Best MTW/VI MP Game Ever??

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hey,

I like to know what was your best MP game here on MTW and or/VI??

I would say, Me Playing Magyar Khan from Grey Wolves Twice were the best two I ever fought on MTW.Generally, I thought they were the best games I ever played (besides a 1v1 on RTW against Robert from AOE and 3v3 against Grey Wolves)


and your games?? :egypt: :egypt:

[Tomisama]

My best game in MTW/VI was the one where I got the highest kill score I have ever seen*. But it really wasn’t the score that made this the greatest game for me (to prove that I won’t even tell you what it was). It was the teamwork that we flawlessly bought to bear against our opponents. Two weeks of intense practice developing our killing machine, and it paid off in this awesome battle.

Alas, I believe all that were there that day are gone on to other things. But if you think you were and remember the score, please PM me, and I will confirm :wink:

*Have heard of more, and did see more in one STW 4v4 years earlier.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Cool Tomi. Had Similar games like yours, Mabye not the High Kills, but Good Teamwork..

I remember, I was on the 1.0/2.0 server,unpatched server,at the time, and I played a 3v3 with my buds on VI. I was in the middle of the steppe map,thank god, since I hate moving alot.. My friend on the right flank, Joey, told us and Gregiors how to form, and we did, and we Held good. The Teamwork like that was Amazing. And I'm Sad to Say, I never had a game like that ever since. Not Even with my Clan I haven't ( :-( ) . To bad I don't got replay of it.

[Puzz3D]

An impressive MTW v1.1 multiplayer game I was in was a 4v4 where LadyAnn, using the Turk faction, took out all 4 veteran enemy generals. The replay is posted and is called Irresistable (http://www.mizus.com/hosted/Yuuki/irresistable.zip).

Irresistable.txt
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LadyAn is simply irresistable in this MTW battle from Dec 6, 2002 as she sweeps the battlefield from her left flank position. In a tour de force that has to be seen to be believed, she routs AMP's Spanish cavalry, Elmo's range heavy Almohads, AngelofBlood's Byzantines and finally puts the finishing touch on Demon's Germans. Watch closely and you will see LadyAn dispatch all four enemy generals killing two and routing the other two. She finishes the battle with far and away the highest kills and best kill ratio of 1135/577. A very consistent, skilled, fearless and honorable player, you would have to rank LadyAn amoung the best playing the game today.
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Another good MTW v1.1 teamgame featuring LadyAnn's skillfull play is posted as La Pucelle (http://www.mizus.com/hosted/Yuuki/lapucelle.zip).

La Pucelle.txt
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Here is a replay of a 4v4 battle from Nov 24, 2002 with LadyAn, MizuKokami, KingKong, and MizuYuuki attacking a hilly map vs KenchiBaz, KenchiVengence, AngelofDeath and AMP. We each have 15K florins.

LadyAn (Annie) is a 17 year old French girl and plays the French faction in this battle. She is all over the battlefield in this game helping and saving the rout of the impromtu offensive in the center by KingKong, breaking KenchBaz on the right with a cavalry thrust at a critical moment, capturing AngelofDeath's general and breaking his men's spirit as he tried to take advantage of our disarray on the right, helping the defense on the left with MizuKokami by stopping KenchiVengence's flanking attempt on our extreme left, stemming the tide of the massive rout we suffered in the final assault on AMP's fortified position, her storming and taking the English stronghold and personally capturing the English AMP herself giving us the final victory. Her roaming of the battlefield in a support capacity is made possible by AMP's camping strategy at the back of the map, and perhaps makes this battle follow a different path than most do. He commented at the end of the battle that he thought he was going to win. I think it's a truely all around, remarkable performance buy one of the nicest people playing the game today.

