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Shahed
12-21-2006, 03:13
Hope nobody minds me posting a link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6196069.stm

The students make a fool of Ahmadinejad and his appointed clerical dean for Tehran University. It's a good read.

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Sadly a lot of them will have problems but they are doing the right thing. Sometimes there is no path but that of confrontation.
KukriKhan
12-21-2006, 05:18
... Sadly a lot of them will have problems but they are doing the right thing. Sometimes there is no path but that of confrontation.

Indeed. What Mister Ahmadinejad and his generation seem to have forgotten is the passion for unfettered expression their revolution wrought/displayed.

I have high hopes for a future relationship between persian and american peoples. We have more in common than we have apart. If I apologize for the Shah thing, will they apologize for the hostage thing? Maybe then we can fix the wounded beast that is the middle-east.
GoreBag
12-21-2006, 08:46
I have high hopes for a future relationship between persian and american peoples. We have more in common than we have apart. If I apologize for the Shah thing, will they apologize for the hostage thing? Maybe then we can fix the wounded beast that is the middle-east.


Sadly a lot of them will have problems but they are doing the right thing. Sometimes there is no path but that of confrontation.

...doubt it.
Mooks
12-21-2006, 12:33
Viva la resistance!
Watchman
12-21-2006, 12:48
Ah, uni students. Reliably rebellious about everywhere, particularly under repressive regimes. Must be the combination of youth and education (and hanging about similarly minded peers) that does it. :rtwyes:
macsen rufus
12-21-2006, 16:06
Well, any sign of resistance is to be seen as positive, and at least it proves Iranian society isn't a monolith lined up behind the extremists.

However, what did worry me:


Mr Ahmadinejad told journalists the chancellor should be friendly with the students, moving among them and visiting their dormitories

:sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop:
Dâriûsh
12-21-2006, 19:36
It may begin with the students. But they should not forget that pilgrims annually visiting Mashhad outnumber all student demonstrations combined. Iran is not only Teheran, Shiraz, and Isfahan Universities.


The urban students have to win the rural folks. Or fail.
Fragony
12-21-2006, 19:42
Didn't he got a beating today in the local elections? Was on the news here anyway. I say all is looking good, students turning against the regime, maybe it all ends the same way it started.

Or many hangings to come.
Goofball
12-21-2006, 20:50
I love this bit:


"They threatened me that if I talked to the media it might make things much worse for me," says Mehdi Aminzadeh, who has been banned from doing a masters in political science because he has been too active in politics.

Would they also ban you from doing a masters in engineering if you had been too active in engineering?

:inquisitive:
Rameusb5
12-21-2006, 20:57
IIRC back in the '70's when they ejected the Shaw and brought the Iatola back, that began as student demonstrations against the American embassy that ended with the hostage situation.

Never underestimate the power of mob mentality.

I have my doubts that the middle east will ever actually sympathise with the US (or the west in general) because their priorities are in a totally different place. We don't understand each other at all.

On top of that, the US government keeps getting involved in crap they should stay out of. How many people have to die just because the CIA was afraid of communism during the cold war?
Dâriûsh
12-21-2006, 21:35
Would they also ban you from doing a masters in engineering if you had been too active in engineering?

:inquisitive: Maybe. Or maybe they would just throw you through a closed window. Another student suicide.


It’s Mullahjustice™.
Banquo's Ghost
12-21-2006, 21:59
I have my doubts that the middle east will ever actually sympathise with the US (or the west in general) because their priorities are in a totally different place. We don't understand each other at all.

Oh, I think you'll find the Saudis understand you very well indeed. :yes:
Navaros
12-23-2006, 02:36
The students are losing, as they should. They can "demonstrate" all they want, but the secular humanist and liberal "professors" will still be purged from Iran's Universities. :smash:
Ice
12-23-2006, 03:45
The students are losing, as they should. They can "demonstrate" all they want, but the secular humanist and liberal "professors" will still be purged from Iran's Universities. :smash:

Hey, Navraros. Here is an idea. Build a time machine and go live in medieval Europe. I'm sure you will finally find your place there, burning "heretics" and free thinkers at the stake.

Edit: Contributing to the topic at had, God bless those students. I'm glad someone isn't afraid to speak out against the current regime.
Reverend Joe
12-23-2006, 04:41
The students are losing, as they should. They can "demonstrate" all they want, but the secular humanist and liberal "professors" will still be purged from Iran's Universities. :smash:
I weep for you, my friend.
Samurai Waki
12-23-2006, 08:41
You can purge the Scholars and Freethinkers until your lips are blue and chilled, but when it comes to the spirit (if it is truly there) no amount of censorship or sheer force of will can truelly stop it.

"There are only two forces in the world, the sword and the spirit. In the long run the sword will always be conquered by the spirit."
-Napoleon Bonaparte
Navaros
12-23-2006, 09:34
To my knowledge the purge is not of scholars or freethinkers, but rather merely those who are using Universities as soapboxes to promote liberal propaganda.

I believe the spirits of the Koran-believing Muslims are much stronger than the spirits of those being purged.
Red Peasant
12-23-2006, 16:52
To my knowledge the purge is not of scholars or freethinkers, but rather merely those who are using Universities as soapboxes to promote liberal propaganda.

I believe the spirits of the Koran-believing Muslims are much stronger than the spirits of those being purged.

Ah, Navaros is happy at last. Do you realise that the more you come out with the stuff in your last two posts, the more ridiculous you look. Please, carry on. :2thumbsup: :laugh4:
Ice
12-23-2006, 18:10
To my knowledge the purge is not of scholars or freethinkers, but rather merely those who are using Universities as soapboxes to promote liberal propaganda.

I believe the spirits of the Koran-believing Muslims are much stronger than the spirits of those being purged.

You do realize scholars can be liberals, correct? You do realize freethinkers can be liberals, correct? Purging a group of people because you don't agree with their ideas is rediculous. They should ALWAYS be allowed to speak, whether you agree with them or not.
AntiochusIII
12-28-2006, 00:04
Ah, uni students. Reliably rebellious about everywhere, particularly under repressive regimes. Must be the combination of youth and education (and hanging about similarly minded peers) that does it. :rtwyes:When will they be building barricades in Tehran?

That'd be wicked. Except for the fact that they won't last five seconds longer than when the mullahsmilitary start to fire.

:skull:

When it comes to revolutions and the overthrowing of the bastardsdictator of the world, uni students can take up the leadership, but they won't win alone. :balloon2: