Common problems with desc_names.txt?

[wlesmana]

I'm having problems trying to get new names for the factions. One faction, romans_julii, has only 10 names and 1 surname. Yet when I play Custom Battle, it CTDs most often than not. I've triple-checked the names and they appear legit.

Is it because of the 1 only surname? Is there any limitations to the minimum or maximum number of names we can use?

[reahad]

I had that same problem. I just guessed there werent enough names, so i copied all of the names and pasted them right after each other until each name list looked a respectable length.



faction: romans_brutii

characters
Chanakya
Kautilya
Chandragupta
Arthashastra
Visnugupta
Ashoka
Bindusara
Brhadrata
Dasaratha
Devavarman
Kaurwaki
Sanghamitra
Kuru
Samprati
Salisuka
Satadhanvan
Udayin
Nagadasaka
Kalasoka
Bhaddasena
Korandavanna
Mangura
Sabbanjaha
Jalika
Ubhaka
Sanjaya
Korabya
Pancamaka
Kakavarna
Ksemadharman
Ksemajit
Ksatraujas
Darsaka
Mahanandin
Somapi
Srutasravas
Ayutayus
Sukshatra
Brihatkarman
Senajit
Srutanjaya
Vipra
Suchi
Kshemya
Subrata
Dharma
Susuma
Dridhasena
Sumati
Subhala
Sunita
Satyajit
Biswajit
Ripunjaya
Pusyamitra
Agnimitra
Vasujyeshtha
Vasumitra
Andhraka
Pulindaka
Ghosha
Vajramitra
Bhagabhadra
Devabhuti
Vasudeva
Aitareya
Vashishtiputra
Satakarni
Hala
Gautamiputra
Nahapana
Vashishtiputra
Rudradaman
Gaha
Simuka
Kanha
Krishna
Dhana

Lambodara
Manu
Mayurasharma
Kangavarma
Bagitarha
Raghu
Kakusthavarma
Santivarma
Mrigeshavarma
Shivamandhativarma
Ravivarma
Harivarma
Vishnuvarma
Simhavarma
Pulakesi
Mahapadma
Pandhuka
Panghupati
Bhutapala
Rashtrapala
Govishanaka
Dashasidkhaka
Kaivarta
Argames
Shishunaga
Kakavarna
Kshemadharman
Kshatraujas
Bimbisara
Ajatashatru
Darshaka
Nandivardhana
Mahanandin
Bimbsara
Ajatasattu
Udaybhadra
Anuruddha
Munda
Nagadasaka


surnames

Maurya
Banavasi
Triparvatha
Trikarna
Ikshvakus
Kadambas
Chutus
Abhiras
Saptashati
Satakarni
Pulumayi
Sri Yagna
Shri Pulumavi
Andhrabhrityas
Satakarnis
Andhra
Satavahana
Pradyota
Bharata
Brihadrata
Haryanka
Shishunaga
Nanda
Shunga
Sunga
Kanva
Maurya
Banavasi
Triparvatha
Trikarna
Ikshvakus
Kadambas
Chutus
Abhiras
Saptashati
Satakarni
Pulumayi
Sri Yagna
Shri Pulumavi
Andhrabhrityas
Satakarnis
Andhra
Satavahana
Pradyota
Bharata
Brihadrata
Haryanka
Shishunaga
Nanda
Shunga
Sunga
Kanva
Maurya
Banavasi
Triparvatha
Trikarna
Ikshvakus
Kadambas
Chutus
Abhiras
Saptashati
Satakarni
Pulumayi
Sri Yagna
Shri Pulumavi
Andhrabhrityas
Satakarnis
Andhra
Satavahana
Pradyota
Bharata
Brihadrata
Haryanka
Shishunaga
Nanda
Shunga
Sunga
Kanva
Maurya
Banavasi
Triparvatha
Trikarna
Ikshvakus
Kadambas
Chutus
Abhiras
Saptashati
Satakarni
Pulumayi
Sri Yagna
Shri Pulumavi
Andhrabhrityas
Satakarnis
Andhra
Satavahana
Pradyota
Bharata
Brihadrata
Haryanka
Shishunaga
Nanda
Shunga
Sunga
Kanva
Maurya
Banavasi
Triparvatha
Trikarna
Ikshvakus
Kadambas
Chutus
Abhiras
Saptashati
Satakarni
Pulumayi
Sri Yagna
Shri Pulumavi
Andhrabhrityas
Satakarnis
Andhra
Satavahana
Pradyota
Bharata
Brihadrata
Haryanka
Shishunaga
Nanda
Shunga
Sunga
Kanva



women
Ava
Daria
Esther
Jasmine
Kira
Lila
Roxanna
Ardaxcashca
Arkha
Ariyamna
Arshaka
Arshama
Artaxshasa
Arxa
Asina
Atamaita
Athiyabaushna
Bardiya
Frada
Haldita
Martiya
Nabunaita
Utana
Vivana

[Apoc]

I do not think it is the lack of names (I have about 10 names or so for Rohan and Dunland both in CI). It may be because of the surname, as I seem to remember there was a surname issue for the Roman factions, but that should be easily checked by adding a few more.

I have found that it is best to not delete any names from names.txt (and lookup, if you're working on 1.5?), as that seemed to cause inexplicable CTDs, and was just too much work for no benefit.

[wlesmana]

Here's a weird thing I noticed: sometimes, the game would use the surname as the name of the captain. I thought this would've looked weird in RTW since if you're barbarian, your captain could have the name "Of Britannia" or something.

So maybe the use of surnames as first names for captain is a Roman culture thing?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I keep all symbols and spaces out of my internal name variants, and only use them in the external name variants. I keep all name lists in excel, and use the concatenate command to add brackets around the words to make sure my lists in descr_names.txt match the names.txt file. Don't leave anything to chance. Make absolutely sure they always match up, and also I never type names into to descr_strat, I only copy and paste them from my descr_names.txt file. This way it reduces the chance for errors. And I'm talking about huge names, and thousands of them (our EB dn.txt file has more than 10,000 last time I checked), and (knock on wood) we don't have any problems at all with names. Internal names can get long, but just leave all that other stuff for the external variants (that show). We've got internal variants like: Nvmerivsmessienvs or IlWatarYuhanem or arvernimocTaximagulos or Ornithopoleosphoinikikes or Stratonikeiasbabyloniakes. Use Excel and make your life a lot easier keeping them straight and reducing errors. I always play it safe too and have more than 10 names in each category though. And make sure you don't have repeated names in descr_strat.txt for characters (captains is ok). Oh, and I replace all spaces with nothing. So sometimes a space that pops up at the end of a word doesn't hurt anything.

[wlesmana]

I am using excel. It'd be stupid not to, since I'm doing a total conversion.

Still, that doesn't explain the faction romans_julii taking a surname to use for a captain's name.