Demo Screenshot Request Thread

[Faenaris]

Since not everyone is able to buy the PC Gamer Issue, I want to start a screenshot request thread. If you want to see some units, a general view or something in between, just post here and I will try to ge some good screenshots.

[TB666]

Here are some of Pavia
https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/207/1dx6.th.jpg (https://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1dx6.jpg)https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8705/2or4.th.jpg (https://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2or4.jpg)https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/899/3cv6.th.jpg (https://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3cv6.jpg)
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7650/4ni3.th.jpg (https://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4ni3.jpg)https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6511/5su8.th.jpg (https://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5su8.jpg)https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6880/6ye1.th.jpg (https://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6ye1.jpg)
https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2522/7mu2.th.jpg (https://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7mu2.jpg)

[KukriKhan]

Q: TB666: Counting L-to-R,top-to-bottom... your #4 screenie:

Is that a single gunner firing a single shot independently?

I see some ambient smoke nearby, so maybe he was simply the last to fire of his unit, and be caught stop-action style when your fingers hit the screenie key.

Still, the idea that a unit volly is unleashed nearly,but not quite simultaneously is fascinating.

[Monarch]

Scots Guard:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D28%2D16%2D89.bmp

Loading the cannons:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D31%2D32%2D70.bmp

Zweihanders!

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D28%2D35%2D62.bmp

Musketeers:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D30%2D45%2D70.bmp

Charge at Hastings:

http://forums.thesilentassassins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102

Hastings hill:

http://forums.thesilentassassins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=100

Agincourt:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/av.jpg

[TB666]

Q: TB666: Counting L-to-R,top-to-bottom... your #4 screenie:

Is that a single gunner firing a single shot independently?

I see some ambient smoke nearby, so maybe he was simply the last to fire of his unit, and be caught stop-action style when your fingers hit the screenie key.

Still, the idea that a unit volly is unleashed nearly,but not quite simultaneously is fascinating.
He was just a bit slower then everyone else.
The firing animation is a bit slow but wonderful to look at.

[Furious Mental]

I like the arquebusiers but does anyone else think their arquebuses look a bit small? And yeah the gunpowder volleys aren't simultaneous, but they look great!

[TB666]

A look at the water
https://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8dr0.jpg

[Kourutsu]

That is some fine looking water. Too bad I will be ripping it from the game to avoid lag.

[King Ragnar]

Hah by the looks of that water screenie they havent changed the tutorial...

[TB666]

That is some fine looking water. Too bad I will be ripping it from the game to avoid lag.
For me it had no affect on performance what so ever.

[Oguz_Yabgu]

http://www.totalwar-turkiye.com/mtw2demoinc/7.jpg

http://www.totalwar-turkiye.com/mtw2demoinc/8.jpg

~:)

[Bombasticus Maximus]

Doubt he took those.



https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9904/medieval22006100818031025ez2.th.jpg (https://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=medieval22006100818031025ez2.jpg)

https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7547/medieval22006100818125301te7.th.jpg (https://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=medieval22006100818125301te7.jpg)

https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6004/medieval22006100818153018en8.th.jpg (https://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=medieval22006100818153018en8.jpg)

[KukriKhan]

Anyone have night-time shots?

[TB666]

Anyone have night-time shots?
There are no night battles in the demo.
Only pavia that has a nice sunset/sunrise.

[redriver]

This is what ya can expect to see if your system just meets the min. requirments:

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5424/treesgv8.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=treesgv8.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2764/riverzh3.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=riverzh3.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2875/knitesaw7.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knitesaw7.jpg)
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6733/kinguo9.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kinguo9.jpg)https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5173/archesau0.th.jpg (https://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archesau0.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1417/castleim6.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=castleim6.jpg)

This's what me got:
P4 1.6
1024 DDR
ti 4200 128mb
@1024 everythin' on low. anythin' higher and ya may have lag in big battles.

[hoom]

Surely a 4200 can do better than that?
How does it look running Rome?

[Husar]

Surely a 4200 can do better than that?
How does it look running Rome?
As a general rule I think newer games usually look worse on lowest settings that older games on highest settings while performance may be similar.
Also the TI4200 is not that new, I've had two other cards since my TI4200 and my newest card is getting old as well(6600GT).

The unstoppable technological race can be a pain in your wallet, but it also provides all the fancy graphics.:2thumbsup:

[hoom]

Well, yeah I'm sitting pretty with a couple of months old C2D 6600 & x1900gt but I dunno, my hard campaigning radeon9800 kinda spoiled me I guess in being able to run anything from the dx7 oldies up to modern games like BF2 at 1280*1024 with medium-high game settings + 8*AF & 2*AA.
Heck, it was even pretty happy running RTR:PE at 1920*1200 with high-medium game settings (huge units) 8*AF & 2*AA.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Hmm, well, I'm running a Ti4200, and it looks a fair bit better than that for me.

