Wat Are All Of Your Favourite Units!? [Archive]

Spart

12-11-2006, 12:04

Three way tie between Roman cavalry, Legionary cohort and Spartan Hoplites

Roman cavalry are cheap heavy cavalry and I can use them o great effect
Legionary cohort are cheap and cost as much as Early legionary cohorts and they have Roman discipline
Spartan Hoplites, does my avatar not say it all, if it does not check out my "location"
If not that, well then, I love the Idealism that the ancient Spartans stood for (before they attempted the oligarchy in Athens) it is a perfect example of what happens when a system of checks and balances are put in place and enforced so that a dictatorship is established and the country is run into the ground owing to the paranoid dictator. I would also like to state that their leaders were mentally strong and did not let the power get to them (except one, there is always a bad egg).

MSB

12-11-2006, 18:42

I have to say Pantodapoi Phalangitai of EB. Partially because they are cheap effective defencive infantry, partially because they are the first ever levy phalanx unit I have ever seen in a TW game that can actually can do anything and partially because they answer with a really amazing accent. I just can' resist repeating it wherever I go :laugh4:

Andres

12-11-2006, 19:36

Zweihanders,

+1

Tss Tss Tss. In front of the new members :no:

I prefer peasants.

+1 :grin:

Dutch_guy

12-11-2006, 19:39

Venetian Heavy infantry would probably be my favorite unit, at the moment. Still subject to change though, as I'm still on my very first campaign :beam:

:balloon2:

CaesarAugustus

12-12-2006, 01:18

From RTW and EB, definently any of the Legionary cohort units, because they are the elite infantry units of the known world. Cretan Archers also come high on the list.

Warluster

12-12-2006, 06:39

Remeber why, I would also like Aquerbisers, because there GUNS!

naut

12-12-2006, 07:22

Actually Billmen from MTW, because they epitomise the English professionalism in the fielding of armies.

warking

12-13-2006, 10:52

ok you guys kool get more people to come and tell me their fav units and why! COOL!:2thumbsup:

warking

12-13-2006, 11:08

oh and by the way my favourites are them good old camels and the good little wardogs and elephents becaus they are very strong and the camels becaus they are one of my fav animals!:2thumbsup:

RtkBedivere

12-13-2006, 16:37

goota be pigs what can i say. Nothing is better the greasing a pig and then roasting it...

macsen rufus

12-13-2006, 18:19

Swiss halberdiers in MTW1 - anti-cav and armour-piercing bonus, quite fast, good morale (unlike standard halbs), silly helmets. What more can you ask? :laugh4:

warking

12-13-2006, 21:44

i also have to agree with the pigs their preety colol to!:2thumbsup:

Mithrandir

12-14-2006, 01:14

Camels (MTW + VI) since they can beat any cavelry without any problems.
Always.

Martok

12-14-2006, 03:04

Spanish Jinnettes - They eat Almohad Urban Milita for breakfast! ~D With their armour-piercing javelins and excellent speed, they're well-equipped to take out heavy infantry while staying out of harm's way.

Gazi Infantry - Spurred on by their faith in Allah, these guys charge their enemies with suicidal courage! Great for flanking attacks and chewing up enemy infantry.

Huscarles - Heavily armed & armoured Vikings with very bad tempers! Virtually indestructible unless ganged up on by multiple units.

Bedouin Camel Warriors - Cheap, reliable, get a bonus in deserts, and horse units suffer a morale penalty when fighting them. Victory in my Egyptian campaigns would not be possible without them!

warking

12-14-2006, 06:59

GO CAMELS:2thumbsup:

Rurik the Chieftain

12-14-2006, 22:59

Varangian Guard (MTW until they get fixed in M2TW)-Barbarian Fury+Civilized Discipline= Ownage

Berserkers(All games)-Those crazy, crazy guys.

Pretty much all quality pikemen.

Vardariotai- A little WTF as far as history goes, but just too darn good to pass up.

Polish Nobles-They just shred and shred with their crazy javelins.

Eastern Infanty- Men in pink hoodies= humor

RTKMercurius

12-15-2006, 18:05

Dismounted Gothics.... reminds me of a couple scenes in Excalibur... :)

GrimeReaper

12-15-2006, 23:47

Druids! I just love their chanting.
The Priests in BI were fun too Anything that makes an noise really

Yanar

12-16-2006, 17:17

Aventuros, because they go poke-poke-poke and everything dies. :beam:

French Curaisser

12-16-2006, 23:27

Elephants, I am suprised no one has said this yet, chargeing through anything. BOOM! Squah this gut, CRASH! They fall over! Its awesome effects, just them crashing through seas of man.

warking

12-18-2006, 03:24

yes if you read one of my messages i said i like elephants to:2thumbsup:

RtkBedivere

12-18-2006, 03:45

I never added my favorite MTW/M2TW unit i think im going with polish nobels cause they are devistating to almost anything on the field.

SgtPepper

12-18-2006, 22:26

It has to be the Sherwood Archers, but just because they have feathers in their hats. Oh yeah and on a other note, they can also shoot some heavy damage arrows.

warking

12-18-2006, 23:41

Awesome guys keep on telling me your fav units or get your friends to!:2thumbsup:

Kralizec

12-19-2006, 00:00

In EB and RTR (both mods for RTW): Anything that has pikes, and missile cavalry.

In MTW: probably Berber Camels and Mounted Sergeants.

Warluster

12-19-2006, 01:15

In Chivalry Total War is probal Noble Knights, they look awesome in all that armour, plus they kick all! Lances,swords, with arrows flying past, uh....:pleased: :wings:

IrishArmenian

12-19-2006, 02:13

Dvor: Heavy Calvary with a bow? What more could you want?
Monster Ribualt: So many barrels!
Cossack Musketeers: Class unit! Musket and melee attack to boot!
Retinue Longbowmen: Love the longbow
Camel Gunners: Gunpowder, on a camel!
Boyar Sons: Javelin throwers able to finish off their opponents.
Jinetes: faster moving Boyar Sons with more ammo instead of armour
Cossack Calvary: Steppe Archers who are relatively inexpensive and much better than Kazaks.
Cataphract Archers in RTW
Cataphracts in RTW
Almogavars in MTW

SCRIBE

12-20-2006, 04:51

Varangian Guard (MTW until they get fixed in M2TW)-Barbarian Fury+Civilized Discipline= Ownage

Indeed,

Kataphracts (MTW) -
cause the soldier that resembles a rumbling and charging medieval aged oven PWNS

Steppe Heavy Cav (MTW) -
Armoured, Ability to fight well, Horse Archer capabilities - Don't mess...

Longbowmen - longbows...nuff said

Almughavars - interesting and rare unit

Italian Infantry - now thats a bunch of tough spicy meatballs...

I'll remember the rest...

Fighting-Till-Done

12-20-2006, 16:39

In RTW, i love Egypt... Since the release of the patches they are not as strong...BUT, they are still a great faction to use and hard to deal with if used correctly.

Caius

12-20-2006, 18:05

In RTW, if you love archers, use Cretan Archers.
Urban Cohort
Praetorian Cavalry
Barbarian Noble Cavalry
Rhodian Slingers
And...
War elephants

marcusbrutus

12-20-2006, 21:10

I love units that can make it through a whole game without many losses so...

MTW - Longbowmen (Welsh, of course)

RTW - Wardogs, release the hounds!

Seamus Fermanagh

12-21-2006, 04:58

In vanilla RTW, I always liked the following combo:

Archers, Dogs, and a Pike block.

Pike block goes up to the bridge entrance and waits. As the enemy begins to cross, release the hounds through the pikes. The hounds won't kill many, but who cares? The totally clog up the bridge giving your archers scads of time to thin out the attackers -- who are met with pikes when they finally get done chopping doggies.

:beam:

Overall, for the vanilla units, I just loved Illyrians. Denarius for denarius, there were no better troops in the field.

caravel

12-21-2006, 13:48

MTW/VI

1) Futuwwa
2) Janissary Infantry
3) Ottoman Infantry
4) Saracen Infantry
5) Turcoman Horse
6) Armenian Heavy Cavalry
7) Ghazi Infantry
8) Bedouin Camel® Warriors

Camel® and the "CAMELS! CAMELS! CAMELS!®" logo are registered trademarks of Mithrandir® Corporation.

Martok

12-22-2006, 00:59

Wow, Caravel, I had no idea you were so fond of the Muslim units. I suddenly understand why they're receiving extra attention in your new mod, though. ~:)

Camel® and the "CAMELS! CAMELS! CAMELS!®" logo are registered trademarks of Mithrandir® Corporation.
Definitely my biggest laugh of the week! Thanks, buddy. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Sensei Warrior

12-22-2006, 02:06

Whatever unit I am using at the moment. To be a little more specific about units I have liked in the past.

The TOP 10 LIST of fav units in MTW/VI:

10. Celtic Warriors - never question a horde of smelly, half-naked Celts.
9. Spanish Jinettes - but only when I play them, these are the most hated unit when the bad guys have them.
8. Swabian Swordsmen - the mostly unknown German version of Huscarles.
7. Steppe Hvy Cavalry - Hvy Cav with bows ... yummy.
6. Billmen - AKA mobile can-openers
5. Jannisary Hvy Inf - AKA Turkish can-openers
4. Jannisary Infantry - along with 5 the only 2 units the Turks will ever need.
3. Longbowmen - nuff said.
2. Camels - because I'm to scared of Mithrandir to leave them out. ~;)

... and finally Sensei's most favorite unit in MTW/VI:

1. Urban Militia - but only when led by Tancred de Normandie, and especially after I have taken over a provence with Iron and have made a Master Weaponsmith and sometimes a Master Armourer. Sometimes he's the only unit I really need.

caravel

12-22-2006, 09:55

Wow, Caravel, I had no idea you were so fond of the Muslim units. I suddenly understand why they're receiving extra attention in your new mod, though. ~:)

I rarely play anything but Muslim factions or the Byzantine, with the occasional Novgorod or Hungarian campaign. Of the catholic units I would have to go with:

1) Chivalric Foot Knights
2) Billmen
3) Longbows
4) Jinetes
5) Vikings

For the orthodox it's simple:

1) Trebizond Archers
2) Pr0n Cavalry

Darkarbiter

12-22-2006, 10:41

Macedon's Kestrophone that I think are only in RTR.

TheBritonBasher

12-23-2006, 22:33

I like British light chariots and head hurlers. I like the Britons too. I like to bash peoples skulls in with them, that is why my name is what it is.

Czar Alexsandr

12-24-2006, 02:31

Ah my favorite unit.

Boyar from MTW 1. They guys were good heavy cav and had the common sense to let the enemy eat arrows before engaging.

Next probably my Steepe Cav. Nothing beats the knights of Rohan attack!

And last would be my Bulgarian Brigands. I like them. They're better than Trebizond and don't ask for much money. Cause they're all Bulgarian serial killers?

Oh from Shogun.. No-Dachi swordsmen. None can beat the Shimazu Kamikazies!

I don't have MTW 2 yet and I've never played RTW.

Bellum

12-24-2006, 08:11

Haven't played any of the other factions yet, but I'd have to say that right now my fav TW units are the Billmen from M2:TW. I just love how everyone seems to hate them, and how I none the less manage to use them so effectively.

naut

12-24-2006, 09:33

2) Pr0n Cavalry
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Oh my, that made me cry with laughter. Its so true aswell.

Byzantine Emperor

12-24-2006, 19:37

MTW: Billmen, Longbowmen, Kataphraktoi, Gothic Knights.

RTW: Legions, Cataphracts (again), Armoured Hoplites, Berserkers.

M2TW: I'm not sure yet, but I do like Byzantine Infantry.

Kralizec

12-25-2006, 20:42

2) Pr0n Cavalry

Probably the most overpriced unit in the game.

warking

12-25-2006, 22:29

ok you huys nice now plz get your friends to come and tell me theirs !!!!!

p.s. i love all forms of archers!

sincerly ... warking ...................................:2thumbsup:

Caius

12-25-2006, 23:39

Love the Urban cohort, but they didnt exist.

{Don}_Sky{Mh}

12-26-2006, 17:39

Portuguese Arques because they have a pretty good ranged attack and are fair in combat compared to other ranged units.

Bagn! (It's supposed to be spelled that way) :D

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

12-26-2006, 18:07

in VI, Swiss Armoued Pikemen and Anything Swiss :) :)

Kralizec

12-27-2006, 14:10

Love the Urban cohort, but they didnt exist.

They did exist, actually. Just not during RTW's timeframe (neither did the Praetorians), and they never numerous.

Severous

12-28-2006, 00:04

Egyptian chariot generals. (RTW)

Good with missiles. Spiked wheels make them effective killers of enemy generals and cavalry.

Shahed

12-30-2006, 14:17

M2:TW
Turkomans
Kapikulu
Mongol Horse Archers
Khan's Guard

caravel

12-30-2006, 15:45

Probably the most overpriced unit in the game.
They're the same training cost as Feudal Knights though they are more expensive to support. Statisticaly Feudal Knights have 2 points more charge and 1 point less armour. Overall Feudal Knights are better, though as the Byzantines they're about the best shock Cavalry you can get hold of, they also get the valour bonus in Nicaea. Once teched up and with morale upgrades from religious buildings they are quite a potent force, though a somewhat overpriced one. Kataphraktoi are quite simply just too slow. I've never found much of a use for them.

PureFodder

12-31-2006, 03:52

Camel Gunners - run and gun action :2thumbsup:

Warluster

12-31-2006, 04:16

In M2TW it is defintly Grand Bombard's and Musketeers!

Murfios

01-01-2007, 02:05

Happy New Year. :balloon2:

-Murfios

baron_Leo

01-01-2007, 21:26

Happy New year! And if you read my sig you'll know what my fav unit is:-)

Sebastian Seth

01-02-2007, 01:44

For RTW:BI
1: Ciblinari + Kathaprankoi
- Quite expensive but turns the fortunes of war for me.

2: Sarmatian Virgin Cavarly + Bosboran Heavy Infantry.
- Cheap, effective & sexy.

PapaNasty

01-03-2007, 20:07

for RTW-

Cretan Archers, Numidian Cavalry, Armoured Hoplites, Praetorian Cavalry, Onagers, Phaerohs Bowmen (oops spelling hehe). Obviously not all in the same army though ;)

Czar Alexsandr

01-06-2007, 04:16

Doh! I have Medival Total War 2 now but seem to have forgotten to name my favorite units!

Tsar's Guard.

Dvor Cavalry.
Cossack Cavalry.

Cossack Muskets.

Longbowmen of all sorts.

Anything on a horse that shoots bows!

Cangrande

01-06-2007, 10:29

Knights of Santiago, don't they play in Division 2?

Innocentius

01-06-2007, 16:39

All the longbow and unique polearm* units from MTW.

*Billmen, Swiss Halberdiers, Janissary Heavy Infantry, Voynuk Bladesmen.

warking

01-18-2007, 10:52

Alright you guys good work~;) and i hope more ppl come and tell me theirs!

sincerly...........................warking.............................:2thumbsup:

Lysander13

01-20-2007, 07:42

In XGM for RTW: ATG's Spartans are my favorites.
Followed by Athenian Marines and The Corinthian Sacred Band.

Artorius Maximus

01-20-2007, 08:23

I vote Hastati, simply because they are THE most effective unit ( in my opinion, of course ), in the early game as the Romans, specifically for me, the Julii, the Hastati dominate most other light Infantries, and the javelins ( pila ) they throw make them even more effective! :beam:

Gardon Gnome

01-26-2007, 00:44

my favorite units from MTW2 would have to be dismounted gothic knights and dismounted feudal knights.

Quintus Of Pompeii

02-01-2007, 19:36

For the greeks i really like the armoured hoplites ~:thumb:
for the romans i like the onagers ~:thumb:
and i really like any kinda archers ~:thumb:

Quintus

Maurus

02-02-2007, 03:48

From Rome and BI: legionnaires (silver shield or standard), and Sagitarii (this guys allow me to take on hordes on the open field :2thumbsup: )

From Medieval 2: Sword and bucler men, they are not only cheap, but they are also light infantry so they dont tire as easy as heavy infantry, plus their stats are pretty close to the knights :yes:

bamff

02-02-2007, 07:28

Only have MTW, but my faves from that (in no particular order) are:

Huscarles (2 legged tanks, ready to hack through pretty much anything in early)

Turcopoles (Okay - so I have only really played as Cath factions - ho doubt I would soon grow to love some of the muslim and ortho horse archer units as well!)

Steppe Cavalry (just love having such a speedy unit to zap around the flanks or ride down routers)

Fyrdmen (great to have in early)

Don Esteban

02-02-2007, 13:24

Horse archers of all types. perfect to send in as the first wave of an attack to sften up the enemy, break their formation and then withdraw quickly to be replaced with melee units to finish of whatever's left.

The Foolish Horseman

02-03-2007, 16:16

Spartan Hoplites all the way cos of their elite strength and they are more versatile than most pikemen. Plus spartans are trained to be warriors from their first breath as spartans had slaves that cultivated agriculture

The Foolish Horseman

02-03-2007, 16:17

For the greeks i really like the armoured hoplites ~:thumb:
for the romans i like the onagers ~:thumb:
and i really like any kinda archers ~:thumb:

Quintus

BTW quintus too much usage of the same smilie in the same post can be really frustarating and is againsth the posting ettiquette ( not too much smiley usage)

XI Augusta

General-Winter

02-05-2007, 03:48

Shogun&MI: No-Dachi Samurai. Anything that swings a big sword is damn cool by my estimation.

Medieval&VI: Havn't played much of it but so far i've taken to the viking Huscarls.

Rome&BI: Most definaetly the berserkirgang. They remind me of family... ~:eek:

Noir

02-05-2007, 04:33

STW:

-Yari Samurai: easily one of the most underrated TW units ever, but at the same time one of the most useful (i've often thought to mod them in MTW). If supported by missiles and cavalry, and properly upgraded, it might take even monks or no-dachis for a one-way trip to the gates of hell.

-Warrior Monks: need-i explain further? Unleash them at the right time and place and be ready with your yari cavalry to collect a few hundred He-eads!
True zen moments.

MTW:

-Any medium/heavy cavalry: let's face it: all those sword and axe units are nice, but they count to the glipitiglopos to protect them and to charge the enemy rear; few times they accomplish anything alone - if ever. Try playing without the "long knives" and let me know how you find it.:indian_chief:

Laman

02-05-2007, 07:36

In RTW, Levy Pikemen, cheap, expendable, still fairly effective.

455trt43trg

02-05-2007, 07:58

All horse archers.

Omanes Alexandrapolites

02-05-2007, 08:13

In EB I like the Thorakitai Argyraspidai. They are high costing yet they are mighty effective troops due to their strong ability to throw javelins and to act as elite spearmen when they have to go into hand-to-hand combat.

In R:TW I liked the Roman Legionary Cohorts. They were the middle range of the Roman unit roster, not being to expensive yet still being extremely powerful and versatile with their missile weapon and their hand-to-hand sword attack. Even better they were very well armoured, able to beat off most attacks with their huge shield and robust Lorica Segmenta.

I don't really have a favourite unit in Barbarian Invasion or in M:TW. I haven't really played enough of them to have time to decide. Although in M:TW I am starting to have a thing for Byzantine Infantry!

phoenix[illusion]

02-06-2007, 19:21

Heavy infantry. I just like their shields, and swords.:smash:
I hate archers, but not horse archers.

mightilyoats

02-07-2007, 08:24

In one of my early campaigns as the Julii I sent my most experienced army into Macedon. I also had a couple of units of archers in this army. All of my tactics are heavily dependant on missile units, especially archer units. Since I was far away from my advanced military bases, my archer units started getting depleted (I always try to protect them as much as possible)

Somewhere in the Macedonian teritories I happened upon a band of Mercenary Cretan Archers. What a relief! So, I combined all my depleted archery units and added my new Cretan Archers.

The next battle I was defending against a large Macedonian force that contained their faction leader and two additional family members. They were going all out to stop the Roman threat in their lands.

My troops were lined up in a defensive formation, with all my archers poised and ready to unload buckets of arrows on the enemy. As we were waiting for the Macedonians to approach, I suddenly and quite unexpectedly noticed that one of my archer units were firing very early... It was those Cretans!

Their superior range and firepower quickly outshined all of my - experienced - Roman Archers. I was amazed!

As the Mecedonian King proudly made his way up the hill we were defending, he drew the attention of my Cretans. On that day he was shot right out of his saddle by the mercenaries, before he could even charge!

After that battle my general scoured the Greek country side for more of these Cretans, thusly replacing the Roman Archers. These mercenaries played a pivotal role in passifying the Greek peoples and securing the region for the glory of Rome!

Since then I have had a tremendous soft spot for these skilled bowmen. In fact, I am a loyal fan and can never pass up an opportunity to hire any of them as any faction.

This has been a long post (sorry for that), so let me end by saying:

Cretan Aaaarchers!!

pevergreen

02-07-2007, 08:35

Anything with great armour...

Armour is great, that pretty much it.

KamikazeHunter

02-07-2007, 08:40

I'm torn between Dacian Shock Troops and Persian Archers... Well, basically stuff that can run fast, hit home hard, and cause a lot of damage in a short time.

Drunkin General

02-07-2007, 18:38

MTW2 - Cossack Musketeers

I just fought a seige assault against the papal dog, the papal army was very strong, loads of swiss guard & dismounted broken lances. I had 1 cossack musketeer get 694 kills & they still had ammo left & lost no men:dizzy2:

BI - Plumbattarii(probably spelt wrong)

The animation looked really good & you could see the stored darts on the inside of their shields. I think they are probably the best unit in a TW game as they where strong heavy infantry with good stats that had an amazing missile attack & plenty of ammo.

VI - Joms no need to say more especially when the unit got the pride vice.

MTW - JHI or CFK

STW MI - Mongol heavy cav or for normal campaign Nag cav where a great addition

STW - Samurai archers simply awesome in mass with weather permitting:wall:

germanpeon

02-08-2007, 03:07

Any kind of phalanx infantry really, but especially Armoured Hoplites. Ok, ok, Spartans may seem better, but my strategy is to use my hoplites to engage enemy, and when they rout (after impaling themselves like idiots with their initial charge and losing their entire first rank of men in one second flat) I chase them down with my cavalry. It works better with Armoured Hoplites because of their higher defense value. I also like Militia Hoplites alot. They seem wildly imbalanced to me because of the fact that they can beat most, if not all, tier one and two infantry, and because they can be obtained so early and easily.

Lorenzo_H

02-11-2007, 10:52

From Medieval 2: Sword and bucler men, they are not only cheap, but they are also light infantry so they dont tire as easy as heavy infantry, plus their stats are pretty close to the knights :yes:

Yeah I love Sword and Buckler men. They are cheaper (inc. upkeep) than knights, have the same excellent stats as Dismounted Knights and have +2 Morale over Knights. They are the perfect offensive infantry.

King of Bavaria

02-16-2007, 00:04

I just have MTV+VI

Favourite units:

- Steppe Heavy Cavalry : Very nice, first fire all the arrows, and then charge the enemy!

- Huscarls : Well armoured, angry vikings with axes, does anything cooler exist?:viking:

- Szekely : Fast, good horsearchers, and not as good as dead if forced into melee.
Would be my only favourite, if the computer would be able to skirmish without pertmanent personal control.:dizzy2:

Ossie The Great

02-16-2007, 18:11

for rtw probally parthian cataphract's :bow:

Julian the apostate

02-16-2007, 18:26

for stw: warrior monks
for mtw: varangians
for rtw: forester warband
for EB: agriani (getic mountain archers)
in real life: ninjas

LuckyDog Trojan

02-16-2007, 20:22

Speaking from a R:TW perspective: As much as possible, I NEVER send an army on a mission without ranged missile (archer) support. As attested to by others on this thread, used effectively, they can really soften up your opponent prior to engagement with your main battle line.

And then again... going into battle without 2 or 3 units of legionary cavalry is asking for trouble...

warking

02-17-2007, 00:57

Wow you guys, you are doing great we have done 4 pages already, well on our 4th anyway good job

sincerly .................. warking .......................:2thumbsup:

Xehh II

02-17-2007, 06:50

My favorite units are Highland Nobles and Norse War Clerics. You might laugh at these but I have only played short campaigns as Danes and Scots. I also like Scots Pike Militia, Norse Swordsmen and Noble Pikemen.

Beefy187

02-19-2007, 10:54

Mine would be Seleucid Cataphract from RTW
my mighty full stack cataphract army killed any AI army on field battle 5 min or less
that was fun

Skyline Pete

02-20-2007, 09:54

I don't really have a fave unit specifically but rather I just love it when a good battlefield plan bears fruit.

Like having the enemy target my schiltroms while my heavy infantry flank around it and engage from the sides. Then my cav who have been flanking hit from the rear.

This is all while archers are pouring arrows into the enemy.

