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lars573
12-08-2006, 18:52
This is a riot. I couldn't help but smile, a 4 yearold improper touching someone. :laugh4:

BELLMEAD- A four-year-old hugged his teachers aide and was put into in-school suspension, according to the father. But La Vega school administrators have a different story.

Damarcus Blackwell's four-year-old son was lining-up to get on the bus after school last month, when he was accused of rubbing his face in the chest of a female employee.

The prinicipal of La Vega Primary School sent a letter to the Blackwells that said the pre-kindergartener demonstrated "inappropriate physical behavior interpreted as sexual contact and/or sexual harassment."

Blackwell says it's ridiculous that the aide would misread a hug from a four-year-old. Blackwell wrote to administrators demanding that the whole incident be expunged from his son's academic file because his son is too young to know what it means to act sexually.

David Davis, the executive director of the Advocacy Center in Waco tends to agree with Blackwell. He says assuming the boy has not had sexual encounters, or been inappropriately exposed to pornography, most four-year-olds are sexually innocent.

Blackwell got a response from the La Vega administration. The sexual references on the discipline referral were removed. But the thing that makes Blackwell most upset is they told him "your request for an apology by the aide and removal of all paperwork regarding this incident is denied." Now the young student's file will refer to the incident as "inappropriate physical contact." And Blackwell says he will continue to fight the district.

Adrian II
12-08-2006, 18:57
This is a riot. I couldn't help but smile, a 4 yearold improper touching someone. :laugh4:Microwave him!! :stunned: :furious3: https://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1435/cathofr4.gif (https://imageshack.us) ~:smoking: :coffeenews:

Fragony
12-08-2006, 19:00
They grow up so fast! Anyway, if that teacher gave it any sexual relevance, then she just might be very good with little children.

lars573
12-08-2006, 19:04
Forgot to add the link to the article. :sweatdrop:

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5785699

I mostly feel sorry for the woman. Thinking that a hug could only be sexual.

yesdachi
12-08-2006, 19:26
If they are going to be stubborn about it I would get an attorney to draw up some papers to sue the school for allowing a sexual predator like this teachers aid to act in such a promiscuous fashion that she has given an innocent 4 year old the desire to inappropriately touch her. Let that woman have a mark on her permanent record. The threat of mutual, equal unfair punishment should clear the slate.

CrossLOPER
12-08-2006, 19:29
The west appears to be extremely neurotic about sex... or maybe just this teacher.

This kid probably is still having difficulty eating at a table. How is he capable of knowingly committing "inappropriate sexual contact".

However, it could be that the kid has done this repeatedly, thinking it was a joke, and the teacher, having told him multiple times to stop, got annoyed and just sent him to the office.

Fragony
12-08-2006, 19:38
The west appears to be extremely neurotic about sex... or maybe just this teacher.

Sort of a puritan fascination, more of an american (and a little hint of brit) thing though.

MSB
12-08-2006, 19:43
:rolleyes:

Some teachers are (very) strange these days. Don't comment on my occupation.

CrossLOPER
12-08-2006, 19:47
Sort of a puritan fascination...
I hope you did not take that comment too seriously.

Fragony
12-08-2006, 19:54
I hope you did not take that comment too seriously.

Maybe you just do better when you don't mean it, because you kinda nailed it accidently then. Better take credit once it's there.

Beirut
12-08-2006, 20:40
Microwave him!! :stunned: :furious3: https://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1435/cathofr4.gif (https://imageshack.us) ~:smoking: :coffeenews:

What is truly embarrassing is that I laughed out loud when I read that.

Scurvy
12-08-2006, 20:43
ridiculous... how can a 4-year be accused of that?? :2thumbsup:

Rameusb5
12-08-2006, 21:05
Ok, I'll be the ONE guy who comes in and says that kids CAN behave in an unappropriately sexual behavior. I knew a young kid that used to go around and tickle adults in a very unappropriate way. He thought it was funny to get such a big response out of them.

Personally, I think suspending the student (even "in-school," whatever that means) was a massive over-reaction. Then again, asking the teacher to appologize is ridiculous. It is ENTIRELY possible that the kid did something inappropriate and the teacher reacted accordingly. Would you rather they just laughed it off and the kid wouldn't learn that rubbing your face in someone's tits for a laugh is a good idea?


The father's statement that the kid was simply hugging the teacher is ludicrous since he WAS NOT THERE. The kid was getting on a bus to go home!

Fragony
12-08-2006, 21:12
Innapropiate yes, but sexually innapropiate? That is just how we see it. He's a toddler, next time it's piss-sex when he wets his pants.

GoreBag
12-08-2006, 21:17
Eh, doesn't seem so far-fetched to me.

Rameusb5
12-08-2006, 21:17
I think even a four year old knows WHY certain behavior is inappropriate. They know genetalia is off limits, for example. Just because they don't KNOW what sex is doesn't mean that can't behave inappropriately sexually.

Besides, they know enough about sex to know who to kiss on the playground. I think you'd be surprised how much kids pick up.

Vladimir
12-08-2006, 21:19
Wow. All those breast-feeding infants must be headed for the slammer. Either that or some serious sensitivity training. :shame:

Reenk Roink
12-08-2006, 21:21
Wow, maybe the kid needs to have a little chat about when it's right to touch other people, but this women is going hysterical... :dizzy2:

Fragony
12-08-2006, 21:25
Eh, doesn't seem so far-fetched to me.

There is something to say for that as well, these toilets just aren't tight enough these days.

GoreBag
12-08-2006, 21:30
There is something to say for that as well, these toilets just aren't tight enough these days.

The Dutch are incorrigibly strange and confusing.

Lemur
12-08-2006, 21:30
Microwave him!! :stunned: :furious3: https://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1435/cathofr4.gif (https://imageshack.us) ~:smoking: :coffeenews:What is truly embarrassing is that I laughed out loud when I read that.
Seconded. Adrian, you need help. Professional, caring help.

Aenlic
12-08-2006, 21:50
Texas again. (sigh) :shocked2:

I live about an hour south of there. This is why I pronounce Waco with a "K" after the "C" and I am not in the least surprised at this story. It was bound to happen someday when some idiot (the teacher's aid in this case) took PC too far.

:rolleyes3:

doc_bean
12-08-2006, 22:06
An 8 year old raped a (female) teacher once, true story. When do they become old enough to call it sexual harassment ?
Where do you draw the line ?

Aenlic
12-08-2006, 22:28
You have to draw the line at common sense, doc bean. How would you explain to a 4-year old that he can't hug someone because she thinks he was sexually harrassing her?

doc_bean
12-08-2006, 22:45
You have to draw the line at common sense, doc bean. How would you explain to a 4-year old that he can't hug someone because she thinks he was sexually harrassing her?

Some people don't like to be hugged/touched, it's inappropriate to touch people in certain places because they don't like it, etc.

I'm not saying you have to use big words, but kids need to learn that they have to respect other people's feelings.

Although the teacher does sound like a crackpot to me...

Blodrast
12-08-2006, 22:52
So what on earth happened to a smack on the bottom ?
He did a no-no ? Smack ! He won't do it next time...
Hey, worked for me, and a few other millions of my generation, and it didn't permanently traumatize me, or stifle my personality or whatever...

Aenlic
12-08-2006, 23:29
Some people don't like to be hugged/touched, it's inappropriate to touch people in certain places because they don't like it, etc.

I'm not saying you have to use big words, but kids need to learn that they have to respect other people's feelings.

Although the teacher does sound like a crackpot to me...

Kids, especially at that age need human contact and not impersonal authoritarian behavior. I'd suggest that the problem in this situation, the teacher's aid, is in an entirely inappropriate occupation - being around children - if she doesn't want to be hugged or touched. Instead of blaming the child, let's place the onus where it belongs.

Red Peasant
12-08-2006, 23:39
Wow. All those breast-feeding infants must be headed for the slammer. Either that or some serious sensitivity training. :shame:

Yo, were you still tit-feeding at 4? Respect! :beam:

Aenlic
12-09-2006, 00:17
I knew a woman once who breast fed her youngest, and she still occasionally continued allowing a feeding until the child was over 4 years old. She mentioned once how amusing she thought it was that they could discuss which side tasted better. :rolleyes3: I'm betting the child grows up either preternaturally well-adjusted or absolutely insane.

Red Peasant
12-09-2006, 00:31
I knew a woman once who breast fed her youngest, and she still occasionally continued allowing a feeding until the child was over 4 years old. She mentioned once how amusing she thought it was that they could discuss which side tasted better. :rolleyes3: I'm betting the child grows up either preternaturally well-adjusted or absolutely insane.

Mild or Guinness? :laugh4:

I just bet she was getting a big kick out of it, and it had nothing to do with which side tasted better!

drone
12-09-2006, 00:32
I knew a woman once who breast fed her youngest, and she still occasionally continued allowing a feeding until the child was over 4 years old. She mentioned once how amusing she thought it was that they could discuss which side tasted better. :rolleyes3: I'm betting the child grows up either preternaturally well-adjusted or absolutely insane.
Definitely a breast-man for life, I'll bet. Wasn't there a thread a while back discussing women breast-feeding up to ages 8?

For the original topic, did the boy unhook the bra? Was there cuppage? Did he stick his face in and shake? And can we get a picture of the teacher's aide?

IrishArmenian
12-09-2006, 00:39
What the hell is this? Its just a hug. Blast, those "fun-loving" puritans have taken over every facet of American Life.

Blodrast
12-09-2006, 00:40
Definitely a breast-man for life, I'll bet. Wasn't there a thread a while back discussing women breast-feeding up to ages 8?

For the original topic, did the boy unhook the bra? Was there cuppage? Did he stick his face in and shake? And can we get a picture of the teacher's aide?

Are you kidding ? Grown-ups have serious problems unhooking the bra - which is all the more evidence the kid couldn't have done any serious stuff even if he knew what he wanted! :beam:

CrossLOPER
12-09-2006, 01:39
Maybe you just do better when you don't mean it...
OMGz DIDS I FORGETS THE SMILIES???!??!?!?!?!?:dizzy2: :idea2: :smash: :beam:

Spino
12-09-2006, 05:20
Hey, with those flash cards and her sensible shoes that teacher's aide was just asking for it! It's like waving a red cape in front of a bull!








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CrossLOPER
12-09-2006, 05:46
Hey, with those flash cards ...
Does her yard stick entice you?

EDIT: I fail, OK?

BigTex
12-09-2006, 07:34
My question is did the kid hug the teacher and go

BRUUUUUUuuuUUUuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.:juggle2:

KukriKhan
12-09-2006, 15:49
Why is a 4-year old in school, anyway?

Adrian II
12-09-2006, 16:29
Seconded. Adrian, you need help. Professional, caring help.Agreed. All of us on this forum need professional, caring help. Lots of quality time with significant others. Personal attention on a win-win basis. In a challenging yet safe environment... yadda.. yadda..
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caravel
12-09-2006, 16:34
What is truly embarrassing is that I laughed out loud when I read that.

Same here! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

lars573
12-09-2006, 16:52
Why is a 4-year old in school, anyway?
I started school at 3.

MSB
12-09-2006, 17:00
Some people here are just as bad as the teacher :rolleyes:

MSB
12-09-2006, 17:02
I started school at 3.
I started at four.

doc_bean
12-09-2006, 22:52
Why is a 4-year old in school, anyway?

:huh2: Kids start at three and a half here, do you live in some secluded part of the country *cough* West Vlaanderen *cough* or something ?

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-10-2006, 03:43
I started when i was 4 also.. No, The Partents should have taught the kid not to do it. Yea, he may be 4, but still..

Lemur
12-10-2006, 07:06
Why is a 4-year old in school, anyway?
My three-year-old is in preschool two days a week, largely to acclimate him to the idea of school. I'm not sure he's learning anything exactly, but I wanted to ease him into the idea.

Adrian II
12-10-2006, 13:30
I started school at 3.Good Lord, I had been married, divorced and married again by the age of 3. I had two kids of my own when I went to kindergarten. Flunked my drivers' test so we had to walk all the way there and back. And no mother's milk for me. Women didn't have breasts in those days, couldn't afford the luxury. Young people today have no idea. :baby:

KukriKhan
12-10-2006, 15:10
rofl


...Flunked my drivers' test so we had to walk all the way there and back....

Uphill both ways, through the driven snow, over barbed wire and broken glass - and we liked it!... :laugh4:

I've heard other folks send their kids off to school at 3-4; seems a little early to start the assimilation to me. And, aren't we talking about Waco, Texas here? land of the free and home of the ruggedly independent individual? School at 3, when one can't yet even tie his own shoes, seems contrary to the proper upbringing of the next generation of cowboy heros.

Adrian II
12-10-2006, 16:16
Uphill both ways, through the driven snow, over barbed wire and broken glass - and we liked it!... :laugh4: You were lucky to have broken glass. We had no glass at all. Nothing to drink either. We had to drink sand out of our bare hands, and only on weekends if we were lucky and there was enough to go around. Sure, it was rough on your teeth (if you had any) but we didnt mind. Sand did wonders for your stomach. And I mean real sand, young man, not today's bleached and purified sissy sand.
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Mithrandir
12-10-2006, 17:51
My three-year-old is in preschool two days a week, largely to acclimate him to the idea of school. I'm not sure he's learning anything exactly, but I wanted to ease him into the idea.

It'll surely help him to develop some social skills, interacting with other kids etc.

Cowhead418
12-10-2006, 23:35
Get the woman away from children. Suspend her teaching liscense. Unbelievable, how much of an unhinged loon do you have to be to believe that a FOUR year old's touch is sexual? And then to cry sexual harassment after that? Way to handle things like a mature adult, lady.~:rolleyes: This kid is going to be scarred for life. I don't think he'll ever trust an adult again. Some people, wow...:no: What happened to the world? Have we descended into complete madness already?