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Fragony
10-14-2006, 15:08
Now something important.

How to make that perfect steak? First of all, it seems to be impossible to order a good steak unless you are either in the netherlands or the good old US of A, the only countries where it is understood that a true steak needs to be 60% raw (yet warm), 20% 'cooked' and and crispy from the outside. Furthermore, the meat needs to be either from Argentina(very very good), or Ireland (best meat ever and ever and ever). Mushrooms are essential, but before you bake them, make sure they have been sucking up delicious sause with garlic/lemon and fresh chivs. Black pepper, and seasalt should of course be added afterwards, and the meat should be baked 2 minutes on each side max, or it will become the sort of thing lesser people eat, a medium steak. The steak should be baked in 80% salted butter, preferably from the scandinavian countries, and 20% olive oil that doesn't need to be of the finest quality per se, but it helps :2thumbsup:

King Henry V
10-14-2006, 15:13
Mmmm, my mum and grandma make excellent steak, in a delicious sauce made with beef goulash stock cubes, tomatoes, mushrooms, onions, garlic and a touch of cream.

Proletariat
10-14-2006, 15:18
Irish beef? Huh. Learn something new everyday... I knew the South Americans do beef alright, but it's really Austrailia or the States where you need to do serious steak.. I'm a bit skeptical about that Irish thing...

No idea if you can get it way out there, Frag, but Kobe beef pwns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_beef

Edit: Oh yeah, take butter, white wine, garlic (lil salt and pepper) and cook some of those baby white mushrooms in a seperate skillet and put them on top of the finished product.

Strike For The South
10-14-2006, 15:32
Get beef from TEXAS and taters from TEXAS and BBQ suace from TEXAS and corn from TEXAS and beer from TEXAS. Then and only then you will have a meal

Fragony
10-14-2006, 15:33
You can get it at the japanese restaurants, but they tend to screw it up with too much oistersause. Japanese screw everything up with too much oistersause, still, it's a sight to behold to see them screw things up with too much oistersause. Always good fun eating japanese.

and beer from TEXAS

Oh noes, monthy python said it all, drinking american beer is like making love in a boat, it's *beep* close to water.

macsen rufus
10-14-2006, 16:15
Nah, the only place to eat steak is in Argentina, straight off the barbeque, blood dribbling down your chin.... Damn, I was vegetarian 15 years til I went to Buenos Aires. I'd also been faithful to my partner for ten years. Man, what a great city :laugh4:

BDC
10-15-2006, 00:56
If it doesn't give you tape worms, it's too heavily cooked.

Kanamori
10-15-2006, 01:15
I like them medium rare with some cooked mushrooms and onions on top. If it is too rare, the texture and blood start to bother me; blood is too rich.

Samurai Waki
10-15-2006, 02:39
Medium Rare with Mushrooms cooked in Butter and Seasoned with Garlic. The best steaks I've had are in the South West, although Montana does a pretty good job. Ironically, Cattle Ranchers don't seem to grasp how to cook a good steak, the best ones I've had are either home cooked, or at a Restraunt, off the Ranch Steaks always seem to be tough and chewy.

Reverend Joe
10-15-2006, 06:10
RARE/RAW MEAT IS GROTESQUE BEYOND BELIEF. IT IS SQUISHY AND DISGUSTING.

I had to say it. As loudly as possible. For me the perfect steak is well done, brown to the center, NO PINK WHATSOEVER. And **** mushrooms. No mushrooms.

Except if they are psilocybin. :jester:

Edit: I just want to expand on my point, because the bourbon is running strong. Eating raw beef is the most horrendous thing anyone can do and is an offense to humanity as a whole. Our ancestors invented fire so we would not die from eating meat. You insult all of us by ignoring this. If you want to eat raw warm beef, you may as well go out and breed a beef-flavored slug and eat it alive. More well-cooked beef for us sane people.

King Henry V
10-15-2006, 08:02
That's strange, considering you were called meatwad before.:juggle2:

Quid
10-15-2006, 08:34
RARE/RAW MEAT IS GROTESQUE BEYOND BELIEF. IT IS SQUISHY AND DISGUSTING.

I had to say it. As loudly as possible. For me the perfect steak is well done, brown to the center, NO PINK WHATSOEVER. And **** mushrooms. No mushrooms.

Except if they are psilocybin. :jester:

Edit: I just want to expand on my point, because the bourbon is running strong. Eating raw beef is the most horrendous thing anyone can do and is an offense to humanity as a whole. Our ancestors invented fire so we would not die from eating meat. You insult all of us by ignoring this. If you want to eat raw warm beef, you may as well go out and breed a beef-flavored slug and eat it alive. More well-cooked beef for us sane people.

I wouldn't have put it in such strong terms but I wholly agree with Zorba here. I like my steak well done, yet still tender. Hence I usually buy (or order) a filet steak.

The very best steak I have tasted is indeed from Kobe (whilst travelling Japan). I couldn't get enough of it so I ended up mostly eating Kobe beef in all kinds of variations almost everywhere I went.

Funnily enough, though, here in my home city, the best steak I have had is from a Fondue restaurant. The cook probably learned to make proper steak when over in the Americas...

Quid

doc_bean
10-15-2006, 08:59
Now something important.

How to make that perfect steak? First of all, it seems to be impossible to order a good steak unless you are either in the netherlands or the good old US of A, the only countries where it is understood that a true steak needs to be 60% raw (yet warm), 20% 'cooked' and and crispy from the outside. Furthermore, the meat needs to be either from Argentina(very very good), or Ireland (best meat ever and ever and ever). Mushrooms are essential, but before you bake them, make sure they have been sucking up delicious sause with garlic/lemon and fresh chivs. Black pepper, and seasalt should of course be added afterwards, and the meat should be baked 2 minutes on each side max, or it will become the sort of thing lesser people eat, a medium steak. The steak should be baked in 80% salted butter, preferably from the scandinavian countries, and 20% olive oil that doesn't need to be of the finest quality per se, but it helps :2thumbsup:

The general rule of baking steak is 1 minute per cm (1/2.6 inch for those who haven't discovered the metric system) per side, turn the fire up before you put in the steak in so it scorches a bit and turn it down when the steak is in. My mom often wraps steak in aluminum foil for a while after it's baked so the warmth spreads to the center without making the steak all chewy, the result is usually very good :2thumbsup:

Also putting (garlic) butter on the steak (on top after you've turned it) and letting it melt is delicious ! (We need a drooling smiley !)

DemonArchangel
10-16-2006, 02:46
Seared on the outside, bloody on the inside, with soy sauce and rice vinegar on the side.

Reverend Joe
10-16-2006, 03:49
That's strange, considering you were called meatwad before.:juggle2:
Meatwad is a character in a frighteningly surreal cartoon (that is also funny as hell.) I would not want to eat Meatwad.

(Not least because he rolls around everywhere and he is full of hair and dirt. But also because he is made of raw meat.)

Ice
10-16-2006, 03:55
I enjoy my steak cooked medium. I'm not hard to please.

AntiochusIII
10-16-2006, 04:35
Meatwad is a character in a frighteningly surreal cartoon (that is also funny as hell.) I would not want to eat Meatwad.

(Not least because he rolls around everywhere and he is full of hair and dirt. But also because he is made of raw meat.)...

You're the first person I've ever read that says ATHF is surreal. I'd call it dada if I have to call it anything. :book:

I don't like meadwad, though; too dumb, takes a kids' role. It has to be Frylock. You can't beat French fries with lighting eyes and beards.

Now, on topic: I like my steak cooked well enough, but not so much it's tough. And I love mushrooms to death. Mushrooms = yum. Kobe steak is God's gift to man, though I'm fine with any.

Papewaio
10-16-2006, 04:45
Australian or New Zealand steak.

I like medium rare... brown on the outside with black seared grill marks (if thick enough it should be crosshatched for visual pleasure), red but with a grain showing on the inside and slightly bloody... viscosity of water but with a nice red claret.

Condiments should not be required only added for variety and to enhance the flavour.

I love being able to eat a steak with just a fork... something that is so soft and juicy the ony thing lighter is fairy floss.

As for the amount of time on the grill... that is highly dependent on the cut used... thickness \, any bone (T-bone) and fat content being the things to consider.

Somebody Else
10-16-2006, 11:09
I like it to moo when I stick my fork in.

Peasant Phill
10-16-2006, 11:54
Now something important.

How to make that perfect steak? First of all, it seems to be impossible to order a good steak unless you are either in the netherlands or the good old US of A.

That's a first. Saying that the Netherlands are the best for cooking something. That from a country where they mix Frech (Belgian) fries with peanut butter.

yesdachi
10-16-2006, 14:41
At a restaurant I order my steak medium, hoping that it is just close to not being over or under cooked, I am soooo not sending it back. :sweatdrop:

At home I like it a good medium rare to medium depending on the cut (I am a total carnivore and will eat practically any meat from brats to filet). On my grill (and most others I have used) 2 minutes per turn (4 turns total, 2 on each side) will create a perfect steak. I like mine with “Montreal Seasoning” and no sauce but maybe some mushrooms or corn.


Meat shouldn’t be baked unless it is a Wellington or perhaps a “pig in a blanket” ~D.

Fragony
10-17-2006, 07:51
That's a first. Saying that the Netherlands are the best for cooking something. That from a country where they mix Frech (Belgian) fries with peanut butter.

That is indonesian satesause you heathen, it's beautiful. And our fries are french nor Belgium, french fries are very thin and belgium frites very thick. Here we eat dutch fries.

And good steak.

Peasant Phill
10-17-2006, 09:20
That is indonesian satesause you heathen, it's beautiful. And our fries are french nor Belgium, french fries are very thin and belgium frites very thick. Here we eat dutch fries.

And good steak.

Apparently I stand corrected. I never had the heart to try it. But it is made out of peanuts?

Fragony
10-17-2006, 09:29
Apparently I stand corrected. I never had the heart to try it. But it is made out of peanuts?

Indeed, but it doesn't taste like it, it's very good. I am a bit surprised, you don't know sate in Belgium? It's very common here, maybe because Indonesia was a dutch colony?

http://www.tastingmenu.com/media/2004/20040326-purimas/images/13-sate%20ayam.jpg

Andres
10-17-2006, 09:38
Ordering a "medium" steak... Barbarians!

"Bleu", "saignant", "à point" and "bien cuit" are the proper terms.

Ronin
10-17-2006, 11:17
getting the perfect steak is a simple matter...

you simply go to your local airport and buy a ticket to Lisbon, Portugal,

when you get here you hail down a cab and tell the fellow you want to go to the " cervejaria Portugalia" beer house, once you get there you ask for their special house stake with a fried egg over-easy and french fries.

It´s served in a pot dish and absolutely swimming in the house´s special sauce
:2thumbsup:

....be prepared to go on a diet for the next few days.....you´re gonna need it to get over the cholesterol intake :laugh4:

Reverend Joe
10-17-2006, 14:27
Ordering a "medium" steak... Barbarians!

"Bleu", "saignant", "à point" and "bien cuit" are the proper terms.
ME WANT NOT RAW STEAK!!! :viking:

:laugh4:

Big King Sanctaphrax
10-17-2006, 15:30
That is indonesian satesause you heathen, it's beautiful. And our fries are french nor Belgium, french fries are very thin and belgium frites very thick. Here we eat dutch fries.

And good steak.

Haha, I've never heard Satay called peanut butter before.

Andres
10-17-2006, 15:35
Nothing beats a filet pur avec sauce aux deux poivres, saignant bien sûr.

Satésaus on a steak :wall: Damn Dutch!

Fragony
10-17-2006, 15:55
Satésaus on a steak :wall: Damn Dutch!

Whoever does that should be euthanised without a second opinion, we put it on fries.

patatje oorlog, satesause + mayonaise. But someone thought such a name could lead to social tensions so know we have to call it patatje pret :laugh4:

no that is not a joke.

Andres
10-17-2006, 16:02
Whoever does that should be euthanised without a second opinion, we put it on fries.

And then you serve those ruined fries with a nice, tastefull steak???

:no:

Reporter: Mister TheCunning, how was your trip to the Netherlands?
TheCunning: Well, at first, it looked very nice and civilised. Then I entered this... Restaurant!
Reporter: A restaurant? In the Netherlands? Who would have thought that?
TheCunning: Exactly. So I ordered a nice steak and I got it served with fries.
Reporter: Sounds very good. You sure you went to the Netherlands?
TheCunning: And then they put satésaus and mayonnaise on those fries!
Reporter: :scared: :scared: WHAT???? Satésaus and mayonaise on fries served with a nice, saignant steak?
TheCunning: Indeed. Belgian authorities already offered me professional therapy. I'll need 4 psychologists and 500 sessions to overcome this trauma.
Reporter: Poor guy.

Fragony
10-17-2006, 16:18
And then you serve those ruined fries with a nice, tastefull steak???

Fries with a steak? No sir. With steak 'aardappeltjes in de schil met rosemarijn' should be served, and a salad with 'rucola en geroosterde pijnboompittjes' :2thumbsup:

Andres
10-17-2006, 16:26
Fries with a steak isn't that bad. It's called "Biefstuk frites", a typical belgian dish.

Notice the Dutch word "Biefstuk" and the French "frites". Now that's what I call BELGIAN.

Fragony
10-17-2006, 16:42
Notice the Dutch word "Biefstuk" and the French "frites". Now that's what I call BELGIAN.

Das waar, goed waar was ik ook alweer ~;)