RoadKill

02-21-2007, 04:28

Of course PEASENTS :smash: :smash: :smash:
I crushed HRE with 8 full stacks of peasents once :whip:

Glyndwr in the Soke

02-21-2007, 17:07

Okay, so which were the best moments in games, and which unit was responsible?

STW:

Simple arquebusiers, waiting at a bridge and chewing up all those fancy hard units trying to come across.

MTW:
5) Vikings - The unit that has it all. Easy to reach, cheap, with a bit of bite, and some staying power. Jack-of-all-trades-bar-none-unit, thankyouverymuch. Unfortunately, there is a Danish monopoly.
4) Jinetes - Take a great target (Camels), 2 units of Jinetes, and a bit of micromanagement. See Camels vanish before your eyes at speeds hitherto unheard of. Works a treat with clod-hopping AUM, too.
3) Steppe Cavalry - Soooooo fast, sooo hard hitting, soooo easy to get. Many great memories. Thanks, guys.
2) Armenian Heavy Cavalry - Muslim faction? Afraid to close for real combat? Stuck in a rut with your poncey Ghulams? Bored of arrowing all and sundry into submission? Get your real "workhorse" boys in Asia Minor and hit those dastardly Christians where it hurts most!
1) Dismounted Chivalric Knights/Royal Knights 2nd phase - Put into woods, let GHHC come, watch cans being opened. I had 20 Royals of this type batter a complete variety of foes to pulp. A lot of bang for your buck, especially if you prefer the defensive approach, like me.

VI:
Honorary mention goes out to the godfather of all those RTW legionaries:
x) Bonnachts - Let the Vikings come with there clunking heavies! If those heavy spears really find their targets, the battle is over. :2thumbsup:
y) Huscarls - Chopchop. End of story.
z) Welsh Rangers - Longbows. 60 of them. Can hide anywhere. Can fight up close. Ouch! ~;p

Xehh II

02-23-2007, 10:44

I have to change my post to Dismounted Norman Knights, these guys slaughter everyone.

Punicus

02-24-2007, 03:47

In RTW, my favorite unit has got to be the Phalanx Pikemen. I think you get a lot of value out of them, with their numbers, phalanx formation and decent attack/defence.

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:15

I only have MTW but my favourite unit would have to be the kataphraktoi...when they charge home, they destroy the field. But most of my army will be made up of byzantine infantry (usually 60-70% of my forces are them).

By the way, warking, that is one very strange name you have....like WAH-KING.

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:16

Finally you have done it! took you klong time thoughp

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:20

I try to be funny where possible, so I post on potentially funny topics earlier. This was not at the top of my possibilities. 'Cept one thing.

Warking, please learn to spell the word 'what' - it is very frustrating when people say wat.

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:22

Yes it is and what other funny topic have you been on. Don't say mine. It will hurt my feelings.

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:26

The charging one, your one about HRE or something, and the one about the guy who was confused about the hourglass. Oh, and the Narnia one. Sort of.

Why?

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:27

That hourglass one was funny.

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:30

Thank you, thank you very much! I'm here 'til Friday!

(well, I'll still be here after that, but don't point that out, Xehh! I know you're thinking it!)

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:32

Friday is tomorrow.

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:37

And the Oscar for Best Stater of the Obvious goes to....Xehh II for his role in 'Sense of Humour'!

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:39

What? Was that the bit about com english?

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:44

No, I thought I was replying to a different topic. I meant your comment about "Friday is tomorrow."

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:45

This is wat are you rfaverite units noyt sence of humoer

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:49

Yes, we've established that fact you fool.

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 04:54

We should stop using this topic mack fun of me on youer one one.

Lord Cazaric

03-01-2007, 04:58

Having a bad day of typing?

OK, I'll quit making fun of you now.

Xehh II

03-01-2007, 05:00

this is for people that want to talk about their faverite units, not listen to you being mean to me.:shame:

Warluster

03-02-2007, 07:00

Yous just like spammed this thread out of service.

Xehh II

03-02-2007, 08:38

Not my fault, blame Cazaric. He was the one that started it.

Caerfanan

03-02-2007, 10:25

Uh, I don't really have a favourite unit, but two days ago, I was very surprised by medium cavalry built in Defnas with a master horse breeder (max available) (viking campaign): as the buildings give valour bonus, the 3 valour make them probably better than royal bodyguards, and they're 40....

Martok

03-02-2007, 23:17

Guys, I *strongly* urge you to follow Caerfanan's example and return to the topic. Right now, you're just spamming and derailing this thread for no reason. Cease and desist immediately. :stare:

Uh, I don't really have a favourite unit, but two days ago, I was very surprised by medium cavalry built in Defnas with a master horse breeder (max available) (viking campaign): as the buildings give valour bonus, the 3 valour make them probably better than royal bodyguards, and they're 40....
Are you talking about the Mounted Nobles? If so, then yes I agree that they can be quite effective. In addition, I've found that even plain Horsemen can do surprisingly well if given the opportunity. You just need to make sure they're limited to flanking and don't charge the enemy head-on. :yes:

warking

03-03-2007, 02:47

Awesome guys this is turning out to a really good thing so i'll tell you this - i like all sorts of archers, dogs, pigs becaus they have good range and they scare off the enemy, by the way go elephants!!!!!!!!!

sincerly ........................ warking ..........................:2thumbsup:

Xehh II

03-03-2007, 03:34

What do dogs and pigs do? How do they help in a war?

Warluster

03-03-2007, 03:44

they don't help, just look awesome, and they are good weapons against Cavalry and Elephants. Pigs=Scare Elephants Dogs=Scare Horses

Martok

03-03-2007, 09:16

I found Wardogs to be generally useful against most troop types (although heavy infantry generally held up fairly well against them.) Those puppies are simply a canine "fire-and-forget" missile -- just sic 'em on the enemy and let them do their thing. Yes, they're a fantasy unit, but even I have to admit they were fun to watch. ~D

OldSchool

03-03-2007, 11:17

For MTW/VI:

Some of mine have already been mentioned. Namely:

Swabian Swordsmen
Heavy Steppe Cavalry
Armenian Cavalry

Some others I didn't see yet:
1) Viking Landsmen (upgraded vikings, cheap and easy to build in Scandinavia by any faction.)

2) Avar Nobles (Disciplined, early era heavy cavalry with great armour and defense. Only made in Moldavia.)

3) Lithuanian Cavalry (Not really worth the building requirements, but an often over-looked feature is being able to dismount as archers. Which is great if you don't want to drag around a unit of archers, just in case you might need them).

4) Woodsmen (use them in the woods, or send them around the flanks and deliver one of the best (and cheapest) armor piercing charges in the game. All at a production cost of 75 florins, plus a valour bonus in Lithuania. I love these guys.)

Oleander Ardens

03-03-2007, 14:15

1. Kerns: How I love to see Husacerls armed to the teeth die under a hail of missiles from barefooted peasants

OA

TheJace

03-04-2007, 03:43

Does anyone know why Janisary Heavy Inf. are as good as they are? There states are comical but that didn't stop them from mopping the floor with Spanish Conquistadors in my custom battle tests.

Lord Cazaric

03-04-2007, 03:47

What do dogs and pigs do? How do they help in a war?

In actually history, war-dogs were used to tear out the throats of the enemy etc. Such a pleasant way to go, don't you think?

Caerfanan

03-05-2007, 14:06

Are you talking about the Mounted Nobles? If so, then yes I agree that they can be quite effective. In addition, I've found that even plain Horsemen can do surprisingly well if given the opportunity. You just need to make sure they're limited to flanking and don't charge the enemy head-on. :yes:

Not even the mounted nobles, Martok, the plain simple medium cavalry. Yes those guys you don't involve in any fight because they die too quickly!!!
EDIT: just to be sure, the 'you' doesn't mean 'Martok', I should've used 'one' instead.

:laugh4:

I was really surprised, if you build in Defnas the best horse breeding building, you have valour 3 Medium Cav. I don't know if there is a place which produce +1 valour Mounted nobles... And If I'm correct, the Medium Cav is 6/3/0/4 (Charge, atk, def, morale) and nobles 6/4/2/8, but the 3 valour med cav are 6/6/3/10!!!! So if there is no way to start the mounted noble with +1valour, they are surpassed by those cav!!! (and actually, with the +1, they're equalled...)

And another piece of candy: there is iron in Defnas....

