How do I stack up against other players... (Whats your most difficult vs Cpu victory)

[HumphreysCraig00]

This is in the same light as the most humiliating CPU inflicted defeat suffered thread.

Anyway I just got of the tail end of my hardest campaign battle ever

It was

(On completely flat ground)

**THEM**

5 peltasts varying between 1 and 3 bronze chevrons
8 Eastern spearmen 2 silver
2 eastern spearmen 1 silver
2 Hillmen 2 Silver
1 Militia cavalry 3 bronze
1 Scythed chariot 2 Silver

***ME***

2 Equites 2 Bronze
4 Equites 1 bronze
1 Equites 0 bronze
1 Generals Cavalry 1 bronze (49 men)

1 Mercenery hoplites 1 bronze
2 Cretan Archers 0 bronze (One at 100 strength)

Apparently 11:1 odds against me going into it IIRC)

Anyway I was wondering how this stacks up against other players hardest vs cpu battle that they won.

I am pleased with myself right now.

Also Is 15 regions controlled with +100% happieness in all of them a good achievement by 258 BC?

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

2 militia Hoplites, one of the units above them for Macedon (levy pikeman?), and a peasant, not experienced, not teched up, was my garrison in one of my border cities between me and my Briton allies. The Britions decided to betray me, sent a 15 stack army to attack the city. I couldn't send any reinforcements, so the Britons ended up assaulting me with 8 rams. I had the lowest level of wooden wall as defence. No general. Their general had 4 stars. The odds were somewhere around 1 to 20.

I won. I never realized that peasants can actually be decent at flanking. I guess you realize these things when you're forced to use them.

[Afkazar]

This is in the same light as the most humiliating CPU inflicted defeat suffered thread.

Anyway I just got of the tail end of my hardest campaign battle ever

It was

(On completely flat ground)

**THEM**

5 peltasts varying between 1 and 3 bronze chevrons
8 Eastern spearmen 2 silver
2 eastern spearmen 1 silver
2 Hillmen 2 Silver
1 Militia cavalry 3 bronze
1 Scythed chariot 2 Silver

***ME***

2 Equites 2 Bronze
4 Equites 1 bronze
1 Equites 0 bronze
1 Generals Cavalry 1 bronze (49 men)

1 Mercenery hoplites 1 bronze
2 Cretan Archers 0 bronze (One at 100 strength)

Apparently 11:1 odds against me going into it IIRC)

Anyway I was wondering how this stacks up against other players hardest vs cpu battle that they won.

I am pleased with myself right now.

Also Is 15 regions controlled with +100% happieness in all of them a good achievement by 258 BC?The cpu is sometimes quite stupid at "calculating victorys" Eastern spearmen have the morale of peasents

Honestly i can say 3 units of hoplites in defending the narrow pathways of a town can easily defeat a non hoplite army 4 times its size as long as the opposing forces dont have anything super effective vs hoplites


Heres my latest greatest Victory vs the romans
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/jancz/Begin.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/jancz/Enemy.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/jancz/enemy2.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/jancz/Endpryhuss.jpg

[HumphreysCraig00]

***The cpu is sometimes quite stupid at "calculating victorys" Eastern spearmen have the morale of peasents***

Even if they do before I decided to try taking out units in order of threat rather than when the oportunity arose charging one of the 2 silver E.S. from every side semi silmultaniously with 4 equites caused all 4 equites units to rout (even after i'd killed their general) which thus far in my experience puts them above the spartan hoplites (which routed a 3 direction charge, admitedly though while out of formation) but lower than sarmartrian lancer mercenaries, which routed a 6 equites charge from 3 directions on the run away!!! scale.

Unless I was just horribly unlucky.

Which leads me to ponder how much randomness effects the battles in this...

***Honestly i can say 3 units of hoplites in defending the narrow pathways of a town can easily defeat a non hoplite army 4 times its size as long as the opposing forces dont have anything super effective vs hoplites***

If I have them all facing the same direction and the Cpu decided to just try 1 assualt path then generally yes (because I can make phalanxes that decide to stop fighting fall and regroup) but when the cpu splits and takes 2 (its never taken more than 2 for me) The hoplites rout pretty quickly without something to back them up (generally a general :))

In response to your battle.

What were the decisive moments in that battle as I cant think of any way I could have won that.

Unless I took out thier cavalry with my general then whittled them down with all the missiles I had then drew them into my hoplite mercs with the skirmishers.

/\ Is that anything like how it happened?

2 militia Hoplites, one of the units above them for Macedon (levy pikeman?), and a peasant, not experienced, not teched up, was my garrison in one of my border cities between me and my Briton allies. The Britions decided to betray me, sent a 15 stack army to attack the city. I couldn't send any reinforcements, so the Britons ended up assaulting me with 8 rams. I had the lowest level of wooden wall as defence. No general. Their general had 4 stars. The odds were somewhere around 1 to 20.

I won. I never realized that peasants can actually be decent at flanking. I guess you realize these things when you're forced to use them.***

Ive never been able to flank efectively with infantry, especially in towns as if I put them too far away they cant get there but if I put them close enough so they can get there before the pinning force routs the comp generally attacks them instead.

How did you do it?


Good victories from both of you, put me to shame :/

[HumphreysCraig00]

By the way afkazar how did you get it to quote?

I put this whole message and all the quotes in my previous message in between [*QUOTE] and [/QUOTE*] without the *s but all that happens is the [QUOTE*]s dissapear and notingh else happens.

Unless this whole post is quoted in which case why didnt it work in my last post???

..........

[Slug For A Butt]

By the way afkazar how did you get it to quote?


To do this simply use this syntax,

[*QUOTE=HumphreysCraig00]By the way afkazar how did you get it to quote?
[/QUOTE]

Remove the * at the beginning.:2thumbsup:

[HumphreysCraig00]

By the way afkazar how did you get it to quote?


By the way afkazar how did you get it to quote?


Thats what I have been doing though

I have copied and pasted the above twice and tried just removing the * and removing the * and the =humphreyscraig00 (which makes it how I normally do it.

Lets see if it works.

[HumphreysCraig00]

I may have figured out why I cant quote.

Quoting is part of Vbcode and according to the box on the top left my Vbcode is off.

For those of you who can quote, is your vb code on?

[Slug For A Butt]

Yup, it's on.

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

I pulled my victory off by holing up in the Town Square (without the moral bonus, my militia hoplites and peasants would have routed the second combat started). I placed my Phalanxes so that they were "inside of each other". The Levies were facing forward, the militias left and right, with my peasant (which was also my general) right behind them.

I got lucky, they sent their general to attack and were stupid enough to charge him right into my spears, which gave me some hope. I'm not sure how I won exactly, but their infantry would charge my phalanx group, then I would come around with my peasants and charge the flanks of one of their guys, then run away. I kept trying to rout the same enemy unit, eventually he finally routed, so I went on to the next one, he routed, next one, he routed, after seeing their general dead, my lines holding, and their friends running away, it wasn't that hard after that. In a normal battle situation, my militia hoplites wouldn't have had enough moral to last a few seconds, the time I needed to send my peasants around the back of their troops, but I had the town square, and "when one army goes against another with the god's gift of higher moral, their enemy, as a rule, cannot withstand them."

[Severous]

How about this:

https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/604/hun111anothersallyma1.th.jpg (https://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hun111anothersallyma1.jpg)

But then they took me
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3359/hun116backtothewallpx1.th.jpg (https://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hun116backtothewallpx1.jpg)

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7914/hun117lonesurvivores8.th.jpg (https://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hun117lonesurvivores8.jpg)

[HumphreysCraig00]

How did you get a draw with those numbers against you?

[Severous]

'Draws' occur when the battle timer runs out. Just avoid being destroyed.


This was my last battle yesterday. Captured a city when its Roman garrison sallied against me.

https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5682/hun153victorywh4.th.jpg (https://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hun153victorywh4.jpg)

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

This is a battle I just played an hour ago. I was seiging Athens when suddenly another stack came to reinforce them. I tried to withdraw, but ended up just on the other side of Athens and they attacked again. I was forced to fight.

https://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/SSJVegetaTrunks/HeroicVictory.jpg

[antisocialmunky]

I was playing the Romans on XGM and defeated 7 stacks worth of Carthaginians that endlessly besieged Masilla with six units of Hastati and two units of velites. The first siege was one of the most extraordinary things I had ever seen. This was because they only had one unit of elephants. They sieged me, they bashed one hole in my wall and the elephants got in and kicked my Hastati around. They took a long while to run amok but this was actually good thing. They fought long enough that most of the Carthiginian were able to run to and start entering the breach. As you can probably predict, at this point the elephants decided to go into beserk mode and killed about 700 of their levy phalangites in their rampage. That was just the first one. Carthaginian elephants became my best friends in those long siege battles.

Good ole Quintus Scipio became Quintus Africanus and then Quintus Magnus and then Quintus the Brave and then Quintus the Infantry Man. I bet he had many a happy dream of elephants running comically around in the background.

Scipio's elite Hastati must have killed atleast eight family members, two faction heirs, and atleast one faction leader but they just landed several stacks each turn... I guess they had it coming. I have to give them credit for perseverance.

Eventually the heroes of Massilla were so depleted I had to abort my invasion of Greece and use Decius Mus to relieve Scipio.

Decius Mus had an interesting story too. All you guys who haven't played Romans in XGM probably don't know how annoying it is to start a game and be at war against a faction with a 7 star general general and a full stack of Phalangites with elephants and good cavalry hanging around the boot of Italy. But alas XGM is fun like that. I had Scipio run around destroying the rebel Roman faction - who were allies of the Carthaginians and thus the whole Massilla saga - while Decius Mus assembled the grand army of the Republic to try and defend Cannae if Pyhrrus decided to besiege it. However, in a strange twist, the Greek Cities in a completely random fashion invaded Italy. Decius Mus defended Cannae from four stacks led by each one of the starting Greek family members except those of Perganum and Rhodes. This built him up to a 8 star uber general in about three turns. After the Greeks were bled white, Pyhrrus decided to redeem Greek honor by invading Cannae. Decius Mus managed to defeat him in an open battle... which was freaking awesome considering that this was my 4th try at this battle. Most of his army routed but Pyhrrus and about a hundred survivors fled to Taranteum and were finished off by Decius.

Mus became Decius Graecus and then Decius the Mighty. Somehow his bodyguard became gold chevron which makes him ridiculously good in circling around the army and beating the enemy general to death with his 1337 Jediness.

Decius the Mighty and Quintus the Infantryman... I will be so sad when they die of old age.

My other major general was Vibilius Gallicus but he died in an unfortunate drunken charge into the rear of a unit of Spear Warbanders. He had the funniest speeches and will be eternally missed by the local bartenders.

[General-Winter]

I've only been playing RTW for a little more than a month, so I am sure I don't have anything spectacular, but my greatest lopsided victory was against the last Brittanian settlement on the mainland... can't remember the name of it. Anyway, Quintus "The Brave" led an army of about 800 pre-marian legionnaires, mostly Hastati, to beseige the settlement, when the Brits sallied and brought up a full stack from behind me. I crushed the sallyers early in the battle and swung around to face the main army. I consider it the perfect example of 'what NOT to do as a barbarian': huge screaming foaming-at-the-mouth tidal wave which bent the Roman line but did not crack it. They fled in about a minute after first contact, one-and-a-half at the most.

Again, I can't remember the exact statistics, but the casualties were something like a hundred Romans to a thousand Britons. They never did recover from that. Brittainia was invaded three years after the battle, and all resistence pacified in another five. Just curious, has any barbarian player here beaten a player-controlled roman army? I'd imagine that you would either need a huge numerical advantage or a fair amount of cavalry, or both.

[HumphreysCraig00]

I have, berserkers are key when your the germans, let them do the work and ward off enemy cavalry/skirmishers with your cavalry.

(Numerical inferiority for me here, but terrible imbalancing issue that let me win)

As the Britons I used headhurlers to destroy the roman front and then charged most of the rest of the army using a few units to prevent flanking.

(No numerical difference prettymuch but again a too strong unit paved the way)

I dont play as gauls so I dont know about them

[dacdac]

Personal Best. RTW with BI expansion. Playing as the Goths and had the 9 stacks of Huns all invade me at once. Got the best spearmen and archers i had, and cut them off at a bridge to the north. I clogged up the bridge with spears, and their all calvary army ran straight into them. Not so much a display of my ingenuity but the AI stupidity.
Final Count
Goths:200 spearmen dead, most from enemy horse archer fire.
100 archers dead from enemy HA's as well.
Huns:1600 heavy calvary dead.
1000 HA dead when they charged after running out of ammo.

HEROIC VICTORY!!

[Severous]

https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1374/frank46flandfhdiesametufk7.th.jpg (https://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frank46flandfhdiesametufk7.jpg)

Held the city.

Lost a 1/3rd of my force. The red Romans lost 2/3rds of theirs.

Killed the remainder a turn later.

(Barbarian Invasion on vh/vh)

[GeneralHankerchief]

This was fun:

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/rtw001.jpg

I defended a city in Thrace from an all-out Brutii assault. They attacked me from all sides, with zillions of siege equipment (walls were regular stone).

After this plus another repulse (much easier) a turn later, Brutii power was finally broken in Thrace after about 30 years of fighting.

[antisocialmunky]

Anyone manage anything worse than 1:16 in a field battle?

[General-Winter]

I got 1:17 on this one, just finished it. Carthago Nova Just revolted and kicked out the governor, one Publius Julius, and his garrison force. HUGE Rebel army attacked... I took a hilltop position and used the general's unit as the tip of my sword. First he was here, then there, no, wait, another place! The army quickly buckled and turned into a general rout. Forgot to Scrnshot the beginning statistics, but I got what happened afterwards. http://file:///C:/Program%20Files/The%20Creative%20Assembly/Rome%20-%20Total%20War/tgas/0031.tga
file:///C:/Program%20Files/The%20Creative%20Assembly/Rome%20-%20Total%20War/tgas/0032.tga
file:///C:/Program%20Files/The%20Creative%20Assembly/Rome%20-%20Total%20War/tgas/0033.tga
http://file:///C:/Program%20Files/The%20Creative%20Assembly/Rome%20-%20Total%20War/tgas/0034.tga
And for good measure he cruelly massacred the populace a week after his great victory.
file:///C:/Program%20Files/The%20Creative%20Assembly/Rome%20-%20Total%20War/tgas/0035.tga
What was it that Julius Caeser said? "Conquest gives the right of the victor to bestow any terms they wish upon the oppressed."

[General-Winter]

AAGH!!!! How can I post pics from my hard drive?

[professorspatula]

You have to upload them to a website. eg: imageshack.us and then paste the codes from the site here.

[General-Winter]

Thank you, professor.

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/27/t_0031i_773am_62b4ea5.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img02&img=/7/1/27/f_0031i_773am_62b4ea5.jpg)

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/27/t_0032i_773am_0bf5310.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img02&img=/7/1/27/f_0032i_773am_0bf5310.jpg)

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/1/27/t_0033i_773am_aa58888.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img01&img=/7/1/27/f_0033i_773am_aa58888.jpg)

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/1/27/t_0035i_773am_627e191.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img01&img=/7/1/27/f_0035i_773am_627e191.jpg)

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/27/t_0036i_773am_84ef14a.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img02&img=/7/1/27/f_0036i_773am_84ef14a.jpg)

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

Did this battle just now. The odds were 1:1, but I'm just proud that I killed every last one of them and managed to barely lose any men.

https://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l23/SSJVegetaTrunks/KilledFlaviusScipio.jpg