Expansion Thoughts?

[antisocialmunky]

So what do you think the Expansion for M2:TW is? I know its a little early, but lets face it - CA always makes a expansion entitled 'Something Invasion,' so what "_______ Invasion' will it be this time?

I vote European Invasion. That would be an interesting twist and seems logical with the M2:TW engine.

[Rilder]

Indian invasion? you know with like native americans and stuff and various wars over "The new world"

[seneschal.the]

Yes, CA always make expansions...

...however they should fix the game before expanding it.


However, I hope the inevitable expansion will be regarding the new world, conflict with the native tribes and trying to push the other european powers out of there.

[Snite]

Something in the Americas definitely. Especially with the inclusion of the New World in M2:TW. We'll probably get to play as the Incas or Mayans or Aztecs or the Carribs and the European factions might be the Spanish or Portueguese(which would require some liberty with history I admit) or Dutch.

Or maybe it'll be a game about Pirates in teh 17th century Carribbean. Everyone loves pirates.


Peace, One Love,
Snite

[Derfasciti]

Yarrr pirates!:smash:

I'm actually hoping for something still in Europe. Don't like the idea of going to the Americas for some reason.


Hooray for 300 posts!

[Shottie]

I think it would be strange going into the Americas because there weren't very many battles like the ones you find in previous TW games.

[Laconic]

Something with rendered naval combat. During the late portion of this game naval combat was beginning to come into its own, with the advent of the cannon and ships big enough to carry them. It would open up a possible avenue to expand on the American portion of the map, as the Carribean was one big battleground for the major European colonial powers. You could also open up the middle and eastern Mediterranean, with the islands and major coastal cities in Italy, Greece, and the Holy Lands. Perhaps have navy-specific infantry that are responsible for boarding and port assaults, like marines?

[Sonny WiFiHr]

Far East would be nice

[noodles]

M2TW - The Europeean Invasion (a.i. Europeeans in to teh new world)

Runner up M2TW - The Ottoman Invasion

[Derfasciti]

Yes, perhaps an exploration further east would be nice. I dunno about the naval fights though. I think I like it just the way they are.

[pevergreen]

Medieval 2: Total War: Mars Invasion!

Imagine the possibilites.

"Knights! CHAAAAAARGE!!!!"

Martian "Goasdfaskhjgalshgljkas" *shoots everyone with repeating blaster*

[fabiano]

Hi,

I would like: Total War: Invasion of bug Fixes. A expasion to correct al, bugs in MTW2, and make it a really great game. :)

Crusades, a Expasion about the crusades.

Fabiano

[antisocialmunky]

A Crusades Expansion would be fun ONLY if they did it more historically accurate. Beating heathens to death is only fun and politically correct for so long. It sounds more like a Alexander-type mod though.

I'd like to see a Middle Kingdom: Total War game as the next one in the series, Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Mongols, Koreans... etc.

[BigTex]

Gah definately a colonial new world. They've done viking, they have the crusades in there. The 30 years war is just well, 30 years of near genocide. The new World is rarely done by anyone, and it would be a very interesting sight on the M2TW platform. Colonizing the America's was near 300 years of constant warfare, nothing screams total war like that. The numbers of men in each battle with the exception of the Aztec battle's and the US revolution could actually be accurately represented. Nothing like some good o`l campaign as the souix to conquer the world.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Medieval 2: Total War: Mars Invasion!

Imagine the possibilites.

"Knights! CHAAAAAARGE!!!!"

Martian "Goasdfaskhjgalshgljkas" *shoots everyone with repeating blaster*
That's not historical.


But it's coming. :eyebrows:

[antisocialmunky]

The new World is rarely done by anyone, and it would be a very interesting sight on the M2TW platform.

AOEIII

[BigTex]

AOEIII

AOEIII is purely a RTS, and one of the few games that does the era reasonably well. Total war combines those two aspects, and gives realistic armies. AOEIII is nice, but it's not total war, RTS are high paced. Nothing like the slow turn based Total war has.

[PseRamesses]

I do hope a colonization of the new world won´t be released. It simply lacks the "total war-feeling". My personal favourites would be:

622-750ad: The rise of islam
1800-1500bc: Bronze age empires
250bc-220ad: China

Another cool thing would be to make an expansion around the mongol conquests, 1206-1277ad. with atleast 4 seasons per turn. Gengis Khan brought alot of innovations to the battlefields with new strategies and equipment. I doubt however that CA have the depth to handle and script this correct since they seem to mess up simple things like cav charges, sieges etc.