The only messaging we did in this battle was for me to accept an offer of cavalry assistance from LadyAn at the beginning of the battle after I suggested a right side offensive action. I told her to move them to center, but unknown to me she also sent some infantry to the right. And, a few messages I sent to KingKong advising him to stay back from AMP until we were ready for the final assault. He didn't heed that advice and lost all his arbs. KingKong was impatient to make the final assault, and the attack was not well timed. I gave the order for the final attack which failed, but was saved by LadyAn and allowed us to rally some units. It made me think of the way St. Joan rallied the demoralised French during the attack on Les Tourelles for one last assault which proved successful. When I look at the replay now, I see that her French forces alone are the ones that took the hill.

I would credit LadyAn with saving us from defeat twice in this battle. The routing of KingKong by AngelofDeath could easily have swept me away and left us with a lost game if LadyAn hadn't been there to rally him. The initial failure of the final assault by three of us looked like final defeat until LadyAn shut down AMP's chasers on all three fronts and counterattacked.

I think the battle earns the title "La Pucelle" , although, maybe I'm being sacreligeous in using St. Joan's title. I apologize for not checking with Annie first concerning the title, but I find the battle inspirational. If you have never read about Jehanne Darc, I would recommend it. I found the account of her life given here very moving:
http://www.litrix.com/joan/joan001.htm
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You have to use MTW v1.1 to get correct playback these replays.

[Kalle]

LadyAn (Annie) is a 17 year old French girl

Annie in the Freedom Fighters???

Kalle

[Puzz3D]

Annie in the Freedom Fighters???
Yes. She's sort of French. ~:)

[Kalle]

:clown:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

yea, I plan on making a return to MTW (Mabye tomarrow or on the weekend or so :-) )

Nice Battle.

I don't think,sadly, I have my old MTW replays (mabye I do :-) ), but I know I still have the Magyar Replay, I hope to god I do, so if I do, I'll also post it here. :)

[Kalle]

A very consistent, skilled, fearless and honorable player, you would have to rank LadyAn amoung the best playing the game today.


I cant help myself but to comment on this since Annie herself is choosing no to.

I do agree there is probably nothing wrong with Annies skills but it is also true that she would have to struggle very hard to get a spot in a top FF 4 player team, my choice would be manticore, almircar, alien and myself (back when we were ffers that is) and in the early stage of the clan unicorn and gryphon would be 2 others that would prolly have had spots in a 4 player ff team, so if she was one of the very best then FF would take most top spots in any ranking of topplayers :2thumbsup:

The battles you mention were played before FF mtw-division was formed though (if my memory is not completly off track) and that early she might indeed have been one of the very best, I would not rank her one of the best playing the game today though since I cant recall when I last saw her in the MTW lobby. The only ffer I see there is Jack Russel.

Kalle

[Tomisama]

As this has turned into a praise Annie thread, I think it will do no harm to add my salute to LadyAn.

She is also a great programmer, having created to absolute best Medieval logfile reader ever. And on top of that, modifying her creation on request, to help promote a special Clan Wars Competition. No Annie, I haven’t forgotten :wink:

But back to her skill on the battlefield. LadyAn brings unique talents to the game. One of which comes immediately to mind. Now she is not the only one to employ her army in this way, but in my observation she is one of the best, if not the best in doing so.

She can be all over the field at one time, or at least appear so. Like a ghost, smaller groups of units infiltrate and come out of nowhere. And using this divisional strategy she can also be in support to all of her team members at the same time, or again, at least appear so. The results are both awesome and terrible to behold, depending on which side you are on :smile:

LadyAn has been on VI recently, playing under the name Jade :bow:

And I have seen her posting on the MTWII forums, so beware…

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

With all my talks with other old players,I never Met LadyAn before, be a pleased to do so :). Under the Name Jade? I got my MTW/Vi Fix, got my Magyar Replay (now I can review it to improve myself,thank god). I'll look for her around then :)


Sepcial CWC? What's the Surpise Tomi :-)?


Anyhow,

I played MagyarKhan in Setember. 2 of the Best games I played. Second game I like more then the first. it was 25K, Steppe, as he didn't want to do castle. So after telling him what it means to be "Undeafted in Castles since I came back in march" since he didn't understand, we pick our armies and went ahead.


I was Swiss, Yes, Swiss. 8 Aroumdned Pikemen, 4 CMAA and 4 Normal Swiss Pikemen. He got this Funky Mongol Army, and I wish I would have save this replay aslo.

Well, He eneded up killing my swiss army. got like 300+ kills, He had almost 1000 or so.

[Kalle]

Im a bit surprised Magyar agreed to play you on such a high florinlevel. Im also surprised that if you are that good, undefeated and everything since march, that you could not win with what must be a very good antimongol faction (swiss). Of course when not getting any pavise and have no cav you are doomed vs Magyar, I can only imagine the smile on his face when he saw your cumbersome army with no missile and no cav. Did he have all cav and even all horsearcher army? You should of course not feel bad about loosing to him though as he is one of the truly great generals of this game.

Kalle

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

undefeated in Sieges,that is :)

We fought twice m8. First game was 10-15K, don't remember offhand, but around 10-15K,normal money. it was good game,got replay of it. Second game was the Swiss one. Yes He had Alot of HA and some Heavy Melee Cav. I did all of my damage when he did a mass charge on some of my units, and I rushed my tired army back, almost won, but my guys were tried, so they routed.

Yeah m8, he was proably laughing his head off. He even told me "it sucks" when I asked him how it was.

I don't feel bad to losing to hin, I feel honored to play him, and I learned some stuff I'll use in future battles..

[Puzz3D]

The battles you mention were played before FF mtw-division was formed though (if my memory is not completly off track) and that early she might indeed have been one of the very best, I would not rank her one of the best playing the game today though since I cant recall when I last saw her in the MTW lobby.
I wrote that in Dec, 2002.

[Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe]

I cant help myself but to comment on this since Annie herself is choosing no to.

I do agree there is probably nothing wrong with Annies skills but it is also true that she would have to struggle very hard to get a spot in a top FF 4 player team, my choice would be manticore, almircar, alien and myself (back when we were ffers that is) and in the early stage of the clan unicorn and gryphon would be 2 others that would prolly have had spots in a 4 player ff team, so if she was one of the very best then FF would take most top spots in any ranking of topplayers :2thumbsup:

The battles you mention were played before FF mtw-division was formed though (if my memory is not completly off track) and that early she might indeed have been one of the very best, I would not rank her one of the best playing the game today though since I cant recall when I last saw her in the MTW lobby. The only ffer I see there is Jack Russel.

Kalle

That's pretty disgraceful...

As far as ranking FFer go, there is no doubt about the top 3, although you missed one of them, so I guess maybe there is :dizzy2: : Alien, Almircar, Crandaeolon...
Cranda only won 2 1v1 tournaments and was probably the best competitor in MTW/VI, he sure deserves a place in the FF top 4!
For the 4th spot, my choice would change depending on era, what kind of factions and so on.
Anyway, that's pretty low, and I don't even like to discuss that kind of stuff. :no:


As far as the best MTW/VI MP games I've ever played, I got many fun memories, thanks to many great players I played against back then, they know who they are.
When looking at scoring, my personal funniest was a game where Ichi scored 0 loss/ 0 kill :clown: And I was in his team :wall: but we won :dizzy2: However the game itself was not great quality.
My best 1v1 game was a defeat against froggy, we almost stretch through the whole map :inquisitive:
My best 2v2 game was a tournament game vs Marechaux teaming with LadyAnn; it was a heavy winter storm, with no visibility, still we were able to coordinate well, and I am not sure they ever figured out what hurt them: Annie ghost troup came out of the fog to kill one, whereas I split my army, some decoy troops of mine were keeping one of them busy, and the other was assisting Annie.
I remember teaming up with Tinkerbell and a beginner in a 3v3 vs TW: the beginner was in the middle, quite busy routing, but Tinkerbell impressive move helped us to double one of the TW on the right flank whereas we were basically 2v3, then we doubled another one, rested a bit and finished that game well; kudos for Tinkerbell high spirit on that one, and taking some very drastic decision that saved the day (basically crossing the whole map for a double; I think TW was in disbilief; they went 2v1 versus the beginner, but that was not needed, one of them followed the beginner too far, so it was easy routing their separated army).
4v4; I played many of them, and many of them were very good ones... 4v4 vs wolves, mizus or celtiberos were often very good games, I'd be hard pressed to pick just one. 4v4 were the best game of all...

Louis,

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

3v3 with Wolves, Very tough

I had two 1v1's with Puzz3s (Yuurki,am I right Puzz) from Mizu yesterday on the Sam Wars and pretty good Games. I lost both, but Even Still. I had 400-550 kills each game, and I was able to do a bit of damage to his armies in each game, routing some of his guys.

[R'as al Ghul]

I came to MP pretty late. I had my first MP game in early 2004 on STW.
That was when Tosa still ran the fakeserver.
I've played such players as Kansuke, Mimesaka, ShinGaijin or Togakure at the time.
There were also a lot of other good players. :bow:

My first VI MP game was a 4v4. I remember that Vanya and Swoosh where also in the game, along with some other "big" names of MP. They had no problems to allow a complete newb into their game. I took the Turks, my favorite faction, which was my doom. At the time the playing style of pavise shootout had established, which I had no experience with, and I also knew nothing about positioning on the map. I think I had the forward flanking spot and got rushed immediately. Only a few of my units survived that. With what remained I was able to take Vanya's general's head though (some light cav), iirc. :laugh4:
I remember that I enjoyed the experience to play human opponents but I also was frustrated that not all factions were equally competitive. The game is clearly in favour of European factions. I've tried VI MP a couple of times again, also played the community mod which sadly never got that much support from the community, but soon went back to STW online for a couple of months.
Then I joined the Samurai Warlords team and started playing online regularly. The games I've had since then are easily the best games I've ever played online. That's because of the little but excellent and friendly crowd of players and because of the balanced gameplay.

For me, the experience of playing together with nice people is worth more than winning any competition. That's not to say that I don't play to win but I always consider my losses as great lessons.

Thanks to everybody for all the great games so far.

R'as

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Agreed Ras. The 2 Sam Wars games I did Play with Puzz were excellent, and I am glad I was able to play them :) :)

[Kalle]

I wrote that in Dec, 2002.

Aha :2thumbsup:

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That's pretty disgraceful...

As far as ranking FFer go, there is no doubt about the top 3, although you missed one of them, so I guess maybe there is : Alien, Almircar, Crandaeolon...
Cranda only won 2 1v1 tournaments and was probably the best competitor in MTW/VI, he sure deserves a place in the FF top 4!
For the 4th spot, my choice would change depending on era, what kind of factions and so on.
Anyway, that's pretty low, and I don't even like to discuss that kind of stuff.


I dont know what exactly I did that was disgraceful to you this time. My opinion on Annie is in the open for everyone to see and has been for many years, let me quote myself from the FF-book of names:


Annie, sweet sweet Annie

Annie is avery important member to the clan and community as a whole.

Her logfilereader has helped analyse many battles and there is a link to it from the net. Her dedication to the clan and the clanforums is matched by few, allways making things happen and coming up with ideas. Also she knows her way around the field of battle very well and is adapt in using both light and heavy armies. She has also helped numerous new players in their steps towards becoming good generals.

FF Kalle


Nothing I said in this topic contradicts this. Please pinpoint what was such a disgrace that I said. Or please do not. I have no intention or interest to continue a 4 year old bickering with you into the next totalwar game. If the disgrace was the team I mentioned, well Im sorry, you will have to live with that because I stand firm to that opinion in spite of the "facts" that you post. Since you say you dont like this discussion then lets just let it die here and now.

Kalle

[Puzz3D]

Nothing I said in this topic contradicts this. Please pinpoint what was such a disgrace that I said.
If Annie started playing less because she got muscled out by these "better" players that got into FF then the whole community lost out. MTW was best in the early days when players hadn't figured out how to buy the "best" unit + upgrade combinations. Once that happened it was pretty much all cav/sword power armies or pumped ranged units which were also power armies. Eventually MTW became dull with the same armies and limited tactics used all the time. Maybe she lost interest because of that.

