View Full Version : There are times when "We're sorry" and a little hush money don't cut it...
Don Corleone
12-07-2006, 17:55
Blind rape victim harrassed, bullied, ridiculed by local police department and city government. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,235066,00.html)
I'm absolutely speechless by the callousness exhibited here. Among other things: attornies for the city mocked this rape victim, who was blind, for not fending off her knife-wielding attacker; the city charged her with filing a false police report; and the kicker... two detectives came up with a fabricated plot to lie to the victim to pressure into admitting she made up the charges.
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
35K and "Oops, our bad" just don't seem to be equitable compensation in my book.
Watchman
12-07-2006, 18:07
:inquisitive: Geh. Talk about authority attitude problem. And people wonder where the ultra-feminists get their ammunition.
Why would a bag of money ever be compensation, with the amounts that can be made I am not that surprised they blame her for trying. You create your own monsters I think.
:inquisitive: Geh. Talk about authority attitude problem. And people wonder where the ultra-feminists get their ammunition.
Bad people are out there that hurt everything. Ultra-feminists in my opinion are crazy (but that's just me). They do the exact thing they accuse men of doing, but to the extreme. Don't forget, sicos do that same stuff to guys, and lately there has been a rise of women doing it to. And guess which women, that's right, the ultra-feminists. They are only what they accuse the guys of. I mean, how many guys are like that? Blaming a sex for something that certain members of the sex do is the essence of sexism. They should be getting mad at the PEOPLE who do it, not the MEN who do it. I know women (personally) who fantasize about raping and "subduing" men. There are wackos of both sexes, men just have a stronger-sex drive and are more physically able to rape than women. The women's solution is to punish those that do it, not punish the male sex, which will only make men resent women and think of them less like people and more like meat (if you'll pardon the expression). The answer certainly isn't to do the very thing you object to them doing!
They are like some guys I know who hate women and think that women only use men (because the ones they know did use them), and blame the whole female sex. They view women as sex objects, just as women increasingly view men. A big cause of this is feminism. I am the first to vote for sexual equality and believe in it whole-heartedly, but feminism isn't about sexual equality, it is the exact opposite. (Actually, most, not all. I do know some feminist who are moderate and believe in equality).
Goofball
12-07-2006, 19:37
35K and "Oops, our bad" just don't seem to be equitable compensation in my book.
Especially in a country where a "victim" who burned herself with coffee that was "too hot" wins millions in court.
This is worth far more than that. I would suggest the city might want to add a large contingent liability on to this year's financial statement.
Goofball
12-07-2006, 19:40
Wow. Just read the rest of the posts in the thread.
Only in the Backroom can a thread about a blind woman who is raped and then bullied by the police be turned into a chance to do a little feminist bashing. Why stop with the feminists? Let's have a go at the blind too. They're nothing but useless drains on society. Why should they get off so easy?
Lovely.
My stomach hurts.
Lovely.
My stomach hurts.
Take a few tums and drink some milk, then.
yesdachi
12-07-2006, 20:21
Serving and protecting with predictable quality, way to go Police!
She out to get a sweet book deal out of it if she plays her cards right. :greedy:
Speaking of blind people, don’t you love how they have brail on the drive-thru ATM’s?
Speaking of blind people, don’t you love how they have brail on the drive-thru ATM’s?
Yes.
I remember being in Edmonton, once, at a crosswalk. I ended up waiting for a little while, so I figured I'd push the ol' button and speed things up. Turns out it wasn't the 'speed up the walk light button', but 'trigger the blind man bleep boop button'. We have bleep boop signals at home, but surely, our city planners had the foresight not to make them deactivate unless someone pushes a button.
Sasaki Kojiro
12-07-2006, 22:09
Speaking of blind people, don’t you love how they have brail on the drive-thru ATM’s?
Yes, I love the way they don't bother to have a special mold made for the drive through ones, they just use the same for all. Laziness.
Wow. Just read the rest of the posts in the thread.
Only in the Backroom can a thread about a blind woman who is raped and then bullied by the police be turned into a chance to do a little feminist bashing. Why stop with the feminists? Let's have a go at the blind too. They're nothing but useless drains on society. Why should they get off so easy?
Lovely.
My stomach hurts.
No, I feel for the woman and agree that she should get a hell of a lot more compensation. Watchman, however said something pretty dumb and I had to comment about it. Unlike the blind, feminists are just trouble makers who are disrupting society. I mean come on, guy could say the same thing by citing cases like this: Woman tries to rape husband, mutilates and sufficates (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/12/07/bashkkilling.shtml). People of both sexes do bad things, you can't use that as an excuse to caus esocial turmoil.
Watchman
12-07-2006, 23:34
Nice to see you have your priorities straight, Vuk. You are, however, shadowboxing, as I never said anything to the effect you seem to think I did.
I just observed that this sort of thing is what the feminist ultras can point a finger at and yell "male chauvinist patriarchal discrimination" or some variation of the theme (I've run into enough of the more militantly feminist analysis to be familiar with the basic pattern and logic). They'd more or less be right too, but that's beside the point.
Kralizec
12-07-2006, 23:50
That's messed up. Those detectives should be fired, as well as their superiors who knew about it and didn't do anything. And those lawyers...
Vuk:
Nobody said they agree with ultra feminists. What Watchman meant (I think) is that ultra-feminists will refer to this case and say "See? The state hates women!"
This probably is just a case of piss poor policemenship, and I don't think that there's enough evidnece pointing towards institutionalized sexism- but it will be construed as such.
Great job :rolleyes: at finding an incidental case where a woman tries to rape a man. Obviously that Russian women was also a hardcore feminist...
Anecdotal cases don't weigh up against the amount of domestic abuse and sexual violence that occurs against women.
Crazed Rabbit
12-08-2006, 00:08
I don't think feminism has anything to do with this. That poor woman deserves more compensation, but sadly even if she gets it the officers will probably not even get a slap on the wrist.
CR
That's messed up. Those detectives should be fired, as well as their superiors who knew about it and didn't do anything. And those lawyers...
Vuk:
Nobody said they agree with ultra feminists. What Watchman meant (I think) is that ultra-feminists will refer to this case and say "See? The state hates women!"
This probably is just a case of piss poor policemenship, and I don't think that there's enough evidnece pointing towards institutionalized sexism- but it will be construed as such.
Great job :rolleyes: at finding an incidental case where a woman tries to rape a man. Obviously that Russian women was also a hardcore feminist...
Anecdotal cases don't weigh up against the amount of domestic abuse and sexual violence that occurs against women.
No, He said that that was a ligitemate case, and I said it was not. I agree that it is a case of poor policemanship, and possibly that the police knew the guy, and covered for him. All I was saying though is this is NOT a legitimate case for them to use. I simply posted the link to that because it just came up on the thread and I thought it coincidental. I realize that there are many more cases of abuse against women that men, simply because women are more less able to abuse men then men are women. If you want I can produce a thousand such cases. (lol, I was a debator, I now work in crime statistics, and am going for a degree in history:beam: ). I am sick of people saying such stupid things as he did. I am not a male chauvanist pig, I have THE highest respect for women, I think they should definately be treated equally with men. But that is where it stops. You see, I've witness so much discrimination in my life, I am starting to get sick of it. My girlfriend (one of them :beam: ) Is always being discriminated against because she is American Indian. If she was black people would worship her to her face and give her special treatment, then cut her throat when she wasn't looking. I am simply a guy who want to put a stop to discrimination.
P.S. the point of posting the link was to show that the feminists have nothing to complain about, as a woman who tortured her husband to death will POSSIBLY get 24 months, while if a man did that to his wife (minus the penis thing of course) his butt would be in jail forever (which is unfair. If he does something like that to the woman, he should be put to death). I am simply saying that unlike he said, the feminists do not have a case. They don't have to fight for sexual equality anymore because not only did they have it, but now they get special treatment.
AntiochusIII
12-08-2006, 00:40
No, He said that that was a ligitemate case, and I said it was not. I agree that it is a case of poor policemanship, and possibly that the police knew the guy, and covered for him. All I was saying though is this is NOT a legitimate case for them to use. I simply posted the link to that because it just came up on the thread and I thought it coincidental. I realize that there are many more cases of abuse against women that men, simply because women are more less able to abuse men then men are women. If you want I can produce a thousand such cases. (lol, I was a debator, I now work in crime statistics, and am going for a degree in history:beam: ). I am sick of people saying such stupid things as he did. I am not a male chauvanist pig, I have THE highest respect for women, I think they should definately be treated equally with men. But that is where it stops. You see, I've witness so much discrimination in my life, I am starting to get sick of it. My girlfriend (one of them :beam: ) Is always being discriminated against because she is American Indian. If she was black people would worship her to her face and give her special treatment, then cut her throat when she wasn't looking. I am simply a guy who want to put a stop to discrimination.Your indignation is misplaced.
Just so you know, Watchman has never been much of a feminazi, he simply states what is the case. in which I have deemed to be quite something of his speciality: this pathetic case will only allow an extreme feminist to feel more "righteously" indignant at the mistreatment of women in the world. And in this particular case they might not be entirely wrong. Who knows what those scum in the Force are thinking when they do that?
Moreover, that black people comment at the end smells...fishy. :creep:
They don't have to fight for sexual equality anymore because not only did they have it, but now they get special treatment.Oh, they do alright. Just try visit Japan sometimes. And that's a first world country. No need to touch the easier cases like just about every bloody developing/completely screwed nations out there.
Kralizec
12-08-2006, 00:53
No, He said that that was a ligitemate case, and I said it was not.
No, he didn't :inquisitive:
I realize that there are many more cases of abuse against women that men, simply because women are more less able to abuse men then men are women.
That and testerone differences...
If you want I can produce a thousand such cases. (lol, I was a debator, I now work in crime statistics, and am going for a degree in history:beam: ).
I'm quoting Crazed Rabbit on this one: the plural of anecdote is not data.
If you have the time, you'll obviously have no problem in finding 1,000 cases of sexual violence against men, by women. It's a big world afterall. Sexual violence against women is much more common, and therefore a bigger problem.
I am sick of people saying such stupid things as he did. I am not a male chauvanist pig, I have THE highest respect for women, I think they should definately be treated equally with men. But that is where it stops. You see, I've witness so much discrimination in my life, I am starting to get sick of it. My girlfriend (one of them :beam: ) Is always being discriminated against because she is American Indian. If she was black people would worship her to her face and give her special treatment, then cut her throat when she wasn't looking. I am simply a guy who want to put a stop to discrimination.
I never called you, or implied that you are a male chauvanist pig. But your rant against extreme feminists is a bit out of place in this thread.
They don't have to fight for sexual equality anymore because not only did they have it, but now they get special treatment.
They do before the law, yes.
There's still some resentment from (moderate) feminists that even in a lot of developed countries women generally receive lower wages for the same work as men when both are equally qualified. Societies change at a much slower speed then their systems of law.
IrishArmenian
12-08-2006, 01:51
Wow, I DO hate people.
These people should be fired, fined and she should get huge amounts of money, and that wouldn't be enough. Disgusting.
Louis VI the Fat
12-08-2006, 02:43
And people wonder where the ultra-feminists get their ammunition...
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