And you are more than correct: as for every cavalry unit in VI, charging head-on is very dangerous :smash: I remember my first game with VI, I unleashed royal bodyguards on an infantry unit, and was taking care of something else, thinking the bodyguards a bit like those in normal MTW. A few moments later, I stood corrected: only 2 guys remained of the unit, and they were loosing. A shock when you're used to those "invincible" knights...

Uesugi Kenshin

03-06-2007, 09:31

Does anyone know why Janisary Heavy Inf. are as good as they are? There states are comical but that didn't stop them from mopping the floor with Spanish Conquistadors in my custom battle tests.

The Janissary Corps were the elite of the Ottoman Empire, arguably the most powerful single nation/empire of the time period, and the Janissary Heavy Infantry represent some of the most heavily armed and highly trained soldiers of this Corps. If you're talking about MTWII I can't say anything about the specific unit, but in MTW they were one of the best if not the best infantry unit in the game, and they certainly deserved to be one of the best infantry units.

Caerfanan

03-06-2007, 10:23

The Janissary Corps were the elite of the Ottoman Empire, arguably the most powerful single nation/empire of the time period, and the Janissary Heavy Infantry represent some of the most heavily armed and highly trained soldiers of this Corps. If you're talking about MTWII I can't say anything about the specific unit, but in MTW they were one of the best if not the best infantry unit in the game, and they certainly deserved to be one of the best infantry units.
Well, aren't they Armour piercing and anti cav' unit? This would provide them with bonuses you wouldn't see in the stats... (checking on the unit coparison's tool)...

Totally. They are 4/5/3/3/8 (charge, attack, defense, armour, morale). BUT: they get +3 attack and +1 defense against cavalry. And they're referenced to have a bonus versus armoured unit (meaning a part of the enemy's armour is ignored)

So those guy could probably kill a lot of horses...

Oh, that's what they did against the french knights in Nicopoli, 1396 AD.

seireikhaan

03-06-2007, 22:27

Well, I play MTW: VI, my favorite units include JHI and JI, Armenian Heavy cavalry, Avar Nobles, Szekely, Nizaris, and Swiss halberdiers. Also, I love to use naptha throwers on occasion, those guys can be a blast to use(literally!)

warking

03-09-2007, 11:06

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Lord Cazaric

03-09-2007, 22:51

I attempted to sign up for that, but it didn't download properly.

Xehh II

03-10-2007, 01:38

I've had that for a while but it won't update, so I can't use it.

Lord Cazaric

03-10-2007, 03:12

You and me seem to be prone to computer problems, don't we? :wall:

Xehh II

03-10-2007, 09:49

You and me seem to be prone to computer problems, don't we? :wall:
Yes it seems we do.

zoyclem

03-10-2007, 19:39

Other than a good general, the best unit depends on the circumstance. With me, I try to have a good mix of forces, although I do have a fondness for missile units and cavalry.

I’m predominately playing Medieval II nowadays, and usually as the Byzantine Empire, so I found the Vardariotai (a combination of cavalry and missile unit) to be a nice compliment to any army. I’ve used them frequently to draw out the enemy when they are entrenched, or to move behind the enemy lines to where they can fire on the enemy general’s bodyguard, or on his artillery units, and later charge them.

The fact that Vardariotai have dual offensive skills comes in handy, because you can use them as missile units early on and then later rely on them for melee combat. They are relatively cheap and can be recruited early in a campaign, so overall they are a decent unit to possess.

warking

03-12-2007, 07:21

ok you guys now we are all doing really well in this thread so lets try and get to 8 pages! ay wat do ya say huh? tell all ya friends to come over here and tell us theres awesome you guys keep at it.

P.S. i would also recommend 'Call Of Duty2 which has great graphics and is preety cheap now, and aslo has a good multiplayer system!

sincerely.............................warking............................:2thumbsup:

Athena the Femme Fatale

03-12-2007, 20:17

Gotta be Noble Scythian Horse Archers. Mobility, firepower, good morale, powerful melee.

Hasdrubal

03-13-2007, 18:32

My favorite unit is the Clibinarii from the Sassanids (BI). They are good quality bowmen, heavily armoured and mounted on heavily armoured horses. Thus they can outshoot pretty much everybody. Then, when you want to charge, use their "alt" attack for clubs, and rout the enemy!

seireikhaan

03-14-2007, 21:45

Ok, I suppose I'll elaborate on my choices previous:

JHI: Really, do I have to say? Pure, utter domination.

Janissary Infantry: Archers who are equivalent to CMAA in hand to hand, but w/ less armor.

Armenian Heavy Cavalry: Easy to start pumping them out w/ extra 2 valor, makes them awesome, especially in early. Also, they have a great charge.

Avar Nobles: Khwarzmian Cavalry, but available much earlier and are out of the desert. Plus they're disciplined.

Szekely: HA w/ good morale, good melee, a good charge(for a HA), available VERY early, and extremely fast. In combination w/ AN, Hungarians can field all cav armies until the high period w/ good success.

Nizaris: Bow w/ shield makes them good duelers. Crazy high attack with an insane charge bonus(it's even better than ghazis), so you can use them as great flankers once you're done firing arrow.

Swiss Halberdiers: Pretty much everything about them is good, except for the charge bonus, but they get bonuses against armor and cav, making them extremely versatile. Much more useful for a regular army than ordinary halberdiers.

And a recent addition, Gothic Knights: An unbelievable sledgehammer, everything just seems to bounce off them. Did a test run of lancers vs GK and the lancers just bounced off, even though they went to a wedge.

Mother Yoda

03-15-2007, 02:13

I would have to say that Cataparhcts (sorry for the spelling error) horse archers, elephanhts and chairiots are the best becasue in terms of sheer damage they can cause espally when it comes to killing spearmen.

RabbitDynamite

03-22-2007, 20:00

Vanilla: Sacred Band. Look awesome and fight awesome too
EB: Gestate. Drugged up nudist killing machines. What's not to love.
M2: Retinue Longbowmen. Like a D&D Ranger on a medieval battlefield

pockettank

03-24-2007, 22:50

ok on r:tw i say my top five (not in order) are:

1.Spartan hoplites... i tried them like in 300 exept i had 320 men and the enemy had like 3000 soldiers -hillmen/eastern infantry- i killed 83% of them lost 13 men V/H battle 9 expeirence/3weapon/3armor for all units spartan or other. then i sent them against 7 full selucid armys of elephants lost 298 men but still won with 78% of enemy dead same as before exp/wpn/armor face it they pwn ~:pimp:

2.Pharohs bowmen... ultimate ranged :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: they slaughtered the spartans unfortanitly but thats like the only thing that could also they look cool

3. legionary first cohort... that eagle must rly give a morale boost if peasents dont run away when by them :verycool:

4.Cathaprchts -the armored horse guys-... there charge is super deadly one charge killed atleast 80 first cohort and caused THE COHORT TO ROUT!!!!!! :wall: :whip: makes me mad i had the cohort ><

5.PIGS!!!! face it nothing beats pigs on a battlefield ~:pimp: exept every unit but other pigs :laugh4:

pockettank

03-24-2007, 23:00

oh yeah for M2TW top 5 -again not in order- are as follows:

1.Genoese Crossbow Militia... killed a full stack army w/ 2 units of these guys.. enough said :beam:

2.Gendarmes -French special unit horse ppl :beam: - anywho same as cathprachts for r:tw awsome charge :charge:

3.CAMELS!!they scare horses

4.peasents... CILMGFC/DIOCUOMDFBTNPCALIB! cheap inexpensive largly massabile good for creating/disbanding in other cities unit of mass destuction favored by the NPC and lives in boxes! :boxedin:

5.native mercenaries in the "New World"... they helped me kill the ppl in north america -victory all provinces owned- RUSSIA PWNS!!!!1 :oops: :wall: :whip:

PIE!?

King of Kings

03-24-2007, 23:34

My favourite are Cathaprchts, they look and sre great.Same goes for Praetorian Cavalry

Vlad The Impaler

03-24-2007, 23:52

buddhist monks

Martok

03-25-2007, 07:13

Good answer, Vlad! I should've thought of that one myself. :bow:

Vorenus

03-27-2007, 02:21

Mine would have to be a Spartan unit from a RTW mod called XGM or extended greek mod. The spartans just look so awsome and are obviously killing machines.

The spartan or Early legionary cohort, cant decide.

https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3546/atgbronzespartan2iwvl3.jpg

warking

03-27-2007, 11:18

Ok you guys good job!!!!!!! we have have 149 posts including this one!!!!!!!!!!

