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Thorn Is
11-26-2006, 01:51
got link from another forum i visit
i dont agree with some of the list
but it is a good list
and worthy of discusion

http://criterion.uchicago.edu/issues/vi3/greatestman.html

that is all
Julian the apostate
11-26-2006, 18:15
i'm not sure if combining them all really gets you the greatest people but its a pretty good list a few deviations i might make but i really like how they actually took the tribes into the names

one big problem: CHARLTON HESTON OVER CHUCK NORRIS BLASPHEMY where is my arson smiley
IrishArmenian
11-28-2006, 01:43
I disagree with one main subject: Belisarius should top the eunoch list.
LeftEyeNine
11-28-2006, 09:04
Too informal something worthy to be of a historical topic. Thanks for share though. ~:)
Subedei
11-28-2006, 09:42
What was the problem with Levi Strauss? Academics in Chicago don´t like jeans, or what?!? :inquisitive:
Lorenzo_H
11-28-2006, 16:16
hmmm that is an interesting list, but only one man's opinion.
Geezer57
11-29-2006, 15:02
I disagree with one main subject: Belisarius should top the eunoch list.
Belisarius wasn't a eunuch - perhaps you're thinking of Narses, who was a contemporary historical figure?
Orb
11-29-2006, 21:00
Greatest Normans:

Guiscard
Guiscard
Guiscard
Guiscard
Guiscard

and... Guiscard.

They appear to have missed Ivan the Terrible on body parts...
The Wizard
11-29-2006, 22:32
Roger II outshines and simply out-kings his great uncle. If only by the virtue that he was more successful in keeping those dangerous, unruly barons under his control.

And, don't know about you, but Bohemond's life of adventure was equal if not more impressive than that of his father. :yes:
Mooks
11-29-2006, 23:27
Greatest Bastards

1. Emperor Shi Huang Di of the Qin Dynasty

2. King William I of the Normans

3. Mayor Charles Martel of the Franks

4. Desiderius Erasmus of Rotterdam

5. King Genseric of the Vandals



Where is king richard the lionheart? He should be on 3 lists actually ; leader, warrior, and bastard.
Orb
12-02-2006, 00:59
Roger II outshines and simply out-kings his great uncle. If only by the virtue that he was more successful in keeping those dangerous, unruly barons under his control.

And, don't know about you, but Bohemond's life of adventure was equal if not more impressive than that of his father. :yes:

Hm...

Well, Roger had a more favourable set of circumstances, in my opinion. Guiscard had very little aid and a great number of very powerful enemies. I'm not saying that Roger II didn't have an uncomfortable start, but I don't think he had the same difficulty establishing power to begin.

Bohemond is possibly more interesting, probably not more impressive. Guiscard threatened to take the Byzantine empire and was only stopped by a fever at the age of about sixty or seventy. Sadly, Bohemond's defeat at the hands of Alexius prevented any hope of a Norman Greece :embarassed: