Australia

[pevergreen]

Is anybody besudes me and Darkarbiter from Australia here?

I mean, Australia is teh 1337. Best Cricket Team, best rugby team, best soccer team (bloody Italy, we woulda won if you werent pansies) best everything!

Biggest Pies, Biggest Rock!

Only thing we dont have is a decent PM :laugh4:


Fourth Question, John Howard recently stayed in which Pres..


George Bush


Thanks Chasers!

[Sjakihata]

Best soccer team? You must be kiddin'. I thought Pakistan could beat your cricket team, as well.

Oh, and the biggest rock is on the border of Nepal/Tibet

[naut]

Me.

Best Football Team - It is now officially football here!!! The world cup incident, seriously we should get over that.

EDIT: We do have beautiful women here though.
EDIT2: We have a higher standard of living than the UK IIRC.

[Mikeus Caesar]

November 30th is judgement day for me - for it is on that day i move to the land down under.

[kataphraktoi]

Ive been in Australia since 1988, things are expensive here. Its amazing the lack of common sense and judgement that exists here.

Lets look at some things here:

- Labour is very expensive, why? Because a lot of people are fiscally irresponsible in Australia, they acquire items that are beyond their means, when that happens, they pass the costs to the custoomers. Yes, I'm talking about brickies, tilers, sparkies, and other trades not normally associated with high-income brackets

- We won't let in foreign labour to relieve our labour shortage. A lot of overpaid and shoddy tradesmen want to keep this going so they can squeeze every last penny thy are not entitled too.

- My city, Perth, has the highest median average cost of a house in the nation, that is ridiculous considering it beating Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne which are 4 times as huge!!

- The economy is booming because of raw materials exports, that is only half the story, the economy is also proppoed by consumer consumption fueled by debt....ironic pun....debt-fueled economy. :smash:

- Dollar/Value is quite poor compared to America and Canada. Its because of labour expenses...expensive, thats why we get British tradesmen coming here, they're like Kings here!! I know, I've met em.

- Lack of direction, the government seems to be coasting along rather than develop a long term vision like Singapore, China, Malaysia and other up and coming countries.

- Innovation poorness, most of the best ideas from Auztralia go overseas because well, the environment for innovation is kinda stifled here. Best go overseas to develop ur great ideas.

- 1 million Australian are overseas expats, thats 1/20th of the population, a lot of them are professionals, experts and smart too. Thats a huge blow to the economy.

- Listed quite well on the corruption index :juggle2: Plenty of my dad's workmates say that Asia is corrupted and Australia is not...the difference is that Asians know it and use it, here they live in lala-land.

- Germaine Greer....one of her sayings "old women have the right to be stimulated by young men" (paraphrased).......sick grumpy old sack.

With that said it has some positives:

- Friendly people, yes they are friendly. I want to bash with copper pipes sometimes but yes, very nice ppl.

- Australian rules football

- Australian rules football...love it

- um, we can buy guitars here...got to be a big thumbs up :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

- actually one of the cleanest developed countries in the world

- CHildren overboard, so funny!!

Growing up here for 19yrs, I've realised I've got to get out of this country!!!

As soon as I get some professional experience in my field, I'm outta here.

[MSB]

There are plenty of Aussies that are regular visit here pevergreen, and some of them have quite a personality. All you have to do is go hunting (http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&lr=&cof=S%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.totalwar.org%3B&domains=forums.totalwar.org%3Btotalwar.org&q=Location%3A+Australia&btnG=Search&sitesearch=forums.totalwar.org) for all of them.

[CountArach]

I'm Australian.

Hehe, Chaser's War owns...

[Hepcat]

I mean, Australia is teh 1337. Best Cricket Team, best rugby team, best soccer team (bloody Italy, we woulda won if you werent pansies) best everything!

:smash:
Eh, I don't think best rugby team, I don't like rugby but I know the All Blacks are better than the Aussie team.

I do like the theme parks at the Gold Coast though.

[naut]

I can't stand the A League.

[pevergreen]

Yeah but you look how we played in the world cup.

Brazil was hard pressed to get passed our defence, and when they did that E guy took it the entire field about 35 times every half!

We could (not should, could) have won against Italy, and Italy had it pretty easy from there on.

I'll make it clear, im not Biased to australia in any sport except cricket, which i dont like. I cheer for Brazil soccer, Scotland Rugby. Mainly because the alternatives have New South Welshman!

Runs around in circles saying "We won Origin! We won Origin!"

(i dont cheer for the broncos either, Penny Panthers!

Well even if we dont have the biggest pies of biggest rock, we have the best tourism slogan

"So where the bloody hell are you?"

Or in the Queens case "Why the bloody hell are you here?" (Chasers)

[Dave1984]

"So where the bloody hell are you?"



Winner of the UK's most pathetic reason to ban an advert this century award.

[Yun Dog]

Ive been in Australia since 1988, things are expensive here. Its amazing the lack of common sense and judgement that exists here.

Lets look at some things here:

- Labour is very expensive, why? Because a lot of people are fiscally irresponsible in Australia, they acquire items that are beyond their means, when that happens, they pass the costs to the custoomers. Yes, I'm talking about brickies, tilers, sparkies, and other trades not normally associated with high-income brackets

- We won't let in foreign labour to relieve our labour shortage. A lot of overpaid and shoddy tradesmen want to keep this going so they can squeeze every last penny thy are not entitled too.

- My city, Perth, has the highest median average cost of a house in the nation, that is ridiculous considering it beating Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne which are 4 times as huge!!

- The economy is booming because of raw materials exports, that is only half the story, the economy is also proppoed by consumer consumption fueled by debt....ironic pun....debt-fueled economy. :smash:

- Dollar/Value is quite poor compared to America and Canada. Its because of labour expenses...expensive, thats why we get British tradesmen coming here, they're like Kings here!! I know, I've met em.

- Lack of direction, the government seems to be coasting along rather than develop a long term vision like Singapore, China, Malaysia and other up and coming countries.

- Innovation poorness, most of the best ideas from Auztralia go overseas because well, the environment for innovation is kinda stifled here. Best go overseas to develop ur great ideas.

- 1 million Australian are overseas expats, thats 1/20th of the population, a lot of them are professionals, experts and smart too. Thats a huge blow to the economy.

- Listed quite well on the corruption index :juggle2: Plenty of my dad's workmates say that Asia is corrupted and Australia is not...the difference is that Asians know it and use it, here they live in lala-land.

- Germaine Greer....one of her sayings "old women have the right to be stimulated by young men" (paraphrased).......sick grumpy old sack.

With that said it has some positives:

- Friendly people, yes they are friendly. I want to bash with copper pipes sometimes but yes, very nice ppl.

- Australian rules football

- Australian rules football...love it

- um, we can buy guitars here...got to be a big thumbs up :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

- actually one of the cleanest developed countries in the world

- CHildren overboard, so funny!!

Growing up here for 19yrs, I've realised I've got to get out of this country!!!

As soon as I get some professional experience in my field, I'm outta here.


Geez and I thought I had a downer on the place

Like any place Australia has more than its share of ignorant Yobos - the problem is this is encouraged by the government as being part of our national identity - that and sport being our national religion - which only becomes a problem when it is to the detriment of other worthy pursuits like knowledge, innovation/invention and the arts. Basically this country has been way to proud of being a nation of sports addicted, overweight , ignoramuses. That being said - theres lots of space, good climate, clean environment, few fanatical political/religious freaks, and if you can manage to ignore the 98% of people who are so stupid its a miracle they can breathe and talk at the same time - not a bad place to live.


Of coarse when you compare it to the wonderful social freedom [sacasm], and classed hierarchical society of Malaysia (hello Mahatia?) and Singapore (beaten for chewing gum) erm well I think most of your critisism are BS. Yes perths expensive - I wonder why that might be - could it be demand from all the Asian people wanting to live somewhere better??

Its amusing that we have how many? Malaysian and Singaporian students sent here to be educated - I wonder why ?

(Un-Frontroomish comments - Beirut)

[Beirut]

Gentlemen,

This is not The Backroom - this is The Frontroom.

Be nice or be elsewhere.

[naut]

I know people get touchy when their nations come under the spotlight. So before this goes any further lets:

A) Keep it civil
B) Maybe move this to the Backroom

EDIT: Lol, I typed this the same time as Beirut. :laugh4:

[Yun Dog]

I agree this is the frontroom - but if you going to allow unsubstantiated BS and blatant country bashing like....



- Lack of direction, the government seems to be coasting along rather than develop a long term vision like Singapore, China, Malaysia and other up and coming countries.

and


- Innovation poorness, most of the best ideas from Auztralia go overseas because well, the environment for innovation is kinda stifled here. Best go overseas to develop ur great ideas.

and


- Listed quite well on the corruption index :juggle2: Plenty of my dad's workmates say that Asia is corrupted and Australia is not...the difference is that Asians know it and use it, here they live in lala-land.

If your going to start editing threads - then how about this one first




Growing up here for 19yrs, I've realised I've got to get out of this country!!!

As soon as I get some professional experience in my field, I'm outta here.

Its nice to see someone who appreciates the country that provided them a first class tertiary education, and feels indebted and grateful.

Now you've had a wonderful time getting an education here, please feel free to slag the place at every opportunity and use this first class education to benefit the country where said education cant exist due to lack of social freedom - and please dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out and thankyoucomeagain

MODS - how about a FAIR GO and equatable moderation

[naut]

Yunus Dogus, whoa. I understand where you coming from. However, I fail to see how how those above things are bashing. They are more critical analysis. Beirut is one of the most even handed mods at the .Org so please reply in a civil manner and he will listen to you.


- Lack of direction, the government seems to be coasting along rather than develop a long term vision like Singapore, China, Malaysia and other up and coming countries.
It is a painful half-truth, the government ain't that bright sometimes. :shrug:


- Listed quite well on the corruption index :juggle2: Plenty of my dad's workmates say that Asia is corrupted and Australia is not...the difference is that Asians know it and use it, here they live in lala-land.
A statement that is left open to flaming yes, but you can't deny the fact that Bob Carr was and most of the Queensland government is corrupt. However, on a Federal scale, no not corrupt for a developed country.


Growing up here for 19yrs, I've realised I've got to get out of this country!!!

As soon as I get some professional experience in my field, I'm outta here.
Don't feel offended Yunus Dogus, it is their prerogative to go where they will.


Now you've had a wonderful time getting an education here, please feel free to slag the place at every opportunity and use this first class education to benefit the country where said education cant exist due to lack of social freedom - and please dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out and thankyoucomeagain
How can a fair go be given if you reply like that?

[Yun Dog]

Yunus Dogus, whoa. I understand where you coming from. However, I fail to see how how those above things are bashing. They are more critical analysis. Beirut is one of the most even handed mods at the .Org so please reply in a civil manner and he will listen to you.

Critical analysis!!!! your joking right

I didnt see a single fact quoted, a single link, it is blatant over-generalised, unsubstantiated, lies.



It is a painful half-truth, the government ain't that bright sometimes. :shrug:

please clarify a half truth for me - a half lie

and Malaysia, Singapore, China - more vision for the future than Australia

Sorry - No

I would suggest the poster spend 19yrs in any of the countries they mention




A statement that is left open to flaming yes, but you can't deny the fact that Bob Carr was and most of the Queensland government is corrupt. However, on a Federal scale, no not corrupt for a developed country.
But it wasnt at Queensland was it, and in fact the poster is from Perth - so more fabricated BS, again wheres the FACTS please



Don't feel offended Yunus Dogus, it is their prerogative to go where they will.


How can a fair go be given if you reply like that?
Sorry Rythmic but I am offended, between this and the 'Australia Sucks' thread Im really getting annoyed

why do I have to come into these threads and stand up for my country

is the rule - no country bashing or inflamatory titles - except if its Australia - in which case go for it

this is the frontroom the posters post was out of order, in the spirit of this room but also the thread and besides which, could be descibed as blatantly wrong if not naive at best - and had this been in the backroom and they had made the same comments regarding the USA or UK they wouldve rightly been flamed into cynder. I mean look at it as a whole - "yeh Ive lived here for 19yrs - this place is ******* full of corrupt, uninnovative, losers (if youve got a brain, dont go there) - Im outa here as soon as Ive milked the last drop."

mm nice

you may feel those comments are a fair reflection of this country - I disagree

and if their comments are allowed to stand - then so should the flame they recieve as a reply

(No partial swearwords, only the stars please - Beirut)

[naut]

this is the frontroom the posters post was out of order
Yes entirely.

Now:


Singapore
Singapore has the highest standard of living in Asia and 11th in the world. (http://www.economist.com/theworldin/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3372495&d=2005). On the same scale Australia is 6th, but debt and overpriced goods and services are not good for us.
In the United Nations Human Development Index, Singapore is 25th, behind Japan, Hong Kong, and Israel on the Asian continent.
Measured by GDP per capita, Singapore is the 22nd wealthiest country in the world.
It has foreign reserve of S$197b (US$119b)


China
The People's Republic of China is the world's fourth largest economy, the second largest at purchasing power parity, the third largest exporter and importer.
Soon it will be the only elected communist state.

You don't get to that stage without having planned, etc.


But it wasnt at Queensland was it, and in fact the poster is from Perth - so more fabricated BS, again wheres the FACTS please
I agree.

[Yun Dog]

When your a dictatorship its very easy to have more vision/plan than those messy democracies who have to pass laws via the senate and the house of reps and those silly people are always getting in the way of the plan with their silly elections - Mugabe has a vision for Zimbabwe too.

Again - I say live there for 20 years and then let me know how c%@& Australia is

Hey prove me wrong - I willing to admit I may be

although speaking with my mate (an expat living in Sing) last night - I got the feeling he wanted to come here - he must be crazzy :laugh4:

[pevergreen]

Just so its clear, the purpose of this thread was to joke a little bit of australian humour, and find out (apart from who has it in their location[never seen half of you before!]) who lives in australia.

If you want to argue about Australia further, please, mods, move this to the backroom.

Yes Queensland is a bit corrupt, the federal government is better, but we dont have a great choice here. The Queensland Liberal Party can not do anything, theyve spent nearly 10 yrs(unsure) trying to get the coaltion working. So we are forced to vote for ALP.

Likewise in Federal. ALP for Federal cannot do anything right, so we are forced to vote Howard back.

To quote (yet again) The Chasers

And we also thank John Howard, in this week of his tenth year in power, for keeping this man out of officeFull screen picture of Peter Costello

I am a Queenslander, I however, do see that change is needed, but growing up in QLD, I have also the slight fear of change, or for lack of better words no reason to embrace it. I understand why other states think queenslanders are rednecks, the fact is, most of us are.

Toowoomba recyling water poll. Yes or No. Better to have named it

(yes)Drink water thats perfectly safe, but new in the world (machinery made etc) and you have an inbuilt distrust of, or
(no) Continue drinking pure water and die.

That is the fact, Australia will get less rain, and unless we recyle water, and desalination plants are put up (more than one on the gold coast) we will not be able to support ourselves. And then we might have to move to NT.

No one wants to do that :laugh4:

[naut]

And then we might have to move to NT.

No one wants to do that :laugh4:
Or worse ... Tasmania. :shudders:

[pevergreen]

The Chasers have confirmed it, the people in tasmania are normal.

The bakery was especially good, wasnt it!

Yeah, the 3-eyed cook was really good

:laugh4:

Why do i only quote Chasers in this thread?

[Beirut]

If you want to argue about Australia further, please, mods, move this to the backroom.


No.

If a thread is begun in a way that suits the forum it is in, then the members have the responsibility to keep it civil and on topic. If it gets out of hand, it gets closed. The Backroom is not the garbage dump for threads that turn bad in the Frontroom.


MODS - how about a FAIR GO and equatable moderation.

We tried it once, it didn't work.

[naut]

We tried it once, it didn't work.
:laugh4:

[pevergreen]

:eeeek:

Im out of this thread.

That No scared me

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well those Ozzies DO rule every single sport with an iron first.

Even ice skating... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQMJtilOGg) :beam:


(do watch it all the way until the end...)

[Caius]

EDIT: We do have some beautiful women here though
you didnt come to Argentina, here we have lots of beatiful woman

Best Football Team - It is now officially football here!!! But no our team ain't the best
What happened to Australia in the last world championship?

[coalition]

AFL.

Best sport.

[Viking]

I herd Australia haz liek...dangerous animals.

https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5428/dangerousanimal090608mn.jpg

[Subotan]

I once fought off a drop bear. He ripped my arm off, but I gouged out it's eyes.

[miotas]

The locals only like being dangerous when there is an unsuspecting tourist around to scare, they are too lazy to do anything except eat, sleep and drink the rest of the time.

[Megas Methuselah]

I can skate circles around you on the hockey rink... backwards. :snobby:

[CountArach]

AFL.

Best sport.
Holy Necro Batman!

But seriously, if anything has to Necro an incredibly old thread, it should be this post... very true.

[miotas]

A New South Welshman who prefers AFL to footy? What's the world coming to?

[aimlesswanderer]

I herd Australia haz liek...dangerous animals.

https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5428/dangerousanimal090608mn.jpg

The last government, eager to deter the hordes of strange unwashed furriners from coming here on leaky boats, actually made videos full of poisonous snakes, spiders, crocs, sharks, and other deadly creatures, and ran it in places like Indonesia, in order to get people to not come here. I thought it was hilarious, as if that would work! Always good to scare people off from coming here, since we don't want strange furriners want tourists with money to spend.

[pevergreen]

We need a new advertising campaign.

Instead of where the bloody hell are you, how about...

Australia's :daisy: hot, so get your :daisy: arse the :daisy: down here.

Or...

:daisy: Australia is :daisy: great, so why the :daisy: arent you here :daisy:

[miotas]

I believe pever is referring to this clip language warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wita8KNtM4I&feature=related
Funny how the pom was the only one who approved.

[pevergreen]

Yeah I didn't want to link it...

[CountArach]

A New South Welshman who prefers AFL to footy? What's the world coming to?
Footy is just shocking. AFL requires so many more skills and I find is a much rougher sport (Though they have softened it a lot in the last 5 years).

I believe pever is referring to this clip language warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wita8KNtM4I&feature=related
Funny how the pom was the only one who approved.
The greatest line - "You can keep one."

[Subotan]

Why is there no "New North Wales"?

[miotas]

Because the British empire never colonised any places resembling Wales to the north of Britain.

[Subotan]

That would only make sense if it was "South New Wales" though. And parts of Canada are more North than Wales.

[miotas]

Bah! The area where Cook landed looked like Wales (apparently, I've never been to Wales) and it was in the southern hemisphere, happy now? And South New Wales would be the southern area of New Wales so :tongue3:

[Galain_Ironhide]

Well it seems nobody was quick enough to say HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY!

Hope all you other Aussies got out there and put a snagger on the barbie and maybe even jumped in the pool to celebrate our big day. I know I did, and I am definately gonna pay for it tomorrow at work. Pulling a sickie anyone? :clown:

(its 9:17pm herein WA so I still made it:laugh4:)

[naut]

Hope everyone had a good Australia day. Didn't stay too sober.


Hope all you other Aussies got out there and put a snagger on the barbie and maybe even jumped in the pool to celebrate our big day. I know I did, and I am definately gonna pay for it tomorrow at work. Pulling a sickie anyone? :clown:
Unfortunately my pool is green. The chemical balance is all out of whack. And well, I really need it, it's been so hot the last week or so.

I had a steak and prawns on the bbq. :2thumbsup:

A friend of mines father got the Order of Australia for Medical service, etc. Which is pretty cool.

[pevergreen]

Had a easy day.

Watched a few movies (including Gladiator, for the first time ever) then had family friends round for dinner.

[Raz]

Happy Self-Titled Day, Australia!

Hope all of you guys had fun.
Twas a grand day in Perth. Cooler than it has been recently so I could enjoy the beach with mates. IIRC, it was some ~40° last week. :sweatdrop:

[CountArach]

Worked for 9 hours, went to a mate's place at around 6:30 and kept drinking until 2am-ish. Good times :2thumbsup:

[miotas]

Hooray for nationalism!

I rather enjoyed my lazy Tuesday off. I think it's quite funny how 500,000 people also chucked a sickie on Monday off for a 4 day weekend. Cost the economy $250 million apparently

[naut]

I think it's quite funny how 500,000 people also chucked a sickie on Monday off for a 4 day weekend. Cost the economy $250 million apparently
:laugh4:

It's like Brazil, when their national team play the whole country stops.

[miotas]

Something I always like watching is Sam Kekovich's address to the nation, this year however it was an address to the World, the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHH0Ebke-lU) for those not living in Australia, because everyone here has already seen it of course ~D

Also, something that was on the radio on Monday, Hamish and Andy sung a tribute to all the Unaustralians. I am Unaustralian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaLMEb5Omc)

[Louis VI the Fat]

Oh dear...


Australia to lose its National Anthem!!!

As it turns out, the anthem was plagiarised. More disturbingly, it is a girlie tune too, meant for campfire whistling by girl scouts.


Australian band Men at Work (http://www.spinner.com/tag/MenAtWork/) have lost a federal court case in Sydney, Australia, after being sued for plagiarism over their 1981 number one US and UK hit single 'Down Under.'

The band now face paying up to 60% of the song's income, after the court ruled the song copied its flute riff from a Girl Guides song called 'Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree.' The campfire song was originally written for the 1935 Girl Guides Jamboree, by the now-deceased Marion Sinclair.

http://www.spinner.com/2010/02/04/men-at-work-lose-down-under-court-case/Well this sheds new light to the meaning of the lyrics of 'Do you come from a land Down under...where the women glow and men plunder'.:smash:

[miotas]

The whole thing is ridiculous because the Kookaburra (http://alldownunder.com/oz-u/songs/kookaburra-song-9.htm) tune is just a faster version of this (http://musicanet.org/robokopp/welsh/aeidirde.mid) welsh song.

[Cyclops]

This nonsense crops up every couple of years. Some ignorant jury hears a scratchy cassette that has 3 notes the same as a number 1 hit and votes to give the profits to some lowlife skimmer.

In 3 months a sensible judge will overturn this insanely ridiculous judgement.

Vote 1 the jury system: for truly surreal decisions on legal matters nothing beats 12 people being harangued by proffesional rhetors for a couple of days and then locked away until the all agree.

As for Australia, Pev and I and our fellow Antipodeans dwell in a beaut country on the best planet at the best time in history so far. That we know of.

[The Stranger]

best football team - no
best cricket team - no
biggest rock - yes
a lot of beautiful women - only if you count the backpackers
biggest pies - maybe but the taste aweful
best rugby players - no
best rugby league - yes

good folk - yes
great language - yes
beautiful nature - yes
awesome surf - yes

8/10

[CountArach]

biggest pies - maybe but the taste aweful
You take that back...

[The Stranger]

no. not even when you force 10 pies down my troat.

[Subotan]

Wigan has the best pies :yes:

[miotas]

Shepherd's have the best pies :beam:

Australia might not be the best country in the world, but there are certainly none better ~D

[naut]

It's a balmy 38C here, and I've got a lunchtime beer. :thumbsup:

[Louis VI the Fat]

Ah, yes. I was going to ask you how Australia compares to the bleak, drab Britain you left behind and whether you think your quality of life has improved any.

I guess that question just became obsolete.

It's a balmy 38C here, and I've got a lunchtime beer. :thumbsup:

[The Stranger]

*whispers* but they have no culture of their own.

runs away.