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Derfasciti
10-25-2006, 21:07
Hey guys,


I'm doing Holocaust class right now. Currently, I have to look for a biography of a notable Israeli person. But I'm out of real ideas. I'd prefer to read about military/political figures if at all possible.

Can some of you give me a few people who you think have biographies on them, and what they are famous for? Then I can go look to see if they have any books for them at my library.

Any help will be appreciated.

Stig
10-25-2006, 21:11
Do you need Jews, or specified to Israeli?

If the last one, go for this one:
David Ben-Gurion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion)

Randarkmaan
10-25-2006, 21:24
You said you'd prefer a military (or political) person this is a pretty "entertaining" person...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvika_Greengold


By the end of the first day of battle, the Syrians (who at the start outnumbered the Israelis in the Golan 9 to 1) had achieved moderate success. Towards the end of the day, "A Syrian tank brigade passing through the Rafid Gap turned northwest up a little-used route known as the Tapline Road, which cut diagonally across the Golan. This roadway would prove one of the main strategic hinges of the battle. It led straight from the main Syrian breakthrough points to Nafah, which was not only the location of Israeli divisional headquarters but the most important crossroads on the Heights."[21] During the night, Lieutenant Zvika Greengold, who had just arrived to the battle unattached to any unit, fought them off with his single tank until help arrived. "For the next 20 hours, Zvika Force, as he came to be known on the radio net, fought running battles with Syrian tanks—sometimes alone, sometimes as part of a larger unit, changing tanks half a dozen times as they were knocked out. He was wounded and burned but stayed in action and repeatedly showed up at critical moments from an unexpected direction to change the course of a skirmish."[21] For his actions, Zvika became a national hero in Israel.



Oh... but I don't know if there is a biography for him...

Derfasciti
10-25-2006, 22:34
I believe it is supposed to be famous Jews in general. I don't know why I specified Israelites now that I think about it. However, Israeli history is something I think I'd like to learn a little bit about, so famous israelis is what I will try to focus my search on.

IrishArmenian
10-25-2006, 23:26
I don't know her name, but Shakepeare's mistress was a Black Venetian jew.
You could look at the whole Old Testament.
Ben Harper, the musician
Mick Jones of the Clash

Tribesman
10-26-2006, 01:31
If its holocaust class , why not do Simon Weisenthal .:yes:

IrishArmenian
10-26-2006, 02:18
Of course, the obvious Ellie Weisel should be completed.

Stig
10-26-2006, 10:30
Or Anna Frank, pretty famous diary she has

Grey_Fox
10-26-2006, 10:55
Moshe Dayan maybe?

Israel has a big thing for war heroes. Most of their Prime Ministers are, like Ariel Sharon, Ehud Barak etc.

Petrus
10-26-2006, 12:53
Albert Cohen.

Although he was not israeli himself, he was one of the promoters of the creation of israel but also one of the greatest writers that have existed.

Fragony
10-26-2006, 13:06
I believe he now lives in New York, but I recommend Alexander Kimel. Survivor from Warsaw that fought in the uprising.

He has a weblog as well, with lots of information.

http://www.kimel.net/index.html#top

Duke Malcolm
10-26-2006, 17:50
Sacha Baron Cohen is a jew...

Benjamin Disraeli was racially a jew...

Kralizec
10-26-2006, 21:25
Einstein was jewish, and so were Oppenheimer and Teller. The latter two were scientists who were very important for the US' nuclear weapons program (don't believe that either were religious, though)

Theodore Herzl, who's considered the founder of political zionism.

Sacha Baron Cohen :laugh4: A.K.A. Ali G and Borat

The Stranger
10-26-2006, 22:55
Kyle from southpark :P

LeftEyeNine
10-27-2006, 02:01
I think Samson would be the most suitable Israeli figure to give as a name in such a forum. A migthy quasi-legendary hero who was said to have his enormous power owing to his long hair. Look him up around. Good luck. ~:)

(Israelis call him Şimşon)

Spino
10-27-2006, 15:34
Jesus
Moses
Abraham
John the Baptist
Peter
Paul
Mary
The Mommas and the Poppas







:oops: :hide:

KrooK
10-28-2006, 00:33
Maybe Golda Meyer, Melchior Anielewicz, Marek Edelman

Craterus
10-28-2006, 00:45
Yasser Arafat ~;)

Derfasciti
10-31-2006, 02:30
Well I found a book on Ariel Sharon. I guess this is my best bet. Ah well, off to read a book I don't feel like reading really:whip:

The Wizard
10-31-2006, 22:06
The Judges Gideon, Sarah, Barak and Shimshon. Kings Dawid and Salomoh.

... But these are all historical, even mythological figures. Real Israeli figures? Dawid Ben Gurion, Ze'ev Yabotinsky, Ariel Sharon, Moshe Dayan, Yonatan Netanyahu, Benyamin Netanyahu... the list goes on.

Stig
11-01-2006, 00:03
Sharon is interesting imo
He first was anti-palistinian, but was sort of converted. And now he is still in his coma.

Kraxis
11-01-2006, 03:40
Ok, there is a need for a classification here.

Jew (selfexplainatory I think), Israeli (citizen of the state of Israel), Israelite (member of the 12 tribes of the ancient Israeli kingdoms).

So if we are dealing with Holocaust, then it is Jews on a whole. If it is Holocaust victims who then proceeded to become Israeli personas, then it is of course both Jews and Israelis. But if it basically anything connected with Israel, be it young or old, then just take your pick.

Mooks
11-01-2006, 04:08
All of you forgot about the greatest Jew of them all....

Jesus :D

(Or moses)

Spino
11-02-2006, 17:42
All of you forgot about the greatest Jew of them all....

Jesus :D

(Or moses)

:inquisitive: Hey now! Jesus & Moses were at the top of my list!

You kids and your ADD...

Avicenna
11-06-2006, 15:31
Leon Trotsky

Plus a whole bunch of Jewish scientists on either side in the Cold War.
Was Marx Jewish? EDIT: nope, don't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews

Kralizec
11-06-2006, 18:24
I thought that he was of jewish descent (but unreligious), wich is part of why the Nazis called communism a jewish conspiracy.

The Wizard
11-07-2006, 22:00
Yep, Marx was a Jew. Just like quite a lot of the Bolshevik (and Menshevik) revolutionaries. Jews first, Georgians later, and Russians all the time... ~D

Avicenna
11-09-2006, 16:49
Really? I'll keep that in mind. Strange that Wiki doesn't say that, they tend to mention jewish descent in their articles.

The Wizard
11-09-2006, 17:19
Yep, Trotsky (naturally), Kamenev (his mother wasn't Jewish, though), Zinoviev, Sverdlov (likely ordered Nicholas II's death), Uritsky (first head of the Cheka), Sokolnikov (created the U.S.S.R.'s first stable currency), Genrikh Yagoda (yet another Cheka peep), and later Kaganovich (a homie of Stalin's).

But, overall, the highest percentage they ever formed was around 6-10% in the Bolshevik Party (the so-called "Old Guard") and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Jewish communism, indeed... :sweatdrop:

Kraxis
11-09-2006, 18:42
Rosa Luxemburg, one of the leaders of the revolution in Germany was also a jew. And I seem to remember that there were a few more jews among the leadership back then.

There are some who believe that it was the communist revolution in Germany that led to Hitler's hatred for the jews, for as he saw it (through the eyes of a Freikorpsman) communist = jew.
I don't know if that was the case...

But there were a surprising number of jews in the most visible leadership. In total they might not have been too many.

The Wizard
11-11-2006, 20:32
As far as the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was concerned (as well as its predecessor, the Bolshevik Party), Jews were a minority.

They were well-represented in the higher echelons initially, true, and socialism and the way of the narodnik may have been an appealing alternative to Zionism for the average Jew in Russia, but they were quite the minority within Party ranks.

Russians formed the majority -- 60% in 1917, IIRC -- and that only increased as time passed.