Mind you, mine is overclocked to truly dangerous levels.

[redriver]

Hmm, well, I'm running a Ti4200, and it looks a fair bit better than that for me.

Mind you, mine is overclocked to truly dangerous levels.

try runnin' everythin' on min. settings for playable performance. surely I can make the graphics look a little bit better but at a heavy performance cost.. still not better than RTW though :P

btw, I have CoD2 and everythin' on max runs perfect. it looks and perfroms great. I've seen top of the line systems chock tryin' to run CoD2 on max.. why? because they have all those fancy-shmancy visual features my video card doesn't have.. so in short an old system can run a modern game with great/awesome graphics and have a very good performance. ya just need to know how to code :D

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Yes, my little 4200 has done me proud over the years. It's only in the past couple of months that I've been having problems with new games.

I've just ordered a 7600 GT though, so its time has finally come. Maybe I'll build a system for my sister and put it in there.

[Basileus]

This is what ya can expect to see if your system just meets the min. requirments:

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5424/treesgv8.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=treesgv8.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2764/riverzh3.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=riverzh3.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2875/knitesaw7.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knitesaw7.jpg)
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6733/kinguo9.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kinguo9.jpg)https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5173/archesau0.th.jpg (https://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archesau0.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1417/castleim6.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=castleim6.jpg)

This's what me got:
P4 1.6
1024 DDR
ti 4200 128mb
@1024 everythin' on low. anythin' higher and ya may have lag in big battles.
Those pics remind of my old pc and mtw :laugh4:

[x-dANGEr]

Can someone tell me why my FX 5200 with all settings put on LOWEST (Shader version 1) and unit scale set to 10 still only has a FPS of 6...

[DukeofSerbia]

Scots Guard:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D28%2D16%2D89.bmp

Loading the cannons:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D31%2D32%2D70.bmp

Zweihanders!

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D28%2D35%2D62.bmp

Musketeers:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/medieval2%202006%2D10%2D08%2014%2D30%2D45%2D70.bmp

Charge at Hastings:

http://forums.thesilentassassins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=102

Hastings hill:

http://forums.thesilentassassins.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=100

Agincourt:

http://www.freewebs.com/monarch1/av.jpg

Those links don't work. At least I can't.:wall:

[Oguz_Yabgu]

https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6800/ek1ct9.th.jpg (https://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek1ct9.jpg)https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6883/ek3vu3.th.jpg (https://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek3vu3.jpg)https://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7158/ek2ax4.th.jpg (https://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek2ax4.jpg)
https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3546/ek3ne4.th.jpg (https://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek3ne4.jpg)https://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2526/ek5pm2.th.jpg (https://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek5pm2.jpg)https://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1976/ek6hn6.th.jpg (https://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek6hn6.jpg)https://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1204/ek4if1.th.jpg (https://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ek4if1.jpg)

[TB666]

Can someone tell me why my FX 5200 with all settings put on LOWEST (Shader version 1) and unit scale set to 10 still only has a FPS of 6...
Well if I would take a guess I would say that horrible graphic card you have.
Trust me, FX 5200 is horrible.
I was so happy when I got rid of that things.

[Maizel]

I can't even change the unit scales in the demo =O

[Hallidaycc]

looks amazing!

[econ21]

I can't even change the unit scales in the demo =O

Apparently you can reduce them, but not increase them. There's a cfg file that is just txt format and can be edited.

[Oguz_Yabgu]

https://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1204/ek4if1.jpg

i love combo system :jumping:

[Helgi]

Would have loved to have seen Hastings Hill and the Charge at Hastings, if it were not for the Access Denied, So Thanks :gah2: :gah2:

[r johnson]

MTW2 looks good, it's just a pity i've got to buy a new pc or find a way to upgrade a laptop on the cheap. In the demo could you use the campaign map or were you limited to just battles? If not was MTW2 diplomacy more sensible? Call me sad but that's what is going to make me buy it or not ~:handball:

[hoetje]

yes that combo system is amazing indeed :2thumbsup:

[SirRethcir]

This is what ya can expect to see if your system just meets the min. requirments:

https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5424/treesgv8.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=treesgv8.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2764/riverzh3.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=riverzh3.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2875/knitesaw7.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knitesaw7.jpg)
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6733/kinguo9.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kinguo9.jpg)https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5173/archesau0.th.jpg (https://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=archesau0.jpg)https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1417/castleim6.th.jpg (https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=castleim6.jpg)

This's what me got:
P4 1.6
1024 DDR
ti 4200 128mb
@1024 everythin' on low. anythin' higher and ya may have lag in big battles.
You can do better than that!
My current system:
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.66GHz
512MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X 128 MB

First, and most im portant: Put the texture quality on highest!
Performance will be good and M2TW suddenly looks beautiful.

I have some Picture here. They are in 1024x768, so maybe you have to save them first to see them in proper resolution.
- full texture, grass, effects, vegetation
- all other options low
Though the pictures show an other aspect of M2TW. ;)
http://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/sirrethcir/M2TW_-_The_King_s_Excursion

If you can read German:
http://www.totalwar-zone.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=4090&page=2

[maestro]

They all look awful - low res, no FSAA, crappy textures?

I took some proper ones last night at max settings but when I opened them in Photoshop I had the HUD, smoke and a white screen :inquisitive:

i'll have another go tonight an put some quality screenies up for you:2thumbsup:

[SirRethcir]

They all look awful - low res, no FSAA, crappy textures?
I'm hoping this is a general reply regarding the whole thread.
Else you totally miss the point of my post. :no:

[Braden]

Am I the only one who’s…..erm…….under whelmed by these screenshots? :inquisitive:

To be honest, I’ve seen nearly the same quality from Rome Mods currently available, to be honest the only difference I can see is that you can zoom in even closer – which isn’t very practical “mid-battle”.

What I’m thinking though is that the Demo isn’t doing the graphics the justice they deserve and these screen shots are not on par with the officially released screen-shots (think of that what you like). Also, screen “stills” don’t show what the animations are like and I hear these are well done indeed.

Truth is that virtually none of us will Zoom in that close whilst we’re playing, and I think the Demo looks fine from the suitable distance though not “vastly” better than Rome……..discounting the fortresses.

Fortresses look impressive in the demo and on the official releases but so are the settlements in Rome……they’re just deliberately “low key” due to the era being portrayed.

Hmmm….sitting and hoping that the demo isn’t reflective of the detail in the full game now.

[spong]

Am I the only one who’s…..erm…….under whelmed by these screenshots? :inquisitive:

To be honest, I’ve seen nearly the same quality from Rome Mods currently available, to be honest the only difference I can see is that you can zoom in even closer – which isn’t very practical “mid-battle”.

What I’m thinking though is that the Demo isn’t doing the graphics the justice they deserve and these screen shots are not on par with the officially released screen-shots (think of that what you like). Also, screen “stills” don’t show what the animations are like and I hear these are well done indeed.

Truth is that virtually none of us will Zoom in that close whilst we’re playing, and I think the Demo looks fine from the suitable distance though not “vastly” better than Rome……..discounting the fortresses.

Fortresses look impressive in the demo and on the official releases but so are the settlements in Rome……they’re just deliberately “low key” due to the era being portrayed.

Hmmm….sitting and hoping that the demo isn’t reflective of the detail in the full game now.

The animations are well done but they don't 'connect' very often which makes them a little odd, this may have been fixed by now.

I for one will certainly zoom in that close, I'm very pleased that CA have chosen to go to such lengths (provided they get it right) because time after time I have been involved in battles where its going well enough that you can zoom in and watch, but in Rome we had clone armies performing the same animations, which was ok for the time but by now it is quite dull, I relish the prospect of on those occasions where the battle is going well enough I can zoom in and watch my superbly detailed and animated troops carve through the enemy.

[Chuffy]

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Chuffy/m2twshot.jpg

Those Knights lances look screwed up.

And the bloom effect looks horrible! Whoop!

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Chuffy/m2twshot2.jpg

Ahhh, that nasty bloom effect has gone.:laugh4:

[spong]

I'm not sure whether I prefer it with bloom on or off, but I certainly found it easier to see what was going on with bloom off. Can't say which was nicer though.

[Mount Suribachi]

Braden, it makes a massive difference as to what the unit detail is set at. On medium/low it looks like you say, a bit average, no improvement on RTRPE. By the time I got to Pavia I had dropped the shadows to off and upped the unit detail to high and it looked lovely. The big manor house & encampments were very nice, more like an FPS than an RTS ~:)

And don't forget the promo screenies & videos will be on an uber-pc which has been optimised for MTW2.

[maestro]

I'm hoping this is a general reply regarding the whole thread.
Else you totally miss the point of my post. :no:


Yes, mate - fear not :2thumbsup:

Does anyone know why, when I take a screenshot, I don't get the game screen saved? I just get the HUD and smoke :inquisitive:

[redriver]

You can do better than that!
My current system:
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.66GHz
512MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X 128 MB

First, and most im portant: Put the texture quality on highest!
Performance will be good and M2TW suddenly looks beautiful.

