What happened to .81?

[sages]

It was going to be released any minute and 'days' several weeks ago. I've been holding off playing waiting for it to show up... Vacation is over officially tonight, and no sign of it! *snif*

[blacksnail]

Some persistent bugs, some delays due to real life, and then the holidays affecting the team members. Right now we're testing internally.

Believe me, we aren't happy either. The plan is to get this thing out ASAP.

[Dooz]

One thing you learn with EB is that you never hold your breath. You should have just played .80 during your break, although it's completely understandable what your thought process was. Alas, now break is over and .80 wasn't even enjoyed as it should have been.

[Zastrow]

Yeah, I've played EB, but have not let myself get too terribly attached to any particular campaign, less the next day the patch come out and make me start a new one.

[-Praetor-]

Yeah, I've played EB, but have not let myself get too terribly attached to any particular campaign, less the next day the patch come out and make me start a new one.

It`s the exact thing that happens to me too. :grin:

Anyways, this has been useful for me, since I`ve tried almost every faction on the game, in advance for a more stable campaign in 0.81. :grin:

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Sorry guys, but it's just as blacksnail said. For a good laugh it was initially expected to be a patch released "after a couple of days" to fix a few issues that were discovered during the last compilation stages of 080. :laugh4: Or at least I saw that term thrown out once. :grin:

I'm out of here now for a few days and I do fully expect to see new lists of what we missed still in the bug reports section when I get back. (which means I am hoping it will be out for a couple of days at least by the time I'm back :grin:)

[Pode]

<snip>I'm out of here now for a few days <snip>I am hoping it will be out for a couple of days at least by the time I'm back

For tonight's math homework, EB fans, TA has left us with the following problem:

"Few" - "Couple" = ? :inquisitive:

Teasing, TA, enjoy your break. Somehow I'll manage not to gnaw my fingers off in anticipation. Just please do your damnedest to squash any AI turn CTD bugs. Everything else I can live with, it's a beta, as long as I can keep playing it.

[Dumbass]

For tonight's math homework, EB fans, TA has left us with the following problem:

"Few" - "Couple" = ? :inquisitive:



Few + Couple = Fewple.... Duh.

[Pode]

Few + Couple = Fewple.... Duh.

Yes, but what is Few MINUS Couple?

(I'm gonna enjoy this WAYYYYY too much . . . .)

Read the problem, Dumbass :laugh4:

Thanks for the setup, man. That was just too good not to take advantage of at your expense. Just messin' with you, not flaming.

[sages]

Yes, but what is Few MINUS Couple?

(I'm gonna enjoy this WAYYYYY too much . . . .)

Read the problem, Dumbass :laugh4:



PWNT! :=)

Yeah, I should have just played .80... but I got kinda into Mount and Blade after a recommendation from this board.

Hmm... a few is generally 3, a couple is generally 2, so 3 - 2 is usually about 1, and this was posted yesterday, which means .81 must be out today. Yeah!

But I won't take any bets.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Apparently:

"Few" - "Couple" = ?

With ? being equal to:
"misreading" + "setup" + "expectations" - "bets" = "misreadingsetupexpectations" > error
For:
You can't remove part of a string, if that particular part doesn't even exist within the string!

Therefore:
"Few" - "Couple" = error

Therefore:
It's no wonder that EB takes so long to get bugfree... :juggle:
Also: before the error pops up, it seems as if a setup based on misreadings is to be expected... :inquisitive:

Otherwise:
"Few" - "Couple" > error
For:
You can't remove part of a string, if that particular part doesn't even exist within the string!
Therefore:
It's no wonder that EB takes so long to get bugfree... :juggle:

Either way: Teleklos Archelaou teached us how bugs come into being.

[Zaknafien]

Have faith, guys. The internal version is being tested now, as in, I have to re-start my campaign to test it! :(

[Zalmoxis]

Thing is, I haven't played that much on .8, and instead I waited for the patch to come out. Hope you get it done soon.

[Numahr]

Zalmoxis,

You know there will always be a "better tomorrow"... we should still enjoy what we have now. So I am tempted to say: come on, play 0.8, it already has got everything to give you a wonderful playing experience. Maybe play with another faction than the ONE you want to play with the full features, e.g. if you're a fan of Carthage play as the Gauls for the time being...

I just think we should not discard what we already have just because of what we may have soon!

[galathas]

Will there be new units in 0.81.

[paullus]

a few galathas. we'll have the getai family member for one. its not a unit, but it is a new and glorious model/skin!

[galathas]

sound nice.

[Spendios]

Will there be new units in 0.81.

also hellenic standards and officers (they are in check your dmb but due to last minute edu problem they don't appear).

[Dumbass]

Yes, but what is Few MINUS Couple?

(I'm gonna enjoy this WAYYYYY too much . . . .)

Read the problem, Dumbass :laugh4:

Thanks for the setup, man. That was just too good not to take advantage of at your expense. Just messin' with you, not flaming.

Oh god, the shame. My name has backfired onto me... again.

[sages]

Well, it's now tomorrow instead of merely today, aka yesterday, which means that few - couple != today (where today is in fact yesterday). There's still a chance that it equals tomorrow (which is in fact today), but I'm not very hopeful.

My recommendation to the EB folks is that they just forgo this whole 'testing' business in favor of writing bug-free code / scripts. It's much more efficient. :idea2:

I wonder if few - couple = fw - coupl ?

Wait, I know! If you assign numbers to each letter, aka a = 1, b = 2 then...

few = 34
couple = 72

So, few - couple = -38. Therefore, by this calcuation, EB .81 shipped right around Thanksgiving. Or maybe in -38 BCE? Hard to say.

No wait, I got it! It shipped in 1969!

[Caesar Vastator]

Well, it's now tomorrow instead of merely today, aka yesterday, which means that few - couple != today (where today is in fact yesterday). There's still a chance that it equals tomorrow (which is in fact today), but I'm not very hopeful.

My recommendation to the EB folks is that they just forgo this whole 'testing' business in favor of writing bug-free code / scripts. It's much more efficient. :idea2:

I wonder if few - couple = fw - coupl ?

Wait, I know! If you assign numbers to each letter, aka a = 1, b = 2 then...

few = 34
couple = 72

So, few - couple = -38. Therefore, by this calcuation, EB .81 shipped right around Thanksgiving. Or maybe in -38 BCE? Hard to say.

No wait, I got it! It shipped in 1969!
This strange behaviour is caused by the abstinence from EB. To heal yourself go and play EB 0.8! Or wait EB 0.81, if the abstinence will not kill you...

[skuzzy]

Or assign few - couple as an iterator and thus index = few - couple = -38

while(!index)
{
index++;
}

assuming index is quantified as a day that means that EB 0.81 will be out Feb 12th... so ENJOY 0.8. And if you ask why not 2/11 with my current structure then you'll be banished from this forum to live a life of solitude on some flame war forum such as somethingawful.com

[fallen851]

You guys have it all wrong.

Let us work this out:

Few - Couple = ?

So we minus and E from few since couple has one, and we get:

Fw - Coupl

Now fw has a double U (W), and since coupl has a single U, we minus that out and are left with:

Fu - Copl

So... we know what the meaning of "FU" is... and the minus sign is really a hypen...

But who is copl?

Why it is the Canadian Online Poker League! (http://www.copl.ca/)

Apparently, TA has been gambling a bit much, which is why he is out of town, and he is displaying his hatred of his addiction subtly...

[Caratacos]

It's getting a bit Da Vinci Code in here. Next we'll learn that the Catholic church is working to delay .81 and sending assissins after EB members :laugh4:

[sages]

You guys have it all wrong.

Let us work this out:

Few - Couple = ?

So we minus and E from few since couple has one, and we get:

Fw - Coupl

Now fw has a double U (W), and since coupl has a single U, we minus that out and are left with:

Fu - Copl

So... we know what the meaning of "FU" is... and the minus sign is really a hypen...

But who is copl?

Why it is the Canadian Online Poker League! (http://www.copl.ca/)

Apparently, TA has been gambling a bit much, which is why he is out of town, and he is displaying his hatred of his addiction subtly...

Verrrrry nice. I like that much better than Feb 12th. The last thing I need is .81 coming out 2 days before Valentines day. That's a catastrophe in the making.

[Pode]

It's getting a bit Da Vinci Code in here.

Are you saying that the Canadian Online Poker League has ties to the Freemasons? :dizzy2:

And yeah, the cure for all this is definitely to play 0.80, but the alt-tab support isn't fast enough that I have the guts to do that from "work" :beam:

[sages]

Okay, okay. This is just going too far. Folks aren't getting the seriousness of this situation. Because I can't play EB .81 right now, small fluffy bunnies are BEING MURDERED. In all sorts of nasty ways.

Save a bunny. Release EB .81 today.

[Tellos Athenaios]

...And Bunny may continue to take over the world!!!

