View Full Version : EB v0.8.6.7.5.3.0.9 Release Date
Krusader
10-28-2006, 11:35
Dear EB fans,
One of the dilemmas that face mod teams is the never-ending question of when to release? Today, we would like your help in answering this question.
To date we have completely redone our building and recruitment systems, so the past months have been filled with a great deal of frustration, but are now paying off for us as we see it all come together. What this means for you though is that as we put together 0.8 we have not yet had time for in-depth testing. There will be gaps, but we do have a working mod on the RTW 1.5 platform and there is a good amount of new content along with this.
So, the question is - do we give you a working version next month? If we do, we have a greater potential for bugs, the campaign and battle balance may be somewhat off, and there will likely be gaps in translation, text editing, and things such as unit cards. Our scripting may not be where we want it to be. Our new factions will not be very well fleshed out.
What you will have is the port to 1.5, a new recruitment system that is more complete, all new music, at least one, possibly two new voice mods, new graphical content such as culture-specific GUIs, three new factions, resource and city icons, new grass, and other aesthetic improvements, and about 100 new units.
There are of course more improvements that go along with the move to 1.5, but there is of course more potential for bugs that are new, including CTDs, and without a good deal of playtesting time they will likely exist.
On the other hand the building and recruitment system is what we will be sticking with through 1.0. Because of this there will be no long delay for the next release, as there was for the last two major releases. There will be no back-to-the-drawing board disappointments like there were in the past. As you know the releases after 0.7.2 came hot and heavy, and we would expect the same to happen when we release 0.8.
So the question is:
A) Release next month? (with all the potential for gaps and bugs)
Or:
B) Release when 0.8 is polished? (likely to be several months down the road, at least)
Disclaimer: Complaints regarding a buggy release and/or gaps should you choose A) will be directed to our special circular file.
CountArach
10-28-2006, 11:48
I am going with sooner , PROVIDING that there is a patch to fix the bugs before 0.9...
Once this is clarified I will vote.
Tellos Athenaios
10-28-2006, 12:04
I am in for the next month, as it's still a beta, and the more people who get to test it during a long period a.k.a playing with it, the more bugs, quirks and inconsistencies will be reported (except, of course for the case in which it has still only few troubles to overcome), and the better the team will be able to deal with them. And henceforth more importantly, at least in my view, the sooner the team will be able to release 'a full, unbugged' 1.0 build.
Birka Viking
10-28-2006, 12:33
Well I voted sooner...Beocouse u will prob find the bugs faster when many are playing......And every one knows that it still a beta with possible bugs to u relise the 1.0. So its no doubt that u shall relise it..
Cheers
Antagonist
10-28-2006, 12:52
I voted sooner, on the understanding that "incomplete" means a level of completeness comparable to or greater than that of dear old 0.7.2 (right? wrong?) However, if possible I would like some vague suggestion of what the time-frame for the alternative is? I know it's basically going to be WID, but even a vague ball-park figure? Before Christmas time? The 1st anniversary of the public beta? Q1 2007? etc.
Anyway, whichever is the chosen path we shall still require patience. :book:
Antagonist
Ive been waiting for many months now, a few more wont hurt.
Anyways, there's more to life than computer games so...
Btw, If players can expect a "hotfix" or anything, they will probably vore for next month "en masse"
Next month would be sweet! ~D
Dear EB fans,
What you will have is the port to 1.5, a new recruitment system that is more complete, all new music, at least one, possibly two new voice mods, new graphical content such as culture-specific GUIs, three new factions, resource and city icons, new grass, and other aesthetic improvements, and about 100 new units.
I thought there'd only be 2 new factions?? :2thumbsup:
I thought the entire purpose of you releasing any build prior to 1.0 was so the general community could help bug hunt and play test?
I voted soonest, so those we can help you find the problems.
I havent played much of the previous releases but I'll do my best to do my part and help find bugs for y'all to squish, this time around.
Voted next month. And that's because then we will all help and find CTD and bugs. And the game will be finish faster. Does who voted on the second answear can just simply wait for a patch to come along. And it will come along alot faster when we all help putting it together.
It's a win-win situation if you ask me. :)
Next month would be sweet! ~D
I thought there'd only be 2 new factions?? :2thumbsup:
Oh! Did we not tell you there would be 3? My how did we ever forget that? :beam:
There will be fixes before 0.9.0 and at a much faster rate than before, partly helped because we are using a -mod: build, so no need for packing anything (UI stuff mostly).
As for the option to wait until a polished version of 0.8, well we cannot judge that far ahead, but it wouldn't be more than a few months (I would say).
Foot
You know, I love EB, since playing it I just dont get much fun from playing either RTW-unmodded or any of the mods out there. So I voted for A, cause I really like to play some more EB, unfortunately the current release has the load-save bug from version 1.2, which sort of screws up the experience.
BozosLiveHere
10-28-2006, 14:34
I voted sooner, on the understanding that "incomplete" means a level of completeness comparable to or greater than that of dear old 0.7.2 (right? wrong?)
I think we could say it will be as stable as .72, yes. It probably won't be as stable as .74 though.
There is going to be a certain correlation between v.80 and v.72, in that each was known to be incomplete before they were released. The fundamental difference is that v.72 was released BECAUSE it had many CTDs which the team couldn't track down - we needed help from a massive base of playtesters. In this case there are still a couple in there, but we have a decent chance of solving them before the release. The biggest similarity is incompleteness. This is a MASSIVE build with a ton of new things. Polishing it up is going to take a while.
As to hot-fixes? Of course! We wouldn't drop a turd into your laps and walk away for a few months. You have seen how we responded to the v.72 issues, and it's safe to say we'll do so again this time.
Where can i find a summary of the expected changes and improvements etc. That will be applied with 0.8?
so far ive only seen a few faction previews and a 20 page long "suggestions for v0.8"topic.
Do it sooner. There has to be that point where you 'put the stick in the mud,' so to speak, and commit to a release date. If the team doesn't, who knows how much time could be spent polishing 0.8. It is, after all, only a beta and those of us who have been reading the forum know what to expect. I also imagine that this will mean a faster release cycle for the team now that the biggest hurdle has been leaped - recruitment.
Do it.:2thumbsup:
Teleklos Archelaou
10-28-2006, 15:29
I don't think either way we will have many buildings with blank text. And we will try our best not to have any "Roman Barracks" building icons also - we will have placeholders for those that aren't finished if there are any.
As we get quite close to the release we will start working more on a list of all the changes. It's too long and still in flux to post it now (plus we want some of it to be a surprise).
I would say release so soon as possible. And if there are a few bugs no problem cause it's still a beta.
Markus_Aurelius
10-28-2006, 16:35
There is always potential for gaps or bugs so i say, release as soon as humanly possible!
NeoSpartan
10-28-2006, 17:15
Before I make my vote:
Can you guys tell me HOW INCOMPLETE????? PLZ.....
-like give me an example of some scripting issues, or balancing, or whatever.
I need more info before making a smart decition. So far, the info that has been given of how the game will come out in Option A is somewhat vage.
thx EB team
There always will be the potential for bugs in any mod no matter how polished it may be. So I say release sooner. If it is really buggy people will complain, but it will make finding and ironing out bugs much easier as there will be many more people out there to hunt them down!
Without EB 0.8 the :end:
Before I make my vote:
Can you guys tell me HOW INCOMPLETE????? PLZ.....
-like give me an example of some scripting issues, or balancing, or whatever.
I need more info before making a smart decition. So far, the info that has been given of how the game will come out in Option A is somewhat vage.
thx EB team
Well, the BETA testers are curently on update 2a and there are A LOT of problems. The EB team has been able to fix a lot of what we found, but I won't know for sure how buggy 0.8 is so far until we receive the next update which will have benefitted from all our labours.
Markus_Aurelius
10-28-2006, 17:24
Well keep up the good work
Incomplete? Well, buildings and units will likely be far more complete, with relatively few missing building or unit card pictures. Most will all have text, though some will not have translated names and many will likely have grammar/spelling errors (most of our members are not first-language English, and we have a dire need for text editors). The content as far as music, voices, and campaign graphics will be greater.
Our scripts and traits may have chunks missing from what we have done in the past, and/or what we planned to do for this version, because of the difficulty of moving them to 0.8, and the problem caused by the Reinforcement CTD. The three new factions will be relatively bare, but the others will be more fleshed out.
I think the majority of issues will be found in the traits, scripting, and overall playbalance/playability, along with the potential for CTDs.
Zalmoxis
10-28-2006, 18:41
I voted sooner, because it's a beta, so people should get their hands on it and find the bugs, problems etc.
CaesarAugustus
10-28-2006, 19:00
Definently sooner! I just want to be able to play on RTW 1.5!!
The last time we did this poll, I voted for waiting. Now I think it's damn near imperative that 0.8 roll out sooner rather than later, and I can say why in a short acronym: MTW2.
The next TW game is slated for release on November 14, and can be expected to grab the attention of much, if not most, of EB's current player-base for quite awhile. Getting people to start 0.8 campaigns before MTW2 ships will prevent at least some of that shift.
-Praetor-
10-28-2006, 20:29
Oh! Did we not tell you there would be 3? My how did we ever forget that? :beam:
The three new factions will be relatively bare, but the others will be more fleshed out.
!!!
Oh, perhaps the 3rd "new" faction is an overhaul of the "Iberian" faction...
I think that the option that makes you work faster is option of releasing next month. Off course, there will be people that will download the mod and start playing without caring about helping reporting bugs and such... but there will be some of us that will actually help hunt and destroy CTDs and other bugs... and that will undoubtely speed up the release of 1.0
So, next mont (or sooner).
Conqueror
10-28-2006, 20:31
I'm not sure what to think about having 3 new factions. Wouldn't they already be hitting the hard-coded factions cap with just 2 new ones (with one of the 2 replacing the Yuezhi and the other one taking the Senate slot)? So if we get 3 new factions in EB 0.8, that would mean that one of the old factions (in addition to the Yuezhi) will be removed! So which one will get kicked? Casse? Epeiros? Or maybe Iberia? :sweatdrop:
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
10-28-2006, 20:55
In my opinion you should post it somewhere in between the two options, around 0.7.4 stability but not 'perfect'. But I voted 'soon' because I really want to see the new build.
And, with Yuezhi removed, there are only 18 factions. With a possible of 21, this does in fact leave 3 more possible. Why didn't I see it sooner... :idea2: (They probably didn't tell us sooner, so we wouldn't beg about who it was.) :laugh4:
Since you do provide an open beta I say sooner, thats why we are here. Besides, when we find a bug, report it and you guys fix it, or we manage to fix it ourselves, it makes us feel like a part of the project...we like it hehe.
The real question I think, since you guys do all the hard work is would you be satisfied with a sooner release. I mean if you guys are comfortable with us hacking out bugs and are proud of the content as it is released sooner than I think people will be happy all around.
-Dampiel-
Antagonist
10-28-2006, 21:08
The 21st faction slot has to be occupied by "Rebels" doesn't it?
Antagonist
Well, the BETA testers are curently on update 2a and there are A LOT of problems. The EB team has been able to fix a lot of what we found, but I won't know for sure how buggy 0.8 is so far until we receive the next update which will have benefitted from all our labours.
Which was released today....:whip: :whip:
The Spartan (Returns)
10-28-2006, 21:36
polish it first!
Releasing it sooner can be a win situation for everybody. EB team will have an enormous base of playtesters, and we'll get to enjoy a newer version.
I can't think of a single reason why anybody would want to wait, but the vote has been a landslide anyway. I'll look forward to its release next month! :balloon2:
fallen851
10-29-2006, 07:49
Well if people want it polished, then they don't have to download it immediately and can wait for a later version.
The open beta should help speed the bug hunting process to that version anyway.
NeoSpartan
10-29-2006, 11:09
Thx Fellas for the reply.... and based on the info I voted for next month. :bow:
My fear was a half-a***ed .8 version being thrown out to simply satisfy the members, yet have the entire thing be 2X more incomplete than .74v since u guys re-build the whole of EB for RTW 1.5v.
Teleklos Archelaou
10-29-2006, 16:35
Thx Fellas for the reply.... and based on the info I voted for next month. :bow:
My fear was a half-a***ed .8 version being thrown out to simply satisfy the members, yet have the entire thing be 2X more incomplete than .74v since u guys re-build the whole of EB for RTW 1.5v.
It won't be half-a***ed (?! what is that sixth letter?!) :laugh4: . It's definitely as polished or more than 0.74. It's just not going to be totally polished and complete.
Imperator
10-29-2006, 17:36
I voted to wait, but now seeing a) the huge support for a soon release and b) the good reasons to release it, I suppose I'll have to join the chorus of "release-it-now" fans. I haven't been able to play much EB (I installed BI a while back) but am looking forward to being able to and was admittedly scared at the idea of a mediocre .8 build just to satisfy the fans. However, as I understand it .8 is now in the playtesting stage, and it would be inefficient and dumb NOT to use the huge fanbase to speed up the bug-catching process. However, could someone tell us what factions promise to be most complete? I've wanted to play a Romani game for a while but in .7x they were still kinda incomplete. What factions are now almost fully developed (like KH is now) and what factions will still be kinda incomplete?
Reverend Joe
10-29-2006, 17:50
I would personally strongly advise against the .8 version being released early. I was a Beta Tester for quite a while, I know for a fact that a buggy game can thoroughly ruin one's gaming experience, a lot more than you would think.
Unless everyone is willing to go through a lot of frustration in getting rid of what may be quite a few CTD's, I would strongly suggest that the new release be delayed until it is quite stable.
Personally, I would prefer it if 0.8 was released before the Christmas holidays, because I doubt I will be able to play much after those. The remaining bugs I am quite willing to overlook so long as they aren't game-breaking.
The last time we did this poll, I voted for waiting. Now I think it's damn near imperative that 0.8 roll out sooner rather than later, and I can say why in a short acronym: MTW2.
The next TW game is slated for release on November 14, and can be expected to grab the attention of much, if not most, of EB's current player-base for quite awhile. Getting people to start 0.8 campaigns before MTW2 ships will prevent at least some of that shift.
I remember having posted in this forum a few months ago that I'd bet that MTW2 would be released first then EB 0.8. Someone told me I would be losing that bet. I'm not so sure now. :P Anyways, next month for the reasons already stated.
nemesisvsbrad
10-29-2006, 18:16
I think we should listen to what EB members have to say. I would download 0.8 as soon as they upload it but do I really want it when it's unplayable. My first reaction was like "YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Then the second thought was that we should wait a little longer to have a more stable version. :dizzy2:
I would personally strongly advise against the .8 version being released early. I was a Beta Tester for quite a while, I know for a fact that a buggy game can thoroughly ruin one's gaming experience, a lot more than you would think.
Unless everyone is willing to go through a lot of frustration in getting rid of what may be quite a few CTD's, I would strongly suggest that the new release be delayed until it is quite stable.
But 0.74 and 0.72 weren't ruined by bugs, we all enjoyed them immensely, just as we will with 0.8.
The remaining bugs I am quite willing to overlook so long as they aren't game-breaking.This is exactly my thought. It all depends on the nature of the bugs or glitches.
I voted a, but if the the bugs are overwhelming in number, I think it may ruin the experience for new gamers to EB. What could be done here is to STRONGLY emphasize that this version is an open beta and newcomers should download EB 7.4. I personally would be able to overlook some bugs (CTD, ect.).
I think I speak for most EBers when I say: A, A, A, ... We want it ASAP! Gimme gimme :yes:
~;)
I would be nice if it could be out before M2TW.
Aks K
Voted for A. Rationale: I enjoy the shit out of .74, I can't go back to RTR despite the 1.5 version. .74 has plenty of bugs but I still enjoy it. Release .8! Bring on the BUGS... won't hear a peap out of me.
vizigothe
10-29-2006, 23:42
Simple release it next month. Bugs and gaps aside it is a beta and it can always be patched. So after 0.8 we could always get a 0.8.1 and a 0.8.2, etc.
I'm not too concerned with bugs and the like. It is a beta after all.
Geoffrey S
10-30-2006, 00:40
As has been said, bugtesting at a decent pace is what the community is good for; as long as the mod's reasonably playable such as was the case with .72 I'd say go ahead and release the early version. Those who want a more complete and bugfree version, such as myself, can wait, it can't be too long.
And three new factions? Very intriguing, I'd be interested in either how a new faction can be added or which old faction got the boot.
PseRamesses
10-30-2006, 09:05
...sooner, since it will take the testing-workload of your backs!
Copperhaired Berserker!
10-30-2006, 09:34
Yuezhi got the boot, I think, so that makes 3 factions.
Yes definately release it sooner, its a win win both ways.
As for the 3 factions. I'm going to bet the house its saka rauka and 2 competeing iberian factions.:pimp2:
Hi I'm new here, I signed up to cast a vote for an earlier release.
Version 0.72 had a few bugs too but I didnt mind, I was just happy to have the latest build. Also, an earlier release will take the edge off for fans like me who are eagerly anticipating this excellent mod.
-Praetor-
10-30-2006, 09:56
Yuezhi got the boot, I think, so that makes 3 factions.
Yeah, but that`s 1 faction, plus the senate slot, equals 2, not three...
So another faction must have got the boot...
CountArach
10-30-2006, 11:28
I think I might have just figured it out!
We have been told that the two Nomadic Factions will be interesting to play as.
Okay lets look at the ones we have: Sauromatae, Yuezhi and Pahlav
Okay yuezhi is getting the boot for Saka Rauka... and that leaves us with still 3 Nomadic factions.
I think Sauromatae got kicked...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think I might have just figured it out!
We have been told that the two Nomadic Factions will be interesting to play as.
Okay lets look at the ones we have: Sauromatae, Yuezhi and Pahlav
Okay yuezhi is getting the boot for Saka Rauka... and that leaves us with still 3 Nomadic factions.
I think Sauromatae got kicked...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It probably did get "kicked". Sauromatae was always a little boring to play and I don't think they ever really did anything great during their lifespan.
Conqueror
10-30-2006, 15:34
The way I see it there are two types of fans here:
1. Those who don't mind the bugs. These will of corse want to choose option A.
2. Those who want to play as bug-free version as possible. Ironically, these will also want to choose option A, because it means that the bug-free version (0.9?) will be ready much sooner, thanks to the public playtesting of the early-released 0.8.
We have been told that the two Nomadic Factions will be interesting to play as.
Okay lets look at the ones we have: Sauromatae, Yuezhi and Pahlav
Okay yuezhi is getting the boot for Saka Rauka... and that leaves us with still 3 Nomadic factions.
I think Sauromatae got kicked...
I think Pahlav is considered an Eastern faction, not nomadic.
fallen851
10-30-2006, 18:36
But 0.74 and 0.72 weren't ruined by bugs, we all enjoyed them immensely, just as we will with 0.8.
Well Zorba said it was CTD's, that is a game ruiner, while the incompleteness and little bugs of 0.74 can be overlooked.
CalIrish
10-30-2006, 19:22
0.8 should be released early, and it may have some unpredicted good side effects. People keep clamoring for a release and want to know the secret things such as the new factions, and have been very... ehem.... aggressive in this, and it seems to have been getting at you guys recently, and understandably so. If a bunch of people download this, find there to be a bunch of CTD's, only a few of the people genuinely interested in helping in the beta will keep playing. However, the other people who were getting downright ugly about this whole situation will realize you guys are right and will go back to .74 satisfied with knowing all the secret stuff to 0.8.
So yes, my vote was for an early release ;)
Teleklos Archelaou
10-30-2006, 22:33
Well Zorba said it was CTD's, that is a game ruiner, while the incompleteness and little bugs of 0.74 can be overlooked.Ever the eternal optimist. :2thumbsup:
CountArach
10-30-2006, 22:42
I think Pahlav is considered an Eastern faction, not nomadic.
Damn! You are probably right...
Then who could have been removed? Getai?
SwordsMaster
10-30-2006, 22:54
as it is a beta, I think next month is good enough. Besides, you will find more bugs once the players start whining about them. Think about it.
fallen851
10-30-2006, 23:46
Ever the eternal optimist. :2thumbsup:
Me or Zorba?
Hi I'm new here, I signed up to cast a vote for an earlier release.
Welcome! Always good to see new folks! :2thumbsup:
HighLord z0b
10-31-2006, 01:31
I would vote for an earlier release because I have RTW Gold Edition and I can't play EB at all at this stage. Although I understand that it is better to have a stable game than CTD just when it is getting interesting.
Cataclysm
10-31-2006, 04:45
I voted for the earlier release as well. I will echo what many of the others have said, in that the constructive feedback you get from the community as a whole should help stamp out the bugs in the build and hopefully expidite development of the mod.
It's no secret everyone has eagerly anticipated 0.8, including myself. We are all excited over the new features and I think this will outweigh the negatives of the beta.
Thanks again for all your work! :bounce:
Olaf The Great
10-31-2006, 04:53
Do it sooner, or I will blame Dayve.
Remember guys, this is a "beta"
A "beta" is released "sooner"
I must admit, your team is better then RTR's
They haven't released a preview since June.
And those previews weren't very informative.
I don't like it when you people hold things away from us...:elephant:
Remember "BETA" and "SOONER"
Do it sooner, or I will blame Dayve.
:laugh4:
O.K., I did not have toooo many CTDs in 0.74, so what does "more CTDs" mean? More than 0.74 or just every now and then? Everybody knows it ain´t 1.0....
Besides I think we, the users, can help you guys out with CTD detection...right?
Plus: I wanna play the Saka Rauka please...I am close to the end of my Sarmate campaign on RTR. Nomads need to roam you know....:charge:
Yes, and so, apparently, do nomad historians. :embarassed:
fallen851
10-31-2006, 19:47
If we do (release sooner), we have a greater potential for bugs, the campaign and battle balance may be somewhat off, and there will likely be gaps in translation, text editing, and things such as unit cards. Our scripting may not be where we want it to be.
As you know the releases after 0.7.2 came hot and heavy, and we would expect the same to happen when we release 0.8.
Will these "hot and heavy" releases for 0.8 (assuming its released sooner) fill in things such the as gaps in translation, text editing, scripting and unit cards, or just fix bugs?
I'm particularly interested in the unit cards, will they be filled in before 0.9?
well, it's apparent that the masses want 0.8 fairly soon:yes:
The Spartan (Returns)
11-01-2006, 03:33
well i just hope those bugs arent major.
Cnaeus "The Victor" Cato
11-01-2006, 04:41
Hey all. Yea first post for me. I just would like to say Ive played R:TW for countless hours, RTR for more countless hours and EB .74 for even MORE countless hours (in that order) and I am so impressed with your work. I would love to get my hands on .8, even if its mainly for stomping on bugs. :yes:
Aymar de Bois Mauri
11-01-2006, 05:08
Will these "hot and heavy" releases for 0.8 (assuming its released sooner) fill in things such the as gaps in translation, text editing, scripting and unit cards, or just fix bugs?All parts of the mod will be taken care of in the patches.
I'm particularly interested in the unit cards, will they be filled in before 0.9?Yes.
Do it sooner, or I will blame Dayve.
Remember guys, this is a "beta"
A "beta" is released "sooner"
I must admit, your team is better then RTR's
They haven't released a preview since June.
And those previews weren't very informative.
I don't like it when you people hold things away from us...:elephant:
Remember "BETA" and "SOONER"
You have been sucked in by false propaganda. Clearly it is the fault of Teleklos if it is not released soon, i am innocent!
Olaf The Great
11-01-2006, 05:44
You have been sucked in by false propaganda. Clearly it is the fault of Teleklos if it is not released soon, i am innocent!
...Lol...
I blame Teleklos for making me blame you.
CountArach
11-01-2006, 06:28
lol @ title.. EB 0.8.6.7.5.3.0.9
...Lol...
I blame Teleklos for making me blame you.
So. This is war. :charge:
Gaius Terentius Varro
11-01-2006, 14:22
Too bad I snapped all the disks into pieces after playing unscripted custom battle in M2 demo. With better AI and graphics I see no reason to pretend play RTW mods since the AI is so poor. EB missed the train just like the chivalry mod
Teleklos Archelaou
11-01-2006, 15:33
did you really break your discs? Sorry, but what a dummy...
Release next month or die trying. :sweatdrop:
Reverend Joe
11-01-2006, 17:24
0.8.wha?! :inquisitive:
Anyway, what I meant was, in fact, CTD's (thanks, Fallen.) Minor wierd bugs can be ignored, as well as usually being easy to fix.
CTD's, on the other hand, SUCK. They are real and true game-ruiners.
If you want to be beta testers rather than beta players, there is no problem whatsoever with that; but you should be aware that it is not nearly as fun, especially if you want to be an effective Beta tester. It's a lot more like work.
men, if you are sure this will for real continued in the next months with the same efforts, i say publish it just now, or sooner you can.
I answer with a sentence of an italian writer:
"when you become to worry about the expectations of your reader (fans in the case of EB), well, you are just finished."
so i say you are worrying too much abaut these expectations, just publish it cause it is a patch after all, is not a finished version, and then you can let coming out as much hotfix patch as you want. You are not going to loose somethink or to win some prize if some people will get bored of the bugs or CTD.
It's your work, that's is.
who love me, will follow me...
just pursue your way
greetings
0.8.wha?! :inquisitive:
Anyway, what I meant was, in fact, CTD's (thanks, Fallen.) Minor wierd bugs can be ignored, as well as usually being easy to fix.
CTD's, on the other hand, SUCK. They are real and true game-ruiners.
If you want to be beta testers rather than beta players, there is no problem whatsoever with that; but you should be aware that it is not nearly as fun, especially if you want to be an effective Beta tester. It's a lot more like work.
I could've spent 4 or 5 hours a day bughunting 0.8 when you asked for people to apply to test it, but my application was ignored and i never even recieve a PM to say i had been rejected.
But still, like i've said already... Your loss. I'll do my bughunting whether it be then or when you release it publicly.
By the way, CTD's don't suck all that much, just hit CTRL+S everytime you are about to end turn, i've been doing it since the days of RTR 4.
Reverend Joe
11-01-2006, 20:07
I could've spent 4 or 5 hours a day bughunting 0.8 when you asked for people to apply to test it, but my application was ignored and i never even recieve a PM to say i had been rejected.
But still, like i've said already... Your loss. I'll do my bughunting whether it be then or when you release it publicly.
By the way, CTD's don't suck all that much, just hit CTRL+S everytime you are about to end turn, i've been doing it since the days of RTR 4.
:confused: When did I ask for volunteers?
I could've spent 4 or 5 hours a day bughunting 0.8 when you asked for people to apply to test it, but my application was ignored and i never even recieve a PM to say i had been rejected.
But still, like i've said already... Your loss. I'll do my bughunting whether it be then or when you release it publicly.
By the way, CTD's don't suck all that much, just hit CTRL+S everytime you are about to end turn, i've been doing it since the days of RTR 4.
We said in the thread that if you didn't receive a PM we had not chosen you as a beta-tester. We didn't ignore any application, but we had many and we thought that it would be simpler to send out a PM to everyone who had been accepted, and let those know who hadn't been accepted that if they didn't receive a PM then they had not been accepted.
There are many reasons for choosing a beta-tester, you didn't pass all of them and so we decided not to choose you. Its quite simple, really. I'm sorry that you feel aggreived somehow, but you shouldn't do.
Foot
AntiochusIII
11-02-2006, 02:45
Release sooner and see what happens. ~;)
Seriously. EB has enough completely devoted fans to ensure a great amount of defensive barriers against the usual Pessimistic Internet Complainers that will come up at all the bugs that might still be there. A backlash of any kind is utterly unexpected, considering the consistent quality displayed so far of this very much comprehensive mod.
Moreover, it's good to keep people interested. I think there are a lot of people here who'd like to feel as if they are "unofficially in-the-project" in helping with all the bughunts. Just to make sure it's all about bughunts (and let those who dare risk rough terrain appreciate the awesomeness so far), you might as well post a short and cohesive "guidelines for reporting bugs" with all the giddy-diddy about Save-Every-Turn (in different names) and Try-Reproducing-It! that is the stable of the bughunting tasks right after the download link.
That, and most people would rather play the mod in a 1.5 RTW base than a 1.2 base, which is fundamentally far more...complete.
Just my opinion.
:bow:
Just in case some of you haven't noticed Foot's comment in another thread:
We had already decided that we wanted to push ahead with an early release of 0.8 before we put out the public poll, we put out the public poll so that we could gauge what people's reactions would be.
Teleklos Archelaou
11-02-2006, 03:46
Just in case some of you haven't noticed Foot's comment in another thread:
Yeah, we wanted to, but we seriously felt we needed to see what the reaction was first. If it had been negative and people wanted to wait, we wouldn't have ignored it.
I would not call that statement entirely accurate. We do not make polls simply for making polls. We have been gauging our own ability and desire to release the next version earlier than intended both internally and publically. Calling it a "decision" is not accurate.
Realease it now I say! Just get it done with. CTDs are not that bad, it can still be a fun game. Look at Blue Lotus!
oudysseos
11-02-2006, 19:45
Has anybody thought about the numerological significance of the closing date of the poll? What's going to happen at 10:37?
nemesisvsbrad
11-04-2006, 05:54
I have hanged myself and looking at the screen. If EB is not out in 2 minutes I am dead. EB team will be held responsible for my action. Also I have torched a PC yesterday so I can play EB in the afterlife. Could someone kind enough to send me the files in the afterlife. It's very easy just smash the HDD!!!
vizigothe
11-04-2006, 09:08
^^^
Rofl! WTH! You cant take EB with you! They dont allow fun things like that in the afterlife. It is either subversive or too much fun. You are screwed my friend!
:laugh4: :laugh4:
Has anybody thought about the numerological significance of the closing date of the poll? What's going to happen at 10:37?
The poll will close and EB 0.8 will probably come out later that day.
*disclaimer*
This is not an official announcement, this is just my opinion. Sorry for those that thought that it was official.
hafensaengerx
11-04-2006, 12:47
What's going to happen at 10:37?
Sorry, but what do you mean with this?
scourgeofrome
11-04-2006, 13:36
The poll will close and EB 0.8 will come out later that day.
:2thumbsup: ~:thumb: :thumbsup:
-Praetor-
11-04-2006, 13:48
The poll will close and EB 0.8 will come out later that day.
I honestly suggest that you should edit that post, and write a disclaimer that says that`s not the voice of the team, neither an official announcement, and that that`s just a teaser, a purely hypothetical post with no connection whatsoever with reality.
Just to avoid confusion BTW, and the fact that people may get that that`s a release date, which isn`t. :book:
scourgeofrome
11-04-2006, 18:02
*disclaimer*
This is not an official announcement, this is just my opinion. Sorry for those that thought that it was official.
:cry:
Laundreu
11-04-2006, 18:10
Sorry to bust your bubbles, kids, but it looks like the end-date is simply 14 days after the first post. Nothing special about it.
Sorry to bust your bubbles, kids, but it looks like the end-date is simply 14 days after the first post. Nothing special about it.
He's right. When you create a poll, you can set how many days the poll will remain open, but not how many hours or minutes, so it closes on exactly the same time of the day as when it was created.
oudysseos
11-04-2006, 19:31
Oh. It's just that the date reminded me of 'The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month...' except that it is the tenth hour seven and thirtieth minute, so I was just wondering if it was on purpose or if the date had any particular significance.
Actually I don't give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys, I just wanna play EB 0.8! Gahhh!
pezhetairoi
11-05-2006, 07:06
I say release it ASAP, patches and bugs notwithstanding. There's a reason why it's 0.8 and not 1.0, after all. ^_^
I honestly suggest that you should edit that post, and write a disclaimer that says that`s[...] the [...] official announcement
sweet!
Markus_Aurelius
11-11-2006, 03:54
Is EB still going to be released some time this month or is that out the window by now?
Teleklos Archelaou
11-11-2006, 04:35
Still possible I'd say. More than possible. But you never know. I wouldn't expect it within the next week though. That's just to keep you guys from checking back in here all weekend. I'd sort of like to preview a faction to you guys, but we're too busy. One of our guys in particular has been going absolutely insane with new units for a faction and I certainly have been amazed.
IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer
11-11-2006, 08:18
I'd go with sooner. I'm sure I'm not the only person whose interest in EB and other RTW mods has died off with the release of M2TW. If you wait another couple months, you'll probably have half the playerbase you would now.
hafensaengerx
11-11-2006, 12:33
I'd go with sooner. I'm sure I'm not the only person whose interest in EB and other RTW mods has died off with the release of M2TW. If you wait another couple months, you'll probably have half the playerbase you would now.
I don't think so. Remember Vanilla and how much better EB or RTR are. Maybe graphic and AI of M2TW are better, but although those mods are better: More Units, more areas, more factions, better support, ...
I'll wait until EB2 is out before I'll buy M2TW! And so i don't have to buy me a faster PC now...
I don't think i'll buy MTW2 anyway... I could never get used to commanding christian/catholic nations... I have a severe dislike of religion, so it annoys me to see my nice shiny army lined up, knowing they're all believers in teh illusion that is christ.
EB FTW!
I have a severe dislike of religion
HERITIC! :clown:
The poll is closed, so where is our 0.8?
HERITIC! :clown:
The poll is closed, so where is our 0.8?
I agree. We have been decieved, and it is Teleklos's fault. :wall:
scourgeofrome
11-11-2006, 16:46
I just hope it comes out soon.My parents wont let me buy MTW2 (family tradition to not buy stuff for yourself near Christmas).I need this to distract me from visiting the MTW2 board and commercials on TV (They just had to put a commercial on didn't they).
Cnaeus "The Victor" Cato
11-11-2006, 19:17
Yea, I hope .8 comes real soon. Im probably not going to buy M2TW until EB2 comes out as well. As much fun as MTW was, I wasnt that pleased with the M2TW demo. Ill stick with EB until it comes out for M2TW.:2thumbsup:
Kierkegaard
11-12-2006, 13:07
I'd sort of like to preview a faction to you guys, but we're too busy.
well, no need preview, just work and 0.8, that would be ok, for what we really need just is 0.8 not some preview!!
Publio Cornelio Escipión Africano Mayor
11-13-2006, 00:22
So.... If you don't mind.
I had to give my girlfriend my Rome cd, just to avoid playing it (you know I am an EB addict). So, if you don't mind (again), could you release 0.8, because the condition to get my game back was its release, so PLEASE (now i'm begging :sweatdrop:).
So.... If you don't mind.
I had to give my girlfriend my Rome cd, just to avoid playing it (you know I am an EB addict). So, if you don't mind (again), could you release 0.8, because the condition to get my game back was its release, so PLEASE (now i'm begging :sweatdrop:).
:laugh4:
NeoSpartan
11-13-2006, 23:17
So.... If you don't mind.
I had to give my girlfriend my Rome cd, just to avoid playing it (you know I am an EB addict). So, if you don't mind (again), could you release 0.8, because the condition to get my game back was its release, so PLEASE (now i'm begging :sweatdrop:).
dat boy ain't right :no:
dat boy ain't right :no:
It's definitely one of the most unique "reasons why I'm begging" we've ever gotten, though! :whip:
i've been satisfied with .74 for a while now just waiting for medieval 2 to get here. release .8 whenever
So.... If you don't mind.
I had to give my girlfriend my Rome cd, just to avoid playing it (you know I am an EB addict). So, if you don't mind (again), could you release 0.8, because the condition to get my game back was its release, so PLEASE (now i'm begging :sweatdrop:).
The problem here is your priorities are all confused :whip:
Give that girl a good seeing to in the bedroom
then say... "Im going to play EB - if youve got anything to say about it - then I repeat what I just did"
either you'll get left alone to play EB or you'll get more sex than youve ever had in your life
either way you win
put that woman in her place - with you man stick - thats what she wants
:whip:
:yes:
Publio Cornelio Escipión Africano Mayor
11-15-2006, 15:59
The problem here is your priorities are all confused :whip:
Give that girl a good seeing to in the bedroom
then say... "Im going to play EB - if youve got anything to say about it - then I repeat what I just did"
either you'll get left alone to play EB or you'll get more sex than youve ever had in your life
either way you win
put that woman in her place - with you man stick - thats what she wants
:whip:
:yes:
That's a great piece of advice :idea2:
hahaha
NeoSpartan
11-15-2006, 18:26
The problem here is your priorities are all confused :whip:
Give that girl a good seeing to in the bedroom
then say... "Im going to play EB - if youve got anything to say about it - then I repeat what I just did"
either you'll get left alone to play EB or you'll get more sex than youve ever had in your life
either way you win
put that woman in her place - with you man stick - thats what she wants
:whip:
:yes:
diz boy IS right :yes:
Teleklos Archelaou
11-15-2006, 18:34
Change the subject guys. Enough of that particular "discussion".
Zalmoxis
11-16-2006, 04:10
So, like, when is the game released exactly?
Publio Cornelio Escipión Africano Mayor
11-16-2006, 04:43
So, like, when is the game released exactly?
They said this month. Who can't wait two weeks who has waited a life time?
:2thumbsup:
Change the subject guys. Enough of that particular "discussion".
Agreed.
Stop discussing that most pleasurable and natural part of life immediately, some find it offensive!
yeah....
and its distracting people from asking when the mod will be out
bad bad bad
:no:
Count Flip
11-17-2006, 03:14
with this mod coming out soon its gonna be #1 on the best mods released this month along with The Crusades and Fourth Age TW
man I bought the eras DVD pack. Not only was it more expensive but it renders me unable to play EB. I was so pissed and have waited for the new version since forever. Please release it and put me out of my misery.
The team continues to make significant progress toward our November release goal. The final prelease internal build is due shortly, and it will contain most of the key items designated for v.80. We are looking for stability (i.e no game killing CTDs) and balance, then one final rush of new units and some polish into the v.80 release build, one final run of beta testing, and then you can all be the judge of whether this was worth the wait.
Yeah, that is good news Kull. I pretty much know EB 0.8 won´t disappoint me.
Saka Rauka Saka Rauka
Looking forward to it, still playing 1.2 ver
Kierkegaard
11-23-2006, 04:02
i have one clean RTW1.5 intalled, and am waiting for the release of 0.8.
but i doubt it will be released within this week. Hope my doubt would be wrong!!!
Usually when a mod team (or even a professional gaming company) provides a release date, it's almost certainly a fantasy. And when, about 4 weeks ago, the EB Team said "November", many of you probably shook your heads and said "well then, hopefully by Christmas". But this team bought into that date and behind the scenes, they have been moving mountains. It's no exaggeration to say that the EBH forum has been busier and more productive than at any time in it's history. The amount of product this team has packed into the build in that short period of time is phenomenal.
And that frenzy culminated today in the release of what we call "Update4". It's the final internal build before v.80, and it is FULL of brand new, ass-kicking, limit-testing new features, including the 100% switch over from Iberia to Lusotana. And usually when a team makes that great of a leap, its trouble. Well it's still early, but so far the build is running smooth, to this point perhaps our cleanest ever. No new CTDs (just an old one we forgot to clean up) and many of the Update3 problems look to be resolved.
Now this could change. Over the next few days our Beta Testers will be riding it hard, looking for any hint of problems. And anything could happen. But while that is going on, the build team will be working through the list of empty descriptions, bringing in another 20 or so new units, eliminating ever more of those bothersome peasant cards, and doing 50 other things, many of which you'll never even notice (but would if we didn't do them). And many people will be working almost around the clock in order to do this.
So we're not here to guarantee you'll see v.80 in November, but we can say that we are still on track to get there. And we didn't want you guys sitting around, wondering and hoping, with no real idea of when it's coming. We have one week to complete our last set of tasks. Wish us luck, and do me a personal favor. Next time you see an EB Member post out here, tell him "Thank You!" Those guys are giving you everything they have.
pezhetairoi
11-23-2006, 12:50
Say uh, you can't play EB with RTW Gold, right? And you can't play 0.8 without BI?
You will be able to play 0.8 without BI, we are not moving to BI we are staying on RTW - its just RTW 1.5 now.
Foot
scourgeofrome
11-23-2006, 16:00
Next time you see an EB Member post out here, tell him "Thank You!" Those guys are giving you everything they have.
Alright then.Thank You.Oh,and have a Happy Thanksgiving.*is wishing there was a turkey smilie*.
Kierkegaard
11-24-2006, 01:51
Good news! and Thank you man!! Wish everything goes well and then we can get 0.8!! :)
In fact, I do believe it will be released within this month. :)
We have one week to complete our last set of tasks. Wish us luck, and do me a personal favor. Next time you see an EB Member post out here, tell him "Thank You!" Those guys are giving you everything they have.
LUCK IN BATTLE *touches shoulder*
and thankyou all - your efforts are eagerly anticipated and gratefully appreciated
:yes:
One more push and we'll win the day!
By the way, how well does the EB 0.8 diplomacy work now that it is in 1.5? Has anyone who has played the "Update4" seen much difference? From what I've played 1.5 mods they tend to have better battle AI than 1.2 mods, but a little weird diplomacy... Well I guess I'll see in a while.
Thank you for everything, don't stress yourselves out. Remember to sleep ~:)
CountArach
11-25-2006, 08:00
By the way, how well does the EB 0.8 diplomacy work now that it is in 1.5? Has anyone who has played the "Update4" seen much difference? From what I've played 1.5 mods they tend to have better battle AI than 1.2 mods, but a little weird diplomacy... Well I guess I'll see in a while.
Well... 1.5 Diplomacy is unusual. It is partially moddable (You can set how likely factions are to get along with), yet if you fail in a diplomatic agreement with any faction, they will nott alk to you the rest of that turn.
Thank you for everything, don't stress yourselves out. Remember to sleep ~:)
Do not listen to this man! He is clearly delirious! :stars:
Now back to the dungeon :whip:
Yes, whatever you offer them after they reject your proposal (or vice versa) they'll just reject. It's quite annoying but I'm used to it.
Cheexsta
11-26-2006, 12:50
My observations on 1.5-based mods is that they are best played on medium campaign difficulty - IMHO, this often makes the AI decisions quite reasonable. In one game, for example, as Rome I was offered a ceasefire by Iberia (while I had a land border) after I decimated their armies, and I accepted. They used the chance to build up a new army and launch another attack on me.
And the AI will still accept anything with inordinate amounts of money ;) add a million denarii/mnai to the mix and hey presto, you have a protectorate 100% of the time...
Usually when a mod team (or even a professional gaming company) provides a release date, it's almost certainly a fantasy. And when, about 4 weeks ago, the EB Team said "November", many of you probably shook your heads and said "well then, hopefully by Christmas". But this team bought into that date and behind the scenes, they have been moving mountains. It's no exaggeration to say that the EBH forum has been busier and more productive than at any time in it's history. The amount of product this team has packed into the build in that short period of time is phenomenal.
And that frenzy culminated today in the release of what we call "Update4". It's the final internal build before v.80, and it is FULL of brand new, ass-kicking, limit-testing new features, including the 100% switch over from Iberia to Lusotana. And usually when a team makes that great of a leap, its trouble. Well it's still early, but so far the build is running smooth, to this point perhaps our cleanest ever. No new CTDs (just an old one we forgot to clean up) and many of the Update3 problems look to be resolved.
Now this could change. Over the next few days our Beta Testers will be riding it hard, looking for any hint of problems. And anything could happen. But while that is going on, the build team will be working through the list of empty descriptions, bringing in another 20 or so new units, eliminating ever more of those bothersome peasant cards, and doing 50 other things, many of which you'll never even notice (but would if we didn't do them). And many people will be working almost around the clock in order to do this.
So we're not here to guarantee you'll see v.80 in November, but we can say that we are still on track to get there. And we didn't want you guys sitting around, wondering and hoping, with no real idea of when it's coming. We have one week to complete our last set of tasks. Wish us luck, and do me a personal favor. Next time you see an EB Member post out here, tell him "Thank You!" Those guys are giving you everything they have.
Great!:beam: Since it takes me about 15 minutes already to load a battle, I'll really only need the music!
Teleklos Archelaou
11-27-2006, 00:42
15 minutes? c'mon, my computer's slow, but that's way exaggerated.
Some examples, with my numbers at top, on a lower end system. But be sure to look at the second to last entry - that is the absolute slowest system you would seriously want to try and run RTW on, and it is nowhere near that. We hear people complain about load times, but when we actually time them, our concerns almost totally disappear:
==========================
EB 0.80a, latest build (without/new gov-mic system files), RTW 1.5.
Equipment
AMD Athlon 1.3 GHZ
1.0 GB DDRAM
Nvidia GEForce4 MX 4000 128MB (Dual Monitor - this is one of those that can't show our campaign map trees, but uses sprites for them instead)
Loading times
EB Total Load Up(from double click to Main Menu): 1m 58s
EB Campaign Load Up: 1m 39s
EB Campaign End Turn: approx 1m 47s
===========================
EB latest build, RTW 1.5.
Equipment
Pentium IV 3.2 GHZ with HT
512MB DDRAM
250GB HDD
ATI RADEON X700 256MB
Loading times
EB Total Load Up(from double click to Main Menu): 1m 11s
EB Load Up: 7s
EB Campaign Load Up: approx 1m 10s
EB Campaign End Turn: approx 35s
===========================
EB 0.80a, latest build (w/new gov-mic system files), RTW 1.5.
Equipment
AMD Athlon 1.84 GHZ
1.0 GB DDRAM
Nvidia GEForce4 Ti 4600 128MB
Loading times
EB Total Load Up(from double click to Main Menu): 1m 17s
EB Campaign Load Up: 53s
EB Campaign End Turn: approx 28s
===========================
EB 0.8 with all UI updates and new resources
Equipment
AMD Athlon 2.6 GHZ
1.0 GB DDRAM
ATI Radeon 9600
Loading times
EB Total Load Up(from double click to Main Menu): 1m 18s
EB Campaign Load Up: 40s
EB Campaign End Turn: 10s (without script on)
===========================
CPU : 1,70 GHz
RAM : 512 MB
GFX : ATI RADEON 9600 64 Mb
EB Load-up : 1:40
EB Campaign Load : 2:10
EB Campaign Turn : 40s (15 turns as Pontos)
===========================
AMD Athlon 756 MHz
320 MB RAM
Radeon 9200
Total Load: 3 min 40 sec
Camapaign Load: 3 min 35 sec
End Turn: 2 min 43 sec
===========================
System:
CPU --> AMD Athlon64 3000 (1,8 Ghz, Venice core)
MB --> Asus A8N-E (nForce4)
RAM --> TwinMOS 2 GB (4 DIMM PC3200)
GPU --> Asus Nvidia Geforce 6600 GT (128 MB, Zalman VGA Cooler)
HDD:
* 1 --> Western Digital Special Edition SATA2 (16MB cache, 7200 RPM, 250 Gb)
* 2 --> Western Digital Special Edition UATA (8MB cache, 7200 RPM, 80 Gb)
* 3 --> Western Digital Special Edition UATA (8MB cache, 7200 RPM, 80 Gb)
Loading times:
EB Total Load Up (from double click to Main Menu): 1m 01s
EB Campaign Load Up: 46s
EB Campaign End Turn: 22s
the only time it really takes a while for me (on a lower end system) is when i initially start the program. i usually take the opportunity to go and make a cup of tea.
Bovarius
11-27-2006, 14:29
Or going to the bathroom one last time and passing by the frige and getting some more beers before you start.
If we were able to blend the agressive aspect of VH and the diplomacy of E or M then it would create more diplomatic reliant games.
Kralizec
11-27-2006, 18:09
Not to mention more palatable autocalc results...
Not to mention more palatable autocalc results...
1.5 (appears) to have no better auto-calc results that 1.2.
Conqueror
11-27-2006, 22:39
He was talking about the difficulty modes (VH ruins autocalc).
Aristophanes
11-28-2006, 02:14
Thank you EB team for your incredible past and present work!!!!
Aristo
Teleklos Archelaou
11-29-2006, 06:02
Just a teeny tiny note that everyone is really working their tails off guys. Lots of discussion about whether two more days makes a huge difference or not. Won't say what decisions have been made or anything, but this thing is close.
I will note that there is one bug that we've always had, but had been successful in getting around but now it's proving to be much more difficult. It concerns buildings placed in descr_strat or campaign_script files at the start of the game, and them not showing up as the proper culture variant of the building level. We will probably start a big public thread on it and ways to try and get around it, but it's not going to slow things here. There may be some buildings we have those default barracks images for, but we simply can't figure out why they are doing it. Post this 0.8 release, we may have more time to test possible options, but we've done all we can right now on it. Most of the time you won't notice this though, but some rebel cities have the problem worse than others. Faction cities have got it pretty much solved.
Honestly, at this point I think you guys should just wait until winter break when finals and the semester are over. I don't think I have the will power to not play EB and instead study.
Conqueror
11-29-2006, 14:07
Just a teeny tiny note that everyone is really working their tails off guys. Lots of discussion about whether two more days makes a huge difference or not. Won't say what decisions have been made or anything, but this thing is close.
Your efforts are appreciated 100% :2thumbsup: And don't sweat it if the release drifts to December, most EB fans should know that good things are worth waiting for.
Publio Cornelio Escipión Africano Mayor
11-29-2006, 17:57
Your efforts are appreciated 100% :2thumbsup: And don't sweat it if the release drifts to December, most EB fans should know that good things are worth waiting for.
Speak for yourself, I can't wait any longer :wall:
Birka Viking
11-29-2006, 19:25
Speak for yourself, I can't wait any longer :wall:
LOL...:hide:
Speak for yourself, I can't wait any longer :wall:
And yet, somehow, you will! :whip:
(Note to Birka Viking: I was going to limit my response to a private eye-roll, but I didn't want to keep you in suspense!)
Kierkegaard
11-30-2006, 01:42
Speak for yourself, I can't wait any longer :wall:
lol, i can not wait any longer, too!!:idea2:
fatsweets
11-30-2006, 01:47
I probably check the EB forums 2 or 3 times a day to see if there is some news on when .8 will be released. To pass the time I've been playing the extended greek mod but I just don't like conquering a territory and being able to recruit new units right away. So I eagerly await and thanks for the EB teams hard work it truly is appreciated.
NeoSpartan
11-30-2006, 06:53
MAN.... this .8 version of EB is being a b*th for the EB team. Dang its already November 30th!
Keep it up fellas don't give up.
Giving up? Now? You are out of your brain! We needed endurance when all needed to be built up after the 1.5 port and it all looked bleek. But now... in our hour of triumph?
Shigawire
12-03-2006, 01:32
We are WELL over that "hike" neospartan, and we have even thrown in some surprises I think you'd all like.
Thanks for your words of encouragement though. :smash:
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