[Snite]

:idea2: OOH! OOH! Maybe they could do an expansion about the Mongolians when they try to invade Japan!!!\

Peace, One Love,
Snite

[Specky the Mad]

it would be very memorable to lead the Mongols from their little tribes to the massive war machine they were including their invasions in to China and Europe.

It could be implemented like how the Americas open up but only with a much larger land area. But it would be nice to see if you started out as the Mongols Europe opens up to you, and if you start out as one of the original factions the rest of Asia opens just before the Mongols pop up.

But thats just my two cents.......

[Daveybaby]

I would love to see full-on naval combat, but since that would involve substantial additions to the game engine i doubt we will see it until the next 'full' total war game.

Apart from that I'm having real trouble thinking what would work as an expansion. :huh2:

[zulukiller]

An expanded map eastwards would be cool under the name mongal invasion.

[FrauGloer]

I'd like to see "Crusader Invasion" with a detailed map of the Holy Land, with the different crusader states and the different muslim factions. I'd also like to see special city layouts for key cities/castles, e.g. Jerusalem including the Tower of David, the Dome of the Rock and the Wall, or the Crac des Chevaliers.

I don't like the idea of the expansion being about american colonization, as that really isn't part of medieval times any more, and after all, the game is called Medieval 2. I want knights, I want archers, I want huge armies with flying banners charging each other on an open field! I don't want some half-naked indians ambushing small troops of spanish musketeers in a jungle - that's not Medieval2 Total War!

[Snite]

FrauGloer makes some excellent points

And as to full on naval battles, that was something I felt should have been in M2:TW. I understand fully that it would require some huge additions to the engine and such and that it wasn't practical in the time-table allowed, but so many fans want this that CA needs to include it in the next 'full' TW game.


Peace, One Love,
Snite

[Little Legioner]

Age of Renaisance or Thirty years war would be a nice choice with the new factions such as Sweden, Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth (not Poland), Crimean Tartars and maybe Dutch also? New religions Protestants and other sub Protestant religions. For old Christian factions they should be change their religion to Catholiciszm to Protestant. WAR between Catholic and Protestant states!

[RTKBarrett]

If they have any sense they will firstly fix whats wrong with with medieval 2, *and then hopefully pay a bit more attention to multiplayer side* :beam:

[noodles]

hmm actually mongol invasion makes the most sense so far and has the word invasion in it ...

[Beefeater]

Arab Invasion or 30 years' war (Protestant Invasion?) would both get my vote. Then again, maybe it's time to break with the 'invasion' thing.

[PaulTa]

I'd very much like to see a more focused unit roster for the factions, rather than a little side campaign that hardly anyone will play.

I'd love to see more focus on gunpowder development, even faction specific developments. Gunpowder is a huge selling point too. :2thumbsup:

[Templar Knight]

Well it will have to be set in the middle ages since its Medieval 2 Total War, and I believe CA said something about their dislike of the gunpowder era?. So It could be a remake of Viking Invasion or an expansion set in the New World with players controlling the Aztecs and Incas with the Europeans arriving later on, like the current M2TW campaign but around the other way.

Perhaps we will see two expansion like Rome Total War with BI and Alexander.

[Quillan]

I'd love it if the expansion covered the same area as the current game, somewhere between the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 and about the Norman Conquest. That's an even bigger window than the current game, but I'd find someplace in that period quite interesting. Given the same map area, you can have the various societies in the British Isles, the heyday of the Byzantine Empire, and the rise of Islam.

[PaulTa]

Well it will have to be set in the middle ages since its Medieval 2 Total War, and I believe CA said something about their dislike of the gunpowder era?. So It could be a remake of Viking Invasion or an expansion set in the New World with players controlling the Aztecs and Incas with the Europeans arriving later on, like the current M2TW campaign but around the other way.

Perhaps we will see two expansion like Rome Total War with BI and Alexander.

And with one swift yet inadvertant comment, Templar knight dashes PaulTa's hopes for Napoleonic Era warfare against the rocks of time. :shame:

[Shottie]

How about "Imperalism Invasion"? (working title) you progress a few hundred years and start the battle for Africa. Capturing tribes, using resources then battling over land in Africa and also in Europe. Should lead up to the late 17-1800s. This would need better naval battles (Trafalgar, Spanish Armada etc) so it might need a "full" game.

[pike master]

i was kinda skeptical at first but an expansion during the dark ages during the days of arthur historically arthur maybe call it saxon invasion.

i think america total war expansion maybe somehow intertwined with the napoeonic era it would be possible since you already have mobile cannons and musketeers which could be worked into bayonet muskets.

what about a terminator invasion or a giant ant invasion. i can just see it, ants with magnetic accelerator rifles riding in a box mounted on top of a giant rhinoceros beetle. those horns moving up and down sending foot knights into earth orbit.

[Barny Bangs]

Invasion? How about "Spanish Invasion"? It would basically be the Reconquista with an extra-large map of Spain and North Africa, the caliphats and so on. Not so many factions, admitted, but I think it would be fun.

[Varangian Berserker]

On an earlier thread, I had suggested a Charlemagne Era Expansion Set, covering Charles The Greats Conquests of Germany and Central Europe

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

I think there's little doubt it'll be a New World expansion. There's a ton of potential there for a Total War game, and I get the sense that CA didn't quite do everything they wanted to do with the New World in M2.

[antisocialmunky]

... giant ant invasion...

@AllYouCommandAndConquerNerds:

It came... from Red Alert!!!
:yes:

[Snoil The Mighty]

I'd love it if the expansion covered the same area as the current game, somewhere between the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 and about the Norman Conquest. That's an even bigger window than the current game, but I'd find someplace in that period quite interesting. Given the same map area, you can have the various societies in the British Isles, the heyday of the Byzantine Empire, and the rise of Islam.

+1.Exactly the era and scope I'd like to see.

Charlemagne, the Great Schism and evolution of the Bishop of Rome guy. The islamic middle east arising. Viking bloodbaths. Huns.

Maybe start the Byzantines out with some dude named Justinian in charge and a 10-star a$$-kicker named Belisarius! :2thumbsup:

Stuff like that.

[Yue Fei]

The most fittingand sensible expansion would be opening up the Asia map during this era.

The Mongols were busy conquring the small tribes around them with Genghis Knan before movning on to take on the Asia and Europe and establish the largest emipre till to date. A ROME Total War: Alexander kind of mission maybe?

Then we have the silk road linking East and West at its zenth. Possible developments to the current trade system?

Plus the different Factions and unique units with the Far East made playable like Song Dynasty(South China), Jurchens(North China), Xi Xia(West China), Tunguts(Tibet), Japan, Korea, Mongols, Khwarazmian (Afghan), India...and the other factions along the silk road.

This should be fun..bring on the xpansion....Medieval: TOTAL WORLD WAR !!!

[Skott]

I like the 500AD - 1050AD idea. Thats five hundred years worth of fighting right there. Attila and his Huns, The Vikings, Rise of Islam, Charlemagne, all kinds of good stuff. I'm also waiting for someone to make a really good Hundred Years War mod. :yes:

[IrishArmenian]

I want to stay in Europe/Middle East/North Africa because there are so many fueds, so much intruige, betrayl, noble leaders and treacherous kings. Maybe a Dark Ages Expansion? Going from the end of BI to M2TW and the ability to keep going from the expansion to the vanilla game. That would be great!

[Ar7]

I really loved what they did in MTW:VI and would like to see another smaller, a lot more detailed campaign, interesting possibilities would be.

Reconquista - with many factions and provinces, like in Crusader Kings, if anybody has played it.

Ottoman expansion - were you start with the initial invasions and then will have to expand on Anatolia, Balkans, Middle east etc.

Arab expansion - would be a GREAT scenario

Mongol invasion, while actually being the mongols also sounds interesting.

Basically I would like to see more detail, I hate being able to conquer Spain in a couple of turns. And I would really hate it if the went further in history as I see no way CA would be able to pull it off perfectly. It would probably ruin the game balance (in whatever form it exists now) and introduce little content or gameplay value at the expense of many bugs.

[JR-]

use the expansion to expand the game eastwards, as should have been done in the first place. :)