If you can read German:
http://www.totalwar-zone.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=4090&page=2

yes I tried that and it looks much better on high texture quality but not better than RTW though, just a little bit different.. the trees are still ugly 2d sheets and the units look blocky.. that said performancewise it was ok 'til that battle of gunpowder. that and the fact that we don't get to have more than 3000 men on a battlefield in the demo...

also I noticed that video settings in game differ from that of what ya see/sat in options on the main screen.

[maestro]

Does anyone know why, when I take a screenshot, I don't get the game screen saved? I just get the HUD and smoke :inquisitive:

*bump*


-edit-

I tried upgrading from Catalyst 2.8 to 2.9 - that didn't work. Has anynon else had this problem? Of course I can use FRAPS but that's not really the point is it :D

[PROMETHEUS]

You like my shots?


https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7791/1hx4.jpg

https://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6124/2ip3.jpg

[maestro]

Thought I'd share some screenies from the Battle of Pavia historical battle from the demo:

First off - the battle maps are huge compared to previous TotalWar incarnations :D

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Hug%20Battle%20Map.jpg

The scenery is also quite beautifully rendered:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Lovely%20Scenery.jpg

The first wave of French scum ready to charge the defensive lines of the Holy Roman Empire, supported by Spanish Musketmen:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/First%20Wave.jpg

The French King's leet bodyguards prepare for the charge:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Gendarmes.jpg

The French Muppets charge the lines of German pikemen, with devastating consequences!

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Silly%20Charge.jpg

Their Bodies litter the battlefield after the first wave:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Bodies.jpg

The battle rages on

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Battle%20Rages.jpg

Some closeups of the troops:

The Spanish Musketmen fire on the French charge:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Arquebusiers.jpg

The French Culverin rain down fire on the Holy Roman Empire:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Culverin.jpg

German Halberdiers charge the French Pikeys:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Halberdiers.jpg

The leet German Zweihander heavy infantry make short work of French Pikeys:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Zweihanders.jpg

[PROMETHEUS]

The decline of Chivalry versus Fire arms ......


https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4259/1dj2.jpg

[redriver]

Surely a 4200 can do better than that?
How does it look running Rome?

this is how:
https://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7585/rtwyp1.th.jpg (https://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rtwyp1.jpg)

mind ya the graphics not on highest. I have it optimized for performance and have lotsa things on low or med.

in comparition this is what M2TW demo looks like with everythin' on low and textures on high:


https://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4408/mtw2highfn6.th.jpg (https://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mtw2highfn6.jpg)

ya be the judge.. not to mention that I can get much better graphics in RTW with evrythin' cranked up to the highest if I don't care 'bout the performance.

[The Marcher Lord]

A bunch of screens at 1024x768 without all the HUD clutter. Click thumbnails to enlarge.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_10.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/10.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_9.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/9.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_8.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/8.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_7.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/7.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_6.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/6.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_5.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/5.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_4.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/4.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_3.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/3.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_2.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/2.jpg)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/th_1.jpg (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/MTW2/1.jpg)

[PROMETHEUS]

Other two timed shots.....

The fury of Battle....

https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5838/2em5.jpg

A surrounded Knight

https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2165/3bv6.jpg

[Caesar_julii]

Thought I'd share some screenies from the Battle of Pavia historical battle from the demo:

First off - the battle maps are huge compared to previous TotalWar incarnations :D

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Hug%20Battle%20Map.jpg

The scenery is also quite beautifully rendered:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Lovely%20Scenery.jpg

The first wave of French scum ready to charge the defensive lines of the Holy Roman Empire, supported by Spanish Musketmen:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/First%20Wave.jpg

The French King's leet bodyguards prepare for the charge:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Gendarmes.jpg

The French Muppets charge the lines of German pikemen, with devastating consequences!

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Silly%20Charge.jpg

Their Bodies litter the battlefield after the first wave:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Bodies.jpg

The battle rages on

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Battle%20Rages.jpg

Some closeups of the troops:

The Spanish Musketmen fire on the French charge:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Arquebusiers.jpg

The French Culverin rain down fire on the Holy Roman Empire:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Culverin.jpg

German Halberdiers charge the French Pikeys:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Halberdiers.jpg

The leet German Zweihander heavy infantry make short work of French Pikeys:

http://www.maestro.me.uk/Images/M2TW/Zweihanders.jpg

What are your computer specs?

[TheImp]

Brave knights, aren't they?

https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/707/0001mn8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[Ferret]

The decline of Chivalry versus Fire arms ......


https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4259/1dj2.jpg
Great timing Prom!