Cosa Nuova: A New Mafia [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 2

Sir Moody

10-16-2006, 23:22

The night had been kinder to ByzantineKnight, but only slightly. He groggily opened his eyes after a fitful sleep, also troubled by nightmares and phantoms. The bright sunlight seeped through his bedroom windows, and outside the birds sang cheerfully, oblivious to any change. In his state of half-consciousness, BK felt his spirits lift.

Then it all came flooding back to him, and his spirits plunged. It was as if the bright morning had suddenly turned to blackest night. He tried to block it out, but the images from the previous night would not go away. Somehow, he knew that they never would.

After several abortive attempts, he managed to drag himself out of bed. His will to do anything was all but gone; he didn’t feel like eating, showering, or any of his usual morning activities. He just felt sick; if only the world would go away and leave him alone.

Shuffling out to his living room, he found himself standing at his own front door. A fresh newspaper was lying on the porch. “Maybe something will have been happened to shed light on this nightmare,” he thought. “Hopefully the authorities will know more by now.” He opened the door and stepped out.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

A terrible fiery explosion originating from underneath ByzantineKnight’s feet ripped through the house. His body was reduced to a red mist instantaneously, and the rest of the house was no more than a flaming, blackened frame. Moments later, even the remnants of this collapsed.

im not dead, at least i dont think i am...

anyway i think that the best thing to do would be to take out Sasaki Kojiro, although he always seems to act suspiciously, he has lied to stay alive before so for now:

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

sorry your deader than a door knob

Csargo

10-16-2006, 23:23

sorry your deader than a door knob

That's BK not Byzantine Mercenary.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-16-2006, 23:23

sorry your deader than a door knob

Err no, that was ByzantineKnight that was killed, not ByzantineMercenary.

Sigurd

10-16-2006, 23:25

sorry your deader than a door knob:laugh4:
You do relise that we have two Byzantine something in this game.
Byzantine Knight who is dead and Byzantine Mercenary who is still alive

Sasaki Kojiro

10-16-2006, 23:25

Hahahahaha

"OMG NO, HE DID IT"

Just take one for the team, man.

https://img294.imageshack.us/img294/733/1134491371393dk5.jpg

@Csar--defeated by brevity once again :no:

LOL at least I was faster than Sigurd

GeneralHankerchief

10-16-2006, 23:33

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/no20u.jpg

Ok, that's enough image spam. :laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro

10-16-2006, 23:33

Why wouldn't he investigate you round 1? You're a brilliant player who definately knows how to sway the masses. You're one of those players who will always be suspicious, just because you're so darn good as demonstrated by you managing to take Kage down with you in the fall.

Oh please. You talk as if you have some proof of who is guilty. You were sure of it yesterday and you're sure of it today, with this "why did you investigate ByzantineKnight" nonsense. To answer your questions, I have my reasons, ok?

Thanks for the compliments by the way ~:) That last paragrah was directed at the Kage bit and your previous post.

@GH--Well, I think you've got me beat on the cuteness factor.

Csargo

10-16-2006, 23:49

https://img294.imageshack.us/img294/733/1134491371393dk5.jpg

@Csar--defeated by brevity once again :no:

LOL at least I was faster than Sigurd

heheheheeh sorry bout that

Nice pic SK

Crazed Rabbit

10-16-2006, 23:53

Vote: Sigurd

I'm not going to be part of this lunacy and hunt after Sasaki.

The mafia are laughing their heads off. The ones who haven't voted yet need not vote for Sasaki. Everyone is rushing to vote for him, and forgoing discussion.

Crazed Rabbit

AggonyDuck

10-16-2006, 23:57

Oh please. You talk as if you have some proof of who is guilty. You were sure of it yesterday and you're sure of it today, with this "why did you investigate ByzantineKnight" nonsense.

Oh come on, we both know better by now. I am certain that you're the mafia. I happen to often base my votes on gut feelings and I can tell you that my gut hasn't been this certain since mafia III. Additionally everything you've done starting from post #93 just lays out a brilliant plan by you, but sadly for you, you got discovered before you managed to get more posts encoded that way and thus actually giving you an alibi against the detectives. We were just lucky that Kage actually got lucky and investigated you in round 1. The more rounds that would had passed, the better your deception would had been.

But Kage did a mistake. He had deleted his PM with him being selected as the detective and you immediately noticed the weakness in his claim due to lack of evidence. Then you capitalised on this weakness and turned the villagers against Kage, the real detective, with the help of a converted mafia selection PM. Anyway the kills this night, were an attempt to try to save your skin really. Killing ByzantineKnight would emphasize on you being the detective due to your previous "encoding and killing me again would give you the ability to accuse the mafia of trying to frame you, if it was ever brought up.

You Sir, are a masterful strategist and a brilliant deceiver, but now your time is out in this game. Now we just have to find your two elusive buddies.

:bow:

Glaucus

10-16-2006, 23:59

Everyone is rushing to vote for him, and forgoing discussion.

Crazed Rabbit

...he says as he forgoes disussion and rushes to vote. Sasaki must be killed, we can't risk not killing him.

Vote: Sasaki

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-17-2006, 00:07

I have to admit, I'm inclined to think Sasaki is being rather hard done by here. The problem, I think, is that he duped everyone so effectively in SR's game, and so everyone wants him to be mafia, so they can get their own back. You could see this at the start of Mafia IV, and I think it's what we're seeing here.

Quite frankly, I haven't really seen anything so far which proves that Kage wasn't mafia, in any case. I suppose you could argue that we should execute Sasaki just to be safe, but if he is innocent he's one of the most effective players, and it seems a shame to lose him.

I think I would hold out on lynching him, if I were still alive.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 00:15

[Never mind

Kagemusha

10-17-2006, 00:21

Evil_Maniac From Mars

10-17-2006, 00:27

Vote: Abstain

I, again, see few good reasons to vote.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 00:35

BKS.In that case i would have been Mafioso with telepathic abilities. Tell people how could i have found out that Sasaki would have been detective?Which he is not.

See post #93:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=70301&page=4

I encoded the name of who I investigated. You obviously noticed and realized I was the detective. When I started suspecting you you realized I would investigate you, so you tried to get me lynched. Was one mafioso worth a detective? Perhaps. Perhaps doc_bean is guilty too, in which case it would definitely be to your advantage to lynch me.

@Duck--who are you, Stephen Colbert?

AggonyDuck

10-17-2006, 00:40

Encoded? How? All I saw was a quote with ByzantineKnight abstaining and a relevant text behind it. I do not believe anyone found it to be a code until post #140.

Who's Stephen Colbert and why would I be him? :inquisitive:

Csargo

10-17-2006, 00:42

If you would all have a look at this.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1269420&postcount=140

What do you notice about that? If you don't see it then I'll tell you Cosa Nuova: A New Mafia is in bold.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1271217&postcount=241

Here he claims he can't copy and paste in bold or color.

Here's BKS's Doctors PM:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1271249&postcount=249

Nothing is Bolded or in color. And BKS copied and pasted his

I hope this all convinces you.

I finally got you Sasaki FINALLY you've made a fatal mistake and I've caught it

Spelling

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 00:44

Encoded? How? All I saw was a quote with ByzantineKnight abstaining and a relevant text behind it. I do not believe anyone found it to be a code until post #140.

Well I guess it was better than I thought. But apparently Kagemusha figured it out. Smart guy.

Who's Stephen Colbert and why would I be him? :inquisitive:

“That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.”

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 00:45

Csargo

10-17-2006, 00:48

I put the bold tags around it manually. Sheesh.

Why didn't you put it around anything else? In any of the other posts.

AggonyDuck

10-17-2006, 00:50

“That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.”

Oooh, that's a nice quote. Got to remember that one. :2thumbsup:

Anyway my gut feelings rule! If I would listen to them more often I'd be an unstoppable Mafiabuster! First Kommodus in Mafia III and now Sasaki in Cosa Nuova! :charge:

Kagemusha

10-17-2006, 00:50

Sasaki my friend.The hang man awaits you.You didnt edit that post Czar found. So are you telling us now that you have multiple ways maybe to post your pm´s?~:)

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 00:52

Why didn't you put it around anything else? In any of the other posts.

That's the only part that was bolded in my pm. BKS can confirm (and has). I didn't put color in manually because it's a pain and it's not important.

Sasaki my friend.The hang man awaits you.You didnt edit that post Czar found. So are you telling us now that you have multiple ways maybe to post your pm´s?

Yes.

1. Copy and paste and add formatting manually.
2. Copy and paste and don't add formatting.

GeneralHankerchief

10-17-2006, 00:52

Csar: Excellent work, my friend. Excellent work.

Kage: Sorry I doubted you.

Sasaki: Ok, you can stop defending yourself now. Just go quietly, we won't mind.

Gentlemen, now that Sasaki has been caught in the act it's time to go after the people who defended him before Csar revealed the evidence. I'm of course pointing to Silver Rusher. Although to be fair, Silver has been notorious for getting people's affilitations wrong.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 01:05

I put the bold tags around it manually. Sheesh.

Why would you do that? It's pointless unless your trying hard to prove that your the detective when your really not.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 01:11

Why would you do that? It's pointless unless your trying hard to prove that your the detective when your really not.

Err...or unless you're trying to prove your the detective when you really are. I wanted to get the pm just right so the other detective would know I was telling the truth. I really don't know what you are basing this on. When you copy paste does it copy the color and formatting? Several other people have agreed with me that theirs doesn't.

@GH--I will not go quietly into the night! I will not vanish without a fight!

https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7572/president2xy1.jpg

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-17-2006, 01:14

Why does the fact he bolded it manually make him guilty? That is incredibly shaky reasoning.

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-17-2006, 01:17

BKS.In that case i would have been Mafioso with telepathic abilities. Tell people how could i have found out that Sasaki would have been detective?Which he is not.

Even if you didn't know he was the detective, it would make sense to accuse SK, and try and get him out of the game since, as I mentioned earlier, he's one of the most active players, and always tries to get discussion going. You might have just gotten lucky with him being the detective.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 01:32

That's the only part that was bolded in my pm. BKS can confirm (and has). I didn't put color in manually because it's a pain and it's not important.

Your kidding me right.:laugh4: It's that hard to put in color?

If colors not important then why is bolding it?

You have alot of holes in your defence Sasaki.:inquisitive:

Why does the fact he bolded it manually make him guilty? That is incredibly shaky reasoning.

Why would he bold it you didn't? I don't get why he would even bother to bold it.

Glaucus

10-17-2006, 01:34

Down with Saski and all who defended him! Seriosly, your getting caught up in your own lies. Therefore you must die.

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-17-2006, 01:39

Why would he bold it you didn't? I don't get why he would even bother to bold it.

The reason I didn't bold it was that I was demonstrating that if you copied the pm straight across, the bolding went.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 01:49

Down with Saski and all who defended him! Seriosly, your getting caught up in your own lies. Therefore you must die.

So BKS is mafia now? Even though he was killed by them?

Your kidding me right.:laugh4: It's that hard to put in color?

What the hell dude. I didn't take the time to put a word in color so I must be mafia? That's wicked weak.

You have alot of holes in your defence Sasaki.:inquisitive:

A lot is two words Csar. How hard is that to do? You must be mafia :inquisitive:

ByzantineKnight

10-17-2006, 02:05

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Kill Sasaki for me... Revenge me....

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:06

So BKS is mafia now? Even though he was killed by them?

What the hell dude. I didn't take the time to put a word in color so I must be mafia? That's wicked weak.

A lot is two words Csar. How hard is that to do? You must be mafia :inquisitive:

I saw no where he said BKS was mafia.

Never said that I was just going on how you were saying it was such a pain to but in color it's just as hard to bold something.

Heh, I must be.:laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:08

I saw no where he said BKS was mafia.

Glaucus did.

Never said that I was just going on how you were saying it was such a pain to but in color it's just as hard to bold something.

Dude, it's like a whole submenu. And you have to pick the right color and the boxes are all tiny and I have a trackpad thingy.

Heh, I must be.:laugh4:

Yes. Yes you must.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:15

Glaucus did.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about Silver Rusher and all those who are alive

Dude, it's like a whole submenu. And you have to pick the right color and the boxes are all tiny and I have a trackpad thingy.

Well maybe for you that's different. For me it isn't that hard.

Yes. Yes you must.

Heh well I'm not the one about to be lynched.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:18

Heh well I'm not the one about to be lynched.

Vote:Csar

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:20

I'de vote for you again but that seems a little wrong for Kommodus since it would mess him up.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:20

I'de vote for you but I already did.

4 times :wall:

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:22

Sasaki can you answer me something?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1268827&postcount=93

Why did you edit that post? Yesterday

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:25

4 times :wall:

You see a pattern there don't you?:laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:25

Sasaki can you answer me something?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1268827&postcount=93

Why did you edit that post? Yesterday

I edited it today m8.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:29

I edited it today m8.

But why?

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:31

But why?

You're on a need to know basis, and right now, you don't need to know.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:45

You're on a need to know basis, and right now, you don't need to know.

Heh that really helps your case alot.

Sasaki Kojiro

10-17-2006, 02:50

Heh that really helps your case alot.

I've always wanted to say that. Thank you Csar, for giving me that oppurtunity.

Csargo

10-17-2006, 02:52

I've always wanted to say that. Thank you Csar, for giving me that oppurtunity.

Your Welcome. Glad I could help.:laugh4:

Seamus Fermanagh

10-17-2006, 04:01

Vote -- Abstain (for now).

Hmmmmm.

ByzantineKnight

10-17-2006, 04:48

Vote -- Abstain (for now).

Hmmmmm.

It is Sasaki, vote for him!

Zalmoxis

10-17-2006, 06:49

Vote: Abstain
I'd rather wait.

Drisos

10-17-2006, 07:49

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro!

Sir Moody

10-17-2006, 09:18

:laugh4:
You do relise that we have two Byzantine something in this game.
Byzantine Knight who is dead and Byzantine Mercenary who is still alive

:help: :help: :help:

i need glasses....

Peasant Phill

10-17-2006, 10:24

Vote: Sasaki
For 2 reasons

1) As many have said, we must finish the job in order to be sure.

2)

Originally Posted by Csar
Sasaki can you answer me something?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...7&postcount=93

Why did you edit that post? Yesterday

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
You're on a need to know basis, and right now, you don't need to know.

This is very suspicious. Why wouldn’t you give an explanation if your innocent?

ByzantineKnight

10-17-2006, 11:56

This is very suspicious. Why wouldn’t you give an explanation if your innocent?

Because he is guilty!!

Sigurd

10-17-2006, 14:04

We should tone down the accusations a little, Kagemusha is not cleared as mafia yet, and will not be until this game finishes.
There are still some discrepancies in the exchange between Sasaki and Kage.
Kage chose to reveal his second pm from Kommodus, while Sasaki reavealed his first not knowing that Kage had deleted his. Kage could easily have produced his first pm later and it might have been slightly different (bold move by Sasaki).

Comparing BKS’ pm with Sasaki’s, one discrepancy is leaping at me; in the doctor pm he is warned about revealing his role. I believe a similar warning would be in a detective’s pm as well, but it is sorely lacking in Sasaki’s.

The very fact that both provide good argumentation leaves us with no option but to lynch both. This is the only way we will be sure there are only two Mafiosi left, even though we are sacrificing a detective as the price.
We are left with one detective, one doctor and two Mafiosi. In other words, an ordinary mafia game.

Both of them can not be trusted for the reminder of the game as we will not know who the mafia is and who the detective is.

Avicenna

10-17-2006, 14:15

Vote: Sasaki

Leet Eriksson

10-17-2006, 17:23

Sorry for this, i'm really busy with real life and i forgot all about the mafia game.

But for now i Abstain.

Divine Wind

10-17-2006, 18:16

Does this game have a rule about abstaining?

The two Mafiaso's left can just abstain for the next couple of rounds, and then we have no evidence to go on when we vote. I think there should be a rule where players can only abstain ONCE in the entire game. This would certainly make it more interesting and entertaining.

I know real life does get in the way, but do the honourable thing and commit seppuku if you cant play.

discovery1

10-17-2006, 18:28

Vote:Sasaki although I still suspect Sigurd and Doc_Bean for helping the mafia.

K, I will be out till Sunday starting around 7 PM Mid west time. Can someone else speak for me while I'm out?

Silver Rusher

10-17-2006, 19:03

MY LORD, YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!

Sorry, but I had to release it someday. It is too horribly frustrating watching Sasaki go down like this on the most ball-crushingly stupid reasoning. If it is possible (and extremely probable) he is the detective, leave him alive for a few more rounds so he can investigate more people and help the villagers! You really think the mafia will have killed everyone in this @%*$ing town before a few more rounds, chances for Sasaki, even? If he is in the mafia, we can lynch him later. This way, he gets to investigate more people if he is a detective but we still lynch a mafioso in the end if he is a mafioso. Seeing people say "It's too dangerous to leave him alive" makes me slap my head in disgust. Why? If we don't lynch him now and he is in the mafia, we will all be dead tomorrow?

Now, before people argue with the obvious 'flaw' in my argument which was that I went for Kagemusha in the round before, he ticks all the boxes for a mafioso. My dog (and I don't have one) could have forged that PM better than him, nobody in their right mind could have possibly deleted a PM telling them they are the detective (you can imagine this is one of the worst moves the detective can possibly make, and I doubt someone with as much experience as Kage would be the one to make it) and he defended himself tooth and nail even though a) there was no way he could have survived and b) his death was inevitable and would have helped the villagers find a mafioso if he was the detective. Playing an RPG is no excuse, either. It is just one PM, and it is an incredibly important one.

EDIT: Another cause for defense on this point is that leaving two possible detectives alive isn't good as it will spread disunity among the people over who has been investigated and two people can't be lynched at the same time.

I should form a sanity camp with Crazed Rabbit and anybody else who disagrees with this foolish mob justice. Or, maybe we will enter a dark age where people like me are lynched because we defend others. :help:

Rant over. Hopefully we can all start to overcome our fears of a lynch and post things to help the villagers.

Myrddraal

10-17-2006, 19:34

A little information on forum mechanics. In the top right hand corner of the 'post new thread' page, there is an icon that looks like two A's seperated by a diagonal line. Press it, and watch the effect.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/rtw/editor/switchmode.gif

There are two means of entering text - vB code, or formatted text. If you use formatted text you can copy and paste coloured text, bold text and even images from websites. You can also use CTRL+B and CTRL+I etc in formatted text.

Just another one of the many great features at the .org :bow:

Kommodus

10-17-2006, 19:51

*** Voting Closed ***

Stand by for execution. I'd post it right away, but it'll be a few hours before I'll have access to the already-written document (grr).

GeneralHankerchief

10-17-2006, 20:18

If he is in the mafia, we can lynch him later. This way, he gets to investigate more people if he is a detective but we still lynch a mafioso in the end if he is a mafioso. Seeing people say "It's too dangerous to leave him alive" makes me slap my head in disgust. Why? If we don't lynch him now and he is in the mafia, we will all be dead tomorrow?

Ugh. Um, first of all, the evidence is that Sasaki is a mafioso. In your rabid defense of Sasaki, you totally gloss over the facts. Mainly, the fact that he edited his posts, was caught lying with his Detective PM and regards to color (whatever happened to Lynch All Liars, anyway?), and withholds information. Second, just... gah! Has Godfather taught you nothing? If the mafia are left alive for long enough, eventually their numbers will overcome the villagers. It's definitely in our best interests to lynch him now.

MY LORD, YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!

Let's go over the evidence, shall we?

-Sasaki edits his posts long after they're originally posted, generally based on discussions that happen at present.
-He was caught by Csar contradicting himself in regards to his initial PM.
-Withholding information, and doing it with a sneer.

And while we're at it, let's browse your track record:

-In Mafia II you were the ONLY villager to defend Lemur in the fact of a Detective reveal.
-In Mafia III you staunchly argued Kommodus' innocence (and Lemur's guilt), up until it became known that Kommodus was guilty and Lemur innocent.
-In Mafia IV you are convinced that Sasaki is a mafioso, and once again proved wrong.

Let's face it, you're kind of like the anti Dutch_guy. Harsh, but true.

I can only think of three explanations for your defense of Sasaki:

1. You are the second Detective, and investigated either Sasaki or Kage and found a innocent/guilty result.
2. You are one of the two remaining mafiosi, and engaged in an effort to destroy one of the two Detectives, and then later protect your buddy. This last post of yours was just a last-ditch attempt at a defense or an alibi (no way I would defend a mafioso like that when it was clear that he was going down).
3. You're just dead wrong again.

Unless you have evidence, I think that Options 2 and 3 are the most likely. Is it worth a lynch? I'll leave that up to the liv'uns.

Divine Wind

10-17-2006, 20:30

That was a bit late and fruitful Silver Rusher. Fair comments, but there really was no point seeming as he had 90% of the votes already.

Sigurd

10-17-2006, 20:35

Glaucus

10-17-2006, 20:39

*though you can use CTRL+B and CTRL+U and CTRL+I ect in either format.. for the record.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-17-2006, 21:00

Well, it would appear that Sasaki's demise is imminent.

That will leave us with 25.

Both lynchees accused the other of being mafiosi whilst they were a detective. Ogunquit has decided, thus far, to take the simple way out and remove them both, on the premise that a) one of them probably was a mafiosi, and b) a 1-1 trade isn't bad. Sometimes the simple answer works best; the available evidence seems to suggest that we have just created an even-money exchange.

Best Townie result:

Both Lynchees were mafiosi, playing accusation games with one another as a false flag operation that backfired [unlikely]

Worst Townie result:

Both Lynchees were detectives who got "caught up" in the moment and created a debacle for the whole town [even less likely, but we're all toast if this is what happened].

Other questions:

Why did 6 or so folks not vote? Why did Glaucus vote 3 times (Did Sasaki steal his lunch)?

Most importantly, even if the town was correct and we've lost one of each, there are still 2 more mafiosi, so what's next?

Sigurd

10-17-2006, 21:18

so what's next?
We have only 6 rounds to get the remaining mafia. If the doctor does not save anyone, the detective is not able to find the remaining mafia and we are not able to lynch a single mafia. If 6 rounds passes with this cenario the mafia has won.
If Kommodus decides to pull an act of God on the players not participating this is reduced to 4 rounds.

It is crucial that we get another mafia soon.

Kommodus

10-17-2006, 21:23

Silver Rusher

10-17-2006, 21:23

Ugh. Um, first of all, the evidence is that Sasaki is a mafioso. In your rabid defense of Sasaki, you totally gloss over the facts. Mainly, the fact that he edited his posts*, was caught lying with his Detective PM and regards to color (whatever happened to Lynch All Liars, anyway?)**, and withholds information***. Second, just... gah! Has Godfather taught you nothing? If the mafia are left alive for long enough, eventually their numbers will overcome the villagers.*** It's definitely in our best interests to lynch him now.****
I will do this using asterisks, it seems much easier than anything else.

*Gah, he edited his posts! He's a witch! Burn him! (and so on) Not evidence, I'm afraid.
**I'm sorry, he was caught lying? I have searched the last 3 or 4 pages and have found no such thing. With regards to Csar and the formatting thing, it is a pretty weak argument. All it does is take a simple lack of being bothered to do something properly and blows it out of proportion.
***Why would he do this if he was a mafioso?
****This makes no sense whatsoever. We have just lynched our second person, and you are talking about a lynch-or-lose situation already? By that time, if he hasn't already been killed by the mafioso we can easily lynch him before it gets that far.
*****No, it really isn't. It is a two way scenario: He is a detective, or he is a mafioso (he could be a villager, but due to the lynch-all-liars ploy it is the same case as a mafioso). If he is a detective, and we leave him alive, he can investigate more people, thus helping the villagers. If he is a mafioso, he can easily be lynched far before it is too late, and so he wouldn't be any risk if alive at all.

Let's go over the evidence, shall we?

-Sasaki edits his posts long after they're originally posted, generally based on discussions that happen at present.
-He was caught by Csar contradicting himself in regards to his initial PM.
-Withholding information, and doing it with a sneer.
Covered already.

And while we're at it, let's browse your track record:

-In Mafia II you were the ONLY villager to defend Lemur in the fact of a Detective reveal.*
-In Mafia III you staunchly argued Kommodus' innocence (and Lemur's guilt), up until it became known that Kommodus was guilty and Lemur innocent.
-In Mafia IV you are convinced that Sasaki is a mafioso, and once again proved wrong.

Let's face it, you're kind of like the anti Dutch_guy. Harsh, but true.
Ah, brilliant, the track record argument again. Hey, remember when you pinned all your suspicions on your own detective in Mini-Mafia and trusted the king-pin mafioso to a tee? Or when you claimed to be certain that EMFM was the Thing? I was an inexperienced peasant (and a dead one at that) in II and III, I admit (you had already hosted 3 games by the time you started playing in them yourself let us not forget), but in Mafia IV I stand by the fact that I had every reason to suspect Sasaki. It was complete coincidence that Myrddraal died after those PMs and you know it, no frame attempt or anything. Also, this might sound like a bit of an out-of-order argument but Masy was always number 2 on my suspect list after Sasaki popped up, and number 1 before that (ask Tiberius, Kommodus or possibly Myrddraal (I may not have told him, I don't remember)) If only I had posted those suspicions, maybe then I wouldn't have to suffer an eternity of ceaseless 'track-record' arguments.

I can only think of three explanations for your defense of Sasaki:

1. You are the second Detective, and investigated either Sasaki or Kage and found a innocent/guilty result.
2. You are one of the two remaining mafiosi, and engaged in an effort to destroy one of the two Detectives, and then later protect your buddy. This last post of yours was just a last-ditch attempt at a defense or an alibi (no way I would defend a mafioso like that when it was clear that he was going down).
3. You're just dead wrong again.

Unless you have evidence, I think that Options 2 and 3 are the most likely. Is it worth a lynch? I'll leave that up to the liv'uns.
All three are wrong, in fact. I ain't the detective or a mafioso, and all I did was provide a logical argument for a gameplan. I never said Sasaki was innocent or guilty, all I said was that we should hold off from lynching him for a while. I don't really see why I was 'wrong' at all.

That was a bit late and fruitful Silver Rusher. Fair comments, but there really was no point seeming as he had 90% of the votes already.
Well, I had made a short attempt beforehand but otherwise I had only just got to the computer by that point.

Kommodus

10-17-2006, 23:17

It was a considerably more sober crowd that came forward one by one to cast their votes this evening. Yet despite this, there were many heated exchanges throughout the crowd. In particular, Sasaki Kojiro was arguing his own case with vigor. It seemed that many blamed him for Kagemusha’s barbaric lynching. Most of the very same people who, at Sasaki’s urging, had beaten and killed Kagemusha, were now turning their backs on him.

Sasaki pleaded with the crowd, defending his innocence to each of them individually before they went forward to vote. Some believed him, but tonight they were few in number. At last the final ballot was cast, and the mayor reluctantly tallied the votes.

The results were not in doubt. “Citizens of Ogunquit,” he announced through the microphone that had been set up for him, “by nearly unanimous vote you have chosen Sasaki Kojiro to be put to death.”

Sasaki buried his face in his hands, shaking his head in disbelief. Two police officers advanced into the crowd, and taking hold of his arms, they escorted him firmly to the front, where he was made to face the mayor.

“Mr. Kojiro, you are accused of conspiracy and murder. Do you have anything to say for yourself?” the mayor asked, his voice quivering slightly.

Sasaki looked back, a terrible desperation in his eyes. “Please,” he said, “you must put a stop to this. I’ve hurt no one. This is madness; the mafia are tearing this town to pieces and you’re all letting them get away with it!” The last few words were addressed both to the mayor and to the crowd.

The mayor returned his gaze sadly. “I’m sorry,” he said. “I’ve done all I could. These are desperate times, and by the will of your countrymen you must die tonight.”

At this many in the crowd cheered, while others booed Sasaki and shouted insults at him. A few looked away in disgust or simply turned around and walked away.

The only matter left to be decided was the means of execution. Capital punishment had not been seen in Ogunquit since the earliest colonial times; such an ugly practice had no place in this coastal paradise. However, tonight it seemed that paradise was all but lost.

“Kagemusha was hanged because of him!” someone in the crowd cried. “Let him have the same treatment!” While some were squeamish with regards to this idea, it was fairly obvious that they had no better means. Rope was brought forth, and Sasaki was led, still protesting, to the tree.

A noose was made ready. At last, Sasaki quieted down, seemingly resigned to his fate. “Ah, well. I suppose it has come to this. Such is life,” he mused to no one in particular.

Around his neck went the noose. Around the branch went the other end of the rope. He gasped as several men yanked on it, hoisting him into the air. As before, the rope was secured around the base of the tree.

For a few short minutes, Sasaki hung there, struggling for breath. Of course these efforts were futile, and soon his body was still, a ghastly reminder of the people of Ogunquit’s commitment to justice.

It was the mayor who broke the silence from the podium. “It’s time for you all to go home,” he said, his voice an emotionless monotone. “The authorities will clean up here. Please, have some respect for the dead and go away.”

For once everyone obeyed his orders without protesting. The people somberly dispersed as civil servants began to take down Sasaki’s body.

Votes:

Sasaki Kojiro: 13 (Byzantine Mercenary, Csar, Divine Wind, doc_bean, Drisos, Glaucus, Peasant Phill, Proletariat, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Sir Moody, Xiahou, Tiberius, discovery1)

Csar: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)

Sigurd Fafnesbane: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Zalmoxis: 1 (Silver Rusher)

Abstain: 4 (Evil_Manic From Mars, Seamus Fermanagh, Leet Eriksson, Zalmoxis)

Not Voting: 5 (Cowhead418, Destroyer of Hope, Dutch_guy, King Henry V, Reenk Roink)

Status List:

Killed:
Big King Sanctaphrax
GeneralHankerchief
AggonyDuck
ByzantineKnight

Executed:
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro

Suicide:
Orb

Still Alive:
Byzantine Mercenary
Cowhead418
Crazed Rabbit
Csar
Destroyer of Hope
discovery1
Divine Wind
doc_bean
Drisos
Dutch_guy
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Glaucus
King Henry V
Leet Eriksson
Peasant Phill
Proletariat
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Silver Rusher
Sir Moody
Tiberius
Xiahou
Zalmoxis

Kagemusha

10-18-2006, 07:26

Justice has been served.One down,two to go.:bow:

Sasaki Kojiro

10-18-2006, 07:28

Justice has been served.One down,two to go.:bow:

So you are admitting your own guilt at last?

Drisos

10-18-2006, 08:04

So you are admitting your own guilt at last?

I think he was admitting your guilt. :P

Kagemusha

10-18-2006, 08:10

I think he was admitting your guilt. :P

Quoted for the truth.~:cheers: Altough Sasaki,i have to admit that you have been one brilliant Mafioso and i dont have no doubt you will remain beeing one untill the end of the game.:bow:

doc_bean

10-18-2006, 08:57

Silver Rusher makes one rather crucial mistake in his arguments, he neglects the limited time to find the mafiosi. If we are fairly certain Sasaki was a mafioso then lynching him would be the best bet, simply because otherwise we'd have to lynch someone else who would almost certainly be innocent AND we'd need to use another round to execute Sasaki if he really was mafia.

Time is our nemesis.

Drisos

10-18-2006, 11:39

doc_bean

10-18-2006, 12:30

And we've seen in the past (godfather I game) that it's no garantee people will lynch this 'person'.. GH was suspected for quite a while, but just kept getting too few votes to be executed.. it's better we got sasaki right away, I think.

:furious3: :furious3: :furious3: I was accusing him from the start, why didn't more people listen ?

One of the things I've learned from playing mafia is that waiting for the right time to execute someone will only result in misery !

Sigurd

10-18-2006, 13:47

:furious3: :furious3: :furious3: I was accsuing him from the start, why didn't more people listen ?
~:rolleyes:

Drisos

10-18-2006, 15:35

:furious3: :furious3: :furious3: I was accsuing him from the start, why didn't more people listen ?

One of the things I've learned from playing mafia is that waiting for the right time to execute someone will only result in misery !

IIRC, I voted for him a couple of times.. I had my suspicons, but we just never got to actually lynching him. :(

And I've been hosting 3 mafia games at some other forum as well, and it the last one, people had the same. He's probably guilty, but we'll lynch him later. By their last chance to lynch him, so many of the people that suspected him had died that he wasn't lynched... > mafia victory.

Silver Rusher

10-18-2006, 18:39

And we've seen in the past (godfather I game) that it's no garantee people will lynch this 'person'.. GH was suspected for quite a while, but just kept getting too few votes to be executed.. it's better we got sasaki right away, I think.
I think this is the only real problem, but the people can be easily convinced when it comes down to the right time.

Silver Rusher makes one rather crucial mistake in his arguments, he neglects the limited time to find the mafiosi. If we are fairly certain Sasaki was a mafioso then lynching him would be the best bet, simply because otherwise we'd have to lynch someone else who would almost certainly be innocent AND we'd need to use another round to execute Sasaki if he really was mafia.

doc, I have said this before, it is easy to calculate when one round before the earliest possible lynch-or-lose comes and that is a perfect time to lynch Sasaki, without much risk at all (we still have another round to lynch a mafioso if need be). There are 24 people left. Assuming no mafiosi die, there are no suicides and there are about 3 wrath of gods it will be about 5 (correct me if I'm wrong) rounds before we need to lynch Sasaki.

doc_bean

10-18-2006, 19:37

doc, I have said this before, it is easy to calculate when one round before the earliest possible lynch-or-lose comes and that is a perfect time to lynch Sasaki, without much risk at all (we still have another round to lynch a mafioso if need be). There are 24 people left. Assuming no mafiosi die, there are no suicides and there are about 3 wrath of gods it will be about 5 (correct me if I'm wrong) rounds before we need to lynch Sasaki.

EDIT: OOPS, misread your post, nevermind. I am still glad we did what we did though.

Silver Rusher

10-18-2006, 20:25

EDIT: OOPS, misread your post, nevermind. I am still glad we did what we did though.
Well, my idea was fairly complicated.

Kommodus

10-18-2006, 20:35

That night, in his dreams, Drisos found himself back in the town square, surrounded by his family, friends, and acquaintances. He was headed up to the podium, getting ready to cast his vote for what he considered the likeliest guilty party. Surely it was… it was… who was it again?

Reaching his destination, he grabbed a sheet of paper and a pen, yet for some reason he couldn’t write. His fingers simply wouldn’t work; it was as if he’d forgotten how to handle the pen.

“Hurry up, blockhead,” sneered the mayor, his voice surprisingly acidic. “Don’t you want to help your foolish countrymen send an innocent man to his death?” Drisos looked up in shock and found himself staring into the eyes of a leering visage which, he was sure, could only belong to a Mafioso!

Dropping the pen, he turned around to run from the podium. “Everyone! Listen!” he shouted to the crowd. “The Mafioso is… I’m certain it’s…” Suddenly his voice caught in his throat, for he finally noticed the faces of the people. They were all wearing the same vile, malevolent grin he had seen on the mayor. The faces of his friends, of people he had known for years, were hideously transformed. They weren’t themselves anymore.

Terror took hold of Drisos and he tried to flee, but his legs simply wouldn’t work. It was as if he was struggling against a strong current. The crowd began to advance on him, closing in from all sides. His throat was closing, he was choking, choking… he couldn’t breathe…

He coughed violently as he finally awoke with a start – only to find that he really was choking! An even greater terror took him as he realized why – smoke! Acrid black fumes filled his bedroom; he couldn’t see a thing. The air was thick and hot. Smoke detectors were blaring. How had he slept through them?

Drisos threw back the blankets and rolled out of bed. He groped around in the blackness, looking for the bedroom door. For some reason nothing felt familiar; he felt completely disoriented. Finally he found the door and reached for the handle…

…only to pull his hand back violently! The knob was burning hot. There was only one way out – the windows! He felt his way along a wall until he reached one, and tried to open it. Unfortunately, the window had somehow been sealed shut from the outside! Drisos finally realized that the blaze had been set with malicious intent. His heart sank.

Breathing was getting harder. He struggled with the window, banging his hands against it. The extra exertion wasn’t helping, as his lungs filled quickly with the heated, toxic air. With one last labored breath, unconsciousness overcame him. He never felt the flames that consumed his asphyxiated body.

Divine Wind awoke in the very early morning to the sound of screaming fire engines. Would this string of disasters never come to an end? He looked at the clock – 4:57 am. He groaned; even if he could somehow get to sleep again he’d have to get up before long. After laying there for a few minutes, he decided to get out of bed.

DW quickly showered, dressed himself in jogging clothes, and headed out the front door for an early-morning run. He decided it was necessary to clear his head; besides, it was a fine morning. The autumn air was cold and crisp, making his whole body feel alive.

He jogged a couple of blocks to the east, then turned right to head for the footbridge and the beach. The stiffness of sleep was working its way out of his limbs; he was feeling better and better, when suddenly…

THWAP!

Something jarred him sharply. He stopped involuntarily and looked down. A thick, heavy bolt was protruding out of his chest! “That’s odd,” he thought. “Why don’t I feel anything?”

He wouldn’t have long to wonder, though. He didn’t know it, but the bolt had pierced his left ventricle – a fatal wound. Moments later, he slumped to the ground, dead.

As in the past two days, the people gathered in the town square that evening. The mood was tense; the situation was becoming desperate. Obviously the town’s police force was not being successful. The questions going around in the crowd were confused. Why were the mafia still here? Surely at least one of them had been eliminated by now – wasn’t that enough to frighten them off?

“Everyone, I have an announcement to make!” the major said into the microphone. Everyone quieted down to listen.

“We have acquired a little more information concerning the threat we face,” the mayor continued. “The syndicate that has invaded Ogunquit is not actually the mafia – not precisely, at least. The bolt that killed Divine Wind came from a crossbow, and our examiners found an engraving on it indicating it belongs to a group known as the Cosa Nuova.”

The mayor coughed slightly and continued. “The Cosa Nuova are a splinter group that broke away from the main mafia several decades ago. They claim to be “restoring” the mafia to its original and true purpose. Thus, they actually believe that their organization is centuries old.”

The people were confused at what this meant. “That’s good, right?” someone said. “That means they don’t actually have the resources or experience of the real mafia. They should be easier to catch.”

The mayor shook his head gravely. “I’m afraid that in many ways the Cosa Nuova are far more dangerous than the original mafia,” he said. “They don’t involve themselves with petty crime like their parent organization. They prefer to play for higher stakes, and often involve themselves in various causes – social, environmental, and political. When they get involved, it’s always with something big, something drastic. Their numbers may be few but their methods are highly professional. Every operative is extremely well-trained.”

Everyone found this incredibly troubling. What hope did the town’s police force have against such a threat? But there was an even more disturbing aspect to this new revelation. What could the Cosa Nuova want in a small coastal town like Ogunquit? What was it about the town that had drawn them?

Overhearing this question being asked multiple times, the mayor spoke into the microphone again. “I’m as baffled as you are,” he said. “I can’t imagine what would bring them here.” The lie sped from his lips easily; still, it left a bitter after-taste.

“Fellow citizens,” he continued, “whatever is happening here, it’s extremely bad – even worse than a string of serial murders. Surely some of you have observed suspicious behavior. Someone must know something. As much as it pains me to do this, I feel we have no choice but to continue with our democratic means of identifying the villains among us. Please, we need everyone to apply their full powers of deduction and reasoning to the task at hand. Cast your votes correctly, before all is lost.”

Silver Rusher

10-18-2006, 21:05

The mayor lied!

Vote: Mayor

don't worry, I'll change it later. Still need more evidence though.

Sigurd

10-18-2006, 21:13

The mayor coughed slightly and continued. “The Cosa Nuova are a splinter group that broke away from the main mafia several decades ago. They claim to be “restoring” the mafia to its original and true purpose. Thus, they actually believe that their organization is centuries old.”

Their numbers may be few but their methods are highly professional. Every operative is extremely well-trained.”
Is this a real clue, or just a red herring? Should we interpret this to the extent that Cosa Nuova (the 2 members left) has been mafia before?
It fits with both Kage and Sasaki.
If I am interpreting this clue right we are looking for previous mafia.
A short list would be:
Crazy Rabbit,
Silver Rusher,
Sigurd Fafnesbane,
Cowhead418,
doc_bean,
discovery1

any others that I missed?
What say you fellow townies..

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-18-2006, 22:16

Masy was mafia in the last game. Is he playing in this one?

Crazed Rabbit

10-18-2006, 22:33

I think you're reading too much into it, Sigurd. All these games are totally unique, role-wise, from the others, and the players are always chosen randomly (at least the first one, in Silver's mafia).

Also, all of the previous mafiosos were mafia, which appears to be a distinct group from Cosa Nuova.

I'm going to hold off voting. There's not a lot of evidence.

Crazed Rabbit

Sigurd

10-18-2006, 22:33

Masy was mafia in the last game. Is he playing in this one?
he is not listed on the suvivor list.

The mayor lied!
Did he now? :stare:

Sigurd

10-18-2006, 22:42

All these games are totally unique, role-wise, from the others, and the players are always chosen randomly (at least the first one, in Silver's mafia). If I am not mistaken, the mastermind aka Sasaki chose a Godfather and the detective.
The Godfather then chose his henchmen in Silver's game.

You say all games are unique and different.
The possibility that the mafia was not chosen randomly in this game is still there.

Also, all of the previous mafiosos were mafia, which appears to be a distinct group from Cosa Nuova. Sorry m8 I don't understand...

Kommodus

10-18-2006, 23:01

1. The roles in this game were all chosen randomly.

2. There are no secret roles.

3. The story elements are just that - story elements. They are neither clues nor red herrings. Any clues that may show up in the stories are purely unintentional.

-K

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 00:04

Doc B:

...hope your life insurance premiums are paid up to date. The other 4 of the 5 villagers voting for Sasaki in round one have been murdered (one of those by lynching, to be fair).

Fellow villagers:

Dutch_guy and King Henry are lookin' a little suicidal (voting record). Someone might want to buy them a coffee or something.

....and yes, I am a geek and yes I did construct a matrix to keep track. Otherwise I'd go nuts trying to keep things straight.

VOTE = ABSTAIN, for now

Edited to clarify cause of death.

Reenk Roink

10-19-2006, 00:34

Reenkmeister wanted to vote last time as he was near convinced of Sasaki's guilt. However, with no leads again, the time has come to again abstain, courteously... :bow:

(Vote: abstain, courteously... :bow:)

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 00:47

Reenk:

Would you please stop that! I would like to get that musical out of my head! Please.....:wall: :wall: :wall:

Edit: added bold to Reenk's name

Reenk Roink

10-19-2006, 00:52

Reenk:

Would you please stop that! I would like to get that musical out of my head! Please.....:wall: :wall: :wall:

It was the best movie they showed in school... ever! :grin:

At least I'm not going: "vote e-yes... vote e-yes... vote for independence!" :laugh4:

Csargo

10-19-2006, 01:24

If you keep Abstaining we'll all end up dead I hope you realize that.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 01:36

Abstaining at this point means:

I don't have anybody in mind to go after....yet, but in case my internet connection croaks I don't want to be counted as absent and suicided by the hand of Kommodus.

Abstain has not be a prime vote in either election thus far...and I doubt that will change.

Cowhead418

10-19-2006, 04:46

What's this? Very few votes this round? I know there isn't much to go on currently but we must get new leads! For the moment, I Vote: Silver Rusher because of his ceaseless defense of Sasaki. It seems suspicious that Silver is so hardcore in defending SK, because I don't feel that a villager would have the interest to defend someone so intensely that they don't definitively know anything about.

Yes, I know that it would be foolish for a mafioso to draw such attention to himself, but Silver initially was calm in his defense of Sasaki, and when accused by Glaucus of 'defending his comrade,' it almost seems as if Silver felt that he had to intensify his defense or lose all credibility and get lynched. As we've seen in past Mafia games, the ones who present the most thought-out and lengthy rebuttals to accusations were the mafia themselves because they had the most at stake. This is different, because Silver is not defending himself - but it is in the same ballpark. I will admit that it would not have been wise of Silver to continue to defend Sasaki after the execution if the two were really comrades-in-arms, and that he wouldn't be as likely to make this critical mistake due to his mafia experience (especially from hosting). However, he is the most suspicious at the moment and the other main purpose of my accusation is to put him on the spot and see how he responds.

P.S. As we all know, it is a sound mafia strategy to post little so that not much can be inferred from the posts, so that there is a lower probability that the mafia will accidently drop a clue. This worked in the Godfather and in Mafia I and II (for the most part). As I have pointed out before, the ones who garner the most suspicion are the biggest talkers - while the one-line posters continue to slide by. In the big bandwagons, a mafioso can slip in a one-liner without attracting much attention. Although some posters have promised this game to attack the one-liners, they continue to get by scot-free at this very moment. I encourage the town to be very critical of those who aren't posting very much content in their posts. Forcing the mafia into the discussion can only help the town because we can pick apart their posts and examine them for clues. These last two rounds have not had much discussion. We must change this bad habit if we are to win.:charge:

Csargo

10-19-2006, 06:46

Vote: Silver Rusher

Sasaki Kojiro

10-19-2006, 07:14

LOL

Csar you crack me up

doc_bean

10-19-2006, 08:01

Avicenna

10-19-2006, 08:14

Csar: your sig says you're voting disco next. Oh well.

vote: Silver Rusher

doc_bean

10-19-2006, 08:17

Sorry for the double posting, but editing tends to make you suspicious.

I *think* someone is trying to kill off some of the more active posters (the Sasaki prosecutors, to be specific) hoping that we'd keep focusing on Sasaki and don't start attacking lurkers. Essentially, I believe Silver Rusher is getting framed (although that last comment towards me does make me want to lynch you...). His defense of Sasaki wasn't exactly subtle, and it would seem like a bad idea for a mafioso to draw that much attention unto himself. However, he could also figure that we probably wouldn't hang him since his behaviour is rather un-mafia.

In my experience the last way of reasoning doesn't work, but he might have given it a try anyway :shrug:

I suspect at least one of the mafia, probably both (all three ?) left is a lurker, and I suggest we start going after the lesser active posters. I remember in Sasaki's mafia game that I kept wanting to go after Wonderland for being a lurker, but kept postponing it because other people were acting more suspicious. He, of course, turned out to be a triad.

Could someone who's keeping track please post the least active posters ? Currently I'm a little suspicious about Reenk Roink, for his constant abstaining. But I'll hold off voting until I've heard some more discussion on the subject.

Sir Moody

10-19-2006, 09:31

hmmm not much to go on this time really the big problem with the Sas/kage fight was we all looked at that and fogot to try and look at everyone else too - a firefight like that is perfect for the mafia as they can hide in the flames

well as mentioned theres a few suspicous people floating around - first theres silver rusher - suspicous yes but i dont think hes a Mafia member - thye wouldnt draw themselves that openly into the firefight

next is Csar i went back and looked and he has a very good track record of joining the bandwagon as it starts again suspicous

and most suspicous is reenk roink whos continual abstaining is worrying but not an admission of guilt...

im stumped im gonna hold out and wait and see if anyone come sup with something better

Peasant Phill

10-19-2006, 10:29

Vote: Cowhead
I haven't seen him contribute a lot in this game and now he's suddenly increminating other players that are not as active. Is this an attempt to start a 'blind' lynching while giving himself an alibi? Everybody can make up his own mind, but I find it highly suspicious.

I also suspect Silver Rusher. It was rather foolish of him to defend Sasaki to that extend, to foolish for a cautious Cosa member. I don't buy into the argument that Silver would use the whole 'as mafia I wouldn't be so foolish to defend another member' as an excuse, it's just to risky.

Drisos

10-19-2006, 12:18

Too early in the game to randomly lynch lurking people... lynch Silver Rusher instead!

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 13:03

Silver Rusher has vigorously defended Sasaki, voting for Kagemusha in round 1 and for Zalmoxis in round 2. Why would he defend Sasaki so vigorously and publicly if he were a mafiosi and then vote just as obviously? Unless Silver's fooling us with a "reverse stupid" approach, his voting behavior suggests innocence.

Reenk abstained in round 1, didn't vote in 2, and is abstaining thus far...
(and making me sing in my head "Someone Oh-pen up a window....")

Maniac has abstained twice with little comment...

Leet and Zalmoxis didn't vote in 1 and abstained in 2....

while Cowhead followed Reenk's pattern and abstained then skipped...

All of these, through round two, with relatively small/few posts

KHV is also 0 for 2 voting, but I think he's a vacation-suicide.

According to the "lurker theory" these Qgunquites are displaying more "guilt" than most.

The Sasaki-Kagemusha dustup was very BIG, but took almost everyone's entire focus for both rounds. One mafiosi is very likely dead, but that means we have two more nuovos left, little ferreting has been done, and the initiative is with the bad guys. We have to crank it up a notch.

Peasant Phill

10-19-2006, 13:17

Too early in the game to randomly lynch lurking people... lynch Silver Rusher instead!

It's not a random lynch, more of a gut feeling. Besides debate and the potential mistakes are more likely to be made when an active debate is going on. And what better way to start a debate than that throwing semi-founded accusations and the suspect defending themselves.

Proletariat

10-19-2006, 13:53

Silver's acting pretty silly, but maybe not guilty. I'll Vote: Silver Rusher though unless things develop further before the lynching. Someone has to go, after all.

Big King Sanctaphrax

10-19-2006, 15:30

Surely Silver defending Saski isn't overly suspicious until we know that it was Sasaki, and not Kag, who was mafia?

I agree with cowhead. The Town's best bet now is to kill off the lurkers and hope they get lucky.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 16:16

Sir Moody

10-19-2006, 16:52

But until today, Cowhead was one of the lurkers.

Curioser and curioser said Alice.

i hadnt notice dthat its a very good point

Vote: Cowhead

Crazed Rabbit

10-19-2006, 17:21

Vote: Cowhead
He's doing a perfect mafia thing, near to what I did in mini mafia.

He calls for more discussion, after remaining near absent himself, while voting for Silver Rusher, whom is probably acting the most innocent of all of us.

He also calls for a lynching, saying we need to 'find new leads', which we aren't going to do going after Silver, which would be exactly what a mafioso wants.

Crazed Rabbit
PS Anyone got infor on people posting simple, one or two line votes after the first vote has been cast these last rounds?

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 17:36

Unvote -- Abstain
Vote -- Cowhead

I hadn't added in those other comments, good point.

Divine Wind

10-19-2006, 17:42

I had a feeling i might be killed off this round. Oh well, at least it wasnt a painful death ~:shock:

Avicenna

10-19-2006, 18:23

You know, if I was mafia, I'd be laughing my head off. You are listing the lurkers but nobody's listed me? What? It's pretty obvious that I can't exactly bother to post much now. Nothing to post ON, anyhow. Oh well.

Anyway, I'm still suspicious of SR. He is uncharacteristically inactive. Also, he might have tried to confuse us the way that doc_bean suggested: doing something un-mafiosish. He also casually mentioned that he was a villager, without attracting too much attention to it.

I don't know, you can't be certain about anything unless you're a detective in these games.

Silver Rusher

10-19-2006, 18:44

Anyway, I'm still suspicious of SR. He is uncharacteristically inactive. Also, he might have tried to confuse us the way that doc_bean suggested: doing something un-mafiosish. He also casually mentioned that he was a villager, without attracting too much attention to it.
I'm only inactive because my time at the computer is getting more and more restricted recently.

Anyhow, I would have voted Csar (he seems very suspicious) but in the interests of saving myself I am going to Vote: Cowhead418. Sorry mate, it's a dog-eat-dog world and I for one don't want to be lynched.

Csargo

10-19-2006, 19:46

How do I seem suspicious?

Silver Rusher

10-19-2006, 19:49

Well, your location, title and signature seem very cover-up-esque. Also, you have been quick to bandwagon in this game.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-19-2006, 19:50

You know, if I was mafia, I'd be laughing my head off. You are listing the lurkers but nobody's listed me? What? It's pretty obvious that I can't exactly bother to post much now. Nothing to post ON, anyhow. Oh well.

I never claimed my list was exhaustive. You have been marginally active, though most of your posts were brief. You abstained in round 1 and voted to lynch Sasaki in round 2. The one's I noted above had not made any "active" votes.

Sigurd

10-19-2006, 20:41

Realising that we don’t have much to go on here I sat down and went trough the entire thread again, filling small tidbits into a spread sheet.
While doing this I saw a few patterns.
Since I don’t know who has the pro-town roles I’ll be careful.

If we would consider that Sasaki is the dead Mafia, he would probably be the leading voice in our mafia trio. Since Kommodus confirmed that the mafia was randomly chosen I will forgo my theory of Cosa Nouva being all former mafia. Sasaki has chosen to not show his activity level in this game, and that is not something extraordinary for him. Two others also hold their activity level private. In round one Sasaki voted for Disco, this was the round most of us abstained or voted no lynch. The two hidden players also voted for Disco. Remember it is in the mafia’s interest to get rid of as many players as they can during a round. When Kagemusha revealed his role and voted for Sasaki, Sasaki changed his vote from Disco to Kagemusha. Our two players also changed theirs. This in itself is not too particular noticeable, but they voted for Kagemusha. I did not know who to vote for so I kept my No lynch. It was clear that Sasaki would not be able to wiggle his way out of a lynching the next round and he did what I would have done, ordered his Mafiosi to vote for him to throw off any suspicion. They complied and even threw in a harsh word or two for the show.
Silver Rusher has been acting weird in this thread and is therefore an easy target, easy to bandwagon. So far only one of the two has bandwagoned Silver. The other is lurking but we don’t know when he last visited because he is hiding his activity level.
The two I am thinking of is
Proletariat and Xiahou.

Vote:Xiahou

Drisos

10-19-2006, 20:43

Sorry mate, it's a dog-eat-dog world and I for one don't want to be lynched.

Why not? Speculation after death is allowed. Do you have a specific role.. mafioso, perhaps? :P

Csargo

10-19-2006, 20:48

Well, your location, title and signature seem very cover-up-esque. Also, you have been quick to bandwagon in this game.

Well that's all a joke SR if you can't realize that then well feel free to think I'm suspicious. I have been quick to Bandwagon? I'm sorry if you don't agree with how I vote. I have been voting with I how I think is right with Kage and Sasaki. Though one of them may have been a detective I think it was safer if they were both killed.

Proletariat

10-19-2006, 20:54

Well, I've been invisible for a long time, since I took an absence from the backroom, I didn't want people either commenting that my vacation from the backroom wasn't real because I still lurked, or that I should cease my br vacation since I still lurked. I'm not changing it now, but I guess I can't blame you for looking at me because of it.

That's actually why I voted Disco in the first round initially, because he kept saying if you were invisible you must be mafia, it's just silly. Even if I went visible now, it'd be just as suspicious as having it on, so screw it.

The only thing we can go on in this game so far is that either Kage or Sasaki is a liar. Right now I'm in the Sasaki is a liar camp, so I'll stick with Silver unless some argument wows me.

Csargo

10-19-2006, 21:01

Csar: your sig says you're voting disco next. Oh well.

vote: Silver Rusher

That was a joke except for the Sasaki.

Silver Rusher

10-19-2006, 21:05

Well that's all a joke SR if you can't realize that then well feel free to think I'm suspicious. I have been quick to Bandwagon? I'm sorry if you don't agree with how I vote. I have been voting with I how I think is right with Kage and Sasaki. Though one of them may have been a detective I think it was safer if they were both killed.
The disco-Ice feud seemed like a joke, but when disco became a mafioso he was able to use it to his advantage (and fail). Also, you posted a solitary vote for me without anything else in the post right after Cowhead accused me.

Csargo

10-19-2006, 21:09

The disco-Ice feud seemed like a joke, but when disco became a mafioso he was able to use it to his advantage (and fail). Also, you posted a solitary vote for me without anything else in the post right after Cowhead accused me.

You wanna know why I voted for you?

Because of your staunch defense of Sasaki. Where were you when Kage was being accused? You didn't defend him even when you knew he could have been a detective. You explain to me why you didn't defend Kage then I'll be glad to unvote you and Abstain unless someone else convinces me other wise.

Avicenna

10-19-2006, 21:10

I think I did that before as the detective..(1line posts) it's all a matter of time. And right now, with exactly FIVE subjects' worth of coursework attacking me at once, it's proving difficult to devote time elsewhere... I haven't done much revision either, no time to. Ugh.
EDIT: 2500 posts!
:medievalcheers:

Evil_Maniac From Mars

10-19-2006, 21:26

Vote: Silver Rusher

Byzantine Mercenary

10-19-2006, 21:30

Silver Rusher

10-19-2006, 21:34

You wanna know why I voted for you?

Because of your staunch defense of Sasaki. Where were you when Kage was being accused? You didn't defend him even when you knew he could have been a detective. You explain to me why you didn't defend Kage then I'll be glad to unvote you and Abstain unless someone else convinces me other wise.
Please, do read my posts in the future before making replies like that.

Now, before people argue with the obvious 'flaw' in my argument which was that I went for Kagemusha in the round before, he ticks all the boxes for a mafioso. My dog (and I don't have one) could have forged that PM better than him, nobody in their right mind could have possibly deleted a PM telling them they are the detective (you can imagine this is one of the worst moves the detective can possibly make, and I doubt someone with as much experience as Kage would be the one to make it) and he defended himself tooth and nail even though a) there was no way he could have survived and b) his death was inevitable and would have helped the villagers find a mafioso if he was the detective. Playing an RPG is no excuse, either. It is just one PM, and it is an incredibly important one.

EDIT: Another cause for defense on this point is that leaving two possible detectives alive isn't good as it will spread disunity among the people over who has been investigated and two people can't be lynched at the same time.

Kagemusha

10-19-2006, 21:37

Realising that we don’t have much to go on here I sat down and went trough the entire thread again, filling small titbits into a spread sheet.
While doing this I saw a few patterns.
Since I don’t know who has the pro-town roles I’ll be careful.

If we would consider that Sasaki is the dead Mafia, he would probably be the leading voice in our mafia trio. Since Kommodus confirmed that the mafia was randomly chosen I will forgo my theory of Cosa Nouva being all former mafia. Sasaki has chosen to not show his activity level in this game, and that is not something extraordinary for him. Two others also hold their activity level private. In round one Sasaki voted for Disco, this was the round most of us abstained or voted no lynch. The two hidden players also voted for Disco. Remember it is in the mafia’s interest to get rid of as many players as they can during a round. When Kagemusha revealed his role and voted for Sasaki, Sasaki changed his vote from Disco to Kagemusha. Our two players also changed theirs. This in itself is not too particular noticeable, but they voted for Kagemusha. I did not know who to vote for so I kept my No lynch. It was clear that Sasaki would not be able to wiggle his way out of a lynching the next round and he did what I would have done, ordered his Mafiosi to vote for him to throw off any suspicion. They complied and even threw in a harsh word or two for the show.
Silver Rusher has been acting weird in this thread and is therefore an easy target, easy to bandwagon. So far only one of the two has bandwagoned Silver. The other is lurking but we don’t know when he last visited because he is hiding his activity level.
The two I am thinking of is
Proletariat and Xiahou.

Vote:Xiahou

That sounds logigal. But while i dont have anything to back me up. A little voice is saying inside me that while most of what you say is true.All is not. I wouldnt be suprised that in the party of Proletariat , Xiahou.
and Sigurd, two players are Mafia. But this is pure speculation and i have nothing to back that up at the moment.:bow:

Byzantine Mercenary

10-19-2006, 21:45

well at this point in the voting seems there is only a realistic choice between two people, Cowhead and Silver and to me at the moment Silver is looking the most guilty, Sasaki is clever enough to defend himself, for Silver to come in on the argument makes me wonder if he has somthing at stake now so for now...

Vote: Silver
i have been thinking and there would be one other possible reason for silvers defending, he could be the detective and have investigated sasaki, dont want to take the risk realy for now so

Vote: Cowhead

i have a feeling that if and its a big if, silver is the detective the mafia would assume this and so attempt to get him lynched saving them the trouble

Xiahou

10-19-2006, 22:23

That sounds logigal. But while i dont have anything to back me up. A little voice is saying inside me that while most of what you say is true.All is not. I wouldnt be suprised that in the party of Proletariat , Xiahou.
and Sigurd, two players are Mafia. But this is pure speculation and i have nothing to back that up at the moment.:bow:
I've probably been invisible for a year or more. Mainly because I didn't like the idea of people being able to virtually stalk me any time I signed onto the org. I'm not about to change it now, since that'd only be viewed as a confirmation of guilt by the people who apparently sit around watching people's profiles. :dizzy2:

I think Silver Rusher certainly behaved strangely in his defense of Sasaki- but before we bandwagon him, I think some more discussion might be in order.

I am still also suspicious of Discovery- he was in such a hurry to see someone lynched in round one. Later, I changed my vote because we had a clear mafioso between Kage and Sasaki. But, Disco has been very quiet after drawing suspicion after his original rush to lynch.

GeneralHankerchief

10-19-2006, 22:37

Tiberius, why do you come out of nowhere to defend your inactivity when I don't think you were even mentioned?

Kommodus

10-19-2006, 22:58

*** Voting Closed ***

Wow, despite a fair amount of discussion, a lot of people didn't vote at all this round - even to abstain. I wonder why.

Cowhead418

10-20-2006, 00:48

Well, this is the end of the road for me... It seems that I am more suspicious when I am innocent than when I am in the mafia. Hmmmm... All I wanted was to promote some discussion. Instead, once again the one-liners are going to get by scot-free. I really encourage the town to go after lurkers. Also, look for changes in behaviors. I realize that me making a big post after missing round two (I was busy and forgot) could have been seen as a change in behavior and I shot myself in the foot. Oh well, this round may be a mafia victory and I may be dead, but I will continue to participate. As for right now, this will be my first lynching and I look forward to it.:2thumbsup:

Kommodus

10-20-2006, 01:30

The people of Ogunquit were puzzled. Most had been focusing on the debate between Kagemusha and Sasaki Kojiro. Now that it was over (for better or for worse), they weren’t sure who else to suspect.

That wasn’t the only issue confusing them, however. The mayor’s abrupt turnaround baffled them far more. For the past two days he’d been urging calm and patience, arguing against the so-called “justice by democracy.” Was it simply that he was getting desperate, or did he know something the rest of the townspeople didn’t? A few were beginning to cast suspicious glances in his direction.

Nevertheless, everyone was still more afraid of the Cosa Nuova than of any supposed secrets Ogunquit may or may not have been harboring. One by one, they cast their votes; however, it seemed that few held a strong opinion of any kind. They were mostly reduced to speculating on the identity of the Mafiosi; the mayor’s supplication to them to use their full reasoning skills had not been heeded by many. In fact, a large number hung back, not even coming forward to vote when asked to.

When it became apparent that no more votes would be cast, the mayor once again tallied the votes. The result was close, but finally he called out a name.

“Cowhead418,” he announced into the mic. “You have received the most votes, and by the will of the people of Ogunquit, you must be put to death.”

Murmurs went through the crowd as two officers escorted Cowhead418 to the front. Strangely, he seemed resigned to his fate, and almost… cheerful. Perhaps, sensing what was ahead, he was relieved that he would be spared any more of the madness.

“Cowhead418, you are accused of conspiracy and murder. Do you have any explanation for your suspicious behavior?” the mayor asked.

Cowhead418 shrugged. “If this is the will of my countrymen, so be it,” he said. “I only ask that I not be hanged; surely there is an easier way.”

The mayor nodded. “We anticipated this,” he said, “and have selected a more humane way to end your life. We have prepared a lethal injection; you’ll simply fall asleep and not wake up.” He drew a syringe out of a briefcase. “Hold out your arm,” he said.

Cowhead418 held out his arm obediently. The mayor hesitated for a moment, obviously pained by the action he was now forced to take. Silently he cursed the Cosa Nuova for forcing the town to resort to such desperate measures. Resolutely, he took the proffered arm and plunged the needle into it.

The crowd began to disperse as Cowhead418 was made to lie down. His eyes were feeling heavy, and he decided to close them for a moment. They never opened again.

Dutch_guy and King Henry V had been among those not choosing to participate in the voting process. The two of them had left in the middle of the mayor’s initial announcement to enjoy some time on their jet skis out in the bay. Despite the town’s imminent danger, they had decided to stand aloof and let others handle the situation.

Another individual, Evil_Maniac From Mars, had stayed long enough to cast his vote – but only just barely. He also strongly preferred to spend his time at the beach – after all, with the threat of the Cosa Nuova hanging over their heads, who knew how much time any of them had left? EMFM cast his ballot, then immediately raced to the beach without waiting to hear the result.

There wasn’t much daylight left, and by the time the three individuals were ready to bring their jet skis back to the docks, it was twilight. They fell into line and began to head back, when suddenly…

…a pan-dimensional portal opened directly ahead of them! The odds against such a thing happening were approximately 3,758,572,746,811,554,987 to one, but what none of them realized was that somewhere in the galaxy, a device known as the “Infinite Improbability Drive” had taken care of that. In the 3.52 seconds that the portal was open, all three of them drove straight into it, having been unable to swerve away.

They tumbled through the space-time fabric of the universe for a few short moments before coming to rest in unfamiliar surroundings. They were in a dimly-lighted hallway, with metallic walls of a sickly brownish-yellowish color. EMFM barely had time to comment “what in dingo’s kidneys?” before they heard harsh voices coming rapidly closer.

Two massive, blob-like beings rounded a corner straight ahead and immediately stared straight at the three hapless humans. “Hitchhikers!” one of them shouted. “Seize them!” With surprising speed, the two creatures, which looked a bit like massively obese, hunched-over, and hideously deformed humans (if you used your imagination), came charging down the hall and seized them before they had even had a chance to get to their feet.

EMFM, Dutch_guy, and KHV were lifted up and carried, protesting, down many winding, hideously identical hallways. Finally they were brought into a large room with a high ceiling. Another one of the creatures was resting in a tall chair-like contraption at the head of the room. The three humans were hastily thrown against a wall and fastened tightly to it with restraints.

“Hitchhikers, sir,” the first creature said. “We found them trying to stow away in Refuse Section R55.” He suddenly emitted a loud noise that was somewhere between laughing and hurling. “Have fun with ‘em!” he shouted, and he and his partner left the room.

“Well, well, well,” said the creature in the chair as he slowly rose from it, waddling over to his prisoners. “Thought you could stow away on my ship? Pah!” he spat. “I hate hitchhikers. Scum of the galaxy!”

“Wh… who… who are you?” managed EMFM.

“Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Intergalactic Hyperspace Council,” the creature said. “And you are in violation of at least 19 different regulations. Too bad you’ve caught me in a particularly foul mood; I’m afraid I’m going to have to… read you some of my recent poetry.”

The three looked at each other and raised their eyebrows. Poetry? They had expected far worse. How bad could it be?

Meanwhile, the Vogon had pulled some scraps of paper out and was unfolding them. “Ahem,” he said. “I think you’ll particularly enjoy this piece. It’s inspired by events on your own miserable little planet, in fact… I call it my ‘Ode to a Crappy Blog’”.

Protetnic Vogon Jeltz began to read:

See, see the dead and vapid blogsite flail about
Marvel at its vomit-coloured geek's lay-out.
And lack of content! Tell me, blogger, does it cause you
To wonder why the blogosphere ignores you?

By the first line-and-a-half, all three humans realized they had made a terrible miscalculation. They screamed in agony and tried to cover their ears, but their arms were pinned. EMFM was holding out a little better than the other two, but not by much. The Vogon continued:

Why their feeble stare makes you feel off-stage?
I can tell you: E'en your shag is
Worried by your whifflesnaffig faecial page
That looks like an aborted haggis.

Dutch_guy was the first to succumb, about half-way through the second stanza. His brain simply imploded. Moments later, the blood vessels in King Henry V’s head all burst simultaneously, killing him. EMFM was barely hanging on, breathing hard and sweating profusely. He shut his eyes tightly and prepared for the end, as the Vogon coughed and opened his mouth one final time…

What's more, the blogosphere sure knows
Your futt-grunting blog smells of peigh, or pee or 22/7
Rotting under the big dead sky.
It asks "Why,
Why do you even bother? You couldn't charm a Tellurium-breather's nose!"

EMFM had heard everything up to “futt-grunting,” when his internal organs suddenly turned inside out. With one final gurgle, he was gone.

Votes:

Cowhead418: 6 (Byzantine Mercenary, Crazed Rabbit, Peasant Phill, Seamus Fermanagh, Silver Rusher, Sir Moody)

Silver Rusher: 5 (Cowhead418, Csar, Evil_Maniac From Mars, Proletariat, Tiberius)

Xiahou: 1 (Sigurd Frafnesbane)

Abstain: 1 (Reenk Roink)

Not Voting: 9 (Destroyer of Hope, discovery1, doc_bean, Dutch_guy, Glaucus, King Henry V, Leet Eriksson, Xiahou, Zalmoxis)

Status List:

Killed:
Big King Sanctaphrax
GeneralHankerchief
AggonyDuck
ByzantineKnight
Divine Wind
Drisos

Executed:
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Cowhead418

Suicide:
Orb
King Henry V
Dutch_guy
Evil_Maniac From Mars

Still Alive:
Byzantine Mercenary
Crazed Rabbit
Csar
Destroyer of Hope
discovery1
doc_bean
Glaucus
Leet Eriksson
Peasant Phill
Proletariat
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Silver Rusher
Sir Moody
Tiberius
Xiahou
Zalmoxis

Notes:

EMFM asked to be killed in this way. Dutch_guy and King Henry V have now missed three voting rounds in a row, which is why they joined him.

Csargo

10-20-2006, 02:12

Please, do read my posts in the future before making replies like that.

Maybe it wasn't a staunch defense but it was a defense all the same. I love how completely avoided my question.

Why didn't you defend Kage too? You could have no idea if he was a detective or not. Just the same as Sasaki you can't prove if he was Detective or a mafioso. Just because he had a the PM he still could have faked it. I doubt it would be that hard.

Evil_Maniac From Mars

10-20-2006, 02:25

Thanks Kommodus, for brilliant writeup, excellent hosting, and a wonderful finish to my career in this particular episode. :2thumbsup:

Csargo

10-20-2006, 02:34

That's Kommodus EMFM

Evil_Maniac From Mars

10-20-2006, 02:47

:laugh4: :help: :laugh4:

doc_bean

10-20-2006, 12:50

Damn, missed the voting, you really can't have a life to play this game well, can you ? :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Silver Rusher

10-20-2006, 16:02

Maybe it wasn't a staunch defense but it was a defense all the same. I love how completely avoided my question.

Why didn't you defend Kage too? You could have no idea if he was a detective or not. Just the same as Sasaki you can't prove if he was Detective or a mafioso. Just because he had a the PM he still could have faked it. I doubt it would be that hard.
I will assume there is a "you" after the love in the bolded sentence.

Avoided my question? In what way? You asked why I didn't defend Kagemusha, I brought out a whole paragraph and a half about it. If two potential detectives are alive it does nothing but cause confusion among the villagers. They won't be able to tell which one is telling the truth, will they? So having both wouldn't help the detectives. The best thing to do is simply to kill off the one who seems most likely to be a mafioso.

Sir Moody

10-20-2006, 16:27

but they were both as suspicous as the other hence why we lynched them both

Crazed Rabbit

10-20-2006, 17:36

Csar, that's some real weak evidence you're throwing against Silver. "He didn't defend Kage" and so must be mafia? What?

Crazed Rabbit

Seamus Fermanagh

10-20-2006, 17:50

A list of repeatedly "inactive" voters:

Leet Erik' = No Vote, Abstain, No Vote

Reenk R' = Abstain, No Vote, Abstain

Zalmoxis = No Vote, Abstain, No Vote

Is there any significance to this? All have posted, but nothing developed.

Other unusual vote patterns:

Glaucus = No Lynch, 4 Votes in same round for Sasaki, No Vote

Destroyer = Kagemusha, No Vote, No Vote (2/3 suicided)

Glaucus, was your sole goal in this game fulfilled with the 2nd lynching?

Kommodus

10-20-2006, 18:21

The home of Crazed Rabbit was slightly removed from Ogunquit proper, nestled into a shallow valley a mere half-mile to the north. There it was protected from the strong winds that sometimes blew in from the ocean, especially during cold northern winters. The once-green hills on either side of the valley were now tinted sharply with orange, red, and gold, a reminder that the cold season was not far off.

Crazed Rabbit’s mind was occupied with many thoughts as he returned from the evening’s execution, driving up the road that wound its way through the center of the valley. The individual he had voted for had been executed, but somehow he didn’t feel right about the whole business. There hadn’t been much evidence, and yet the mayor hadn’t even tried to stop the execution – in fact, he’d encouraged it, at a time when the people’s enthusiasm for such a curious means of criminal justice seemed to be waning. The reversal of roles was disturbing, to say the least.

Rabbit reached his driveway, and drove the couple of hundred yards up the slight incline to his house. He parked the car, got out, and stepped inside the front door. Taking off his coat, he headed for the kitchen. For some reason he had a slight craving for pancakes – odd for this time of day, he thought.

Suddenly there was a sharp whistling sound outside, followed by a loud explosion! The ground shook and the dishes rattled in the cupboards. Crazed Rabbit rushed to a back window and looked out. Even in the twilight, he could clearly see a pillar of black smoke rising from the ground less than thirty yards from the back porch.

While he was still staring at this, wondering what to make of it, he heard the whistling sound again. This time the ensuing explosion was even closer and louder; a shell had hit the ground on the east side of the house. Windows shattered and glass flew everywhere; the explosion was so powerful it caused the nearest wall to buckle.

Crazed Rabbit couldn’t identify the source of the attack, but he knew he had to get out of the house. Racing back through the kitchen, he headed for the front door. He was almost there when he heard the whistling sound one last time. It was the last thing he heard.

A powerful shell struck the house dead-center. The massive explosion shattered support beams and flung debris as fast as bullets everywhere. A piece of brick hit Crazed Rabbit in the side of the head, knocking him to the floor, unconscious. A few seconds later, what was left of the house collapsed, crushing him under the rubble.

…

Sir Moody had not gone home after the execution, opting instead to spend the evening at a local billiards hall with a group of friends. They were gathered around a pool table, drinks in hand, when suddenly they heard a sound like thunder in the distance. “Sounds like a storm coming,” someone said. Sir Moody furrowed his eyebrows at this, looking out a window. “That seems a bit unlikely,” he said. “The sky is perfectly clear.”

The others simply shrugged and turned their attention back to the game. Sir Moody took a large swallow of his drink and watched as another player lined up his shot and fired. It was an excellent shot – one ball in each of the two far corners.

About fifteen minutes later, Sir Moody himself was lining up a shot of his own. His mug rested empty on a nearby table; hopefully the bartender brought another soon. Focusing on the task at hand, he held the cue between his finger and thumb, then slowly drew it back…

Suddenly, involuntarily, his neck sharply twitched! The stick glanced off the cue ball, then fell out of his hands, clattering noisily to the floor. He felt his right arm twitch, then his left. What was happening to him?

Sir Moody’s friends were beginning to leave off their conversations and turning to stare at him, as the spasms became worse. Within moments they spread to his legs, and he collapsed to the ground, convulsing violently. “Hey man, are you alright?” someone asked, bending down to grasp his arm. The touch only seemed to make the spasms worse.

“Quick! Someone call 911!” Sir Moody heard someone shout. He was gasping for breath, trying desperately to bring his muscles under control. His efforts were failing and breathing was becoming more and more difficult. Then the pain struck – agonizing, searing pain coursing through his entire body. He tried to scream, but no sound came out.

Mercifully, it didn’t last long. The remaining occupants of the bar were left to stare open-mouthed at Sir Moody’s stiff corpse, frozen in an unnatural position with a wide-eyed look of horror permanently etched on his face.

…

The sun was beginning to set as the mayor inserted a DVD into his laptop, preparing to watch the video instructions on it. How many times had he seen it? He’d lost count years ago. He watched silently in the darkened office, wishing for the thousandth time that someone else had been chosen for this task.

“…and as you can no doubt perceive, information of this gravity is impossible to protect by force, even if the entire United States military were to stand guard round the clock,” the man in the video was saying. “Our only hope lies in utter secrecy. A town like Ogunquit is the last place anyone would think to look.”

There was a knock at the door. The mayor hurriedly closed the laptop, stuffed it into a safe inside a wall, locked it, and closed a secret panel over it. “Come in,” he said.

An assistant opened the door and poked her head in. “They’re all here again,” she said. “You’d better go out and tell them something.”

The mayor nodded. He rose from his desk and walked out the front door of the town hall, where once again, the entire population of Ogunquit had gathered. It seemed somewhat fewer than it had been in the past.

“Ladies and gentlemen,” the mayor said, addressing the crowd, “we are still under attack by the Cosa Nuova, who appear to be getting even bolder. Crazed Rabbit’s house was shelled by a howitzer, which we recovered. Sir Moody’s cause of death was determined to be strychnine poisoning by the medical examiner. In addition, three other villagers have been missing since last night. We have no information on the whereabouts of Dutch_guy, King Henry V, or Evil_Maniac From Mars.”

“No tragedy of this magnitude has ever occurred in Ogunquit before,” the mayor pronounced. “Truly these are desperate times. We simply must purge the invaders from among us!”

The mayor’s desperation unnerved the people, but they knew what was coming. The town’s defenses simply were not equipped to deal with this threat. “Vote carefully,” the mayor advised. “It is vital that we all pull together for our mutual defense.”

Silver Rusher

10-20-2006, 18:39

Vote: Seamus Fermanagh. He has been posting fairly regularly with thought out posts, yet not thrown around too many accusations. He has been one of the few players in this game so far to speak about the doctor and he has not once received a single vote nor a glance of suspicion (EDIT: 'cept this one). Somehow, despite him thoroughly being what I would call 'mafia meat', he still hasn't been murdered. I find this quite suspicious as he would seem a likely murder candidate for the mafia, and the only way he couldn't ever be murdered is if he was a mafioso.

Far from certain, of course, but it's all we've got (apart from some flimsy evidence against me of course).

Seamus Fermanagh

10-20-2006, 18:57

Intereresting points Silver. I suspect my failing to get myself murdered is attributable more to the fact that I'm in my first game -- no "mafia-game" track record to set people's antennae whirling -- than anything else. I had wondered if my analytical posts would create a desire to whack me -- or whether their neutral tone would leave me "under the radar."

I'm not a mafioso, and I am as innocent (in this game) as you.

I did not start this game out with a PM from Kommo'. Did you?

By contrast, I am more concerned with Siggy -- sadly for many of the same reasons you suggest of me:dizzy2: -- but he has made accusations and called new names into the line of fire.

Csargo

10-20-2006, 19:26

Csar, that's some real weak evidence you're throwing against Silver. "He didn't defend Kage" and so must be mafia? What?

Crazed Rabbit

Never said that.

And Silver like Sir Moody said that's why we lynched them both. You can't tell which one was detective or not so we were forced to kill them both.

Silver Rusher

10-20-2006, 19:42

And Silver like Sir Moody said that's why we lynched them both. You can't tell which one was detective or not so we were forced to kill them both.
Doesn't matter if you don't know, it still makes more sense to leave one of them alive.

Intereresting points Silver. I suspect my failing to get myself murdered is attributable more to the fact that I'm in my first game -- no "mafia-game" track record to set people's antennae whirling -- than anything else. I had wondered if my analytical posts would create a desire to whack me -- or whether their neutral tone would leave me "under the radar."
Sorry, Seamus, but you do seem like walking bait for the mafia. I think the neutral tone would be the salt on it: more accusations mean more 'enemies' (for lack of a better word) which means more suspicion. As no suspicion has fallen on you and you are fairly prominent I think you are a more obvious target than several of the people the mafia have already killed. The only explanations for this without you being a mafioso that I can think of are:

a) You PM'd somebody saying you think they are innocent, and they are mafia (unlikely)
b) This is all a huge, elaborate frame-up (very unlikely)
c) The mafia didn't notice you (also unlikely)

Csargo

10-20-2006, 19:57

Doesn't matter if you don't know, it still makes more sense to leave one of them alive.

What happens when you leave the wrong one alive? Then you possible still have 3 alive instead of 2. I see no point in risking it even if Sasaki was the detective.

Reenk Roink

10-20-2006, 20:41

Reenkmeister does not understand why Seamus Fermanagh and doc_bean are suspicious of him because of his abstaining (courteously). Has not he made it clear that he is wary of the inefficacy of voting and the unethical practice of voting without a very strong reason to do so? His failure to vote on round two was due to his deliberation of Sasaki's guilt or innocence, and he was considering to vote against Sasaki because of the extreme suspicion of his behavior, but the opportunity passed by too quickly.

However, though these suspicions are troubling, they are not enough to warrant a boot from the Fan Club and subsequent retaliation voting.

Thus he abstains, courteously... :bow:

Csargo

10-20-2006, 20:55

Xiahou

10-20-2006, 21:29

Well, I've just got to go with my gut on this one and..

Vote:disco

The guy was in a big hurry to see people lynched in round one and has been laying low ever since. Everyone who makes any suggestion or accusation is lynched- meanwhile he's just sitting back quietly watching the town tear itself apart. :inquisitive:

Seamus Fermanagh

10-20-2006, 21:33

Vote: Sigurd

-- Crazed Rabbit tapped you in Round #2, now he's gone.
-- Your postings have been as involved as mine, but your introduction of new names into the mix, the odd bolding of one letter in one of your posts, etc. seem suspicious.

Note: I am suspicious of you, not convinced utterly that your a bad'un.

Silver:

Is this the thanks I get? 'twas my information that swayed Sir Moody - RIP - away from you and onto Cowhead. Were I mafiosi, would I have really put out evidence to protect you AND then whacked the person who I was having success influencing? If I'm mafia, I want to keep the person who leans towards trusting my posts breathing to use them further.

Sir Moody

10-20-2006, 21:38

Woohooo my first death in a mafia game :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

as a quick whisper from the dead id be very suspicous of csar right since both people who were knocked off (me and rabbit) were agreeing with him - not decisive but there you go

Good luck all ill chime in if i notice anything

Silver Rusher

10-20-2006, 21:40

Seamus, I thank you for swaying Sir Moody but I'm not going to change my vote just because of that. Onto more important points:

Were I mafiosi, would I have really put out evidence to protect you AND then whacked the person who I was having success influencing? If I'm mafia, I want to keep the person who leans towards trusting my posts breathing to use them further.
That's a convincing argument. But the fact that you would point it out yourself rather than letting another villager realise it sort of cancels it out in my mind. Yes, it is convincing, but it's also easy to fake.

EDIT: Sir Moody, I think Crazed Rabbit was strongly disagreeing with Csar.

Sir Moody

10-20-2006, 21:44

sigh your right sorry :help:

Csargo

10-20-2006, 21:57

Your kidding me right? You think I killed Crazed Rabbit if you look at obvious clues you will see that I couldn't have.

Csargo

10-20-2006, 22:16

Oh and Xiahou I highly doubt Disco is a mafioso he hasn't been on since the 18th.

Vote: Destroyer of Hope

Glaucus

10-21-2006, 03:05

Vote: Sigurd

People who oppose him seem to disappear miraculously...

Lord Winter

10-21-2006, 03:22

Oh and Xiahou I highly doubt Disco is a mafioso he hasn't been on since the 18th.

Vote: Destroyer of Hope
And this is based off what?
I have been busy in real life recently and all my computer time has been taken up with 12th century glory. Now that weekends here hopefuly I can post more.

Did any one else notice this

have been thinking and there would be one other possible reason for silvers defending, he could be the detective and have investigated sasaki, dont want to take the risk realy for now so

Vote: Cowhead

i have a feeling that if and its a big if, silver is the detective the mafia would assume this and so attempt to get him lynched saving them the trouble
This was the deciding vote between lynching silver rusher and lynching cowhead. Would this not be a way to defend a fellow Mafioso without drawing too much suspicion? No reason for cowhead and only a reason not to lynch SR. Also Byz has bandwagoned all the rounds he has voted in (all except the first) with very little reason why. It seems like an attempt to stay in the background.

Edit Added Byzs name to quote taggs

Csargo

10-21-2006, 03:54

And this is based off what?
I have been busy in real life recently and all my computer time has been taken up with 12th century glory. Now that weekends here hopefuly I can post more.

I was based off of how you haven't been posting that much or at all.

Crazed Rabbit

10-21-2006, 04:02

Silver, I wouldn't go after Seamus. He's posting like he does in the backroom- very analytical and well thought out posts.

A much better target, for all, would be Sigurd. He's been acting very strangely, especially near the begining and his odd attempt to get suspicion on Xiahou and Proletariat. And is it coincidence I get killed two rounds after voting for him? Not a frame, as its been too long. Perhaps Sigurd thinks its long enough that people won't remember my suspicions of him.

Crazed Rabbit
PS- This mafia has no regard for tradition! They're supposed to wait until the last few rounds to kill me off. But death by howitzer isn't too bad.

Avicenna

10-21-2006, 07:50

Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane

Lord Winter

10-21-2006, 08:02

Forgot to put in my vote in the last post
Vote: Byzantine Mercenary

Peasant Phill

10-21-2006, 10:02

Vote: Silver Rusher

I said I was still suspicious of you in my last post and not much else has changed.

Silver Rusher

10-21-2006, 12:06

Oh and Xiahou I highly doubt Disco is a mafioso he hasn't been on since the 18th.

Vote: Destroyer of Hope
Strange. Last time I checked that post said Reenk Roink, not Destroyer of Hope. Not only that, but you provided no reasoning whatsoever.

Unvote: Seamus Fermanagh (this isn't over!)
Vote: Csar

EDIT: CR, don't you think that style of posting would attract the mafia's attention if it drew no suspicion at all? That Seamus wasn't one of the 8 the mafia have already killed is very strange indeed.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-21-2006, 13:41

Strange. Last time I checked that post said Reenk Roink, not Destroyer of Hope. Not only that, but you provided no reasoning whatsoever.

His voting pattern: Kage, Sasaki, Silver; doesn't say much one way or the other. I'd have to check back to see if he votes early on jumps on the bandwagon. Changed from Reenk? Didn't catch that.

Unvote: Seamus Fermanagh (this isn't over!)
Vote: Csar

EDIT: CR, don't you think that style of posting would attract the mafia's attention if it drew no suspicion at all? That Seamus wasn't one of the 8 the mafia have already killed is very strange indeed.

Or, they could think that I'm off track and doing more harm to the village than good. :beam: I expect to not wake up sometime soon.

Silver Rusher

10-21-2006, 13:54

Not with the suspicion I've cast on you.

Kommodus

10-21-2006, 16:11

Only a little over two hours to go on the voting, people - get your votes in! Due to my schedule today, there won't be much of an extension.

Sigurd

10-21-2006, 17:34

I see people think I am mafia. I don’t blame you considering the mark of Cain I got after ‘Gotta have more mafia’.
It would be silly to kill Crazed Rabbit even though he voted for me once. In fact, the mafia is not paying attention. Or are they? Crazed Rabbit was on my suspicion list after defending Sasaki and voting for me without any reason. Then he get himself killed and becomes that more powerful. I believe the mafia got wary after killing GH, realising that killing either me or Seamus would create much more powerful players. That I am about to be lynched will suit the mafia good as my credibility is now shot from shady to non-existent. Good play mafia, the townies doesn’t have a clue. I am now forced to join Kage, Sasaki and Cowhead in the silent ranks.
I guess I’ll vote for Discovery, you voted for me in the first round. Wary of me are we?

Vote: Discovery

Reenk Roink

10-21-2006, 18:35

Strange. Last time I checked that post said Reenk Roink, not Destroyer of Hope.

So he did...

Csar, if this is true, that is indeed worthy of a boot from the Fan Club (Fan Club = ~:grouphug:).

Still, retaliation voting is out of the question as of now...

doc_bean

10-21-2006, 19:31

vote: Csar

EDIT to explain because I didn't want Kommodus checking the votes before mine was cast.

Not much to go on now really, he's been acting a bit strange, although it's hard to say what's really so strange about it. Either way I don't think my vote will get him lynched.

Kommodus

10-21-2006, 19:33

*** Voting Closed ***

Stand by for execution.

Kommodus

10-21-2006, 19:45

Thunder rumbled in the distance. This time it was real; black thunderclouds were clearly visible off the coast to the south, and dim flashes of light could be seen beneath them. They were still far off, but given the speed at which the storm was moving, everyone knew it would be upon them in minutes.

The last ballot had been cast a short time ago, and the mayor’s staff was busy tallying the votes. It didn’t take nearly as long as on previous evenings, due to the town’s dwindling population. Also, in the absence of solid evidence, many were voting based on something more… primal.

Beneath Ogunquit’s placid, neighborly surface, old rivalries, suspicions, and distrust had been simmering for a long time. These festering conflicts were beginning to boil to the surface as the town’s social ties broke down under relentless pressure. Now, with the town’s survival on the line, they were influencing the vote decisively.

One of the mayor’s aids handed him a printed message. He simply nodded when he read it; the name on it was no surprise. This particular villager was too well-known as a clever, convincing man; given enough time, there were few he couldn’t sway to his point of view. Now, however, these characteristics would be his undoing, as they were remembered by those whom he had persuaded in the past.

Even the mayor himself was wary of this man. Instead of his usual announcement, he simply whispered something into the ear of a nearby policeman, who nodded and marched into the crowd. He made his way past several people and finally stopped at Sigurd Fafnesbane. “Come with me, please,” he said firmly, laying his hand on the Sigurd’s shoulder.

Sigurd looked up, utterly shocked. His countrymen had voted for him? Impossible! Nevertheless, he was led to the front, muttering as he walked. “Who could it be?” he kept saying to himself. “Who? There must be an answer!”

The mayor faced Sigurd, who finally stopped talking to himself and returned the gaze. “Sigurd Fafnesbane,” the mayor said, “you are accused of conspiring with the Cosa Nuova to kill many of our friends. Please, tell us why you would do such a thing.”

Sigurd shook his head desperately. “I’m not a murderer,” he said. “Surely you wouldn’t put a man to death based on such flimsy evidence?”

But the mayor had already drawn the syringe filled with poison from his briefcase. “You know the situation, Sigurd,” he said. “The stakes are too high to do things as we might prefer. Enough of your countrymen believe you to be a Mafioso that we cannot take the risk of letting you live.”

With that, he took Sigurd’s arm and plunged the needle into it. “I am sorry you have chosen not to come clean,” he said. “May God have mercy on your soul.”

As Sigurd’s eyes slowly closed for the last time, the crowd dispersed. They moved quickly, as the rain was just starting. Many thoughts were going through their minds as they departed. Had they done the right thing? What was the mayor hiding? And if the Cosa Nuova had not been dealt with, who would be their next victim?

Votes:

Sigurd Fafnesbane: 3 (Glaucus, Seamus Fermanagh, Tiberius)

Csar: 2 (doc_bean, Silver Rusher)

discovery1: 2 (Sigurd Fafnesbane, Xiahou)

Byzantine Mercenary: 1 (Destroyer of Hope)

Destroyer of Hope: 1 (Csar)

Silver Rusher: 1 (Peasant Phill)

Abstain: 1 (Reenk Roink)

Not Voting: 5 (Byzantine Mercenary, discovery1, Leet Eriksson, Proletariat, Zalmoxis)

Status List:

Killed:
Big King Sanctaphrax
GeneralHankerchief
AggonyDuck
ByzantineKnight
Divine Wind
Drisos
Crazed Rabbit
Sir Moody

Executed:
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Cowhead418
Sigurd Fafnesbane

Suicide:
Orb
King Henry V
Dutch_guy
Evil_Maniac From Mars

Still Alive:
Byzantine Mercenary
Csar
Destroyer of Hope
discovery1
doc_bean
Glaucus
Leet Eriksson
Peasant Phill
Proletariat
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
Silver Rusher
Tiberius
Xiahou
Zalmoxis

Proletariat

10-21-2006, 19:50

That sucks, I wanted to vote, but had to work this morning. Oh well, had no real hunch, would've been a throw away vote anyway.

Is there a set dead line for voting, Kommodus?

Kommodus

10-21-2006, 19:56

Is there a set dead line for voting, Kommodus?

Generally, everyone is given 24 hours to vote (give or take). That 24-hour period starts when I post the kills. It's frequently extended somewhat because of constraints in my own schedule, but this shouldn't be counted on - gotta keep the game moving. ~;)

Drisos

10-22-2006, 11:46

:book:

I'm suspicious towards Tiberius right now. No explanation for his vote, but it did cost Sigurd his head.

oh right.. I'm dead..:skull: well..

GeneralHankerchief

10-22-2006, 16:01

Ok, I want a little bit more conversation in this thread, so I'm going to name two of my suspicions.

#1: Tiberius. He is right now following the classic mafia strategy of posting just enough to get by, and stay under the radar. In addition, he seems a bit too eager to defend himself. When Sigurd named the people who weren't posting that much, he didn't name Tib as one of them yet Tib still quickly gave an excuse.

#2: doc_bean. In all the games he's played, has doc ever been suspected? He's got that kind of personality that just lets him get by. Really, he can keep playing it cool right up until he slaughters the last two villagers to win the game. I'm worried that he's too under the radar.

Hopefully these two people will defend themselves and get this thread back to its start-of-game activity.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-22-2006, 16:22

Our current list of "inactive" voters:

Leet: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote

Reenk: Abstain, no vote, Abstain, Abstain (all, of course, courteously)

Zalmoxis: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote

Limited active voting:

Byz-Merc: no vote, Sasaki, Cowhead, no vote

Destroyer: Kagemusha, no vote, no vote, Byz-Merc

Discovery: Sigurd, Sasaki, no vote, no vote

Always actively voting:

Csar: Kagemusha, Sasaki, Silver, Destroyer

Silver: Kagemusha, Zalmoxis, Cowhead, Csar

All of the others voted thrice actively, with one Abstain, No Vote, or No Lynch.

Hearing more from Tiberius, and the three mostly inactives would be nice.

I have a sense from the tenor of their posts that Silver and Prole are on the side of the angels.

doc_bean

10-22-2006, 19:01

#2: doc_bean. In all the games he's played, has doc ever been suspected? He's got that kind of personality that just lets him get by. Really, he can keep playing it cool right up until he slaughters the last two villagers to win the game. I'm worried that he's too under the radar.

Honestly, I've been wondering why I haven't been voted on in this game yet :huh2:

That said, I don't think I've kept particulary quiet or 'under the radar', check the thread, I've made several long posts, some being quite 'controversial'.

Drisos

10-22-2006, 19:42

I did suspect doc_bean in 'The Godfather I'. ~:):book:

Silver Rusher

10-22-2006, 20:21

Also, he got lynched while playing as the Godfather in Gotta have more mafia.

Drisos

10-23-2006, 06:29

So GH's argument is not too strong. Suspicious. :P

Csargo

10-23-2006, 07:00

When can we expect the next kills Kommodus?:beam:

discovery1

10-23-2006, 07:38

And I'm back. Did you miss me? There is no way I'm going over the last two rounds.

We broke the bed. It was funny.

Sigurd

10-23-2006, 08:28

And I'm back. Did you miss me? There is no way I'm going over the last two rounds.

We broke the bed. It was funny.
We? ... as in you and ...

You said A, lets hear the juicy B details.

Kommodus

10-23-2006, 18:10

Torrents of rain beat upon the ground with punishing severity as Peasant Phill drove home. Of all the townspeople, he had the furthest to go; the drive was several miles long and took him down country roads that wound through the rolling hills and flat farmlands that bordered Ogunquit on the north and west sides. The mountainous terrain ensured that agriculture had never been the town’s primary industry; however, the small amount of fertile ground was rich, black earth, a legacy of the glacial age.

Peasant Phill raced up the steps of his small farmhouse and hurriedly closed the front door behind him. Shaking the rain from his overcoat, he hung it on the rack by the door and proceeded to head for the cellar. His gun rack waited there, and he had no intention of leaving himself defenseless for the night. If attacked, he planned to be ready.

Just as he placed his hand on the cellar door, he suddenly heard the sound of footsteps! He froze and listened closely; the sound was coming from the cellar. There was something else odd about it – the footsteps didn’t sound quite human. They sounded like they were coming from some kind of four-legged animal. Whatever it was, it was quite large.

Peasant Phill was puzzled; how could such a creature have gotten into his house? He had been careful to lock up before leaving. He retreated from the cellar door and grabbed a large kitchen knife. Cautiously he approached the door a second time and quietly opened it. As he made his way down the stairs, he realized the sound of footsteps had stopped. Had he somehow imagined it?

Arriving at the bottom, he reached for the light switch, when suddenly he was hit and knocked to the ground by something huge and furry! Looking up, he was terrified at what he saw – an enormous tiger was snarling at him and preparing to pounce again.

Phill reached for the knife he had dropped, but the tiger was upon him too quickly, slashing at him with its claws. He cried out in pain and desperately tried to push away the fangs of the big cat. Bringing his legs above him, he managed to kick the tiger in the chest, pushing it off for a moment.

He was bleeding badly, but the adrenaline was pumping. Leaping to his feet, he raced for the gun rack. He grabbed for a rifle, and almost had it when the tiger hit him from behind. The rifle clattered to the floor a few feet away, as Phill’s death-struggle continued. The tiger’s massive strength was winning the day, as it succeeded in sinking its teeth deeply into his shoulder.

Realizing he would soon lose consciousness, Phill tried one last desperate move. Rolling to his right, he managed to grab the rifle and bring it to bear on his foe. As the tiger prepared for one final lunge, he fired. The tiger dropped in a heap beside him, dead.

Peasant Phill was alive, but he was bleeding badly from many gashes. He knew he didn’t have long. Reaching into his pocket, he pulled out a cell phone and dialed 911.

“Please state the nature of the emergency,” said a voice on the other end.

“Peasant Phill here… please… help me… I’ve been attacked…” he spoke into the phone. “I’m at home… hurry…” With that, he lost consciousness. His last thought before everything went black was “How will they possibly get here in time?”

Fortunately, an ambulance was on patrol not far from Phill’s house. Within moments it was racing there, sirens blaring. Paramedics searched the house quickly and efficiently, and soon found him unconscious in the basement. Hastily applying bandages to stop the bleeding, they quickly rushed him to the hospital.

…

Glaucus had slept fitfully through the night. Despite the comforting sound of rain on his roof and windows, he couldn’t sleep. Questions continually troubled his mind. Even more than the identity and motives of the Cosa Nuova operatives, he wondered what the mayor was hiding. Something told him that if he could find the answer to the second question, he might be able to figure out the first as well.

Thus it was that the sky had only just begun to lighten when he decided to get up and go for an early morning walk to clear his head. The rain had stopped and the sky was clear. Glaucus loved the many trails that wound their way through the cliffs and heights of Ogunquit; they offered many a breathtaking, scenic view.

Some time later, he was strolling briskly down a high path, overlooking the ocean to the east. The sun was just beginning to rise. He stopped, and stepped off the beaten trail, through a clump of pine trees. Emerging from the forest, he found himself standing on a high precipice, which dropped vertically to the dark blue water hundreds of feet below. The sound of waves crashing against the granite cliffs mingled with the crying of the gulls.

Glaucus suddenly heard the sound of branches cracking behind him. Immediately alert, he turned around sharply and listened. There was nothing there. “Must’ve been a squirrel or bird,” he thought, turning back to look out at the horizon.

Suddenly something struck him from behind, causing him to stumble. For a moment, he teetered on the edge, trying to regain his balance. Then he was struck again, and over the edge he fell.

Down, down he plunged, heading straight for the dark water below. The air racing past him took his breath away; he couldn’t even scream. In a few brief moments he splashed down into the cold, foaming waves.

Glaucus was a reasonably strong swimmer, and at first he hoped he could swim to shore. Unfortunately. the water was not as deep beneath the cliff as it looked, and the fall had been very far. As he went under, Glaucus felt his arm connect sharply with an underwater rock. It was broken.

Surfacing, he looked around him, and despaired. The cliff was smooth and vertical in both directions; there was nothing to grasp and no ledges to climb onto. He tried calling for help, but in such a remote location no one would hear. He tried swimming, but with a broken arm there was no way he could make it far. Soon he tired, his struggles weakened, and he went under for the last time.

…

The town meeting that night, which had become a regular occurrence since the arrival of the Cosa Nuova, was buzzing with questions. Everyone wanted to know the state of their beloved farmer. Would Peasant Phill recover? Had he been able to identify his attacker?

The mayor stepped up to the podium to address the crowd. “Ladies and gentlemen,” he said, “I have some good news. Peasant Phill is a very hardy individual; he’s going to pull through. In fact, he’s already regained consciousness. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the attack on him, he had no way to tell who released the tiger in his house.”

Everyone was disappointed at this, but the mayor wasn’t finished. “In addition, we still have no information on the whereabouts of Glaucus. We have no choice but to presume him dead.”

There were more grumblings from the crowd. To say the people were fed up with the situation was an understatement. “Excuse me?” a voice called out. “Isn’t it time we brought in some outside help?” There were loud shouts of agreement to this. “Past time!” someone cried. “Call the National Guard!” said another voice.

“NO!” shouted the mayor sharply into the mic. Everyone stopped talking and looked at each other, confused. What had he said? “No,” said the mayor, more calmly this time. “The National Guard would only confuse things and cause more harm than good. We can deal with this problem ourselves. We just have to be intelligent and vigilant.” He was careful not to mention what he was truly afraid of, but suspicious eyebrows were raised throughout the crowd anyway. The mayor’s argument didn’t make any sense.

“What are you not telling us?” someone shouted, giving voice to everyone else’s thoughts.

The mayor looked uncomfortable. “I’ve told you everything I know!” he said, slightly indignant. “Please, stick with the plan. If we start distrusting each other, the Cosa Nuova are sure to win. Now, think about everything you’ve seen in the past few days. If we pool our knowledge, I’m certain we can figure out who the villains are.”

GeneralHankerchief

10-23-2006, 20:01

Wow. Peasant Phill got saved.

So at least we know one person who's alive and innocent. Good job, doc.

Csargo

10-23-2006, 20:16

Vote: Discovery

Alright my reasoning for voting Disco is quite simple. The last lynch was posted at 10-21-2006, 18:45 there hasn't been any kills since then. Disco was away for 3 days he told me in the chat and I have seen on the Member profiles the last mafia kills were on 10-20-2006, 17:21 exactly three days ago. It seems rather odd that it would take 2 days to post the kills unless the mafia has been away and not able to tell Kommodus who they want killed. That is my reason for voting Disco.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-23-2006, 20:58

This crap here in Ogunquit is getting to me. I keep thinking I’m hearing the dead speak – sometimes crying for vengeance, but other times tossing jokes?!?

Anyway, here’s an open missive for you all as I look at our dwindling numbers and begin to worry.

I was activated as a detective during the aftermath of 2nd “judicial” lynching, and have been conducting investigations using the special intelligence software provided with my activation order.

(ooc -- I suspect that Orb & King Henry going on vac had something to do with the timing; I have cut and pasted in the PM exchanges on this for all of you to review)

My investigations have uncovered none of the Cosa Nuove, but I am in a position to confirm the innocence of the following townies:

Discovery, Proletariat (forgive me marchioness), & Silver.

If the voices I am hearing in my head – Hanky of all people, I have got to stop dropping double shots of Dew into my Guinness – are right, and Phil is in the clear, that leaves us with:

Byz-Merc, Csar, Destroyer, Doc Bean, Leet, Reenk, Tiberius, Xiahou, Zalmoxis.

I think it is important that we hear from all of these folks soon, and at some length.

Bona Fides:

Detective!

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Hello Seamus,

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I've been forced to remove one of my detectives from his position in Cosa Nuova and give the role to another. A random selection has chosen you to replace him.

You may decline this role if you don't want it. If you decline, however, please pretend that you did not receive this PM from me.

Assuming you accept, I think you know how it works: each night (following the executions), you PM me with the name of a player to investigate. I respond with a guilty or innocent verdict. If you get it right, you also get the names of the mafioso's past victims.

You cannot reveal your role to anyone, except publicly in the thread. Be careful to do this at the right time, however - it will make you a target for the mafia.

If you are killed or executed, your role and the information you gathered dies with you. You can't posthumously reveal that you were a detective, or the results of your investigations.

Your first opportunity to perform an investigation begins now. Normally you'll have 24 hours to PM me with your investigation, but unfortunately this time you don't have that long since the 24-hour period began some time ago.

I look forward to your first investigation.
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A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handey

Re: Detective!

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Thanks for your prompt response! I'm glad you've accepted. Good luck finding the mafia!

Normally I'd give you your predecessor's records, but in this case there are circumstances that make it impossible. Sorry.

As for your investigation, Silver Rusher is innocent.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
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Originally Posted by Kommodus
I look forward to your first investigation.

This is my first game, but I'll take a stab at it.

Do I gain the "records" of my predecessor?

If not, I will investigate Silver Rusher.

If so, please forward and I will quickly re-choose if Silver has already been investigated.

Enjoying this odd little game very much so far.

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Re: Detective!

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Thanks for your prompt response! I'm glad you've accepted. Good luck finding the mafia!

Normally I'd give you your predecessor's records, but in this case there are circumstances that make it impossible. Sorry.

As for your investigation, Silver Rusher is innocent.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
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Originally Posted by Kommodus
I look forward to your first investigation.

This is my first game, but I'll take a stab at it.

Do I gain the "records" of my predecessor?

If not, I will investigate Silver Rusher.

If so, please forward and I will quickly re-choose if Silver has already been investigated.

Enjoying this odd little game very much so far.

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A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handey

Re: Detective!

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Proletariat is innocent.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Investigate: Proletariat

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A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handey

Re: Detective!

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There's no set amount of time between my reply containing the results of your investigation and when the kills are posted, but I'll try to give you a reasonable amount of time. Due to my schedule this weekend, the kills will take a little longer to post than usual.

Regarding your investigation, discovery1 is innocent.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
...I have a gut feeling I won't survive the night. How do I go about assuring a general post of my investigation results (how much time between your pm responding to my investigation and your posting of the night's murders?).

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GeneralHankerchief

10-23-2006, 21:31

That definitely looks legit. I urge our remaining doctor to protect Seamus, as he could help solve us this mystery.

As mentioned before, I am suspicious of Tiberius and doc_bean, although you guys have done a good job of putting a dent in my reasoning of doc.

It looks as if, due to Seamus' reveal, the mafia will be busy the next three rounds in taking out the innocents (martyrs?) - Silver, Prole, and Disco. I think that Sigurd and Cowhead were both innocent, meaning we still have two mafiosi around. Let's make it a good endgame.

Byzantine Mercenary

10-23-2006, 21:31

Seamus Fermanagh

10-23-2006, 21:40

It looks as if, due to Seamus' reveal, the mafia will be busy the next three rounds in taking out the innocents (martyrs?) - Silver, Prole, and Disco. I think that Sigurd and Cowhead were both innocent, meaning we still have two mafiosi around. Let's make it a good endgame.

I'm sorry about that, but I wanted our Mafiosi facing a dilemma. If they murder the known innocent: Myself, Silver, Prole, Disco, and Phil, the others are going to get several lynching shots at them from a reduced list, and 2/9ths is a better hitting percentage ( I accept the general wisdom that either Sasaki or Kagemusha was mafia). If they ignore the innocent, they only worsen their direct odds. Not foolproof, I admit, but I thought the pressure appropriate at this juncture.

I wasn't kidding when I said these folks need to voice themselves clearly.

Vote -- Abstain (while awaiting commentaries)

Proletariat

10-23-2006, 21:57

Great stuff, Seamus. Worth it even if I do take a dirt nap tonight, I think the townies have the leverage now. Vote: Doc Bean until I hear a decent reason not to.

Csargo

10-23-2006, 22:04

alright then il assume you are telling the truth for now, the way i see it is if discovery realy is innocent my only indication as to who to vote for would be csar, for two reasons, one he posted early, i would guess that any mafia about, would be especially keen to make sure that they cant be accused of bandwagoning and so would post early to seem normal, my second reason would be who he voted for, a mafia is most likely to vote for someone innocent right, seeing as they would know who the other mafia are, now if discovery is innocent then that is indeed what he did. this is my best lead for now so,

Vote: Csar

Heh well since Disco is innocent I'll have to change my vote then won't I:yes:

As for your accusations

1. You've seen all the evidence I've put forward that would make Disco the perfect mafioso except for the fact that the Detective proved him innocent.

2.Coincidence I guess I should have held out before posting my suspicions.

The next person on my list is Destroyer of Hope.

Unvote:Disco
Vote Tiberius

My reasoning is he has voted just enough to get by the entire game once or twice at most. He has been acting strangely the whole game he is usually active in such mafia games but not so much this one. Seems suspicious to me. Next on my list is Zalmoxis and Destroyer of Hope

Xiahou

10-23-2006, 22:25

Well, we've definitely caught a break by having a doc and now a cop left. Something interesting though..... Looking at Seamus' PMs, I think we can now safely assume that Sasaki was a mafioso and Kage was the real detective- Sasaki's PMs now look forged by comparison.

Where to go from here? I think Csar. Despite his talk about lynching Sasaki from the very beginning, he instead voted for Kage and when it was clear Sasaki would be lynched- he dutifully voted Sasaki. With Disco cleared, I've gotta suspect him.

Vote: Csar

Csargo

10-23-2006, 22:40

GeneralHankerchief

10-24-2006, 00:29

Proletariat

10-24-2006, 00:41

Yeah, no real hard quotes or anything, but I've always gotten the feeling of a townie chatting with Csar in the org chat.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-24-2006, 01:04

Gentlemen, Milady:

I don't think it's possible to read much into Csar's vote on round 2 in either direction. He voted Kage in round #1, along with 8 of us, and voted among 13 pulling the lever for Sasaki in round #2. Since the tenor of the discussion at that point made it pretty clear that Sasaki was doomed, of itself it tells us little. Under those circumstances, a competent Nuova would've voted pretty quickly for Sasaki if Sasaki were Nuova to allay suspicion and the innocent townies were finishing off the paired opponents of the early goings.

I think the 1st round of voting is more instructive. The two individuals who changed their votes to vote for Sasaki while specifically claiming a belief in Kage were the next ones murdered. For a while there, it seemed as though the discussion would swing from lynching Kage to taking out Sasaki. I think that we will probably find that 2 of the mafia (Sasaki and one other)-- and maybe all three -- voted against Kage in that first go-around. It was their only hope to get all three through the first round of voting. Since participation after one's death usually falls off, the hope would have been for Sasaki to parlay survival for himself out of the demise of Kage and his two vocal supporters -- bit of a long shot, but nicely played. If you don't have a lot of chips, you have to go "all-in" and hope for a double-up.

Current Survivors Voting Kagemusha in round #1:

Csar, Destroyer, Proletariat (I), Seamus (D), Silver Rusher (I), Xihaou.

Current Survivors Not Voting or Abstaining in round #1:

Byz-Merc, Leet Erikson, Peasant Phil (I), Reenk Roink, Tiberius, Zalmoxis

Current Survivors Voting Sasaki Kojiro in round #1:

Doc_Bean -- 3rd "active" vote of game, 1st for Sasaki. Also voted Sasaki in round two (quickly).

Xiahou

10-24-2006, 02:57

Don't forget, Xiahou - Csar was the one who engineered Sasaki's downfall. I highly doubt that Csar would risk stringing up his fellow mafioso (according to you) when Sasaki's outcome was still up in the air.
Hmmm, I went back and skimmed the earlier rounds and didn't see anything I'd call "engineering" until post 293- by which point (by my count at least) Sasaki already had a majority vote registered. Am I missing something prior to that?

Yeah, no real hard quotes or anything, but I've always gotten the feeling of a townie chatting with Csar in the org chat.Wouldnt that be the idea?

I'll admit that I don't have anything concrete(what is in this game?)- but to me he's seems more likely than any other to be a mafioso at the moment. If a more likely candidate is revealed I'm more than willing to change my vote- but I'll leave it stand for now since 1 vote isnt going to get him lynched anyhow.

Csargo

10-24-2006, 04:18

Hmmm, I went back and skimmed the earlier rounds and didn't see anything I'd call "engineering" until post 293- by which point (by my count at least) Sasaki already had a majority vote registered. Am I missing something prior to that?
Wouldnt that be the idea?

I'll admit that I don't have anything concrete(what is in this game?)- but to me he's seems more likely than any other to be a mafioso at the moment. If a more likely candidate is revealed I'm more than willing to change my vote- but I'll leave it stand for now since 1 vote isnt going to get him lynched anyhow.

And what did you do atleast I tried to find some evidence what did you do? You just voted for him don't give me that crap. At least I tried you on the other hand did nothing. Kill me if you like but I am innocent and you will be wasting a precious lynch but tell you the truth I hope you lose anyways since no one will listen to me.:wall:

Lord Winter

10-24-2006, 06:33

Personly I think that the mafia would have went with the tide of abstain's that was in the first round to avoid leaving a voting record. Or they could have voted for saskii to pull of suspision. I am not saying there isn't a chance that one of them are mafia but I think your logic isn't fool proof. Renik has abstained every round making it a perfect cover for the mafia like the dico ice fued was last game.

Vote: Renik

Avicenna

10-24-2006, 10:25

Reenx, actually ~;)

doc_bean

10-24-2006, 10:43

Great stuff, Seamus. Worth it even if I do take a dirt nap tonight, I think the townies have the leverage now. Vote: Doc Bean until I hear a decent reason not to.

Well, it seems like the general consensus now is that Sasaki was mafia, I was the first to vote for him (according to Seamus). Even if we assume Kage was mafia, I was also the first one (iirc) that posted in big letters that we should lynch them both just to be sure.

I defended Silver Rusher when he was at risk of being lynched because of his support for Sasaki.

I haven't exactly kept a low profile imho, although some people seem to think so. :huh2:

Personally I will vote: 1337, he's kept awfully quiet in this game, yet has payed enough attention to vote regularly, and he's on the Seamus' suspect list.

Proletariat

10-24-2006, 12:44

Well, it seems like the general consensus now is that Sasaki was mafia, I was the first to vote for him (according to Seamus). Even if we assume Kage was mafia, I was also the first one (iirc) that posted in big letters that we should lynch them both just to be sure.

Yeah, I over looked this yesterday before I hastily posted. Doesn't completely absolve you or anything, but I would like to see Reenk go, just because of his voting record.

Unvote: Doc Bean
Vote: Reenk

Peasant Phill

10-24-2006, 15:14

Who's the man now. (I think I'm going to do some De Niro in front of my mirror now).
Thanks a lot Kommedus now I have 'Eye of the tiger' on repeat in my head. But apart from that great story. It would've been a hero's deatch unlike when I died in an explosion of popcorn. I also must have superhearing. I always thought that tigers, like all cats, have cushions on their paws so you don't hear them comming.

I also like to thank whoever saved me tonight. I have no idea why you chose me but I appreciate it.

Vote: Xihaou
Why? I used the provided list of possibilities and found Xihaou acting like a mafia would. There were others to but I have to chose right.

Reenk Roink

10-24-2006, 15:15

Reenkaxix's qualm about voting is proven true to a great majority of Mafia players...

Anyway, some more boots from the fan club (~:grouphug:) and retaliation voting will now commence.

Vote: Destroyer of Hope (butchered my name, plus Prole is innocent of the crime of being Mafia [though guilty of slander])...

Seamus Fermanagh

10-24-2006, 18:16

Vote: Destroyer
Unvote: Abstain

Reenk, you do make it tempting to lynch you.

Silver Rusher

10-24-2006, 19:21

So you have proven me innocent. I think you should have held on a bit longer before revealing, but what're you going to do?

Anyway, I Vote: Csar for the same reasons I did last time.

Seamus Fermanagh

10-24-2006, 19:42

Csar - 3, Reenk - 3, Destroyer - 2, Tiberius, Xiahou & Leet - 1, Disco & Zalmox yet to vote (though neither has for two goes).

Kommo, how do we handle a tie?

Csargo

10-24-2006, 19:44

Revote probably

Kommodus

10-24-2006, 20:14

I will handle tie votes in the same was as GH - that is, a revote in which the only candidates are the top vote-getters. However, I'm extending voting a bit this time (until I get home from work). This may give the abstainers a little more time to make their voices heard.

discovery1

10-24-2006, 20:18

Vote: Destroyer of Hope

Csargo

10-24-2006, 20:22

Unvote: Tiberius
Vote: Destroyer of Hope

Kommodus

10-25-2006, 02:00

*** Voting Closed ***

Standy by for execution.

Kommodus

10-25-2006, 04:10

Gritting their teeth in anticipation of another grim night, the people of Ogunquit began putting the mayor’s words into practice. The crowd tonight was far removed from the arbitrary, irrational mob that had lynched Kagemusha in the aftermath of the first attacks. No longer reeling from the shock of the severe and unprovoked attacks, they were beginning to systematically piece together their knowledge, eliminating suspects to narrow the field of possibilities.

Despite this, there were many sharp disagreements among the people. When the discussion ended and the time came to cast their ballots, no consensus had been reached. However, when the mayor tallied the votes, one man had a single vote more than his nearest contender.

“People of Ogunquit,” announced the mayor, “by a one-vote margin you have selected Destroyer of Hope as the guilty party.” Turning to his officers, he indicated that they should bring the accused forward.

Destroyer of Hope looked alarmed when his name was read. He glanced left and right, appearing to look for a way out, but the crowd surrounding him would not let him leave. Despite their growing misgivings concerning the practice of execution by popular vote, they still felt it was essential to apply it equally to all, as long as it was necessary.

“This is wrong,” Destroyer of Hope was saying as he struggled with the officers who were dragging him to the front. “You’re making a mistake! Don’t you see? We’re doing as much harm to ourselves as the Cosa Nuova!” He finally reached the podium, where he could look out at the crowd. “How many more innocent people must you kill before you understand?!” he shouted desperately.

His pleas were met with only stony expressions which all said the same thing – the best logic they could muster indicated he was guilty, and therefore he had to die.

“Destroyer of Hope,” the mayor announced in a monotone voice, “you have been accused by your countrymen of serial murder, and of conspiring to bring ruin on the town of Ogunquit. This is your last chance to confess before you are turned over to the final Judge.”

In response, Destroyer of Hope only shook his head sadly.

“So be it,” said the mayor, not wanting to waste any more time. The syringe was already in his hand, and for the third time in as many nights, he administered a lethal dose.

As the crowd again dispersed, two villagers decided to head home together. Leet Eriksson and Zalmoxis, who lived only a few houses away from each other, were engaged in conversation as they walked.

“Not a chance the mafia are going to get me,” Leet told his friend confidently. “From now on I’ll be carrying this at all times.” From a sheath on his back he produced a large, double-bladed axe.

Zalmoxis gazed at the weapon – truly a gorgeous spectacle. The finely-crafted handle was firmly attached to a curved blade that shone in the moonlight, showing off delicate engravings. This was clearly an instrument meant not for hewing wood, but for defense.

“Very impressive,” he said. “May I hold it?” Eriksson acquiesced and handed him the weapon. “It’s so light,” Zalmoxis said, turning it over in his hands. “I wonder how it would feel to swing it…”

Zalmoxis gave the blade a few practice swings; it felt wonderful in his hands. Gripping it lower on the blade, he tried a harder swing – this time in a complete circle. “Oops,” he thought as he felt the axe connect with something, “I hope I didn’t dull the blade.”

He turned around just in time to see Leet Eriksson’s headless body slump to the ground. The head itself had fallen a few feet away.

“Leet? LEET! Are you alright!?” Zalmoxis cried uselessly. “I am so sorry, so sorry… no, no, this can’t be happening…”

He half-dropped, half-flung the axe to the ground and starting running in blind panic. Where was he going? He didn’t know and didn’t care. He just had to get away from the horrific scene! He still couldn’t believe what he had done.

In the dark and not watching where he was going, Zalmoxis suddenly felt his feet hit something. He stumbled forward, lost his balance, and tumbled face-first into a large puddle that was left over from the previous night’s rain.

Unfortunately for Zalmoxis, what he had tripped over was a taught length of rope, the other end of which was attached to a very large hanging bucket of fish. The rope came undone and down came the bucket, dumping hundreds of pounds of freshly-caught fish on his back.

“Mmmblughthutphwumpl!” Zalmoxis cried (or rather tried to cry, as his face was still under water). Terror took him as he realized he couldn’t budge – the fish were simply too heavy. He struggled uselessly for a few more moments, then went limp – drowned in six inches of water.

Votes:

Destroyer of Hope: 4 (Csar, discover1, Reenk Roink, Seamus Fermanagh)

Csar: 3 (Byzantine Mercenary, Silver Rusher, Xiahou)

Reenk Roink: 2 (Destroyer of Hope, Proletariat)

Leet Eriksson: 1 (doc_bean)

Xiahou: 1 (Peasant Phill)

Not Voting: 3 (Tiberius, Leet Eriksson, Zalmoxis)

Status List:

Killed:
Big King Sanctaphrax
GeneralHankerchief
AggonyDuck
ByzantineKnight
Divine Wind
Drisos
Crazed Rabbit
Sir Moody
Glaucus

Executed:
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Cowhead418
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Destroyer of Hope

Suicide:
Orb
King Henry V
Dutch_guy
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Leet Eriksson
Zalmoxis

Still Alive:
Byzantine Mercenary
Csar
discovery1
doc_bean
Peasant Phill
Proletariat
Reenk Roink
Seamus Fermanagh
Silver Rusher
Tiberius
Xiahou