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Theedave
01-07-2007, 16:11
The Squalor is causing some of my cities to have a negative income. Any other tips on making my cities have a positive income would be helpful.

Thanks
Dave

MSB
01-07-2007, 20:47
Hello and welcome to the Org Theedave ~:wave:

Squalor appears to have no effect on city income in vanilla R:TW. Do you mean something else or are you playing M2:TW?

sapi
01-08-2007, 13:11
Build buildings with a bonus to law and health to reduce and counteract squalor.

Andres
01-08-2007, 15:13
On the other hand, squalor can be your best friend, especially in very crowdy cities which tend to become more and more difficult to keep under control.

If the squalor is high, it can lead to the plague which will reduce your population significantly. Once the plague is over, it will be much easier to control the city again. If you have a spy in the infested city, you can move him to a) the enemy cities or b) your other over-crowded and therefore difficult to control cities to cause the plague in those settlements

:devil:

Just make sure you keep your valuable named characters (good generals) away from the plague.

El Diablo
01-10-2007, 02:10
Welcome Theedave.
The negative income shown on the towns with high squalor is misleading and is detailed in many other threads in the org.

But as a quick clearup for you....
1. NO town EVER makes a negative income (i.e. owning a town will never cost you money). A town makes money end of story.

2. However you spend money every turn on troop and generals upkeep as well as "losing" money to corruption and whatnot.

3. So the number that you are given as the "towns income" is how much it is making (with all minuses added) comparative to its size (population). Thus a high population city with few money making buildings (markets, ports, etc) will make little money. The settlement is also attributed the cost for a percentage of ALL the factions troops - regardless of the troops location. This percentage of troop cost is the same as the percentage of the factions population in that settlement.

Thus a large city in a small faction will have to pay a higher percentage of the troop maintenace costs. If this cost exceeds the money "made by the city it will show as a negative income.
If you lose the large city you will lose its income (however minor) and your situation will worsen

I hope that this helps...

Ohh and......
As a counter to squalor it is good to build public health bui;ldings like sewers etc. (as has been stated above) but it is important to note that some of these require markets, forums etc to be built before you can build them (that would be why they may not been in the allowable build queue.

Sensei Warrior
01-10-2007, 06:49
I am afraid I can't help you out with your question, but welcome to the the hive, I mean org.

Kralizec
01-10-2007, 15:04
Large cities in RTW can be a pain in the butt because of the high squalor wich cause massive public order penalties.

To avoid it I suggest you don't build farming upgrades except in towns with very low population growth.

Theedave
01-12-2007, 03:53
Hello and welcome to the Org Theedave ~:wave:

Squalor appears to have no effect on city income in vanilla R:TW. Do you mean something else or are you playing M2:TW?


Yes I meant the actual Squalor ( Rat icons ) that appear in the settlement details window of each city. I have Rome Total war ( the first version ).

Theedave
01-12-2007, 03:56
Yes it helped. Thanks for explaining.