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Strike For The South
12-08-2006, 03:46
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/12/07/baby.microwave.ap/index.html
Im going to cry:shame:
Evil_Maniac From Mars
12-08-2006, 03:54
I'm against the death penalty, but I'm sure many will agree with my saying that the scum who did this does not deserve to live.
Big King Sanctaphrax
12-08-2006, 03:58
I'm not sure the death penalty is appropriate here, if she did it. No-one puts their own baby in a microwave for fun-she must have serious mental health problems.
I saw another article similar to this some time ago. It said that it was difficult to prove that the baby was killed in the microwave because of a lack of data regarding how human tissue reacts to microwaves of that intensity.
I saw another article similar to this some time ago. It said that it was difficult to prove that the baby was killed in the microwave because of a lack of data regarding how human tissue reacts to microwaves of that intensity.
Well then I suggest that we test what happens to human tissue when subjected to high watt microwaves. Starting with this women as the first test subject.
I'm against the death penalty
If you are against the death penalty why do you support capital punishment for this women?
doc_bean
12-08-2006, 10:18
What if the baby sitter did it ? Baby sitters do some ****** up stuff if America's Most Shocking Video's has taught me anything.
Major Robert Dump
12-08-2006, 10:40
I wonder if she removed the plastic film
Holy crap this is sick. Agree with BKS, this is not an ordinary crime, she must completily nuts. Still pleeding for something that hurts long and much though.
Banquo's Ghost
12-08-2006, 10:58
Is it too Leftist Liberal Conspirator of me to point out no-one has been convicted yet?
Since there has been no information released on motive or psychiatric reports, let alone a conviction, it may be better to park the outrage.
A better discussion would arise from wondering how this woman will obtain a fair and rational trial when this kind of article is published alongside her photograph?
If she did it, she must be mentally unstable. That is just too sick.
Sjakihata
12-08-2006, 11:31
Is it too Leftist Liberal Conspirator of me to point out no-one has been convicted yet?
Since there has been no information released on motive or psychiatric reports, let alone a conviction, it may be better to park the outrage.
A better discussion would arise from wondering how this woman will obtain a fair and rational trial when this kind of article is published alongside her photograph?
Completely agree. People crying for her lynching before she has been convicted, let alone had a trial, is symptomatic for this forum and it gives me little hope in the western civil state.
If she did it, she must be mentally unstable. That is just too sick.
:yes:
I agree. If she is mentally unstable she needs help - not death. It is sick. The poor child must have been in extreme pain and would have been screaming. Only somebody with no mental stability or no empathy would leave the child in there to die at the hands of microwaves. :no:
Louis VI the Fat
12-08-2006, 11:58
DAYTON, Ohio (AP) -- A woman suspected of killing her month-old daughter by putting her in a microwave oven was indicted on a charge of aggravated murder Thursday, and the prosecutor said he would seek the death penalty.
The indictment against China Arnold, 26, does not provide details on the death of Paris Talley.Wait, let me get this right: so, China - more unstable than we thought - nuked Paris, Paris ceased it's struggle after just a few minutes without a single shot being fired, and now the Americans are going after China?
Wait, let me get this right: so, China - more unstable than we thought - nuked Paris, Paris ceased it's struggle after just a few minutes without a single shot being fired, and now the Americans are going after China?
Indeed you got it right. China nuked Paris and now America is attacking China to bail out the frenchies. :creep:
Rodion Romanovich
12-08-2006, 12:02
Uhm... is the link a video? I don't dare clicking on it. Disgusting to kill a baby in a microwave when living in a society that has both contraceptives and abortion. There's simply no justifiable reason at all! It's probably a mentally ill person, or a drug user. Luckily enough we have homes for such people, where they can be kept safely away from others until they get better.
macsen rufus
12-08-2006, 12:06
Too gruesome for words, but BG is quite right -- we can't prejudge from the safety of the backroom. Issues that will need to be looked at include the babysitter, and post-natal depression.
Trail by media is bad enough, never mind trial by backroom. Let the investigation proceed, and let the jury decide.
And Louis -- totally inappropriate comments....
but :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: anyway!
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
12-08-2006, 12:07
Um, can we consider ignorance here people?
Common practice to put children and lambs in the oven not so long ago.
Banquo's Ghost
12-08-2006, 13:07
Common practice to put children and lambs in the oven not so long ago.
Maybe in Devon.
Come to think of it, isn't Newborn Hotpot still a delicacy in Drewsteignton?
:wink3:
As a parent, it's really hard to read stuff like this. I shouldn't have clicked the link. But by the time I saw the headline, it was already too late. Image in brain. No way to get it out. If only this were Saturday, I could have a stiff drink.
yesdachi
12-08-2006, 16:48
I saw this a while ago and decided against sharing it because it made me sick and angry.
As a parent, it's really hard to read stuff like this. I shouldn't have clicked the link. But by the time I saw the headline, it was already too late. Image in brain. No way to get it out. If only this were Saturday, I could have a stiff drink.
Well you sure don't want to click on this then.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=74254
Not even a parent and I had a terrible night.
Well you sure don't want to click on this then.
To quote El Presidente, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... uh ... you can't fool me twice ..."
In other words, I'm sure your link contains something awful related to children, but I think I'll spare myself. I need to focus on my workday, and not run screaming home to make sure my kids are okay.
The funny thing is this: Most perversions and crimes I can relate to on some level, even if I would never commit them. Who hasn't wanted to murder an obnoxious person at some point? Who hasn't gazed lustfully on a gorgeous 17-year-old? Who hasn't looked an an intractable problem and thought, "Well, why not just kill everybody involved?"
But crimes against little children are beyond my limited lemur imagination. I really can't get into the headspace to understand harming a one-month-old child. I was cuddling with my three-year-old lemur boy a couple of days ago, and wondered to myself, "How can someone sexualize this? How do you even get there mentally?" There's obviously something seriously mis-wired in the brain of a person who can do it.
As always, I need to point out that there's a world of difference between understanding something and approving of something.
Sorry, that was a bit dumb of me. It's a particulary horrible case from the Netherlands, and I am a bit frustrated by it.
yesdachi
12-08-2006, 17:30
To quote El Presidente, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... uh ... you can't fool me twice ..."
In other words, I'm sure your link contains something awful related to children, but I think I'll spare myself. I need to focus on my workday, and not run screaming home to make sure my kids are okay.
The funny thing is this: Most perversions and crimes I can relate to on some level, even if I would never commit them. Who hasn't wanted to murder an obnoxious person at some point? Who hasn't gazed lustfully on a gorgeous 17-year-old? Who hasn't looked an an intractable problem and thought, "Well, why not just kill everybody involved?"
But crimes against little children are beyond my limited lemur imagination. I really can't get into the headspace to understand harming a one-month-old child. I was cuddling with my three-year-old lemur boy a couple of days ago, and wondered to myself, "How can someone sexualize this? How do you even get there mentally?" There's obviously something seriously mis-wired in the brain of a person who can do it.
As always, I need to point out that there's a world of difference between understanding something and approving of something.
I couldn’t agree more. :bow:
UglyandHasty
12-08-2006, 17:57
Another sad case of sick humanity. Instead of killing your child, give him in adoption. There's so many good person unable to have one. Anyway, there's things and peoples i'll never be able to understand, and have not the will to understand them.
I'm against the death penalty, but I'm sure many will agree with my saying that the scum who did this does not deserve to live.
:wall: - your against the death penalty...and yet you support its use???!
horrible thing to happen though, it would be interesting to know of her mental state, or whether she realised how damaging microwaves could be to babies --> i mean theres no "do not place baby inside microwave" warning sticker :2thumbsup:
rory_20_uk
12-08-2006, 20:23
If it's postnatal depression - and very severe at that - then it is transient and it will end. When you offer 3rd world healthcare to the poor, what do you expect?
If it's more longstanding mental illness, then she needs to be sterilised until she's safe to look after another one.
If it was for a kick, then fry her.
~:smoking:
Well then I suggest that we test what happens to human tissue when subjected to high watt microwaves. Starting with this women as the first test subject.
Tuhuhuhur, kill 'em all!
:shame:
I don't have words for this...
I just hope some crazy lawyer won't start asking himself:
"Did the manual say you must not put children in a Microwave?"
I've heard better news, than this that's for sure.
However I don't think you should kill the women just like that. If it was something mentally, then she needs help. And perhaps to be sterilised, be it temporary. By the way everybody could be pushed so far that they will think irrational and do irrational crazy action, murder being one of them. Yet I can't forget how much the child must have suffered.
This just makes things worse (http://www.physorg.com/news84739474.html), even if it can be classified in the "scientists discover that water is wet" branch of reasearch:
Newborns probably able to feel pain: research
Many doctors refrain from giving newborns pain relief during surgical procedures in the belief that they do not feel pain, but new research shows this could be wrong, the Karolinska Institute in Sweden said on Thursday.
"New measurement techniques show that even premature babies display all the signs of a conscious experience of pain," the research institute said in a statement, citing a doctoral thesis by Italian-Swedish researcher Marco Bartocci.
"For many years, doctors have assumed that foetuses, premature babies and fully developed newborn babies do not have the cerebral cortical functions required to feel pain," it said.
"Babies' reactions to potentially painful stimuli have been explained away as unconscious reflexes and so doctors have felt it justified to withhold painkillers during surgery and the like so as to avoid adverse reactions," the institute said.
But Bartocci's research shows that the brains of premature babies are far more developed than previously thought.
His studies "using infrared spectroscopy ... show that pain signals from a pin prick are processed in the cerebral cortex of premature babies in the same way as in adults."
This indicates that "all known pre-conditions for the conscience experience of pain are present, even though this still does not provide any conclusive evidence that they actually undergo a subjective painful experience."
The results of the study, which have been published in the scientific journal Pain, are expected to have "a major impact on pain-relief management for newborn babies as well as on approaches to child development in general," the institute said.
The public defence of the doctoral thesis will be held on Friday.
Kagemusha
12-08-2006, 23:43
:shame: I wont say anything else in to this then lock her up and throw away the key.:shame:
Mithrandir
12-09-2006, 01:06
Let's not use this thread to show our sadistical capabilities.
Innocence until proven guilty and all that.
Rip little baby.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
12-09-2006, 04:32
If you are against the death penalty why do you support capital punishment for this women?
I am against the death penalty in general. However, if it can be proven that this women did it, and she cannot be helped by therapy, then something must be done.
However, I admit I spoke in haste. Solitary confinement with constant therapy would probably be the better route to take. I should not have spoken as quickly as I did. I was sickened and angry, and should have rephrased part of my post.
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