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Jan Zamoyski
11-20-2006, 13:33
Is it possible to retrain those special mercenary units that are possible to recruit during the crusade?

Well will they even stay in my army after the crusade ends?
Dave1984
11-20-2006, 13:35
1) I don't know, but combining depleted units and hiring more helps.

2) Yes
chunkynut
11-20-2006, 13:52
I've found it possible to retrain the Unhorsed Knights who have been hired for the crusade but not others, I've not had much joy in recruiting Crusader Seargents or Crusader Knights in some of my later crusades.
Musashi
11-20-2006, 15:19
Honestly, they're so inexpensive to hire, if you could retrain them it would be a little unbalanced. Just be happy you can hire super cheap effective units and cheerfully send them off to their doom.
Bob the Insane
11-20-2006, 17:11
You know I am not sure... Iwould say no because they are a mercenary unit...

But, I can retrain the Unhorsed Knight mercenary units back up to full strength in one of my middle east fortresses....
kercool
11-21-2006, 20:40
yeah but why keep them they have a really high upkeep cost.
Senta
11-21-2006, 20:46
i am pretty sure that i could retrain some of them, sargeants and possibly dismountd knighs or w/e they are called.
Jan Zamoyski
11-21-2006, 21:06
yeah but why keep them they have a really high upkeep cost.

For one they look fancy:laugh4: Plus I'm playing Poland which has rather mediocre infantry. So for example those Unhorsed knights would be a nice addition to my army.

On another note, my Polish crusading army that just entered the Holy Land on it's way to liberate Jerusalem look pretty strange. Some 3/4 of it consists of various mercenaries hired on Eastern European plains: Slav mercenaries, Bulgarian brigands, Cuman horse archers and Alan light cavalry. Geez, these guys shouldn't even be catholics, even less so zealous enough to go on Crusade.
Jan Zamoyski
11-22-2006, 03:12
After liberating Jerusalem I can now confirm that Unhorsed knights can indeed be retrained. And not only in the castle but also in the city (at least in Jerusalem).
Basileus
11-22-2006, 04:15
You can retrain all mercs as long as its possible to buy the same kind of merc in the region youre in, oh and there needs to be some available otherwise you cant retrain you will need to wait like when training your normal units.
lars573
11-22-2006, 04:38
From the looks of it you can retrain any merc unit when your settlment has a pool of the same type.
Mailman653
11-22-2006, 04:56
You can retrain all mercs as long as its possible to buy the same kind of merc in the region youre in, oh and there needs to be some available otherwise you cant retrain you will need to wait like when training your normal units.

I'll have to try that out, I have a great cross in Antioch with 10 soldiers or less, looks like I'll have to FedEx it back to Rome :laugh4:
Furious Mental
11-22-2006, 05:04
Cities would be pretty useless for some factions if you couldn't retrain mercs. Thank god for mercenary spearmen.

I haven't had any experience with crusades yet, but jihad units seem to make good garrison units, despite their terrible defence I find they kill all comers when defending walls. If you need more of them just call another jihad. Wonderful.
KARTLOS
11-22-2006, 05:59
i wa able to recruit an unhorsed knight crusader merc near antioch when not actually on a crusade - this may be related to the fact that they are retrainable

it was the crusader price as well -220 or something
Jan Zamoyski
11-22-2006, 11:18
You can retrain all mercs as long as its possible to buy the same kind of merc in the region youre in, oh and there needs to be some available otherwise you cant retrain you will need to wait like when training your normal units.

I'm able to retrain unhorsed knights in Jerusalem despite the fact that there aren't other units of that type available for hire at the moment.