Can anyone id the faction flags?

[hoetje]

Hi,can anyone tell me what the 21 factions are according to this screenshot http://www.g4mers.com/screenshots.aspx?id=499&type=1&page=5 (fourth screenshot) in the correct order following their flags.

I just wanna know what the flags of all the factions are like :)

Ty very much

[King Noob the Stupid]

British, French, HRE, Spain, Venice, don't know what that triskell thingy is but apparently not the scots, green thing besides venice on the campaign map (Genua?)
Scots, Byzantine, Russians, Elmos, Turks, Eggies, Danes (?),
Portugal, Poland (?), Hungary, Papacy, Horde/Timurids/Aztecs (don't know in what order)

[TB666]

Sounds like a job for TB666 *superman music*

England, France, HRE, Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scots, Byzan, Russia, Moors, Turks, Egypt, Denmark, Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Papal state, Aztecs, Timurids and mongols.

[O'ETAIPOS]

Which one is Polish?
The one in the end of second line is only one that has some, minor similarities, but on the other hand it is very close to viking one from old medieval so this one is probably Denmark.

[L'Impresario]

Actually the last two ones should be reversed (Mongol flag, then Timurid).

[TB666]

Actually the last two ones should be reversed (Mongol flag, then Timurid).
No, I think Timurids are the white ones.

[L'Impresario]

Well, even without commenting on the Mongol one, the three disks are definately a Timurid symbol, even if the colours used aren't very commonly encountered.

[Leet Eriksson]

Timurid flag is the one with the red discs, the Mongols use the golden horde flag, it should be just an arrow and bow without the sun/crecent thing.

[TB666]

Yeah you are probably right, mongols are white then :2thumbsup:

[L'Impresario]

You 're not very off though. It could have been the Timurid banner, with a few changes, as Temur's personal standard was a horsetail on a gold crescent.

[TB666]

Well I thought I had seen a pic where the white were timurids but I saw the pic now and it didn't say anything.
I'm most likely wrong, after all we haven't seen anything from either of these 2 factions.

[Specialist290]

Being a player of EU2 and familiar w/ the COAs of both the Timurids and Golden Horde in those games, I can confirm that it's definitely Horde first, then Timurids.

[Bulawayo]

Does anyone recognize that Aztec banner (according to TB666)? I think they should have something similar to the Mexican flag with the eagle and snake on the cactus.

It could of course be la piedra del sol (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Calend%C3%A1rio_Asteca.jpg)

[Pras the Reaper]

In case you needed an official response:

England, France, HRE, Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan

Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Moors, Turks, Egypt, Denmark

Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Papal States, Aztecs, Mongols, Timurids


Regarding other stuff:

Aztec symbol is a Golden Sun on a pale blue background

This is an old screenshot, Poland symbol is now a crowned white eagle on a red field.

[Bakma]

The Great Timur Empire (Büyük Timur İmparatorluğu)
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/t/tr!timur.gifby Ivan Sache

"Official description":

Founded by Timur Gurgani bordering the Balkans in the West, the Volga in the North, Indian Ocean in the South and Central Asia in the East

Timurids: Barlas Turkish family founded by Timur (Tamerlane), who rose to power in the mid-XIVth century in Transoxiana and spent his long reign in far-ranging and immensely destructive campaigns, overrunning Iran, Iraq, Asia Minor and the domain of the Golden Horde in Southern Russia. He sacked Delhi in 1398 and temporarily broke the power of the Ottoman Turks at Ankara in 1402. On his death his large empire in Iran and Transoxiana became divided among his descendants and shrank rapidly over the XVth century amid family quarrels. The last minor prince of the dynasty, Babur, was expelled from Farghana by the Shaibanids, conquerors of Transoxiana, and established himself at Kabul. In 1526, he defeated and killed the Lodi sultan of Delhi, becoming master of northern India and founding the Moghul empire.

Source: R.F. Tapsell. 1983. Monarchs, Rulers, Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World.


The flag attributed to the Great Timur Empire is blue with three white disks placed 1 + 2 in the middle of the flag.

Ivan Sache, Jarig Bakker & Onur Özgün, 4 July 2004


The Golden Horde (Altınordu Devleti)
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/t/tr!altin.gifby Ivan Sache

"Official description":

Founded by Batur Khan, covering Eastern Europe, the Western Urals, Crimea and the area to the north of the Volga.

The Golden Horde, the Mongol Khanate in Russia, was established in the mid-XIIIth century and lasted till the XVth century.

The flag attributed to the Golden Horde is white with a red crescent pointing upwards, placed above a grey disk charged with a black symbol.

Ivan Sache & Jarig Bakker, 4 July 2004




so i think every question ins answered :)

[TB666]

In case you needed an official response:

England, France, HRE, Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan

Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Moors, Turks, Egypt, Denmark

Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Papal States, Aztecs, Mongols, Timurids


Regarding other stuff:

Aztec symbol is a Golden Sun on a pale blue background

This is an old screenshot, Poland symbol is now a crowned white eagle on a red field.
Thank you Pras :bow:
I guess some people will be happy that you change the polish flag.:2thumbsup:

[The Blind Samurai]

In case you needed an official response:

England, France, HRE, Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan

Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Moors, Turks, Egypt, Denmark

Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Papal States, Aztecs, Mongols, Timurids


Regarding other stuff:

Aztec symbol is a Golden Sun on a pale blue background

This is an old screenshot, Poland symbol is now a crowned white eagle on a red field.
thanks dude :2thumbsup:

[hoetje]

To all who replied thus far : thank you very much :)

[Bakma]

To all who replied thus far : thank you very much :)

you are welcome ~:)

[hoetje]

you are welcome ~:)



owwwwwwhhhhhhh... group hug......~:grouphug:

[Raf Fariszta]

Oh my gosh, many interesting news about heraldic. But most important thing to me that Poland will have her real flag. My friends from Poland are still screaming for their happiness. Congratulations for CA, boys you are doing good job (Polish eagle, news from Palamedes). Cheerio to all of you, its my first post.

[IrishArmenian]

Good work on the flags. Very good.

[The Blind Samurai]

owwwwwwhhhhhhh... group hug......~:grouphug:
ahh get off of me ewwwww

[hoetje]

ahh get off of me ewwwww

Nooooo ~:grouphug: =)

[scriba]

Thanks for the real flag of Poland, it's very appreciated, you're great ! :bow:

[Sun of Chersonesos]

ho, may i ask what HRE stands for?

and btw i was really excited about the faction banner's, the more factions the better. for example, there is more mystery to be uncovered about the factions strengths and weaknesses, do u agree that it is better to have more faction

[TB666]

ho, may i ask what HRE stands for?


Holy Roman Empire

[Stig]

ho, may i ask what HRE stands for?
It's the Holy Roman Empire, look at it like Germany

[Sun of Chersonesos]

thanks m8 ;)

btw im Sun (i forgot to mention)

from Huscarls clan RTW

[Stig]

TB666 beat me to it, delete my post

[Sun of Chersonesos]

i understand that the holy roman empire has strong/moderate infatry and good knights, good overall faction, i think they are Medieval 2's Scipii or whatever other rtw roman faction:wall:

[Tw-Turkiye]

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6775/turkp9.png The Turks

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4642/altku3.png The Golden Horde

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4215/timpn1.png The Tumurids

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4659/ingeb1.png England

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4882/framr6.png France

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8103/sctza5.png Scotland

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7883/hgeti8.png Holy Roman Empire

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9347/danvq5.png Milan

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1681/cashl3.png Spain

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8443/porap2.png Portugal

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7523/milgu0.png Poland

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/413/vencm4.png Venice

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2327/papmm0.png Papal States

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1346/sicrs4.png Sicily

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4019/poliz7.png Danmark

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4954/ruscs8.png Russia

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/549/maccb4.png Hungary

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1503/byztnuk8.png Byzantium

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9269/egyoj5.png Egypt

https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8633/fasld1.png The Moors

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3714/azto6.png The Aztecs

[Sun of Chersonesos]

nice, so whats all this talk about the aragonese, what are they?

[King Noob the Stupid]

They were a faction in the original MTW (unplayable in vanilla, playable with VI) in northwest spain that were left out of M2TW and now lots of people would like them back.

[Martok]

They were a faction in the original MTW (unplayable in vanilla, playable with VI) in northwest spain that were left out of M2TW and now lots of people would like them back.
The Aragonese were in northeast Iberia, not northwest, but that's otherwise correct. ~:)

Having Aragon in the game as its own faction made things much for fun and interesting, especially in the southwest part of the campaign map where they were located. It allowed Spain to have a genuine 3-way conflict on the Iberian peninsula (between Aragon, Spain/Castille-Leon, and the Almohads/Moors). In addition, playing Aragon was a fun challenge in its own right, as you were a small faction and had to expand carefully without being crushed. :2thumbsup:

[Sun of Chersonesos]

fascinating,

I dont have much expereince i in playing MTW, i played it with my friend once but it was certainly not often, i play rome most of the time.

it does sound similar though Catherine of Aragon(ese). So what advantages DID this faction have?

[Sun of Chersonesos]

i forgot to mention this sorry...

It would be pretty hectic on the camapign map if the aragonese came into the scene. Spain, Portugal and the Aragonese in that penynsula

[King Noob the Stupid]

Well when playing it it could be very challenging, but you could also simply bribe El Cid in Valencia to have an ultra1337 general (they were immortal in MTW but in VI they'd sometimes change their names), be happy that nobody attacked you (the spanish would be occupied with the Moors/Elmoheads and the French and Brits north of you with each other and finally launch a crusade against the moors or the nearest excommunicated faction when your chapter house was ready. When Playing the British, French, Spain or Almohads they could also add some fun factor IMHO.

[Vlad Tzepes]

It was so strange to bribe El Cid when playing the Almohads in MTW... Re-write history, yes, but it shouldn't have been so easy (or cheap, as a matter of fact).

[Martok]

it does sound similar though Catherine of Aragon(ese). So what advantages DID this faction have?
Well as King Noob the Stupid pointed out, you can bribe the Cid and so acquire an excellent general right away (plus his duchy of Valencia has a decent income). And again, they have the ability to Crusade, which is always happy. :2thumbsup: In addition, the Aragonese have also access to the same units as the Spanish, including those wonderful Jinnettes--and they can be a war-winning unit in the Early period (especially against the Almohads/Moors).

All that said, one of the reasons Aragon is fun to play is that they *don't* have as many advantages as other factions. They're small (they only start with one province), and they don't have a lot of room to expand without attacking one of their fellow Catholic nations--all of whom are more powerful than you. The Aragonese are enjoyable to play simply because they're a challenge!


It would be pretty hectic on the camapign map if the aragonese came into the scene. Spain, Portugal and the Aragonese in that penynsula
You have no idea. ~D I have VikingHorde's XL Mod (for MTW/VI) installed, which adds the Portuguese as a playable faction (they're normally just a "rebel" province in MTW). With four factions fighting for control of the Iberian peninsula, it gets crowded very quickly; and it's never very long before the whole region breaks into all-out war. Good times, good times.... :thumbsup:


It was so strange to bribe El Cid when playing the Almohads in MTW... Re-write history, yes, but it shouldn't have been so easy (or cheap, as a matter of fact).
Cheap?? Whenever I played as the Almos and tried to bribe the Cid, I usually had to pay 2-3 times as much for him than what I paid as the Spanish/Aragonese. How did you get so lucky? :inquisitive:

[Sun of Chersonesos]

i thank you martok, i didnt know what units the aragonese have.

also id just like to add that i am excited to play M2 coz i get excited if there are over 13 factions in a game, i really want to TRY AND TEST THEM ALL OUT FOR SOME REASOON

[Sun of Chersonesos]

Nooooo ~:grouphug: =)

the faction flags have a special feel to it guys and hahahahahah ~:grouphug: