lose something there.
Like I said if you honestly consider RTW just had one battle. You are getting 2 historical battles (preset factions), and a prologue. It's not a bad deal. Sides the demo isn't made for purpose of you having something to do for a month. Fact is despite tons of cool animations, there will only be so many ways to adjust your army (till someone mods it). It's just meant to remind people total war is coming out, and test out battle engine. At this stage though since everyone knows what there getting you might as well just learn to accept.
SirGrotius
09-25-2006, 05:42
I imagine the demo will be out in early to mid October. IIRC the Rome demo was released very soon before RTW hit the shelves. I do also remember the Rome demo being sluggish compared to the final game, so I suppose that CK will be optimizing their code during those final few weeks or however long that takes.
Orda Khan
09-25-2006, 09:55
Rest assured that once the modding community gets hold of the demo we will have more battle options; remember BI?
......Orda
I hope it will come soon and then kill some french:2thumbsup:
Bob the Insane
09-25-2006, 11:36
There was another thread about PC Gamer UK claiming to have an exclusive on the demo and the next mag comes out on the 26th October...
I hope it will come soon and then kill some french:2thumbsup:
How English of you...
:skull: :skull: :skull: Down 'Vith The English Ca niggihits!!!:skull: :skull: :skull:
There was another thread about PC Gamer UK claiming to have an exclusive on the demo and the next mag comes out on the 26th October...
That sounds likely with Amazon.co.uk giving 24th November as the game's release data - the demo a month before release sounds about right.
That sounds likely with Amazon.co.uk giving 24th November as the game's release data - the demo a month before release sounds about right.
Omg if that's true,then its awefully long waiting for the demo :(
Still a month then :no:
Sun of Chersonesos
09-25-2006, 17:38
in that case, a prologue tutorial thing and 6 custom battle faction and 2 historic battle. thats not too much too ask, that's just a fraction of what the whole game has to offer
Zatoichi
09-25-2006, 19:35
That sounds likely with Amazon.co.uk giving 24th November as the game's release data - the demo a month before release sounds about right.
That's not all Amazon are saying - they're now stating:
Pre-order exclusive--Pre-order Medieval 2:Total War and get access to an exclusive demo of the game. A link to download the demo will be sent to you by email at the end of October.
So - just how exclusive is exclusive these days, eh? Reminds me of the 'World Exclusive' banner that gets slapped on stories available in all the other tabloid 'news'papers over here...
Anyway, looks like we'll get our hands on it at the end of October via one exclusive deal or another, which is pretty cool no matter how you slice it.
Byzantine Emperor
09-25-2006, 19:44
I hope it will come soon and then kill some french:2thumbsup:
How English of you... Thats the spirit! :laugh4:
I can't wait for a 100 years war either. :embarassed:
I am eagerly awaiting the demo...
Polemists
09-26-2006, 06:03
http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B000ENN9AG/ref=s9_asin_title_1/026-3606021-9237207
Once again it is looking as if late oct is the date of demo.
"Pre-order exclusive--Pre-order Medieval 2:Total War and get access to an exclusive demo of the game. A link to download the demo will be sent to you by email at the end of October."
I'm just sayin it dosn't look good for all you people hoping it comes out first week of oct.The good news October is only a few days away. :) Then you can all do this monthly countdown demo thing once more haha :laugh4:
Till then my advice is watch alot of movies, hang on forums and do this :barrel:, alot :2thumbsup:
Nebuchadnezzar
09-26-2006, 07:48
In Australia the game is listed for release on the 31st Oct.
Wouldn't that be something to get it before the rest. GOD! I hope its true.
Griefmaker
09-26-2006, 08:56
Ok I've got the demo release date. This is quoted from my favourite store in New Zealand. This is for the Collector's Edition, it's the only one they are offering.
"Pre-order Medieval II off Gameplanet Store and you'll score yourself the chance to try the game out early! We'll send you out a special code on October 14th so that you can download the demo direct from Sega TWO FULL DAYS before it goes live to the public! :D This offer is exclusive to Gameplanet Store in New Zealand".
Here's the link with the whole details: http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1515494.html
Polemists
09-26-2006, 09:28
So let me get this straight to get the game two days earlier I have to order it from new zealand which means waiting a whole extra 6 days to get it lol. Since i'm American. I think i'll settle on oct 16 thanks :P
|Heerbann|_Di3Hard
09-26-2006, 09:36
We'll send you out a special code on October 14th so that you can download the demo direct from Sega TWO FULL DAYS before it goes live to the public! :D This offer is exclusive to Gameplanet Store in New Zealand".
Other games have a singleplayer demo and a multiplayer demo and .... and we get an "exclusive" Gameplanet PAY Demo crap. Pffff. Sega - Be brave and show us the game or let it be. These marketing behaviour dislike the most gamer. It seems to be, that marketing departments have less and less knowledge about the customers. Thats really sad. Listen to your customers or lose them.
Griefmaker
09-26-2006, 09:46
You guys are missing the point of my post. It's to show the DEMO RELEASE DATE. Not the game release date, if you look at posts higher up all they seem to know is October sum time.
So if there is a deal LIKE this in your country you can either pre-order and get the demo early on the 14th or not and DL with everyone else on the 16th
So it's not bad marketing by SEGA or forcing you to buy from New Zealand.
:dizzy2: :wall:
Well it's bad marketing, if you want to do it properly put a week inbetween, even the average .com MTW2 forum fanboy can wait for 2 days ... I guess
Black Prince
09-26-2006, 14:14
Has anyone any news or heard any rumours about when the demo is going to be available - I haven't seen any postings on this yet so thought it would be worthwhile starting one!
If the game comes out mid-November there should be something out end of September I would have thought???
Byzantine Emperor
09-26-2006, 14:28
There is already a thread on the demo:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=69095
Now if only I could close threads... :book:
Black Prince
09-26-2006, 15:03
Cheers - couldn't find it initially!
Seems that CA want to leave us in the dark as usual which is a bit sad - you'd think if PC Gamer did have an exclusive they'd be shouting about it on the totalwar.com site so that their buddies at PC Gamer would get more sales. I'm from a marketing background myself (not in the games industry) and I think CA and PC Gamer are missing a trick here and also letting down their customers with lack of info!
Polemists
09-26-2006, 17:22
Well several places are announcing it as mid october. So that's when it is. Given the history that most major filesites, gamespot, fileplanet what have you, advertise up coming demos a week before they came out, I think it's pretty safe to say September is out of the running.
Then it's all debate of which week of October that first Monday is the 2nd and I highly doubt it as we get 0 official demo news. So I would guess second or third week of october, currently seems the Third Week.
I agree tho, why CA can't even logically say something like, "Yes the demo will be out in october" Is beyond me. There lack of contact astounds me sometimes. Despite there claim to being gamers I think they can't be, no gammer would leave a fellow gamer in the dark 24/7 about a game they love other then a bi weekly blog update.
There lack of contact astounds me sometimes.
Worse, they implied somewhere that release would be "imminent", although now I can't remember where I read that (maybe Soulflame's question and answer session?). Probably just someone at CA making the mistake of being overly enthusiastic about their progress, but without that having been said I think people would have resigned themselves to a demo release around one month prior to the game's release, just like RTW (which would correspond with what we've been hearing lately). But expectations were unnecessarily heightened.
- Dan
Hochmeister
09-26-2006, 23:31
You guys are missing the point of my post. It's to show the DEMO RELEASE DATE. Not the game release date, if you look at posts higher up all they seem to know is October sum time.
So if there is a deal LIKE this in your country you can either pre-order and get the demo early on the 14th or not and DL with everyone else on the 16th
So it's not bad marketing by SEGA or forcing you to buy from New Zealand.
:dizzy2: :wall:
WoooHooo:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
One advantage to living at the bottom of the world!!
Kia Ora Bro thanks for the news,looking forward to my early demo download
Griefmaker
09-27-2006, 07:30
WoooHooo:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
One advantage to living at the bottom of the world!!
Kia Ora Bro thanks for the news,looking forward to my early demo download
Yeah mate, 14th october here we come:2thumbsup:
Don't forget to post in the GP forums once you have it, let's find out who can start a thread first about it:laugh4:
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