I never lost a 2v2 with Annie as an ally in STW or early MTW and all the battles were fun because we experimented with new ideas. The two replays I posted show her play to be brilliant in early MTW. In the Irresistable battle, AMP had Spanish Lancers which were the most powerful cavalry and Elmark had pumped hangunners which were the most powerful melee infantry, and they both were defeated by Annie using the Turks. She eliminated all 4 enemy generals in that game, and you'll notice that our center player, GlassHeart (Polar), never advanced to engage leaving a very strong, almost untouched Byzantine faction to be overcome, and after that going over and routing the German faction general under Demon Kantamore (the same Demon that was such a thorn in everyone side during STW). In the La Pucelle battle, she provides timely support across the entire battlefield in a way that I've never seen anyone else come close to doing, and then finished off AMP who never lost using that camping style in STW team games that you see him use in this battle. Her units stop moving 3/4 of the way though this battle because she was afk for about 10 minutes. We knew this, but King Kong was impetuous and wouldn't delay his attack on AMP. She came back and saved that game.

Crandaleon was probably the best 1v1 player in early FF. It interesting that he lost interest in MTW very quickly. I played some team games with him. Annie was a better ally for me. Team games are not just a question of how good each player is individually, but also a question of how well the allies work together.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Sounds like Anne was a very execellent player back in the old Days. I know That Tatics and pumped up armies ruin things, since I seen it happen on RTW sadly..

[Kalle]

If Annie started playing less because she got muscled out by these "better" players that got into FF...

:juggle2:


Eventually MTW became dull with the same armies and limited tactics used all the time. Maybe she lost interest because of that.

Maybe she did I dont know. I dont think she really stopped playing until she had givven rtw a chance though. At least she was as much active as anyone else in the clan as long as I was in the clan (with the occasional brake).


Crandaleon was probably the best 1v1 player in early FF.

Cranda was not in early FF. Best player, team or 1 on1 was Gryphon in early FF.


Team games are not just a question of how good each player is individually, but also a question of how well the allies work together.

Exactly.

Kalle

[Puzz3D]

Exactly.
It's detrimental to a clan to develop exclusive teams.

[Kalle]

It's detrimental to a clan to develop exclusive teams.

Maybe, I dont know, I never was in a clan that did that. Were you?

Kalle

[Puzz3D]

Maybe, I dont know, I never was in a clan that did that. Were you?
You said Annie had to struggle to get on a top team in FF. In my clan, everyone who wants to participate is included no matter what the event.

[Kalle]

You said Annie had to struggle to get on a top team in FF. In my clan, everyone who wants to participate is included no matter what the event.

That is not what I said. I said:


she would have to struggle very hard to get a spot in a top FF 4 player team

Notice the word WOULD.

I dont think we ever topped teams for tournaments and if we did others, as shown by Louis post, would have other topteams then the one I think would have been the strongest.

No one had to struggle to get into any FF-team. As long as I was in the clan everyone were encouraged to take part in tournaments (am not implying I was the most encouraging one, in fact it was often Annie, that alone is proof she wasnt bullied around as you seem to think she was). I dont know how it is nowadays. You can go check the old cwb-forums or cwc-forums if you like, we used as many players as possible and most often in diffrent constalations allthough me and Almir often were in the same team... oops maybe that makes us bullies...

Kalle

[KrooK]

4 vs 4 When I got about 1400 - 1600 fraqs.
Enemies rushed my allies and suddenly I was over them.
So I destroyed one, then second. When 3th and 4th turn formation to attack me, my allies managed to regroup and then we charged them from 2 sides.

Ah and of course I loved 4vs4 on hillyinland maps.
Best and hardest games I have ever seen.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

That is what I called, Team Work Krook, Have TeamWork and sometimes Luck in Worse Case Scenricos, then you guys will win :)