Hay by the way check out my story in the mead hall - D day a story of their efforts, i rushed it a bit i know but the next one will be better.

keep on tellin all of your friends to come and tell me their favorite units too!

sincerely.......................................warking...................................:2thumbsup :

warking

03-27-2007, 11:19

soz this is the 151st

warking

03-30-2007, 08:18

Come one you guys no one is replying anymore come on and tell me all of your favourite units!!!!!!!

sincerely.....................................warking..................................:2thumbsup:

Mithrandir

03-30-2007, 15:20

miliseconds away from calling the coroner to pronounce this topic dead...

warking

04-01-2007, 03:14

no no no no no! please do not close this thread mithrandir its my best one!!!!!!!!!

and i want it to at least get to 10 pages!

please dont close this thread!

Vorenus

04-01-2007, 05:16

Want to keep this thread going, huh? It needs some disagreement... Let me try.......

buddhist monks, Cathaprchts, Praetorian Cavalry, Genoese Crossbow Militia, peasents, Pharohs bowmen, Janissary Infantry, Swiss Halberdiers, Noble Scythian Horse Archers, Armenian Heavy cavalry, pigs, wardogs, and Huscarls are the WORST units ever conjured!!! What were you people thinking?!?!?!

Spartans own! WHOOOOOO!!!! :thumbsup:

PS: LEEEEROY JEEEEENKINS!!!

warking

04-01-2007, 10:56

OK yes go Vorenus

And By the way dont put down the dogs and pigs!!!!!!

because they are cool!

RoadKill

04-01-2007, 16:23

PEASENTSSSSSSSS :whip:

Csargo

04-01-2007, 18:39

CAMELS PWN ALL!!!!! That one was for you Mith ~;)

English longbowmen, nuff said.

Vorenus

04-01-2007, 19:28

Ok, I got to admit, the pigs and dogs are great.

English longbowmen couldnt hit water if they fell out of a boat... nuff said.

Csargo

04-01-2007, 22:28

Ok, I got to admit, the pigs and dogs are great.

English longbowmen couldnt hit water if they fell out of a boat... nuff said.

:bigcry:

OliverWKim

04-02-2007, 14:18

150th Post!!:beam:

A tie between Urban Cohorts from RTW and English Longbowmen (any type, they're all good!) from M2TW.

OliverWKim

04-02-2007, 14:21

English longbowmen couldnt hit water if they fell out of a boat... nuff said.
I once destroyed 3 units of French cavalry with two units of new, non-veteran longbowmen. Nuff said.

Martok

04-03-2007, 06:24

I once destroyed 3 units of French cavalry with two units of new, non-veteran longbowmen. Nuff said.
Holy crap, what are they feeding Longbowmen in Medieval 2 -- chocolate-flavored steroids?? :inquisitive: I know they're good, but I don't know if they should be *that* good!

warking

04-03-2007, 06:46

lol very good martok, and by the way how are mithrandirs stables going?

p.s. GO WARDOGS WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO!!!!!! I ONCE KILLED 20 SLINGERS WITH ONE WARDOG! SO GO DOGGYS!

sincerly........................................warking.......................................:2thum bsup:

Vorenus

04-03-2007, 14:59

I once destroyed 3 units of French cavalry with two units of new, non-veteran longbowmen. Nuff said.

Notice, they were French cavalry...

Leith

04-03-2007, 18:15

In MTW, it has to be the SwissArmouredPikemen. Whatever job you may assign to these dudes, they can be relied upon to execute efficiently. Great for slaughtering cavalry of all kinds, brilliant at chewing infantry, with an especially viscious charge!

In RTW, the sheer sight of Royal Pikemen ( A Macedonian unit ) is absolutely brilliant to behold. This unit is a walking forest of pikes which should defeat most units in a face-to-face confrontation.

Martok

04-03-2007, 23:49

lol very good martok, and by the way how are mithrandirs stables going?
Oh just fine. You're due up for another another turn at feeding the camels yourself, btw. ~D

In MTW, it has to be the SwissArmouredPikemen. Whatever job you may assign to these dudes, they can be relied upon to execute efficiently. Great for slaughtering cavalry of all kinds, brilliant at chewing infantry, with an especially viscious charge!
They're excellent units, but it's a pity they take so long to tech up to. I usually get bored with my campaigns by the time I get to the Late period, and the Late period itself doesn't interest me much.

One of the reasons my favorite units (Jinnettes, Gazi Infantry, Huscarles, & Bedouin Camel Warriors) are ranked so high is because they generally don't have massive build requirements.

Huscarles are the only real exception to this, as I believe they require a Castle. But then they're so overpowered, that this is just as well. :yes:

Caerfanan

04-04-2007, 09:39

Auto-Edited out: useless reaction...

Vorenus

04-04-2007, 19:40

Oh just fine. You're due up for another another turn at feeding the camels yourself, btw. ~D

They're excellent units, but it's a pity they take so long to tech up to. I usually get bored with my campaigns by the time I get to the Late period, and the Late period itself doesn't interest me much.

One of the reasons my favorite units (Jinnettes, Gazi Infantry, Huscarles, & Bedouin Camel Warriors) are ranked so high is because they generally don't have massive build requirements.

Huscarles are the only real exception to this, as I believe they require a Castle. But then they're so overpowered, that this is just as well. :yes:

I agree, the things with all those massive build requirements i dont use that much... especially two turn units, ugh.

Martok

04-05-2007, 01:21

I agree, the things with all those massive build requirements i dont use that much... especially two turn units, ugh.
Oh, I don't know about that. Naptha throwers in MTW can be great fun when utilized properly. ~D

Jesting aside, though, I agree it's a pain having to wait 2 years for a unit to be trained. I understand the rationale for it, but I can't deny it can be irksome at times.

seireikhaan

04-05-2007, 02:38

Huscarles require only a keep to train. Armourer plus swordsmith are the requirements to train them, IIRC.

Martok

04-05-2007, 08:16

Huscarles require only a keep to train. Armourer plus swordsmith are the requirements to train them, IIRC.
Yeah, I realized that after I posted it. I was thinking of Caravel's MTW Pocket Mod, which does require a Castle before Huscarles can be trained. (It's a small measure to help balance the fact that they're so overpowered.)

OliverWKim

04-05-2007, 10:59

Holy crap, what are they feeding Longbowmen in Medieval 2 -- chocolate-flavored steroids?? :inquisitive: I know they're good, but I don't know if they should be *that* good!

I planted stakes with my longbowmen and they were positioned on high ground, on top of a hill. There must have been a glitch or the AI cavalry was just stupid. They charged (allowing me to shoot down quite a few) straight into my stakes. Self-impaling must have been quite the trend in feudal france. :laugh4:

Caerfanan

04-06-2007, 09:28

I planted stakes with my longbowmen and they were positioned on high ground, on top of a hill. There must have been a glitch or the AI cavalry was just stupid. They charged (allowing me to shoot down quite a few) straight into my stakes. Self-impaling must have been quite the trend in feudal france. :laugh4:

Well, the most impressive stupid "charge for glory" ever heard of for me was the battle of Crecy in 1346. All the knights of the french Army charged uphill, under the rain, in the mud, and under heavy arrow-fire coming from the english.

A slaughter.

Taken individually the french knights were impressive warriors. But a lot of their leaders were just thinking that charging head on was the only way to win...

OliverWKim

04-07-2007, 07:53

Lots of battles (Agincourt, Crecy) where the French lost seem to involve impetuous charging knights/nobles and muddy ground. And English longbowmen, come to think of it. Not a very good combination.

OliverWKim

04-07-2007, 08:03

Actually I've got to add another unit to my list: Spartans from RTW!!! The most disciplined killing machines I've ever used in a game. I made a simulation of the battle of Platea (approx. 40,000 Greek hoplites and 70,000 light infantry against 200,000 Persians - represented by the Parthians) and my two units of Spartan infantry literally mowed down seven units of Parthian infantry. When I checked battle statistics, both Spartans had around 800 kills, and altogether suffered only 40 casualties. These numbers are slightly inflated as I set Unit Size to 'Huge' - a nice tactic to get large-scale battles.

gran_guitarra

04-08-2007, 04:28

Space Marine Deathwatch Kill Team. Adamantium armor gives them better armour than most 40k tanks, their enhancements give them strength to flip over a Leman Russ tank and speed to dodge bullets.

Their bolters can blow an unarmoured human into bloody mist in one round, and they get Power Knives, which cut through armor like a knife through butter, and they get special special weapons (master crafted and everything).

These guys could take on 8k Spartan Hoplites and win without a single casualty, THEY RULE ALL!!!!

Okay, seriously

My favorite unit in RTW has got to be the Sacred Band Phalanx. The second best Phalanx, and the best Mass-produceable one.
In medieval two I would say Chivalric Knights/Armoured Swordsmen.

MerlinusCDXX

04-09-2007, 00:28

STW-? don't have
MTW (1)
Catholic- Italian Infantry-low reqs for good spearman
Teutonic Sgts-pretty fast for armored cav
Swabian Swords-tough HRE early unit
Huskarles-homicidal tin-can on steroids:furious3:
Jinettes-light cav w/ benefits
Muslim-- Armenian Cavalry-real heavy cav w/ insanely low reqs
Jannissary Heavy Inf-the Turkish dog food factory
Almohad Urban Militia-dude these guys are hardcore
Orthodox-Druzhina Cavalry-80 men+Armor Piercing=lots of dead catholics
Varangian Guard- disciplined version of Huskarles
Cataphracts-come on...its the Katatanks
Universal/Regional-Avar Nobles-early Cats for the rest of us
Steppe Cavalry-horsies drinking lots of coffee
Steppe Heavy Cavalry-all this + bows too:2thumbsup:
Swiss Armoured Pikemen- great charge stopping power
RTW-
the Cretins at Sparta...oops that's the Spartans at Crete
yep...Spartan Hoplites and Creaasshun Archerrsss

i also like Cataphract Archers, Sarmatian mercs, and Armoured hefalumps
BI-Clibanarii Immortals, Hunnic Elites, Saxon Hearth Troops, and Francisca Heerban

Boyar Karhunkynsi

04-09-2007, 02:03

MTW: Jinete, hands down.
VI: Too many to list. I love so many of them.

STW: Never liked any of it.
MI: Ditto above.

RTW: Urban Cohort (I killed three full stacks of Eastern Infantry with 3 units of these), Arcani, Foresters (excellent marksmen).
BI: Hounds of Cluann (They just don't die!), Saxon Keel (Effective and fast) anything that can shield wall or go berserk (ie. Lombardi Berserker's).

M2TW: Forlorn Hope (nigh 'pon impossible to rout), Gothic Knights (Will rip apart three units of dsmtd. Feudal knights without breaking a sweat), Peasant Archers (Sooooo underestimated en masse), Scots Guard (fav. archers - excellent marksmen, tough in melee), Norse Swordsmen (Cheap, very cheap - very effective).

Most HRE units just pwn.

-Max

atheotes

04-13-2007, 16:01

Huscarles - single most painful unit to have in ur enemy lineup
In RTW i loved using panzerphants... kicking and tossing

B-DogKY

04-13-2007, 22:54

I have to say in Barbarian Invasion I have a new favorite faction, and hence, all their units are my favs. The Faction is the Allemani. Lombard Berserkers, Lombard Archers, wardogs, etc. I recently played a full campaign with these guys, and I have to say my battle were, bar none, the best tactical battles I have ever fought. The units worked as advertised (each was very good at supposed specialty) and a lot of battles came down to superior tactics winning (or bad tactics losing) the day. Not to mention how much fun it is releasing the Berserkers on top of a wall and watching the opposition literally fly off the walls.

Worst unit ever? Levy Spearman (Franks). These guys were horribly misnamed. They should be called Levy Javalinmen. They have no bonus versus cavalry, which IMHO is the only thing I want from my SPEARmen. Since they are just glorified javalin throwers, it leaves an annoying hole in the basic order of battle for the Franks. Don't get me wrong, I still like playing the Franks, it's just irritating that they have no base cheap infantry unit.

Laman

04-14-2007, 07:14

...
Worst unit ever? Levy Spearman (Franks). These guys were horribly misnamed. They should be called Levy Javalinmen. They have no bonus versus cavalry, which IMHO is the only thing I want from my SPEARmen. Since they are just glorified javalin throwers, it leaves an annoying hole in the basic order of battle for the Franks. Don't get me wrong, I still like playing the Franks, it's just irritating that they have no base cheap infantry unit.

I think they have a bonus, but like the ERE Lanciarii it isn't shown (however haven't really played BI since I patched it so may be wrong if it has changed). And they do have shieldwall which is always nice (and spear units are not as slow in it like swords and axes).

Caerfanan

04-16-2007, 16:07

Lots of battles (Agincourt, Crecy) where the French lost seem to involve impetuous charging knights/nobles and muddy ground. And English longbowmen, come to think of it. Not a very good combination.
Yup. Rain + Mud + English longbowmen = Do not go there. Ever! :laugh4:

Caerfanan

04-16-2007, 16:10

Oh, after having fallen in love with a basic Medium Cavalry built in Defnas a few campaigns ago, I'm now in love with the welsh bandits. My, oh, my: fast as a bow, longer range, runs like a highlander, armour piercing, more than decent in melee (dies a bit easily though).... I've won a couple of battles against VIKINGS in a welsh campaign just because I could havily reduce their numbers with welsh bandits attacking from diferent sides, the enemy not knowing where to send its army. When they finally arrived to my main body of troops, they were 70% of them, and very tired apparently.... The general unit, which was standing a bit aside was finally routed by my 4 welsh bandit raining arrows...

Dark Water

04-20-2007, 22:07

In MTW which I'm currently playing again I'd have to say....... kataphractoi for cavalry they just roll over people......
Spanish jinetes because they are great for pelting the enemy and charging in afterwards (although only REALLY effective from the flanks).....
Gallowglasses...although they have poor morale they have a great attack and cost less to maintain than even peasants(22 florins compared to 37 for peasants).....
A little off the point but one of my favourite features of the battle scenario is the follow missiles option(when you right click a missile unit as he is firing at a target).......... it just looks cool........

Glyndwr in the Soke

04-23-2007, 09:15

seireikhaan

04-26-2007, 21:40

In MTW which I'm currently playing again I'd have to say....... kataphractoi for cavalry they just roll over people......

Not when I play against them!~D

seireikhaan

04-26-2007, 21:41

Just sliced through Britain as the Welsh.

I am back to my old arrowing ways. Those v+1 archers at a reduced price... I just wiped the floor with all comers. :eyebrows:
Have now switched to a Pict campaign, to fine-tune my crossbow skills.

If you like V1 archers, then try out V2 longbowmen. Very fun indeed, though perhaps overpowered.:yes:

Fußball

05-06-2007, 13:35

Hands down Gothic Knights are my favorite units in the Medieval series. The beautiful gothic style armor, armored steeds, maces and morningstars and of course the lances... Everything a man in battle could want! And of course Dismounted Gothic Knights with zweihänder make you water at the mouth before a good scrap! ^^

Have not played it in a loooong time because of compatibility issues with XP but in STW my favorite unit is Heavy Samurai Calvary. Nothing gets me more than heavy armor! And for infantry it was most definitely Naginata Samurai. Heavily armored samurai with a Naginata, give me one good troop of naginata armed samurai to defend the bridge into Musashi and that's all I need! :smash:

Tschüß!
Erich

Xehh II

05-07-2007, 04:43

I have two new fave units from XL, they are Voynuk Swordmen and Voynuk Bladesmen.

Death is yonder

05-08-2007, 09:57

Hi guys,this is my first post.:sweatdrop: I hope i don't say something stupidthey.
I like the English longbowmen-They're pretty much the cretan archers of M2TW.
The only thing i dont like about them is that sometimes during sieges when im defending,they tend to shoot high up in the air rather than shoot directly at the enemy.This is rather innacurate and less demaging to the enemy therefore making it pretty annoying.Can someone please tell me how to solve this problem?:help:

Subedei

05-08-2007, 12:05

As I hard-core Nomads fan...surprisingley I have to admit: I love those Landsknecht mercenaries...gimme 2 stacks of these [playing a Hungarian campaign in MTW2] and we´ll go all the way to Venice or Jerusalem.

I think they have a coool animation to. Call them the Spartiats of my Magyar army.:laugh4:

Ayesha

05-08-2007, 18:43

In RTW?
Cataphracts
Cataphract Chariots
Nubian Horsemen
Camel Riders

In M2TW?
Gothic Cavalry
Chivalric Knights
Viking Raider (I know that they are not very good, but they look kewl ;))

In MTW?
It has been SO long since I played :embarrased:

econ21

05-08-2007, 19:00

The only thing i dont like about them is that sometimes during sieges when im defending,they tend to shoot high up in the air rather than shoot directly at the enemy.This is rather innacurate and less demaging to the enemy therefore making it pretty annoying.Can someone please tell me how to solve this problem?:help:

Lusted proposes reducing the max angle to 45 in this thread:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83719

Orb

05-08-2007, 19:16

RTW: Forester Warband.
STW: Naginata Cavalry. IIRC they could perform well against just about anything.
MTW: Jinetes. They were *so* cool for rushing purposes.

EB: Caetrati/Caetranann. Cheap, effective against anything, just about.
Blue Lotus: Wang Liang. The. Coolest. Unit. EVER. Plus they're nicely overpowered. I also love the Mongol horse archers and the firelances, those are pretty good.

Death is yonder

05-09-2007, 10:06

[QUOTE=econ21]Lusted proposes reducing the max angle to 45 in this thread:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83719[/QUOTE
Thanks!It works nicely now.:beam:

warking

05-12-2007, 09:12

wo man serious this thread is still going?? thats pretty good you've gotta admit..

Xehh II

05-12-2007, 09:48

I have more units! This time they are from EB, they are Spartiartai Hoplitai(Spartan Hoplites), Toxotai Kretekoi(Cretan Archers), Lo'hamim Azzilim(Sabean Noble Infantry) and Giusim Aravim Tsfonim(Arabian Light Archer-Spearmen).

RedDevil

05-20-2007, 20:00

I think that Serbian Knights are the best...:charge:

Shieldmaiden

05-20-2007, 22:12

In Rome... Legionary Cohorts. Just love seeing it, classical Roman imagery :dizzy2:

I was Julius Caesars father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate in another life.

Warluster

05-22-2007, 11:19

I now like Spanish Musketeers from M2TW a lot now, especially with them decked otu with top experince,armor and weapon!

And also Tercios with best armor etc.

set_12

05-24-2007, 23:56

I like the pilgrims, because they are powerful, ok powerful, especially in religious powerful:dizzy2:

McIwoo

05-25-2007, 13:38

Mounted archers are my favorite troops. Especially the ones with a high stamina.

mamluks archers, dvor cavalry, mongols mounted heavy archers.

GeoBeeChamp

06-03-2007, 20:16

English Lonbowmen all the way!
With 4 units of them and 4 units of Billmen I killed a full army :knight: of Frenchies!

Maddox

06-10-2007, 05:51

The Armoured War Elephants are hands down the best unit in the series. They can gore you with there tusks, trample you, shoot you with arrows hecks they can even knock open gates.:wall:

Motep

06-10-2007, 06:09

warning...screenies not included

Chariots...they kick ass...need I say more? Okay, Okay...fine...I will...dont be so pushy. I was engaged in an epic battle back around 180 b.c., standard, untampered rtw. I, of course, was the most noble egyptians, and had just recently gotten a stackfull of soldiers to Rome, the fabled heartand of the most notorious roman empire, which had recently been beaten off my most remote and seperated settlement...that of Tara (Ireland). Okay, Back to Rome. The S.P.Q.R had two stacks of most experienced triarii, priceps, hastati, and about 5 family members strewn about, aided by a stack of early legions and the older troops from the julii and scipii. I was fending off the onslaught of 3 and a half to 4 stacks with my one stack of shock-troops. I really thought that my family heir, along with the entire force involved with Operation: Kick Roman Ass (patent pending) were done for! But some clever posistioning and the extensive use of rocks to drive their forces apart, allowed my chariots to wipe their family members off of the map. I drove them into the enemies flanks, biting quite deeply into the enemy ranks, killing them by the dozens. A battle for which I held no hope was instantly brought into the light. I carved deep with my archers, holding their men at bay with my pikemen and my cavalry, somehow holding out against the overwhelming onslaught with much ease, winning the battle with only two hundred casualties...to thier two thousand. My chariots alone caused a full half of their casualties, and earned my undying respect. I later went on to completely conquer the romans, and later the whole of the map!...again...

Motep

06-10-2007, 06:11

In Rome... Legionary Cohorts. Just love seeing it, classical Roman imagery :dizzy2:

I was Julius Caesars father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate in another life.

You were caesar's cousin's roommate? Or were you his roommate?

King of Finland

06-14-2007, 10:42

In RTW my favourite units are all legionaries. Their javelins are devastating, and they kill everything on their way in melee.

In M2TW, musketeers. Very long range + accuracy + gunpowder = many DEAD :skull: enemies.'

I must admit that I don't remember a thing about MTW because I was 10 years old when I played it. :embarassed:

Wessex Rob

06-15-2007, 01:30

Yep, got to go with the Legions! I just love setting up in a "chequerboard" and just waiting for the enemy to come to me...soften them up with some arrows...then the javelins are enough to have them faltering....hit them hard from the front with a counter-charge (assuming they're still coming!) and then ride them down with whatever cavalry is available :skull: . Another victory for the Empire. :laugh4:

Shieldmaiden

06-16-2007, 23:45

I've got lots more non-Roman experience now, and...

In RTW:

(Briton) Light Chariots - Wow. Just wow. Death Race 200BC. Now CA, let me play as Boudicca! I'm sick of Briton Generals all being blokes :wall:

(Briton) Head Hurlers - Routing the enemy in horrible style? Yes please.

(Roman) First Cohort - Well I paid for Rome. I want to see classic Roman Legions. I demand it.

(Greek) Spartan Hoplites - I've seen quite a few last stands by Spartan Hoplites. I'm proud :balloon2:

In BI:

The Saxons - I just love their look, its iconic Dark Age to me (from bad films like The Siege of the Saxons) and learning about the Battle of Hastings, and things in School :book:

Pharnakes

06-17-2007, 00:46

Ha'Abbirim Ha'Qdosim Se'l Astarte:laugh4:

Otherwise known as sacred band cavalry, if your foolish enough not to play eb.

Such a cool name though, no?

warking

06-17-2007, 09:26

wo is this thread still going?

thats incredible.

Caerfanan

06-18-2007, 10:31

wo is this thread still going?

thats incredible.
Well, you did ask for 60 pages, right? :beam:

mac_augustus

06-18-2007, 14:43

Hail to All! I hope I'm not to late to add my thoughts to this prestige thread! I have played RTW and Barb Inv with several factions and I have come to this conclusion - For infantry I have to give it up for Legionary cohorts, They take orders well - don't rush unless told and won't break as easlily as others. For Calvalry again it has to be the Romans again. I played as the Secludes and when you use their cavalry it is a whole new world. I use cav to outflank my enemy, charge from behind and send them to Hades gate, ha ha! But with the Secludes they exhaust all their arrows before charging. I'm not saying it's wrong but it's an entirely new way of fighting - it took some getting used to I'll tell you! I have to say it's really neat to try other units in battle. You gain more respect for your enemies, you learn new tactics for all the units you encounter and finally not very often its nice to have somebody hand you your butt on a plate once in a while. GODSPEED! Veni, vidi, vici.

doombringer

06-22-2007, 21:50

Roman Pila infantry!
very fun to use, and can use them very effectively in cities, by testudo then undoing so they are closer knit, then lining them all up together and putting fire @ will and hold ground on- very hard to break

phoenixemperor

06-24-2007, 13:58

Companion Cavalry from RTW vanilla, Principes from RTR (the workhorse of my Roman legions) and the Varangians from M2TW.

King Jan III Sobieski

06-25-2007, 01:34

I vote for Polish Retainers; of course, over all, I vote for anything calvary in nature. Artillery helps too...

Gimli

06-27-2007, 14:20

FAVORITRE UNIT?!?!?! :dizzy2: That is a tough question to answer! Ummm..... In the normal MTW VI, I would have to say that I like the Varangian Guard... They can take and give out such a pounding! In the MTW XL mod, I would have to say that I like Klibanophoroi (a heavily armored Byzantine ranged cavalry with a mace as their melee weapon!) and the naptha catapult... (BOOM!!!) Yet to play RTW or M2TW... *sigh* :shame:

Rotc_Railey15

06-29-2007, 15:41

Favorite infantry units:
1. Spartan Hoplites-Toughest soldiers in the game! (Especially trained at foundries and panthieons.)
2. Silver Sheild Pikemen-121 troops, cant beat that!
3. Principes-Easy to get early in game and effective.

Cavalry:
1. Cataphracts-Armored, thats enough said.
2. War Elephants-expensive, but worth it.
3. Roman cavalry-not expensive easy to obtain after Gaius Marius!