Destructable Defenses

[Ghengis_Bong]

Does anyone know how to make walls destructable from the campaign map? I love playing as barbarians but hate occupying settlements with higher than lvl 3 defenses. If anyone could explain to me how to edit that I would be extremely grateful.

[Caius]

Welcome to the otg!
I dont know any solution for you

[Myrddraal]

Welcome to the .org Ghengis.

Can't walls be demolished in the normal way? (Other click then press the demolish button)

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i think it is hard-coded, walls connot be destroyed normally on the campaign map and i don't think that there is any other way to do it... it is like government buildings/roads in that you can't get rid of them

sorry
GMM

[Myrddraal]

Well I never knew that...

[snevets]

I found out with BI, if only you could destroy the walls on those WRE inner empire cities that are prone to rebellion, life would be easier. Somewhere someone told me how to change a file so you could destroy normally indestructable campaign buildings... ill try to remember.

[Atilius]

One thing you could do would be to use the damage_wall console command in a background script. Each time this command is used with the "breach" switch, a breach is created in a randomly selected wall. For instance, suppose your script contains event monitors (one for each settlement) like this:



monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement SettlementName Rome
and FactionIsLocal
and SettlementBuildingExists >= stone_wall
console_command damage_wall Rome breach
console_command damage_wall Rome breach
end_monitor


Then, if one of your armies captures Rome, 2 breaches are automatically created in the city's walls. The damage to the walls can be repaired, but doesn't have to be. If you're attacked, the enemy will try to attack through the breaches. This means that there won't be any siege of course.

I've tested the damage_wall console command in a script and it works as advertised. The rest of the script above hasn't been tested but must be mostly correct. If anyone is interested, I'll make sure it (or something similar to it) works.

[EDIT: fixed a couple of problems with the script]

[Epistolary Richard]

I'd be interested! :yes:

[Atilius]

I did some testing with the following script:


script

declare_counter loop_counter
set_counter loop_counter=0

monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement SettlementName Arretium
and FactionCultureType barbarian
and SettlementBuildingExists >= stone_wall
console_command damage_wall Arretium breach
console_command damage_wall Arretium breach
end_monitor

while compare_counter loop_counter=0
end_while

end_script

This script will cause a couple of breaches in Arretium's walls if it's captured by a barbarian faction and the city has any level stone walls. It could be made faction specific by replacing


and FactionCultureType barbarian

with


and FactionType germans

As expected, the script caused a couple breaches in Arretium's (stone) walls when I captured the city playing as the Germans. The Romans laid seige to the city soon after. I didn't really expect this: I thought they would immediately attack through the breaches. Instead, they built a ram, some ladders, and a siege tower. A few turns later they attacked using only the siege tower, but most of their troops poured through the breach. (The other breach was on the opposite side of the city.) I was able to repel the attack and another army attacked a few turns later, having built a couple of rams. As usual, fire from my towers set the rams alight and the troops attacked through the breach again.

It might be worthwhile to repeat this experiment making more breaches in the walls. Perhaps this would induce the attackers to attack without building seige engines first.

Here's a short discussion on extending the above script to work for all settlements on the map:

In order to make this work for ALL settlements, an event monitor would be required for every settlement. There's also problem with the line


monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement SettlementName Narbo Martius

or for the event monitor for any two-word settlement name. The SettlementName condition requires the name string (not the name "tag") but fails to parse the string correctly if it consists of two words. The solution for Narbo Martius to use

monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement region_id=43
instead. You can determine what a settlement's region_id is using the show_cursorstat console command.

Fortunately, the damage_wall console command accepts the settlement name "tag", so it's satisfied with Narbo_Martius. (Appropriate settlement name "tags" are found enclosed in curly braces in the file text\imperial_campaign_region_and_settlement_names.txt)