Question: how long would it take EB from being bannend in some country, for being a) teribbly addictive and b) harmful to one's sanity (see above), or simply because it's considered some sort of new drugs? :juggle:

[Pode]

Shut up TA. Seriously. I live in the US, we're dumb enough to do exactly that. As evidence, two years ago, concerned about the rapid rise of ecstasy use among young people (won't someone please think of the children!), one of our distinguished Congresscritters introduced a bill that would have classified bottled water and glowsticks as drug paraphenalia. Meaning you could be arrested for possession of EITHER. :wall: :thumbsdown: :inquisitive: Thank God / Goddess / gods / Reason / the ancestors it didn't pass, but still . . . :no:

Besides, EB features full frontal male nudity (worse than female nudity, don't ask why, it's not supposed to make sense), and you saw how much trouble GTA and Rockstar got into for a mod that featured CLOTHED consensual adult sex (modeled in less detail than the EB units).

So let's not call attention to EB's ban potential, shall we? Remember, Klein vs AT&T demonstrated that the NSA gets a copy of all this. <Hi guys, how's life in the data mines tonight?>

Sorry for the OT rant, that just triggered my "I want my Amendments back" mode. :furious3:

So do any of the team testing 0.81 want to drop us some teasers from their test campaigns?:yes:

[Zaknafien]

I havent started mine yet, but been playing some custom battles and I do love some of the new cards.

[sages]

I havent started mine yet, but been playing some custom battles and I do love some of the new cards.

Um.

Sounds ready.

Ship it.

"Besides, EB features full frontal male nudity (worse than female nudity, don't ask why, it's not supposed to make sense),"

Geeeez, are you kidding? Male frontal nudity is much worse than female! Those naked Gesataewhatevers induce nausea in me, and blindess, hairy palms and dropped soap in the other frenchies, I mean Gauls.

Uhhhhhh, am I going to get banned now?

Bunnies are dying. Release .81 before another bunny dies.

[Orb]

"Besides, EB features full frontal male nudity (worse than female nudity, don't ask why, it's not supposed to make sense),"

Geeeez, are you kidding? Male frontal nudity is much worse than female! Those naked Gesataewhatevers induce nausea in me, and blindess, hairy palms and dropped soap in the other frenchies, I mean Gauls.

Uhhhhhh, am I going to get banned now?

For this very reason, I'm trying to become gay before my next campaign as the Gauls.

[sages]

"For this very reason, I'm trying to become gay before my next campaign as the Gauls."

How's that working out for you?

Oh, by the way:

BLAM. Squeeeeeeeee!!! BLAM. BLAM.

That's another dead bunny because .81 isn't available for download. How's that make you feel EB folks?

Edit: quotes appear to be broken or something.

[Caesar Vastator]

EB take your time in doing the patch (and to complete the mod). Thanks for what you have done and you'll do. I'm not asking to release the patch now, but can you let us to know more information about its status? This would be very appreciate.
Bye and sorry for my english.

[Tellos Athenaios]

I suppose Bunny isn't going to take over the world anytime soon... :no:

[sages]

"I suppose Bunny isn't going to take over the world anytime soon... :no:"

Blam!

Another dead bunny.

My girlfriend is working all weekend, and the weather in Seattle is promising to be truely horrific. As long as the power stays on, this would be an excellent time for a .81 release.

Don't let that last CTD stop you guys! Just release .81 now, and .82 in a week or two... Bunnies everywhere will thank you! Think of the dead bunnies!:skull:

[-Praetor-]

I think I`m joining the campaign "kill`a rabbit"

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/suicide3_small.jpg

*splat*

You can`t imagine how easy and fun this is!!!! :grin:

PS: what the hell just happened with the buttons, smilies and stuff???

[Sarcasm]

I think I`m joining the campaign "kill`a rabbit"

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/suicide3_small.jpg

*splat*

You can`t imagine how easy and fun this is!!!! :grin:

PS: what the hell just happened with the buttons, smilies and stuff???

Loved that comic book. The name Suicide Bunnies by itself made me buy it.

[sages]

"Loved that comic book. The name Suicide Bunnies by itself made me buy it."

Is it still murder if the bunnies want to die? Or just bunnicide?

Snick.

Tinktinktinkrollclunk.

Pause.

Pause.

Pause.

KAABOOOOM.

With that hand grenade, 17 bunnies died. They would have lived if EB .81 had been released.

[sages]

Anyone guess when we're going to see .81? This weekend? Next? February?

[Lovejoy]

Anyone guess when we're going to see .81? This weekend? Next? February?
Dunno. But I know one thing for sure, killing rabbits won't help: Drop the spam! you played 0.74 for ages, 0.8 is more then enough for the time being. :beam:

[sages]

"Dunno. But I know one thing for sure, killing rabbits won't help: Drop the spam! you played 0.74 for ages, 0.8 is more then enough for the time being. :beam:"

I didn't play .74 at all. :=)

Anyway, maybe I *like* killing bunnies. :smash:

[Orb]

*an eery whistling sound goes throughout the EB forum*
*there follows a sound of a liquid being poured*

Gentlemen, we now have bunny tea :D

I have one of those old annoying whistling kettles.

[sages]

"*an eery whistling sound goes throughout the EB forum*
*there follows a sound of a liquid being poured*

Gentlemen, we now have bunny tea :D

I have one of those old annoying whistling kettles."

http://www.willitblend.com/

[MiniMe]

Dear EB_Team,
While we are waiting for the patch 0.81, could somebody kindly inform us about it content (list of changes)?
And does somebody knows, what changes are to be applied by patch 0.82? =)
I’m particularly interested in:
1. Missing graphics (icons&unit_portraits);
2. Indian elephants reskinned.

Respectfully Yours,
MiniMe =)

[blacksnail]

At this point the numbering isn't firmed up, so the next release might not actually show up as "0.82." It's too early to say.

As for 0.81, the primary focus hasn't changed:

a) fixed critical CTDs
b) added more graphics (ie "Operation Remove All Vanilla Peasants From Game")

There's some minor additional changes here and there, some critical recruitment changes, etc, but that's mostly it.

[Zaknafien]

For the Romani at least there are a few asthetic changes, some better and new building descriptions, a new declaration of war text, things like that.

[sages]

There definitely seemed to be some MIC / recruiting bugs with the Romani that could use fixing...

[Grand Lord of Poop~]

"For this very reason, I'm trying to become gay before my next campaign as the Gauls."

lol

[blacksnail]

There definitely seemed to be some MIC / recruiting bugs with the Romani that could use fixing...
As we have stated from the initial mention of 0.81, the upcoming bug-fix patch is not going to focus on recruitment. There are some recruitment changes but less "refining Romani recruitment areas" and more "why the heck are Caetrati available in Baktria's home territory? Fix it!" Note that graphics and CTD prevention was the sole focus of 0.81. Do not expect major recruitment changes in 0.81.

[-Praetor-]

As we have stated from the initial mention of 0.81, the upcoming bug-fix patch is not going to focus on recruitment. There are some recruitment changes but less "refining Romani recruitment areas" and more "why the heck are Caetrati available in Baktria's home territory? Fix it!" Note that graphics and CTD prevention was the sole focus of 0.81. Do not expect major recruitment changes in 0.81.

I think it`s good enough for all of us, since graphic glitches were the chief bugs with 0.8, in addition to some isolated CTD issues (rebelling province CTD, Dariotum, Baktrion Hippeis, etc.).

But if the team squashed the reinforcement CTD, then you`re like the romanii after the 2nd punic war. Nothing can stop you now. :charge:

Looks like 0.81 patch is ad portas!!! :rtwyes: If not, consider this just wishful thinking. :grin:

Cheers!!!

[sages]

Is "ad portas" latin for "delayed"? :laugh4:

Of course, a mod is never late, nor is it early. A mod arrives precisely when it means to.

[skuzzy]

sounds like you were paid off by EB to say that!

[kalkwerk]

Is "ad portas" latin for "delayed"? :laugh4:

Of course, a mod is never late, nor is it early. A mod arrives precisely when it means to.
He is just quoting Johan.

[Pode]

He is just quoting Johan.

I'm very curious to know if anyone reading this thread <doesn't> get this reference. Is it just wishful thinking on my part to believe that all the fans of EB are the same sort of folk that know Johan's work?

[Spectral]

Is "ad portas" latin for "delayed"?

It's rather more something like " at the gates", so perhaps you could spare that last bunny ?:laugh4:

[Kugutsu]

At risk of setting myself up for a fool, but I dont know who Johan is. I do recognise the quote, but I have no idea where it originates from. Go on, someone, enlighten me...

[sages]

"It's rather more something like " at the gates", so perhaps you could spare that last bunny ?:laugh4:"

I ran out of bunnies. Between will it blend and the odd hand grenade, the just couldn't make it.

[kalkwerk]

Well you probably now Lord of the rings, where Gandalf says a wizard is never to late nor to early bla bla bla so thats where you heard it before.

Johan made this quote for his patches for Paradox games. Paradox is beside Creative Assembly THE studio for strategy games and Johan ist their leading developer.

Those games are not very impressive in terms of graphics, but they have extremely interesting gameplay. There is also a very active community with lots of excellent mods. Their best titles if you dont know them are Europa Universalis series (III coming up 27. January), Hearts of Iron I and II (try out Historical Stony Road mod) and Victoria Revolutions (which after the addon actually got excellent).

Regards Kalk

[-Praetor-]

Johan made this quote for his patches for Paradox games. Paradox is beside Creative Assembly THE studio for strategy games and Johan ist their leading developer.

Errrrrr :surprised:

I said "ad portas" quoting the expression "Hannibal ad portas", that`s what the romans said when Hannibal laid siege to Rome.

This was used as a formulae to say that something is about to arrive, that something is at the gates. In this case, 0.81 patch, but was pure wishful thinking... more based on blacksnail`s past tence when he talked about the patch ("graphics and CTD prevention was the sole focus of 0.81").

So, I deducted that the patch was somewhat ready. But it was pure wishful thinking. :grin:

How come a Johan gets in here??? :shrug:

[abou]

Hannibal never actually laid siege to Rome. It was just something parents said to scare their children.

[kalkwerk]

Errrrrr :surprised:

I said "ad portas" quoting the expression "Hannibal ad portas", that`s what the romans said when Hannibal laid siege to Rome.

This was used as a formulae to say that something is about to arrive, that something is at the gates. In this case, 0.81 patch, but was pure wishful thinking... more based on blacksnail`s past tence when he talked about the patch ("graphics and CTD prevention was the sole focus of 0.81").

So, I deducted that the patch was somewhat ready. But it was pure wishful thinking. :grin:

How come a Johan gets in here??? :shrug:

lol forget it hat nothing to do with eb.

[Kull]

... more based on blacksnail`s past tence when he talked about the patch ("graphics and CTD prevention was the sole focus of 0.81").

So, I deducted that the patch was somewhat ready. But it was pure wishful thinking.

He refers to the build which has been released for internal testing by the EB Team. To that extent, "was" is quite apropos.

(I would quibble a bit over the "some recruitment changes" comment. :yes: IMO there were a lot, although most will be all-but-invisible.)

[-Praetor-]

Hannibal never actually laid siege to Rome. It was just something parents said to scare their children.

He didn`t do it?????????

*Goes running to pick up his Durham`s Pride of Carthage novel*

That bastard lied to me!!!!!! :shout:

[kalkwerk]

Thats why they said about him he would win battles but wouldnt be able to take advantage of doing so. Historians still dont agree why he didnt after Cannae, but he chose another strategy.

[Zaknafien]

He didn`t do it?????????

*Goes running to pick up his Durham`s Pride of Carthage novel*

That bastard lied to me!!!!!! :shout:

Hah. well thats your first mistake, confusing "historical" novels for history.

[Tuuvi]

Are the numidian units going to be reskinned in .81 or another version?

[Sarcasm]

Well, he did go to Rome, in the hopes that the Roman armies that were sieging Capua would lift the siege and come to stop him. However the city closed it's doors and Hannibal had no choice but retreat and give up on the biggest of the italian cities that defected to him. But no, he didn't exactly siege it. :beam:


BTW, I've read the novel, and it's not that good. According to him, the Lybians did all the fighting, the Gauls and the Iberians were just there to get killed basically. He also has the war only last 5 years or so, when it went on for 17 and portrays Hannibal as a broken man after Cannae when almost no Italian ally defects to him. Oh well...back Robert Harris' Imperium.

EDIT: The numidians will hopefully be ready soon as far as I know.

[Zaknafien]

BTW, I've read the novel, and it's not that good. According to him, the Lybians did all the fighting, the Gauls and the Iberians were just there to get killed basically. He also has the war only last 5 years or so, when it went on for 17 and portrays Hannibal as a broken man after Cannae when almost no Italian ally defects to him. Oh well...back Robert Harris' Imperium.

EDIT: The numidians will hopefully be ready soon as far as I know.

Yep, thats what I meant. I read it too :laugh4:

Imperium looks great, Ive got it ordered. Im re-reading the Masters of Rome series right now actually. Oldies, but classic.

[blacksnail]

(I would quibble a bit over the "some recruitment changes" comment. :yes: IMO there were a lot, although most will be all-but-invisible.)
Heh. I would rather say less than more in this case. ~:)

[sages]

"Heh. I would rather say less than more in this case." ~:)

Now you're just teasing us.

[blacksnail]

What I meant was that if I say "all recruitment issues are fixed" and then it turns out they aren't, I will make a lot of people angry. ~:)

[HFox]

*points at blacksnails avatar title*

[blacksnail]

It is my gift, it is my curse...

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

It should actually say "EB Saver of Hopes & Dreams", but blacksnail is actually too modest... :beam: